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A new proposal has happened. It's by ChinDoGu, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Immutable Tabula Rasa

Proposal that the rule Tabula Rasa (Rule 375) be made immutable

Further that this rule be renumbered to the number 120

This rule takes precedence over rule 108 [Which by my reading would make
it not work, as it would set it to this proposals number after it was
changed]
----end rule----

This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:00 +0000
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A new proposal has happened. It's by ChinDoGu, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Other person in thrall

Another player will be considered controlled by a player if that player
voluntarily places upon their own head the cap of gulibility.  The cap of
mind control exists somewhere in the game board, but its location is not
yet known.

The controlling player will be whichever player is currently wearing the
cap of mind control.  This item also exists at an as yet undefined place
in the game board.

[Suggestions for change welcome just want to liven thigs up a bit here]
----end rule----

This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:00 +0000
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A new proposal has happened. It's by ChinDoGu, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Rejoining the Game

Should a rule allow a player to rejoin the game on the game board, that
player may place his playing piece onto the game board in any of the outer
circle’s squares of his/her choice.

----end rule----

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A new proposal has happened. It's by ChinDoGu, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Ammendment to Fresh Blood (rule 382)

Should 409 : Rejoining the Game Pass, Ammend rule 382 adding the
following.

New Players may the rejoin the game board. [as per rule 409]

Should 409 : Rejoining the Game Fail, Ammend rule 382 adding the
following.

The new player must also decide upon a starting location for their game
piece, which must be i the outer circle of the game board.
----end rule----

This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:00 +0000
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A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Kick start 2004

That the status page be brought up to date and a new judge appointed. 'tis
an action, not a rule.
----end rule----

This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:00 +0000
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Hah, 

take this:
 Xns9471D422CD3EThomasZahrfreenetde@ID-
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as my proof of no longer being a critic according to rule 398/2
 
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Hah, </span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">take this:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span></font><font face="Fixedsys" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt">Xns9471D422CD3EThomasZahrfreenetde@ID-
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">as my proof of no longer being a critic according to rule 398/2</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Thomas =:-)</span></font></div>
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>Kick start 2004
>
>That the status page be brought up to date and a new judge appointed. 'tis
>an action, not a rule.

I believe this dosent need an action, just free time on the part of our hard 
worked admin.  Just send an email asking him to do it, WE dont need to vote 
to make him update things.

$0.02

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This proposal has been updated.  Check it out.  Basically jsut a bit of 
admin to make things work the way they were intended [I think]  for new 
players.

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A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Death

That this game be officially declared dead, and that all players look at
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This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:00 +0000
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Bit drastic maybe, but I know what you mean

On 17 Jan 2004 at 9:49, Nomic Rules Manager wrote:

> 
> A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:
> 
> ---begin rule---
> Death
> 
> That this game be officially declared dead, and that all players look at
> www.nomicron.org or blognomic.blogspot.com for other Nomics.
> ----end rule----
> 
> This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:00 +0000
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Bit drastic maybe, but I know what you mean

On 17 Jan 2004 at 9:49, Nomic Rules Manager wrote:

> 
> A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:
> 
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> 
> That this game be officially declared dead, and that all players look at
> www.nomicron.org or blognomic.blogspot.com for other Nomics.
> ----end rule----
> 
> This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:00 +0000
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+--------+--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
| number | title                                | url                                                     |
+--------+--------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
|    408 | Immutable Tabula Rasa                | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule408 |
|    409 | Rejoining the Game                   | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule409 |
|    410 | Other person in thrall               | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule410 |
|    411 | Ammendment to Fresh Blood (rule 382) | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule411 |
|    412 | Kick start 2004                      | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule412 |
|    413 | Death                                | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule413 |
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On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 01:01:38PM +0100, Thomas Zahr wrote:
> Bit drastic maybe, but I know what you mean

Well, the thing is...

We haven't actually declared the game *started* again.

Last I heard, we were waiting for a few players to reappear.

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On 18 Jan 2004 at 3:42, C. Cooke wrote:

Their vacation is probably over by now. I'm not voting for death yet, especially since we 
just admitted a new player.

I'd like to hear from our admin again as well. 'tis a bit frustrating all around.

