Subject: ackanomic Digest V4 #234
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ackanomic Digest	Tuesday, August 31 1999	Volume: 04  Issue: 234

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: Impeach the witch!
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:23:44 -0400 (EDT)

Prolly too late - and its prolly already failed - but I vote no on this

K 2

David Scheidt wrote:
> 
> I file an impreachment  paper against Emperor Ai! Perdito! or the entity who
> hold the office of rule-harfer for gross, willfull violation of the rules in
> eir harfing of Proposal 4330.  I urge you all to vote Yes on the matter of
> deepest importance to are freedom as Ackans!  Don't let tyrants rule us!
> Sack the criminal!
> 
> rufus,
> some title here surely!

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: New Player (Grimace) (Quoth) 
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:23:46 -0400 (EDT)

Has this been made offical? Does e have a mentor?

Assuming e has been subscribed to the lists (can you still do it
yourself?) I welcome Grimace to Ackanomic

K 2

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:55:55 +0100 (BST)
From: Graeme Jefferis <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: ACKA: Joining.

I'd like to join Ackanomic, please.

My email address is [email-masked].
My real name is Graeme Jefferis, and I'd like to play as 'Grimace'.

Thanks.

 -Graeme.

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From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 181 (Pregnant Hippo, Red Mao Gang)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:50:34 -0400 (EDT)

>It appears to me that this was a misharfing of proposal 4266.

fixed.

I donate A$10 to the twits.
-- Emperor Ai! Pedrito! B(Scam)
DeeJay * Dungeon Master * Herald * Rule-Harfer
 Crazy French-Scotsman * Student (Scamology)

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Thesis: Research question
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:07:24 -0400 (EDT)

I would appreciate if people could reply to me with the answer (as long as
you wish to make it) to the following question(s).

a)  What makes a treasure interesting?
b)  Which treasures in ackanomic have you sought?  What made them appeal
    to you?
c)  What treasures have you avoided seeking?  What made them not worth
    seeking?
d)  Have you buried any treasures?
e)  Have any of your treasures been found?

I will be using the responses to these questions to aid me in my thesis
paper on Treasure Hunting.

I Compose A$23 into a trinket named "Gold Medal" and the description
"This is a Gold medal on a silver and purple coloured ribbon.   The
inscription on the medal thanks the finder of the treasure for their
help and insight.".

I Compose A$23 into a trinket named "Silver Medal" and the description
"This is a Silver medal on a silver and purple coloured ribbon.   The
inscription on the medal thanks the finder of the treasure for their
help and insight.".

I Compose A$23 into a trinket named "Bronze Medal" and the description
"This is a Bronze medal on a silver and purple coloured ribbon.   The
inscription on the medal thanks the finder of the treasure for their
help and insight.".

I bury "Gold Medal" with the following map as delimited by FIRST
FIRST
This treasure shall be found by the player who submits to the author
of this treasure map the most interesting and insightful answers to the
questions asked for his Treasure Hunting thesis.
FIRST

I bury "Silver Medal" with the following map as delimited by SECOND
SECOND
This treasure shall be found by the player who submits to the author
of this treasure map the second most interesting and insightful answers to
the questions asked for his Treasure Hunting thesis.
SECOND

I bury "Bronze Medal" with the following map as delimited by THIRD
THIRD
This treasure shall be found by the player who submits to the author
of this treasure map the third most interesting and insightful answers to
the questions asked for his Treasure Hunting thesis.
THIRD

I will pay any player who does not find one of the above treasures A$5 for
their time and effort in taking part in this survey, this money payable
after the above treasures have been found.  (I would sign a contract to
this effect, but contracts have been repealed (again))

--JT/Red Mao Gang

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Player name archive?
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:38:10 -0400 (EDT)

K 2 wrote:
> 
> Rachel L Walmsley wrote:
> 
> > Ah, I apparently didn't make myself clear enough. I can't access the
> > archive of past player names required for ensuring that nobody tries to
> > take a name that has been used previously. The link points to
> > http://www.ackanomic.org/~rufus/acka/playerarch.html but that generates
> > a 404 error message. Do you have a copy of this file?
> 
> Did this get resolved? It seems I too am now in a position that I need
> this file as well.
> 
> K 2

found it at http://www.ackanomic.org/~jt/old/acka/playerarch.html

I give A$ 5 to IB for providing the ackanomic.org thing

K 2

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Subject: Acka: *ping*
From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:42:01 -0400 (EDT)

Today is Tuesday, the 31st day of August, and 
the Machine That Goes *ping* Has Gone *ping* today.
Since I have been scholar, the Machine has gone *ping* 4 times.

