From atharrison@wavetek.com Tue Sep 1 01:30:03 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from wav.wavetek.com (wav.wavetek.com [204.94.82.12]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA29325 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:30:01 -0700 Received: from sd-mta.wavetek.com (sd-mta.wavetek.com [204.94.82.17]) by wav.wavetek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA04586 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sd-mta.wavetek.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 88256672.00306E21 ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:30:14 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: WAVETEK@MAILGATE From: "Andy T Harrison" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net Message-ID: <80256672.002E929E.00@sd-mta.wavetek.com> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:31:06 +0100 Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] Major Complications in Proposals X-archive-position: 143 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: atharrison@wavetek.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net >I think that I'm still the Active Secretarylet of Friendship (The Kid never >explicitly, that I can find, said otherwise). Also, there were many typos >in proposal 181, so that it said: I'd completely forgotten about that. I'll hand the post on to anyone who wants it. I'd rather it went to someone who hasn't currently got any posts, in the interests of diversification..... Anyone? -- The Kid From tows@earthlink.net Wed Sep 2 19:33:49 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04988 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:33:47 -0700 Received: from [168.191.57.117] (sdn-ar-001mabostP205.dialsprint.net [168.191.57.117]) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28710 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:33:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: tows@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:22:37 -0400 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Towsner Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] Major Complications in Proposals X-archive-position: 144 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: tows@earthlink.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net >Now I interpreted this as a spelling error, and therefore corrected it in >the proposals and the rules. However, I then realized that because I was >still the Active Secretarylet of Friendship, I am the one that can use the >3 official farms. However, this rests on the reasoning that changing 1-1 to I'm inclined to let you do this, since I think it's a silly pain to throw the game into chaos over a typo. We all know what should have happened, and in two weeks it will have happened. -- -Henry Towsner Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and enjoy it. -Logan Pearsall Smith From lambda@world.std.com Wed Sep 2 20:42:58 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA05365 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:42:56 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id XAA06988; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:42:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [198.114.8.180] (door1.lotus.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA02456; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:42:30 -0400 Date: 2 Sep 98 23:47:54 -0400 Subject: [MacroNomic] New Proposals From: "Brian Campbell" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 145 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: lambda@world.std.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net Well, the new proposals are up (all two of them). I've not yet updated the rules page, since I've got 19 proposals to do, and haven't had much time recently (I wouldn't mind too much if someone took over the SoT job). --- Brian Campbell (AKA lambda) Visit my webpage: http://world.std.com/~campbell/Brian/ Visit the Latin Club webpage: http://world.std.com/~lambda/ Visit the MacroNomic webpage: http://world.std.com/~lambda/macronomic/ ---------- Nihil sub sole novum. From jtraub@dragoncat.net Wed Sep 2 20:51:31 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from localhost (jtraub@localhost) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA05425 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:51:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:51:31 -0700 (PDT) From: JT To: macronomic@dragoncat.net Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] New Proposals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 146 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: jtraub@dragoncat.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net On 2 Sep 1998, Brian Campbell wrote: >Well, the new proposals are up (all two of them). I've not yet updated the >rules page, since I've got 19 proposals to do, and haven't had much time >recently (I wouldn't mind too much if someone took over the SoT job). I have also been very very busy recently and thus have not updated the assets page from this past batch of proposals yet (I will do so and do the new proposals etc tonight). Since Henry was willing to allow it to be read as a misspelling, I would be willing to do so as well, though I think this might be dangerous ground to tread. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] From lambda@world.std.com Wed Sep 2 20:52:40 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA05436 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:52:37 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id XAA07914; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [198.114.8.180] (door1.lotus.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA07474; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:52:15 -0400 Date: 2 Sep 98 23:57:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] New Proposals From: "Brian Campbell" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 147 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: lambda@world.std.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net >Well, the new proposals are up (all two of them). I've not yet updated the >rules page, since I've got 19 proposals to do, and haven't had much time >recently (I wouldn't mind too much if someone took over the SoT job). Oops, sorry Henry. I just recieved your proposals, right after I distributed the other ones. They'll go out in the next batch (that is, in the old sense of the word, not the official MacroNomic sense). --- Brian Campbell (AKA lambda) Visit my webpage: http://world.std.com/~campbell/Brian/ Visit the Latin Club webpage: http://world.std.com/~lambda/ Visit the MacroNomic webpage: http://world.std.com/~lambda/macronomic/ ---------- Nihil sub sole novum. From tows@earthlink.net Thu Sep 3 15:24:33 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13552 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:24:31 -0700 Received: from [168.191.54.204] (sdn-ar-002mabostP274.dialsprint.net [168.191.54.204]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11260 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:24:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: tows@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:30:58 -0400 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Towsner Subject: [MacroNomic] Votes X-archive-position: 148 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: tows@earthlink.