> On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 01:01:38PM +0100, Thomas Zahr wrote:
> > Bit drastic maybe, but I know what you mean
> 
> Well, the thing is...
> 
> We haven't actually declared the game *started* again.
> 
> Last I heard, we were waiting for a few players to reappear.
> 

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Thomas Zahr wrote:

>On 18 Jan 2004 at 3:42, C. Cooke wrote:
>  
>
>>On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 01:01:38PM +0100, Thomas Zahr wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Bit drastic maybe, but I know what you mean
>>>      
>>>
>>Well, the thing is...
>>
>>We haven't actually declared the game *started* again.
>>
>>Last I heard, we were waiting for a few players to reappear.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Their vacation is probably over by now. I'm not voting for death yet, especially since we 
>just admitted a new player.
>
>I'd like to hear from our admin again as well. 'tis a bit frustrating all around.
>
Indeed.

The game is, as far as I am concerned, running. The fact that only two 
people appear to be voting is disappointing, though, and if this 
continues for this round of votes I'd be tempted to agree with 
Alexander's notion.

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??
Why the blank email

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Matthew A wrote:

> ??
> Why the blank email 

The system sends out a list of all the things to be voted on this week.

This week, there are none.

Three people voted last week.

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Oh.  I thaught we couldent propose more till voting was done on those ones.  
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On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 08:23:55PM +0000, Aquarion wrote:
> Matthew A wrote:
> 
> >??
> >Why the blank email 
> 
> The system sends out a list of all the things to be voted on this week.
> 
> This week, there are none.
> 
> Three people voted last week.
> 

So how many people are still actually reading this list?

I mean, I had been waiting until everyone was here...
But it seems that half the players have forgotten.

Anyone alive out there?

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yep, though the coffee isn't working yet

On 26 Jan 2004 at 0:58, C. Cooke wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 08:23:55PM +0000, Aquarion wrote:
> > Matthew A wrote:
> > 
> > >??
> > >Why the blank email 
> > 
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> > week.
> > 
> > This week, there are none.
> > 
> > Three people voted last week.
> > 
> 
> So how many people are still actually reading this list?
> 
> I mean, I had been waiting until everyone was here...
> But it seems that half the players have forgotten.
> 
> Anyone alive out there?
> 
> -- 
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Well, Working on the assumption that no activity for almost 2 weeks, and no 
resolution means that this nomic is at least on hiatus, if not dead, Ill 
mentio to you another that you may find interesting.

its Called BLOGNOMIC.

Currently we are deep in the late game of a round, but there is no reason 
whay you cant join (if you want to take the time to read the current rules, 
probarbly about as many as there are here atm)

We have a large set of spells as well as magical items, called gegaws.

Its quite fun, and the action is relativly fast pased (2 days before 
proposals get voted in usually)

If you interested in joining, I remind you of the rule, which im sure you 
have read, which grants new mages a small power boost for stating who 
invited them to join the nomic, Which you will find to be quite a boon.  And 
I also invite you all to join the might school of steam (fire/water) of 
which I am the archmagus.

So if your interested, surf over to

http://blognomic.blogspot.com

The important rules (For those interested, these are basically defining the 
winning condition)
The theme is that of dualing mages.. We are devided into schools, each based 
on 2 of the for elemental energies.

Currently it is possible for one school to call dispersion on the other, at 
which point the 2 schools dual, and the losing school is dispersed, and it 
members must join another school.  The winner of the dynasty will be the 
magus of the last school left standing.


ChinDoGiu.

P.S. If im wrong, And this nomic isnt on hiatus, then start posting stuff :p

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14 players said:
385 - More on Bears (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed

386 - Things on Board (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 4    No: 0    Motion passed

389 - Automatic Food Dispenser (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 4    No: 1    Motion passed

390 - #include  (ccooke):
    Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed

* All passed

(The 14 voters includes Stevie, because I haven't implemented player 
stati yet. Since only five people voted this week, there didn't seem 
much point mucking around)

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Hello, This is the Nomic Reporting System's automated vote
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proposed for voting:


+--------+-------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
| number | title             | url                                                     |
+--------+-------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
|    391 | Amendement to 373 | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule391 |
|    393 | # include 2       | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule393 |
|    394 | Control           | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule394 |
|    395 | Action on Pieces  | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule395 |
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(trying again because the last one wasn't delivered)

Hi,

I'm Sarabian.  Hello to everyone, those I know (all the afe'ers) and
those I don't (everyone else).  I promise not to kill anyone even if
you do mention XML (none of your are my manager and therefore you are
safe).