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From: Rachel L Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Vacation
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:58:13 -0400 (EDT)

I ack Cthulhu's name change, and then go on vacation with an estimated
date of return of September 8.

Quoth

-- 
Rachel Walmsley. [email-masked] ICQ: 2925739
Personal page - http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
The Doh! Zone - http://www.dohzone.uk.eu.org/
Ahab says, "I don't care who you are, here's to your dream!"

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From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: sticking your ore in
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:26:31 -0400 (EDT)

>Hey ThinMan, I offer you 1 nose-sack of Brown Ore for one nose-sack of
>Pink Ore.
>
>--JT

Done.

ThinMan

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From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Acka: Ore rush of '03
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:50:43 -0400 (EDT)

I go to the Lonely Mountain and mine for ore.

And it is my duty to inform everyone that:

Repeated and continual mining of the Lonely Mountain will render it
structurally unsound within no more than 5000 years!  All of Acka is in
danger when the mountain finally topples!  It could be a cold, painful
death for all we hold dear as the entire bottom face of Acka is buried
under the debris.  And, even worse -- without the Lonely Mountain as a
landmark we will all be hopelessly lost!

ThinMan
Be afraid.  At least a little.

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From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Ore rush of '03
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:57:02 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, John Bollinger wrote:

> 
> I go to the Lonely Mountain and mine for ore.
> 
> And it is my duty to inform everyone that:
> 
> Repeated and continual mining of the Lonely Mountain will render it
> structurally unsound within no more than 5000 years!  All of Acka is in
> danger when the mountain finally topples!  It could be a cold, painful
> death for all we hold dear as the entire bottom face of Acka is buried
> under the debris.  And, even worse -- without the Lonely Mountain as a
> landmark we will all be hopelessly lost!

Without a coordinate system and a city map we are already hopelessly lost.

Yours,
Slakko
Map-Harfer
should have been paying more attention when that proposal which chucked
away a lot of geography stuff passed.
Now a Map-Harfer without maps to harf.
(Longest continuously held office in Acka - *dare* anyone kill it off?)

-- 
Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
Insert random funny line here.

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From: Henry Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 181 (Slakko, Red Mao Gang)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:13:01 -0400 (EDT)

	Slakko will fill in for Quoth the Raven (who is no longer, as I
accidentally wrote, Pregnant Hippo).

--
-Henry Towsner

	<[email-masked]>

	Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and
enjoy it.
		-Logan Pearsall Smith

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From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Ore rush of '03
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)

>Yours,
>Slakko
>Map-Harfer
>should have been paying more attention when that proposal which chucked
>away a lot of geography stuff passed.
>Now a Map-Harfer without maps to harf.

You still have a map!

-- Emperor Ai! Pedrito! B(Scam)
DeeJay * Dungeon Master * Herald * Rule-Harfer
 Crazy French-Scotsman * Student (Scamology)

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From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: Proposal 4334 rejected
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:18:27 -0400 (EDT)

[...]

  Emperor Ai! Pedrito! -200    -100 ==> 4304

Does EAP really have a VC of 10?  When did that happen?

ThinMan
Skeptic

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:  Acka: Proposal 4334 rejected
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:56:00 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, John Bollinger wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>   Emperor Ai! Pedrito! -200    -100 ==> 4304
> 
> Does EAP really have a VC of 10?  When did that happen?

He doesn't.  He has a VC of 5 and votes are (+/-)100+20*vc max/min.  At
least that was the case last time I checked the rules :)

--JT

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Old News
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:24:55 -0400 (EDT)

Scandall and WoHo have finally thwaed and like all perrisibles have been
placed in the treasury.

Scandall
December 22, 1998 14:52 -> 01 May 1999 09:45:58

WoHo
December 26, 1998, 19:51 -> 20 Mar 1999 22:53:01

K 2

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From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: Proposal 4334 rejected
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:27:30 -0400 (EDT)

>> Does EAP really have a VC of 10?  When did that happen?
>
>He doesn't.  He has a VC of 5 and votes are (+/-)100+20*vc max/min.  At
>least that was the case last time I checked the rules :)
>
>--JT

oh.  never mind.