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net 195:FOR 196:AGAINST. The liaisons already see this stuff-they're subscribed to Internomic. The RP should get to see it too, so they know what's going on. -- -Henry Towsner Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and enjoy it. -Logan Pearsall Smith From dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Fri Sep 4 11:46:38 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net ([209.112.59.66]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19255 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:46:35 -0700 Received: from sounds.u-net.com (p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net [194.119.133.11]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21778 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:47:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980904193659.006870cc@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net> X-Sender: newc_dan@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 19:36:59 +0100 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Aidan McLoughlin Subject: [MacroNomic] votes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 149 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net 195: mine 196: loyal i feel stangely unfullfilled... like there's something missing, something i havent done... Oh well. Dan /================================================================\ | Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. | | But on the other hand, you have different fingers. -- :) | \================================================================/ From jtraub@dragoncat.net Sat Sep 5 01:29:01 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from localhost (jtraub@localhost) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA21878 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:29:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 01:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: JT To: macronomic@dragoncat.net Subject: [MacroNomic] votes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 150 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: jtraub@dragoncat.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net 195: FOR 196: AGAINST, while I don't care enough about Internomic to actually want to follow it, having the RP be informed is a good thing. --JT [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ] [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ] [-------------------------------------------------------------------------] From dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Sun Sep 6 02:31:22 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net ([209.112.59.66]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA03261 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 02:31:19 -0700 Received: from sounds.u-net.com (p57.nas1.is2.u-net.net [194.119.133.57]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA04212 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 05:31:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980906094505.006a9688@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net> X-Sender: newc_dan@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 09:45:05 +0100 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Aidan McLoughlin Subject: [MacroNomic] official flag Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 151 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net has the old idea about an official flag been resolved in my absense or has it just died? Dan ps. i just want to get people talking agen :) /================================================================\ | Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. | | But on the other hand, you have different fingers. -- :) | \================================================================/ From lambda@world.std.com Sun Sep 6 20:08:40 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA08436 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 20:08:38 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id XAA07421; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [198.114.8.180] (door1.lotus.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA27541; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:08:15 -0400 Date: 6 Sep 98 23:13:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] official flag From: "Brian Campbell" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 152 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: lambda@world.std.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net >has the old idea about an official flag been resolved in my absense or has >it just died? > >Dan Pretty much calmed down, but I've got another idea which is based somewhat on my idea and somewhat on yours. It has 3 horizontal stripes, white, red, white, and on the middle of the red stripe my emblem with the gavel and quill pen. The three stripes signify the 3 RP members, with the red stripe representing the SoCC, and the white stripes the other two members. The red also represents the communist idea, while the white represents peace, and the gavel and quill pen are like the hammer and sickle, representing the judging and lawmaking processes. I'll draw up my idea soon, and post it to the webpage. --- Brian Campbell (AKA lambda) Visit my webpage: http://world.std.com/~campbell/Brian/ Visit the Latin Club webpage: http://world.std.com/~lambda/ Visit the MacroNomic webpage: http://world.std.com/~lambda/macronomic/ ---------- Nihil sub sole novum. From dcr24@hermes.cam.ac.uk Sun Sep 6 23:34:13 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA09167 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:34:06 -0700 Received: from dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.141.151]) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zFurt-0004v8-00 for macronomic@dragoncat.net; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 07:33:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 07:37:37 +0100 (BST) From: Duncan Richer To: macronomic@dragoncat.net Subject: [MacroNomic] MN: Votes Message-ID: X-X-Sender: dcr24@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 153 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: dcr24@cam.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net 195: LOYAL 196: LOYAL -- Duncan C. "" Richer aka Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator From atharrison@wavetek.com Mon Sep 7 01:36:12 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from wav.wavetek.com (wav.wavetek.com [204.94.82.12]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA09592 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:36:10 -0700 Received: from sd-mta.wavetek.com (sd-mta.wavetek.com [204.94.82.17]) by wav.wavetek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA21062 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sd-mta.wavetek.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 88256678.0030D1A8 ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 01:36:29 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: WAVETEK@MAILGATE From: "Andy T Harrison" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net Message-ID: <80256678.002EE7A3.00@sd-mta.wavetek.com> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:38:59 +0100 Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] MN: Votes X-archive-position: 154 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: atharrison@wavetek.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net My votes: 195: AGAINST This proposal does not "explicitly and unambiguously describe one or more changes to the gamestate". It could be argued that it is obvious what is intended, but simply being obvious isn't good enough. 