I've just read the archives and still don't have a clue; nevermind I'm
sure it won't matter if I do Silly things and wear the wrong Hat and
wot not.

It's all very quiet just now, is everyone on holiday?

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Aquarion <nicholas@aquarionics.com> writes:

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A new proposal has happened. It's by Sarabian, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Mentioning the unmentionable

I propose that if you mention XML you shall no longer be a Critic. 
----end rule----

This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:00:00 +0000
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----- Original Message Follows -----
> 
> A new proposal has happened. It's by Sarabian, and they
> have said:
> 
> ---begin rule---
> Mentioning the unmentionable
> 
> I propose that if you mention XML you shall no longer be a
> Critic.  ----end rule----

I think this would be better done as an amendment to rule
356. It should say 'make rule 356 say Everyone is a Ctitic,
unless...'. Also you should specify where mentioning XML
will have this effect. In a proposal? Through the message
system? Also, change 'you' to 'any player'.

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Alex Rodgers wondered aloud:

> I think this would be better done as an amendment to rule
> 356. It should say 'make rule 356 say Everyone is a Ctitic,
> unless...'. Also you should specify where mentioning XML
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> system? Also, change 'you' to 'any player'.

Yes, rule 356 wasn't an action was it where everyone became a critic.
Other bits amended too.

"I propose an ammendment to Rule 356 to say

Everyone is a Critic unless they are reported to have mentioned XML
anywhere. Evidence has be provided to proof this claim (example being
a link, reference to a newsgroup post, or screenshot). "

Not bad for my first ever proposal, just a few changes :)

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385 - More on Bears (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed

386 - Things on Board (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 4    No: 0    Motion passed

389 - Automatic Food Dispenser (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed

390 - #include  (ccooke):
    Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed

391 - Amendement to 373 (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed

393 - # include 2 (Thomas):
    Results:    Yes: 4    No: 0    Motion passed

394 - Control (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 4    No: 0    Motion passed

395 - Action on Pieces (Alexander):
    Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed

All motions passed.

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Hi Aquarion,

I did not get any mail from the list since the 17th. Is the list down? 


BTW, I have still not recalled my password, could you please reset my nomic 
account password to zahr? Thank you.

Cheers,

Thomas



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Just a quick note: rule 373 should now be numbered 391, by
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I'd also like to sign up for the Automatic Food Dispenser,
and I encourage others to do the same.

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Are we actually still playing? Things seem 
to be awfully quite at the moment.

Not that I spend a lot of time thinking up 
rules at the moment.

On 17 Nov 2003 at 21:52, Aquarion wrote:

> 385 - More on Bears (Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed
> 
> 386 - Things on Board (Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 4    No: 0    Motion 
passed
> 
> 389 - Automatic Food Dispenser 
(Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion 
passed
> 
> 390 - #include  (ccooke):
>     Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion 
passed
> 
> 391 - Amendement to 373 (Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion 
passed
> 
> 393 - # include 2 (Thomas):
>     Results:    Yes: 4    No: 0    Motion 
passed
> 
> 394 - Control (Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 4    No: 0    Motion 
passed
> 
> 395 - Action on Pieces (Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion 
passed
> 
> All motions passed.
> 
> *****
> 
> Kegs is currently Judge
> 
> Mailing lists are back
> 
> Aquarion has a project deadline on 21st, 
so may be a little delayed.
> 
> Four people voted last week.
> 
> 
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Ciao,

Thomas =:-)
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Hello, This is the Nomic Reporting System's automated vote
notification system. The following rules have been
proposed for voting:


+--------+--------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
| number | title              | url                                                     |
+--------+--------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
|    399 | Reversing          | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule399 |
|    400 | Encourage interest | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule400 |
|    401 | Action             | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule401 |
+--------+--------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+


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----- Original Message Follows -----
> 14 players said:
> 385 - More on Bears (Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed
> 
> 386 - Things on Board (Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 4    No: 0    Motion passed
> 
> 389 - Automatic Food Dispenser (Alexander):
>     Results:    Yes: 4    No: 1    Motion passed
> 
> 390 - #include  (ccooke):
>     Results:    Yes: 3    No: 1    Motion passed
> 
> * All passed

Let me get this straight. 14 players. 5 players voted. 4
players voted for all proposals. 4 proposals, made by 2
players. Next to no discussion.