ThinMan

P.S.:  Your Scaremonger is forgetting details of the rules at an alarming
rate!  You should be shocked, ammazed, and -- yes -- terrified!!!  Why?
Because if the Scaremonger does not remember the rules then his ability
to discern among the bone-chilling, the spine-tingling, and the "don't
tell this to Great Aunt Ruth" categories of events is impaired!  How can
you be sure that you are being properly fearful of the right things?  What
if the destruction of all Acka were more imminent than usual and you were
able to sleep peacefully at night?  You might actually sleep through the
awful flaming Armageddon!  In this time of crisis there is only one thing
to do!  FEAR EVERYTHING!!!!  -- TM

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From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Public: commission d'arts
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:40:35 -0400 (EDT)

1. ThinMan's reading of a Scroll of Crumble
     http://www.ackanomic.org/~k2/moon/crumble.html

2. else...if's nota Scaremonger message
     attached.

3. K 2's T240 & 250
     http://www.ackanomic.org/~k2/treasure/treasure.htm#240

4. ThinMan's Canadian paranoia post.
     attached.

I shall put together a web page presently....

K 2

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Subject: Acka: War
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:42:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Reply-To: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]

Ackanomicans,

Point the first:

It being the case that Ackanomic is now considering a declaration of war
on Canada, let us observe that although Canada may attempt to hide
behind a carefully-crafted veil of innocuosity, it is indeed a powerful
and insidious force.  Shatner, the Sutherlands, and their ilk are only
the tip of the iceberg.  If we also consider Doug and Bob McKenzie,
Bizarre, and the province of Quebec (successionist tendencies are a
ruse) we begin to get a more realistic view of the scope of the danger.

Point the second:

In anticipation, no doubt, of our outrage and militaristic inclinations,
Canada has prepared itself by raising and maintaining sophisticated
armed forces and intelligence operations, as well as by recruiting
allies as represented by their membership in the North Atlantic Treaty
Organization (NATO).  In consideration of NATO's own militaristic
tendencies -- even greater, it appears, than our own -- we must proceed
with utmost caution.
I, for one, do not care to see my neighbors' houses struck by
precision-guided munitions.

Point the third:

We must take into account the fact that our security has already been
breached, and Canadian intelligence operatives have infiltrated our
operations at the highest levels.  Consider the inimitable Alfvaen, who,
though now retired from Ackanomic, had access to even our most highly
classified documents during his career of Ackanomic service.  Let it
not be forgotten that he was and is a Canadian.

Conclusions:

The evidence is clear: we are no match for mighty Canada.  Not even with
two squadrons of Dragons and five divisions of Really Big Blue Things
could we overcome their and their allies' might.  I offer, therefore, an
alternative to war -- surrender.  I will shortly be drafting a proposal
stipulating that surrender, and hope that our citizens will see its
wisdom.

ThinMan

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From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Nothing to fear but Ackanomic
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:31:31 -0400 (EDT)
 
A message from your Scaremonger, to the tune of "The Ballad of Sweeny
Todd":

Attend the tale of number oh.
We should have abandoned it long ago.
No other number could survive
When by zero it was multiplied.
Although it had nothing to add,
It's tale is sad:
The demon number of Acka.

It tried to reach out to others too:
Not what a number ought to do.
Finally it became a third,
By 3 to 3, a vote absurd,
>From else,
>From foolish else,
The Evil Math Troll of Acka.

Cut those numbers down, zero,
Make them all like you!
If one-third equals zero,
Two-thirds does too!

In adding it was just a blank:
Nothing would grow, but nothing shrank.
Subtracting too was just the same:
It had no value to its name
Its value was infinitesimal,
'Twas really null.
The demon number of Acka.

Inconspicuous zero was,
Almost nonexistant it was.
Amost a circle, perfect ellipse
All other numbers zero would eclipse.

Zero plotted and zero planned,
Like the number it was it planned.
Zero's revenge was not denied,
We all know what happens when zero divides:

Zero was smooth, zero was clever,
Zero would be the only number ever:
Inconspicous zero was,
Quick and quiet a plan it was,
A truly evil number it was,
Was zero,
Zero!
Zero!
Zeeeeeerooooooo!

Attend the tale of number oh,
It did what it should have done long ago.
All the others have been multiplied,
They've srunk inside
To zero,
To number oh,
The demon number of Acka.