196: LOYAL -- The Kid From dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Mon Sep 7 11:34:36 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net ([209.112.59.66]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11257 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:34:32 -0700 Received: from sounds.u-net.com (p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net [194.119.133.11]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15327 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:35:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980907191217.006b3f14@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net> X-Sender: newc_dan@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 19:12:17 +0100 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Aidan McLoughlin Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] official flag In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 155 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net At 23:13 06-09-98 -0400, you wrote: > >Pretty much calmed down, but I've got another idea which is based somewhat >on my idea and somewhat on yours. It has 3 horizontal stripes, white, red, >white, and on the middle of the red stripe my emblem with the gavel and >quill pen. The three stripes signify the 3 RP members, with the red stripe >representing the SoCC, and the white stripes the other two members. The red >also represents the communist idea, while the white represents peace, and >the gavel and quill pen are like the hammer and sickle, representing the >judging and lawmaking processes. I'll draw up my idea soon, and post it to >the webpage. > >--- Brian Campbell (AKA lambda) that sounds quite good, simpler in theory but prettier in reality. if you want i can give it the same flag effect that i used on mine (fluttering in the breeze type thing). /================================================================\ | Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. | | But on the other hand, you have different fingers. -- :) | \================================================================/ From dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Mon Sep 7 11:34:45 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net ([209.112.59.66]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11265 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:34:41 -0700 Received: from sounds.u-net.com (p11.nas1.is2.u-net.net [194.119.133.11]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15344 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:35:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980907191102.006bafcc@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net> X-Sender: newc_dan@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 19:11:02 +0100 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Aidan McLoughlin Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] MN: Votes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 156 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net At 07:37 07-09-98 +0100, you wrote: >195: LOYAL >196: LOYAL > >-- >Duncan C. "" Richer aka >Slakko sorry but you cant vote loyal on mine Slakko (195) /================================================================\ | Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. | | But on the other hand, you have different fingers. -- :) | \================================================================/ From dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Sat Sep 12 03:31:39 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (dot.crosswinds.net [209.112.59.66]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA08636 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 03:31:37 -0700 Received: from sounds.u-net.com (p52.nas1.is2.u-net.net [194.119.133.52]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA22088 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:32:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980912112553.006ae460@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net> X-Sender: newc_dan@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:25:53 +0100 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Aidan McLoughlin Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] MN: Votes In-Reply-To: <80256678.002EE7A3.00@sd-mta.wavetek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 157 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net At 09:38 07-09-98 +0100, you wrote: >My votes: > >195: AGAINST >This proposal does not "explicitly and unambiguously describe one or more >changes to the gamestate". It could be argued that it is obvious what is >intended, but simply being obvious isn't good enough. >196: LOYAL > >-- >The Kid it wasn't obvious to me when i came back from vacation which is why i proposed it. Dan /================================================================\ | Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. | | But on the other hand, you have different fingers. -- :) | \================================================================/ From atharrison@wavetek.com Mon Sep 14 00:43:18 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from wav.wavetek.com (wav.wavetek.com [204.94.82.12]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA18517 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:43:16 -0700 Received: from sd-mta.wavetek.com (sd-mta.wavetek.com [204.94.82.17]) by wav.wavetek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA14124 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sd-mta.wavetek.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 8825667F.002A7136 ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:43:34 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: WAVETEK@MAILGATE From: "Andy T Harrison" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net Message-ID: <8025667F.002AAE65.00@sd-mta.wavetek.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:48:01 +0100 Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] MN: Votes X-archive-position: 158 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: atharrison@wavetek.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net >>195: AGAINST >>This proposal does not "explicitly and unambiguously describe one or more >>changes to the gamestate". It could be argued that it is obvious what is >>intended, but simply being obvious isn't good enough. >it wasn't obvious to me when i came back from vacation which is why i >proposed it. No, what I meant is that it is obvious what the intent of your proposal is, but it does not "explicitly and unambiguously describe one or more changes to the gamestate" as per the rules. i.e. It does not start something like "Change the text of rule X to the following:". -- The Kid From tows@earthlink.net Mon Sep 14 13:03:40 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20919 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:03:38 -0700 Received: from [168.191.57.86] (sdn-ar-001mabostP150.dialsprint.net [168.191.57.86]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27436 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:03:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: tows@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:06:59 -0400 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Towsner Subject: [MacroNomic] A Non-Reminder X-archive-position: 159 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: tows@earthlink.