Subject: ackanomic Digest V4 #247
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:00:02 -0400 (EDT)

ackanomic Digest	Monday, September 13 1999	Volume: 04  Issue: 247

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From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Puzzle Treasure Part 2
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:20:58 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Joseph DeVincentis wrote:

> Here is a second puzzle to add points in your quest for my big treasure.
> Several players scored as many as 6 points in the Odd Man Out puzzle
> I presented some time ago.
> 
> This puzzle, Cutting Squares, is from Puzzle Fun, a newsletter published
> in Argentina focused on puzzles of this type.  They're running a contest,
> but the prize is just a subscription to the newsletter, so it's mostly
> just for fun.
> 
> To enter my treasure hunt contest, send solutions to any or all of the
> five challenges below.  To score points, you must beat my best solutions
> on these puzzles; you score one point for each piece by which you beat
> the best solution I know about for that challenge.  Sometime next year,
> the newsletter's best received solutions should be revealed; these
> automatically become the "best so far" solutions when released, if they
> beat any of the ones I already had, and if this contest is still running
> then.  I'm not giving out my best scores, because in some cases, knowing
> exactly what I scored may help you figure out my solution, but I will
> tell you that my best solutions on the five puzzles used a total of 85
> pieces.
> 
> When you send in an entry, I will respond, letting you know if your
> solution was good enough to score any points (and if you do score points,
> I will announce the number of points publicly).
> 
> Cutting Squares I:
> Cut a 10x10 square, an 11x11 square, and a 12x12 square (total area 365)
> into as few total pieces as possible so that the pieces can be rearranged
> precisely to form a 13x13 square and a 14x14 square with no holes or
> overlap.  For example, a simple solution involves using the 11x11 and
> 12x12 whole, but cutting the 10x10 into 8 1x10 strips and 20 1x1 pieces,
> and using these pieces to make 1-unit borders around the other two squares.
> 
> All the squares should be separate (no solutions that require the squares
> to be adjacent so pieces can be part of 2 different squares).  It is
> permissible to make cuts in any direction and position whatsoever
> (diagonals, or cutting the unit squares in half, etc.), but my best
> solutions so far do not do so.  You may rotate pieces or flip them over
> between the two arrangements.  There are no other restrictions on the
> shapes of the pieces or cuts you use in this problem.
> 
> Communicate your solutions to me in whatever way is convenient (but I
> must be able to interpret whatever you send me), but if you stick with
> leaving the unit squares whole, it is probably easiest to use ASCII
> diagrams (be sure to use a fixed-width font to construct them) to
> illustrate the cuts, with different symbols for each piece (with perhaps
> one common letter for all the 1x1 pieces), as in this example for
> cutting a 3x3 and 4x4 to make a 5x5 (x = 1x1):
> 
> AAA CCCC CCCCx
> Axx CCCB CCCxx
> xxx CCCB CCCxA
>     CCBB CCBxA
>          BBBAA

Let's have a quick go at a basic solution:

AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
AAAAAAAAAACCC
DDDDDDDDDDDDE
DDDDDDDDDDDDE
DDDDDDDDDDDDE

BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
BBBBBBBBBBBFFF
GGGGGGGGGGGGHH
GGGGGGGGGGGGHH
GGGGGGGGGGGGHH

Where A = 10x10 square, B = 11x11 square, C,D,E,F,G,H = 12x12 square:

CCCCCCCCCCHH
CCCCCCCCCCHH
CCCCCCCCCCHH
DDDDDDDDDDDD
DDDDDDDDDDDD
DDDDDDDDDDDD
GGGGGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGGGGG
GGGGGGGGGGGG
FFFFFFFFFFFE
FFFFFFFFFFFE
FFFFFFFFFFFE

making it an 8 piece cut.

Yours,
Slakko
-- 
Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
Insert random funny line here.

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From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Puzzle Treasure Part 2
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:21:54 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Joseph DeVincentis wrote:
> 
> > Here is a second puzzle to add points in your quest for my big treasure.
> > Several players scored as many as 6 points in the Odd Man Out puzzle
> > I presented some time ago.

D'oh!
Must Remember To Reply Correctly.