--
-Henry Towsner

        <[email-masked]>

        Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out
and enjoy it.
                -Logan Pearsall Smith

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Public: commission d'arts
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:55:11 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, K 2 wrote:
> 1. ThinMan's reading of a Scroll of Crumble
>      http://www.ackanomic.org/~k2/moon/crumble.html
> 
> 2. else...if's nota Scaremonger message
>      attached.
> 
> 3. K 2's T240 & 250
>      http://www.ackanomic.org/~k2/treasure/treasure.htm#240
> 
> 4. ThinMan's Canadian paranoia post.
>      attached.
> 
> 
> I shall put together a web page presently....
> 
> K 2
> 
> 
> -----------------------
> Subject: Acka: War
> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:42:26 -0400 (EDT)
> From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> To: [email-masked]
> 
> Ackanomicans,
> 
> 
> Point the first:
> 
> It being the case that Ackanomic is now considering a declaration of war
> on Canada, let us observe that although Canada may attempt to hide
> behind a carefully-crafted veil of innocuosity, it is indeed a powerful
> and insidious force.  Shatner, the Sutherlands, and their ilk are only
> the tip of the iceberg.  If we also consider Doug and Bob McKenzie,
> Bizarre, and the province of Quebec (successionist tendencies are a
> ruse) we begin to get a more realistic view of the scope of the danger.
> 
> 
> Point the second:
> 
> In anticipation, no doubt, of our outrage and militaristic inclinations,
> Canada has prepared itself by raising and maintaining sophisticated
> armed forces and intelligence operations, as well as by recruiting
> allies as represented by their membership in the North Atlantic Treaty
> Organization (NATO).  In consideration of NATO's own militaristic
> tendencies -- even greater, it appears, than our own -- we must proceed
> with utmost caution.
> I, for one, do not care to see my neighbors' houses struck by
> precision-guided munitions.
> 
> 
> Point the third:
> 
> We must take into account the fact that our security has already been
> breached, and Canadian intelligence operatives have infiltrated our
> operations at the highest levels.  Consider the inimitable Alfvaen, who,
> though now retired from Ackanomic, had access to even our most highly
> classified documents during his career of Ackanomic service.  Let it
> not be forgotten that he was and is a Canadian.
> 
> 
> Conclusions:
> 
> The evidence is clear: we are no match for mighty Canada.  Not even with
> two squadrons of Dragons and five divisions of Really Big Blue Things
> could we overcome their and their allies' might.  I offer, therefore, an
> alternative to war -- surrender.  I will shortly be drafting a proposal
> stipulating that surrender, and hope that our citizens will see its
> wisdom.
> 
> 
> ThinMan
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Acka: Nothing to fear but Ackanomic
> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:31:31 -0400 (EDT)
>  
> A message from your Scaremonger, to the tune of "The Ballad of Sweeny
> Todd":
> 
> Attend the tale of number oh.
> We should have abandoned it long ago.
> No other number could survive
> When by zero it was multiplied.
> Although it had nothing to add,
> It's tale is sad:
> The demon number of Acka.
> 
> It tried to reach out to others too:
> Not what a number ought to do.
> Finally it became a third,
> By 3 to 3, a vote absurd,
> >From else,
> >From foolish else,
> The Evil Math Troll of Acka.
> 
> Cut those numbers down, zero,
> Make them all like you!
> If one-third equals zero,
> Two-thirds does too!
> 
> In adding it was just a blank:
> Nothing would grow, but nothing shrank.
> Subtracting too was just the same:
> It had no value to its name
> Its value was infinitesimal,
> 'Twas really null.
> The demon number of Acka.
> 
> Inconspicuous zero was,
> Almost nonexistant it was.
> Amost a circle, perfect ellipse
> All other numbers zero would eclipse.
> 
> Zero plotted and zero planned,
> Like the number it was it planned.
> Zero's revenge was not denied,
> We all know what happens when zero divides:
> 
> Zero was smooth, zero was clever,
> Zero would be the only number ever:
> Inconspicous zero was,
> Quick and quiet a plan it was,
> A truly evil number it was,
> Was zero,
> Zero!
> Zero!
> Zeeeeeerooooooo!
> 
> Attend the tale of number oh,
> It did what it should have done long ago.
> All the others have been multiplied,
> They've srunk inside
> To zero,
> To number oh,
> The demon number of Acka.
> 
> --
> -Henry Towsner
> 
>         <[email-masked]>
> 
>         Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out
> and enjoy it.
>                 -Logan Pearsall Smith
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> 

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From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Public: commission d'arts
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:56:05 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, JT wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, K 2 wrote:
> > 1. ThinMan's reading of a Scroll of Crumble
> >      http://www.ackanomic.org/~k2/moon/crumble.html
> > 
> > 2. else...if's nota Scaremonger message
> >      attached.
> > 
> > 3. K 2's T240 & 250
> >      http://www.ackanomic.org/~k2/treasure/treasure.htm#240
> > 
> > 4. ThinMan's Canadian paranoia post.
> >      attached.
> > 
> > 
> > I shall put together a web page presently....
> > 
> > K 2
> > 
[snip]

My apologies for sending that.. My mail program went bizarro on me.

-JT

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