Is there anybody out there?

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Hi,

haven't heard anything for a while, is the 
list down, or are we just dormant?


Ciao,

Thomas =:-)
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Since about a week I do not get any mail from the list, neither do I get any proposals 
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A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:

---begin rule---
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Amend rule 201, 'On the man with the vote', to read:
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Every other player has one vote on each proposal.", Replacing XXX in with
the names of the players who voted during the cycle that this proposal was
voted on.
----end rule----

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A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said:

---begin rule---
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That every list member get's a mail from the list, so that they can see if
the list still works.
----end rule----

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A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said:

---begin rule---
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A playing piece moved off a square on the playing board may not return to
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There are three things I do not, and will never, geek or grok. One of 
those is Mail admin, the other is DNS.

The third is Marmite.

The new server happened when the old one died, and everything was moved 
across, all things were good, and the world turned on it's axis.

Except it didn't. As soon as we moved the lists over to atoll, they 
stopped working. This was for four reasons:

	1) DNS
	2) Mail
	3) Mail's DNS.
	4) Mailman.

Basically, the server (2) that was being a mail server wasn't allowed to 
recieve smtp packets on the IP (1) it was bound to (3).

Then Mailman decided it wasn't going to run though the queue anymore, 
because it didn't have a home list. Once I'd found out what a home list 
is, why I didn't have one, why I didn't need one, and why I should set 
one up anyway, it worked.

Yay.

Since the final DNS changes were made a couple of hours ago on my 
register.com account, they will take a couple of days to propergate. I 
find the fact that various old mails are now filtering though encouraging.

We're back.

-- 
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This is great stuff, could I, gently, remind you to reset my password please, I can't 
get back in, and am not be able to vote or propose atm.

Thanks

Cheers,

Thomas =:-)



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Now that we are on-line again, yay, I claim my chocolate for rule 393.

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Great, thanks

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Shouldn't Kegs "repeat" his judgeship, since we were pretty much off the air?

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A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Celebration!

To celebrate the renewal of Acronomic, give all players a bushel of wheat.
----end rule----

This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:00:00 +0000
You can review the existing and proposed rules online at http://www.gkhs.net/nomic//rules.php
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I'd like for the upcoming week to be considered the 'one
week' regards to rule 389, and also to restate my intention
to be on the list.

Also, 395 required Aquarion, the player, to select colours
for those that did not.

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What is the automatic food dispenser, this is the first I've heard about it. If I want one, 
what do I do if I get it?


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Hi,

shouldn't we restart the game? Or did we give up?

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thomas@zahr.de wrote:
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> 

We should, but just to check everyone is still alive:

Could everybody on the list (apart from me and Thomas) please reply to 
this message and CC nicholas@aquarionics.com on it?

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Here you go.


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> > 
> > shouldn't we restart the game? Or did we give up?
> > 
> 
> We should, but just to check everyone is still alive:
> 
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> 
> -- 
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Here you go.


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> > 
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> > 
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> -- 
> Aq
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Aquarion <nicholas@aquarionics.com> writes:

> thomas@zahr.de wrote:
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>>
>
> We should, but just to check everyone is still alive:

There ya go, has the mailing list been flaky at all, I'm pretty sure I hadn't 
seen that post by thomas 

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Aquarion <nicholas@aquarionics.com> writes:

> thomas@zahr.de wrote:
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>> shouldn't we restart the game? Or did we give up?
>>
>
> We should, but just to check everyone is still alive:

There ya go, has the mailing list been flaky at all, I'm pretty sure I hadn't 
seen that post by thomas 

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On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 08:56:15AM +0000, Aquarion wrote:
> thomas@zahr.de wrote:
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> >
> >shouldn't we restart the game? Or did we give up?
> >
> 
> We should, but just to check everyone is still alive:
> 
> Could everybody on the list (apart from me and Thomas) please reply to 
> this message and CC nicholas@aquarionics.com on it?
> 

ACK

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On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 06:34:02PM +0100, thomas@zahr.de wrote:
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Not yet, I hope...