-- 
Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
Insert random funny line here.

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Simon Says.
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:26:58 -0400 (EDT)

This round of Simon Says took a bit longer than the others.
The interesting thing is that players didn't really have to do much
of anything to proceed into the next round.

If this was a real game I'd give mr. no pop culutre and Red Mao Gang
Fair Play awards.  As it is they get NOTHING, I tell you, NOTHING!

Continuing into this round we find all three players still in the game.

/dev/joe
mr. no pop culture
Red Mao Gang

Best of luck to all players.  You have three days from now!

IB

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From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: mining
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:59:58 -0400 (EDT)

I go to the lonely mountain  and mine for ore.  

I point out to the speaker that E owes me a random deterimination.

rufus^Wmr culture pop no

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: betrayal
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:19:08 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
> Red Mao Gang is *not* my evil twin.

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: mining
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:21:25 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote:
> I go to the lonely mountain  and mine for ore.  
> 
> I point out to the speaker that E owes me a random deterimination.

I haven't done this yet this week.   I go to the mountain and mine for
ore.

I then return home.

--JT

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: betrayal
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:22:30 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, JT wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
> > Red Mao Gang is *not* my evil twin.

You know, it really sucks when you compose a message, go to cancel it and
it ends up sending a blank message because the send key (^X) and the
cancel key (^C) are right next to each other in pine.  (Sorry about that
:)

--JT

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From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: mining
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:24:02 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, JT wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote:
> > I go to the lonely mountain  and mine for ore.  
> > 
> > I point out to the speaker that E owes me a random deterimination.
> 
> I haven't done this yet this week.   I go to the mountain and mine for
> ore.
> 
> I then return home.
> 

Ooooh... I haven't either!

I go to the Lonely Mountain and mine for ore.

I go to the AIGR.  I purchase 5 additional heads at a cost of A$250.

I go home.

IB

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From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Acka: Ore Rush!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:43:43 -0400 (EDT)

Oooh!  Oooh!  Me too!

I go to the Lonely Mountain and mine for ore.

ThinMan

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: RBBT
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:37:14 -0400 (EDT)

I pick up the RBBT which is in my possession.  I point it at
"Rachel L. Walmley", press the big button marked Energize and supply the
anagram of "Clamshell Lawyer"

--JT

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: RBBT
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:40:20 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, JT wrote:
> I pick up the RBBT which is in my possession.  I point it at
> "Rachel L. Walmley", press the big button marked Energize and supply the
> anagram of "Clamshell Lawyer"

I point it at Rachel L. Walmsley even and supply the anagram of "Clamshell
Lawyer" while pressing the button in case the previous wasn't unambiguous.

--JT

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From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: RBBT
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:49:21 -0400 (EDT)

>I pick up the RBBT which is in my possession.  I point it at
>"Rachel L. Walmley", press the big button marked Energize and supply the
>anagram of "Clamshell Lawyer"
>
Give in to your anger, TJ!

BLMP.

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Subject: Acka: Mining
From: Joseph DeVincentis <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:01:54 -0400 (EDT)

I go to Ye Olde Mining Shop and buy a Stick of Dynamite, a Shovel, and
a Pickaxe, then I go to the Lonely Mountain and mine it.

/dev/joe

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Subject: Acka: Cutting Squares
From: Joseph DeVincentis <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:17:58 -0400 (EDT)

Slakko has scored one point in the Cutting Squares contest.

/dev/joe

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From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Quarry!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:39:47 -0400 (EDT)

Who's our current Speaker?  Do we have one?  Is are we in a Nomination or
Election period?  Who's your Daddy?!?

IB
saw there's an National Enquirer TV show today

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From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: mining
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:49:59 -0400 (EDT)

> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote:
> > I go to the lonely mountain  and mine for ore.
> >
> > I point out to the speaker that E owes me a random deterimination.
>
> I haven't done this yet this week.   I go to the mountain and mine for
> ore.
>
> I then return home.
>
> --JT
Whats this mining junk?

What do i need to do it?

If possible i go to the lonly mountain and mine for ore (prolly cant though)

R-attila

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