Subject: ackanomic Digest V4 #252
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ackanomic Digest	Saturday, September 18 1999	Volume: 04  Issue: 252

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From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Observer
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:46:19 -0400 (EDT)

> We have a new observer, writing from the email address
> [email-masked] and the name Uncle Don Ross. Welcome.
> 
> Quoth, acting Registrar
> 
> -- 
Hi Uncle Don Ross
R-atilla

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From: "Aaron V. Humphrey" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Veins
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:46:30 -0400 (EDT)

I dance clothed on the town hall steps.

I go to the Monolith and have some harf pudding.

I chew the anti-gumball.

I give A$1 to rufus.

I eat a pistachio nut.

I go to the Lonely Mountain and pitch a tent.

I reveal the following portion of the map: "Lorenai".

I sink into the benthic ooze and await further developments.

--
--Alfvaen(Web page:http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/)
Song In My Head--Queen:Liar
Current Book--Lynn Flewelling:Luck In The Shadows
Please, no deja vu; I don't want to go through that again

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From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fairy Land
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:52:59 -0400 (EDT)

> Duncan Richer wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Eric Plumb wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, K 2 wrote:
> > >
> > > > I support Robert Sevin aka Tin Observer's nomination as Elder - IIRC
> > > > this is the first time e has left...
> > >
> > > As do I.
> >
> > As I do.
>
> I as do.
WooHoo me too

R-attila

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Subject: Acka: *ping*
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:42:05 -0400 (EDT)

Today is Saturday, the 18th day of September, and 
the Machine That Goes *ping* Has Gone *ping* today.
Since I have been scholar, the Machine has gone *ping* 9 times.

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 729 (I hope) - (Clamshell Lawyer)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:06:26 -0400 (EDT)

Clamshell Lawyer has been selected.

Call for Judgement 729 - September 18, 1999
Subject: Clayton's Condition
Initiator: Quoth the Raven (17 Sep 1999 4:24 Acka)
Judge: Clamshell Lawyer
Judgement:

Statement:
Quoth the Raven has an Unclaimed Winning Condition by Rule 2-2

Reasoning:
Initially I was not planning to try to claim this winning condition, but
as Red Mao Gang pointed out, it could be somewhat interesting due to the
fact that no rule appeared to grant it to me.

Rule 8 states (for example):

"Winning Conditions may only be created, destroyed, or manipulated as
described by the rules."

and

"When a player achieves a Winning Condition, a Winning Condition is
created in his possession in the Unclaimed state, with its creator
attribute set to the rule number of the rule which caused the Winning
Condition to be achieved."

The immediately apparent problem with my trying to claim the winning
condition apparently granted to me by proposal 4365 is that no rule
appears to have granted it.

However, Rule 2-2 states:

"If a proposal is accepted, then any one-time effects, such as changes
to the rules, shall be applied, one at a time, in the order in which
they appear in the proposal. (Ambiguous, retroactive, and/or meaningless
effects are ignored.)"

I would therefore argue that P4365 caused R2-2 to grant me a winning
condition.

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The one
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:33:51 -0400 (EDT)

I give 1 A$ to Slakko, Alfvaen, Reductio, IB, Quoth, EA!P! and /dev/joe

K 2

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:37:50 -0400 (EDT)

After aquiring Phoebe's match box by means unspecified on 8 Aug 1999
11:56:00, 404 Not Found has lost it. Last night IdiotBoy was seen by
reliable witnesses in 404's vicinity, it is possible e may now be in
possession of phoebe's box. A reward is offered.

K 2
acting speaker maybe

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: CFJ 728 (Burn the Witch)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:00:59 -0400 (EDT)

Burn the Witch has defulated on CFJ 728 it has been assigned to EA!P!

K 2

Towsner wrote:
> 
> I seem to be having trouble with this CFJ.
> 
> Call for Judgement 728 - August 12, 1999
> Subject: Affect or effect?
> Initiator: else...if
> Judge: Burn the Witch
> Judgement:
> 
> Statement:
>         Studge has a Voting Characteristic of 0.
> 
> Reasoning:
>         The question is whether or not the act of changing Studge's VC to 0
> has an effect on anyone else.  The argument advanced to suggest that it
> does is that it requires the harfer (in this case the Dungeon Master) to
> harf the change.
>         The flaw in the arugment is that the Dungeon Master has a
> responsibility to harf the game state accurately regardless.  The harfer
> has an equal responsibility to scour every message whether or not the
> message does anything.  Slakko argues that because he could be prosecuted
> for not harfing the change, it should be counted as an effect, but this is
> equally true whether or not the message changes the game state.  If the
> message does not contain anything regarding Voting Characteristcs, yet
> Slakko records a change to the game state by accident, he is just as
> prosecutable.  So the change to Studge's VC is not an effect: it changes
> the game state, but Slakko's has to do the same thing regardless of whether
> or not a characteristic is affected.  The fact that, in practice, it
> creates more work for him is an artifice of the way we do things, not a
> legal distinction.
> 
> --
> -Henry Towsner
> 
>         <[email-masked]>
> 
>         Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and
> enjoy it.
>                 -Logan Pearsall Smith

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Award Miscellany
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:26:34 -0400 (EDT)

In a simple ceremony in the park EA!P! was awared two silver stripes for
reaching a BCR of 83, while Red Mao Gang received one for reaching 112.

K 2
acting president maybe

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From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: trade offer
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:33:11 -0400 (EDT)

I offer to trade one nosesack of ore for one $A to someone who hasn't given
either me or the entity formerly known as dragon mage 1$A, and on the
condtition that they don't give 'em one.  I have silver and I believe brown.
Your choice.

Mr no pop culture

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From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: grr
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:46:37 -0400 (EDT)

I give /dev/joe a nosesack of silver ore.

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From: Eric Plumb <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The Financier Doesn't Have Enough To Do
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:21:54 -0400 (EDT)

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote:

> I offer to trade one nosesack of ore for one $A to someone who hasn't given
> either me or the entity formerly known as dragon mage 1$A, and on the
> condtition that they don't give 'em one.  I have silver and I believe brown.
> Your choice.

I give every Ackanomic player except Red Mao Gang and rufus A$1.  Then I
give IB an extra A$1 for amusing me.

-Hubert

All syllogisms have three statements. Therefore, this is not a syllogism. 

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From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Elder Sevin
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:27:23 -0400 (EDT)

>I support the nomination of Robert Sevin, aka Tin Observer, to the
>Hall of Elders.
>
>/dev/joe

As do I... what happened to RS?

CnH

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