Is everyone back?

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C. Cooke wrote:
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>>Hi,
>>
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> 
> 
> Not yet, I hope...
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> Is everyone back?
> 

4 out of 13 so far.

Um. 5, if you count me. I didn't.

Well, I did in the second number, but not in the four.

*ahem*

5 out of 13.

Seven. Even. I'll come in again.


Alex, Cookie, Aquarion, rho, Jason, James & Thomas have all sucessfully 
posted to the list.

Eli, Gilmae, Martin, Sarabian, Senji & Teut have not, yet, replied.

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the web server needs some seeing to, too.

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the web server needs some seeing to, too.

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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:21:21 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Nomic] Restart the Game - we aten't dead yet?
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and that's what I see. Last Change to page on the 19th of October. Last voting was 
the week before last, ending with rule "Action" no 491, last proposal from the 30th of 
November.

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Are we moving closer to being back in business?

The christmas vacation is coming up, if Ican't play, I have to put some more books 
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Aquarion wrote:
  > Alex, Cookie, Aquarion, rho, Jason, James & Thomas have all sucessfully
> posted to the list.
> 
> Eli, Gilmae, Martin, Sarabian, Senji & Teut have not, yet, replied.


This is still true. Eli, Gilmae, Martin, Sarabian, Senji & Teut have 
been given the new status "Absent", meaning their votes are *not* 
counted, and will thus not affect the unanimity verdict.

To get off this List of Shame, they just have to email me. Eli might 
find this difficult, since her email address is bouncing :-|

The game is hereby reopened, Kegs will remain judge. Processing of 
unprocessed, voted upon, rules will happen in a sec.

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14 players said:
396 - Jump start (Alexander):
	Results:	Yes: 2	No: 1	Motion rejected
	Actions:	* Failed - required unanimity since it
			would cause an immutable rule to be modified

397 - Democracy (Alexander):
	Results:	Yes: 2	No: 1	Motion rejected
	Actions:	* Failed - required unanimity since it
			would cause an immutable rule to be modified

398 - Mentioning the unmentionable (Sarabian):
	Results:	Yes: 4	No: 0	Motion passed
	Actions:	* Ted voted Yes

399 - Reversing (Thomas):
	Results:	Yes: 2	No: 1	Motion passed

400 - Encourage interest (Alexander):
	Results:	Yes: 1	No: 1	Motion rejected

401 - Action (Thomas):
	Results:	Yes: 2	No: 0	Motion passed

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A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Survive on Air Alone

Repeal rule 323. [There should not be a reward for proposals, as each rule
change should be a result of discussion.]
----end rule----

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I don't like that proposal, I want my chocolate! And how do we get a barter economy 
going, if we don't have sources of income?

On 14 Dec 2003 at 18:18, Nomic Rules Manager wrote:

> 
> A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:
> 
> ---begin rule---
> Survive on Air Alone
> 
> Repeal rule 323. [There should not be a reward for proposals, as each
> rule change should be a result of discussion.] ----end rule----
> 
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> +0000 You can review the existing and proposed rules online at
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:42:07PM +0000, Nomic Rules Manager wrote:
> 
> A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said:
> 
> ---begin rule---
> Not of bread alone, ...
> 
> That players can trade and barter items for other items, and other items
> only. Items are, for instance, chocolate and drinks that have been awarded
> acccording to rule 323
> ----end rule----

So... like playing pieces?

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A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Not of bread alone, ...

That players can trade and barter items for other items, and other items
only. Items are, for instance, chocolate and drinks that have been awarded
acccording to rule 323
----end rule----

This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:00:00 +0000
You can review the existing and proposed rules online at http://www.gkhs.net/nomic//rules.php
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I don't like that proposal, I want my chocolate! And how do we get a barter economy 
going, if we don't have sources of income?

On 14 Dec 2003 at 18:18, Nomic Rules Manager wrote:

> 
> A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:
> 
> ---begin rule---
> Survive on Air Alone
> 
> Repeal rule 323. [There should not be a reward for proposals, as each
> rule change should be a result of discussion.] ----end rule----
> 
> This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:00:00
> +0000 You can review the existing and proposed rules online at
> http://www.gkhs.net/nomic//rules.php -- Nomic Rules Manager, Mainained
> by Aquarion (aq@gkhs.net)
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I don't like that proposal, I want my chocolate! And how do we get a barter economy 
going, if we don't have sources of income?