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net There may or may not be a player who has most certainly NOT been away for the maximum 6 weeks. If there were such a player, which there isn't, it shouldn't be mentioned publicly. -- -Henry Towsner Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and enjoy it. -Logan Pearsall Smith From lambda@world.std.com Mon Sep 14 14:00:03 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA21127 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:00:00 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id QAA25096; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [198.114.8.180] (door1.lotus.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA19476; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:59:38 -0400 Date: 14 Sep 98 17:05:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] MN: Votes From: "Brian Campbell" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 160 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: lambda@world.std.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net >No, what I meant is that it is obvious what the intent of your proposal is, >but it does not "explicitly and unambiguously describe one or more changes >to the gamestate" as per the rules. i.e. It does not start something like >"Change the text of rule X to the following:". Er, actually that's my fault. The proposal he sent me does, but it didn't get into the webpage. I was rather hurried, and missed that. --- Brian Campbell (AKA lambda) Visit my webpage: http://world.std.com/~campbell/Brian/ Visit the Latin Club webpage: http://world.std.com/~lambda/ Visit the MacroNomic webpage: http://world.std.com/~lambda/macronomic/ ---------- Nihil sub sole novum. From frank.schmidt@docnet.de Fri Sep 18 23:50:36 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from mail.docnet.de (ns.docnet.de [194.122.214.66]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA10392 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:50:31 -0700 Received: by mail.docnet.de with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.00.17 AS-0098304) for at Sat, 19 Sep 98 08:24:46 +0200 Message-ID: <36034E19.5FD0E7B4@docnet.de> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 08:24:25 +0200 From: Frank Schmidt Organization: GMP Dr. Limbach & Kollegen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "The People's Republic of Macronomic" Subject: [MacroNomic] Returning and leaving Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 161 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: frank.schmidt@docnet.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net I return from vacation. I give my proposal mines and my proposal commodities to Slakko. I also give all my acres to Slakko. I say goodbye to everyone around and wish you all good luck (I might return, but that'll probably take some time) I leave Macronomic. Bye, Frank (Ember) PS I'm not angry or something, I just don't find the time anymore... From dcr24@hermes.cam.ac.uk Mon Sep 21 13:30:01 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22111 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:29:58 -0700 Received: from dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.141.151]) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zLCac-0003rJ-00 for macronomic@dragoncat.net; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:29:42 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:29:50 +0100 (BST) From: Duncan Richer To: macronomic@dragoncat.net Subject: [MacroNomic] Voting Message-ID: X-X-Sender: dcr24@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 162 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: dcr24@cam.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net I sent in a proposal quite a while ago - what has happened to it? -- Duncan C. "" Richer aka Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator From tows@earthlink.net Mon Sep 21 18:05:55 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA23311 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:05:50 -0700 Received: from [168.191.54.143] (sdn-ar-001mabostP253.dialsprint.net [168.191.54.143]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27208 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:05:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: tows@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:12:10 -0400 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Towsner Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] Voting X-archive-position: 163 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: tows@earthlink.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net >I sent in a proposal quite a while ago - what has happened to it? lambda's a little behind. He's alive, just has a lot of homework (so he claims) -- -Henry Towsner Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and enjoy it. -Logan Pearsall Smith From dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Mon Sep 28 10:46:55 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (dot.crosswinds.net [209.112.59.66]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA23785 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:46:46 -0700 Received: from sounds.u-net.com (p18.nas1.is2.u-net.net [194.119.133.18]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12877 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:47:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980928184427.006af798@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net> X-Sender: newc_dan@pop.newcastle.crosswinds.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:44:27 +0100 To: macronomic@dragoncat.net From: Aidan McLoughlin Subject: [MacroNomic] ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 164 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: dan@newcastle.crosswinds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net ...? From lambda@world.std.com Mon Sep 28 15:10:23 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24542 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:10:20 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id SAA23794; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [198.114.8.180] (door1.lotus.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA09718; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:10:00 -0400 Date: 28 Sep 98 18:15:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] ... From: "Brian Campbell" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 165 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: lambda@world.std.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net ! From atharrison@wavetek.com Tue Sep 29 00:46:51 1998 Received: Listar v0.110a - handled for list macronomic (macronomic@dragoncat.net) Received: from wav.wavetek.com (wav.wavetek.com [204.94.82.12]) by dragoncat.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA26255 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:46:49 -0700 Received: from sd-mta.wavetek.com (sd-mta.wavetek.com [204.94.82.17]) by wav.wavetek.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA06665 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sd-mta.wavetek.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 8825668E.002AFCD9 ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:49:32 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: WAVETEK@MAILGATE From: "Andy T Harrison" To: macronomic@dragoncat.net Message-ID: <8025668E.002AAC60.00@sd-mta.wavetek.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:47:03 +0100 Subject: Re: [MacroNomic] Returning and leaving X-archive-position: 166 X-listar-version: Listar v0.110a Sender: macronomic-bounce@dragoncat.net X-original-sender: atharrison@wavetek.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macronomic@dragoncat.net I'm now back from vacation too. I've no idea what the current state of the game is, so I'll vote LOYAL on everything I can, and AGAINST on everything I can't. -- The Kid