On 14 Dec 2003 at 18:18, Nomic Rules Manager wrote:

> 
> A new proposal has happened. It's by Alexander, and they have said:
> 
> ---begin rule---
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> 
> Repeal rule 323. [There should not be a reward for proposals, as each
> rule change should be a result of discussion.] ----end rule----
> 
> This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:00:00
> +0000 You can review the existing and proposed rules online at
> http://www.gkhs.net/nomic//rules.php -- Nomic Rules Manager, Mainained
> by Aquarion (aq@gkhs.net)
> 
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:42:07PM +0000, Nomic Rules Manager wrote:
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> A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said:
> 
> ---begin rule---
> Not of bread alone, ...
> 
> That players can trade and barter items for other items, and other items
> only. Items are, for instance, chocolate and drinks that have been awarded
> acccording to rule 323
> ----end rule----

So... like playing pieces?

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On 14 Dec 2003 at 18:58, C. Cooke wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:42:07PM +0000, Nomic Rules Manager wrote: >
> > A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said: > >
> ---begin rule--- > Not of bread alone, ... > > That players can trade
> and barter items for other items, and other items > only. Items are,
> for instance, chocolate and drinks that have been awarded > acccording
> to rule 323 > ----end rule----
> 
> So... like playing pieces?
> 

Nope, rule 323 talks about chocolate and drink of choice, but we could of course 
enlarge this proposal.

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On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:59:59PM +0100, thomas@zahr.de wrote:
> On 14 Dec 2003 at 18:58, C. Cooke wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:42:07PM +0000, Nomic Rules Manager wrote: >
> > > A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said: > >
> > ---begin rule--- > Not of bread alone, ... > > That players can trade
> > and barter items for other items, and other items > only. Items are,
> > for instance, chocolate and drinks that have been awarded > acccording
> > to rule 323 > ----end rule----
> > 
> > So... like playing pieces?
> > 
> 
> Nope, rule 323 talks about chocolate and drink of choice, but we could of course 
> enlarge this proposal.

That's not what the rule *says*. it says: "Items are,
for instance, chocolate and drinks that have been awarded 
acccording to rule 323"

I'd read that as: <stuff provided by rule 323> is an example of <item>

Hence,item is a wider descriptive term...


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A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said:

---begin rule---
Christmas

That every player be presented with a trading chocolate egg.
----end rule----

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Unfortunately, the web site produces a dns error, ...

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Proposal 405 is not (1) the enactment, repeal, or amendment
of a mutable rule; (2) the enactment, repeal, or amendment
of an amendment of a mutable rule; or (3) the transmutation
of an immutable rule into a mutable rule or vice versa, and
therefore not a rule change as defined by rule 103.
Therefore it should not be voted upon, or enacted.

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A new proposal has happened. It's by ccooke, and they have said:

---begin rule---
A lump of Coal

[ *someone* had to do it ]

Each player may be either Naughty or Nice. 
Players are Nice until they are defined to be Naughty.

The Central point of the Board shall be defined as 'The North Pole'. Once
a year (on or after December the 25th, as appropriate depending on turns)
each player shall receive a Gift from the denizens of the North Pole. If
that player is nice, it may be anything they want (limited to items that
exist within the game already). If they are Naughty, it shall be a lump of
Coal.

The terrain of the North Pole is defined as:

'Snow': DIFFICULT and BARREN. Also FREEZING and WET, which are currently
undefined but hey :-)
----end rule----

This will be voted on for the week begininng Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:00:00 +0000
You can review the existing and proposed rules online at http://www.gkhs.net/nomic//rules.php
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On 14 Dec 2003 at 19:13, C. Cooke wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:59:59PM +0100, thomas@zahr.de wrote:
> > On 14 Dec 2003 at 18:58, C. Cooke wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:42:07PM +0000, Nomic Rules Manager
> > > wrote: >
> > > > A new proposal has happened. It's by Thomas, and they have said:
> > > > > >
> > > ---begin rule--- > Not of bread alone, ... > > That players can
> > > trade and barter items for other items, and other items > only.
> > > Items are, for instance, chocolate and drinks that have been
> > > awarded > acccording to rule 323 > ----end rule----
> > > 
> > > So... like playing pieces?
> > > 
> > 
> > Nope, rule 323 talks about chocolate and drink of choice, but we
> > could of course enlarge this proposal.
> 
> That's not what the rule *says*. it says: "Items are,
> for instance, chocolate and drinks that have been awarded 
> acccording to rule 323"
> 
> I'd read that as: <stuff provided by rule 323> is an example of <item>
> 
> Hence,item is a wider descriptive term...
> 
> 

You are, of course, right <grumble mumble grrrrrrrrr>. But that is not what I *meant* 
<bah! why can't people just read what I mean, bah!>

Fine, let her rip.

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Thanks for that.

I going to need a login so I can vote as well.  Can you arrange that?

ChinDoGu


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Rule 332 should be updated, it was accepted, therefore the bit saying if
it was accepted, remove this from the rule should be gone

Also, not wanting to make your life difficult, but does the game board
need to be updated?

ChinDoGu



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Me joining should be an action not a rule.  Sorry for making so much
extra work for you :p

ChinDoGu



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>1) Proposals happen via the site. Until you answer my question about 
>what you want your username to be, I can't give you an account.

Im sorry.  I thaught I did already.  ChinDoGu please.

2) *please* do not post to the list in HTML form. the nomic list is 
text-only

Again oops.  Stoopid Outlook - Hopefully this is plain text


3) The address you posted from isn't the address you're subscribed to, 
and for anti-spam reasons, the list only accepts submissions from 
addresses it recognises. I can add you to the list of addresses it 
accepts mail from, if you like.

Hmm.  My bad sent em from wrong address.  Nah, don't add this one, im
using outlook to access my hotmail, and forgot to change source on the
drop down.



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What happened, is the server down again? I certainly remember 
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Hello, This is the Nomic Reporting System's automated vote
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+--------+-----------------------+---------------------------------------------------------+
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|    406 | A lump of Coal        | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule406 |
|    407 | ChinDoGu Join Request | http://www.gkhs.net/nomic/rules.php?view=voting#rule407 |
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7 players said:
404 - Not of bread alone, ... (Thomas):
	Results:	Yes: 2	No: 1	Motion passed 

403 - Survive on Air Alone (Alexander):
	Results:	Yes: 1	No: 2	Motion rejected 

405 - Christmas (Thomas):
	Results:	Yes: 2	No: 1	Motion passed 

Everyone now has a chocolate egg.

Yay.

Three people voted this week.

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Hey there.  Im ChinDoGu, and thanks for voting to let me in.
 
Ive got a few rules I want to post, but I left my notes at work, so
you'll have t wait till tomorrow.
 
Incidentally im an aussie, so when I say that, I mean about 11 hours
from now.
 
But just to get things rolling, 2 small issues.
 
1)       we have at least 2 people who are no longer critics.
Aquarion - thanks to his comments in rule 381
Sarabian - thanks to his comments in rule 398
2)       Why is 382 listed as an action rather than a rule? It looks to
be written as a rule and as such should apply to me, but it is not
listed in the rule set.
Can I get a confirmation as to wether it is a rule or a completed action
please
 
Thanks
 
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till tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial=
'><span
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><span
class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>we</span></font></span><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> have at least 2 people who are no longer =
critics.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
class=3DSpellE><cite><i><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Aquarion</span></font></i></cite></span><cite>=
<i><font
face=3D"Times New Roman"> &#8211; thanks to his comments in rule =
381<o:p></o:p></font></i></cite></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
class=3DSpellE><cite><i><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sarabian</span></font></i></cite></span><cite>=
<i><font
face=3D"Times New Roman"> &#8211; thanks to his comments in rule =
398</font></i></cite><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial=
'><span
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Why is 382
listed as an action rather than a rule? It looks to be written as a rule =
and as
such should apply to me, but it is not listed in the rule =
set.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Can I get a confirmation as =
to
wether it is a rule or a completed action <span =
class=3DGramE>please</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>ChinDoGu<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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Hi Aquarion,

I seem to be off the list, leastways, I don't get any mail any more



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Then let's say

Welcome

Cheers,

Thomas =:-)

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Then let's say

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