Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #402
From: [email-masked] (ackanomic digest)
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ackanomic digest      Tuesday, November 10 1998      Volume 03 : Number 402

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:50:21 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe (/dev/joe)

/dev/joe has found Phoebe.

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:52:39 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Potato (K2)

K2 has found the Potato.
Vynd therefore has the Tuba.

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:06:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: name change

I change my name to "the words on the wind"

- --A Mean Hat.

Crazy French Scotsman -- Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:08:36 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: name change

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
>I change my name to "the words on the wind"

I chuckle quietly, watch phoebe turn over in her matchbox, and ack this
change.

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:15:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: ATTN: CALVIN N HOBBES

CALVIN N HOBBES!  THIS IS A MESSAGE TO YOU!

THE SENATE AND PROP 3720 ARE YOUR FRIENDS!

THE DIKTAT IS A BENIGN DIKTAT!

TURN YOUR REBELLIOUSNESS OFF!

LISTEN TO THE WORDS ON THE WIND AND LISTEN WELL TO THEIR WISDOM!

AND TELL ME HOW TO UNSTICK MY CAPS LOck key... ahhh... there it goes...

never mind about that last one.

- --the words on the wind

Crazy French Scotsman -- Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:16:24 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: name change

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, JT wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
>>I change my name to "the words on the wind"
>
>I chuckle quietly, watch phoebe turn over in her matchbox, and ack this
>change.

I then recount and realize that this has 21 characters (I miscounted it
as 20 exactly before and thus ignore this name change)

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:12:54 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: A gift.

I direct that the most holy Church of the book of chorg transfer a sound
thwaping, variation 2 to me.
I give Wild Card a sound thwaping, variation 2.

K 2
R:3SaYO

Jonathan David Amery wrote:

>  I give all my A$ to /dev/joe
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:15:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 679 (r-attila the farce)

r-attila the farce has been selected.

Call for Judgement 689 - November 7, 1998
Subject: JT Hat Win
Initiator: JT (sent 07 Nov 1998, 13:01 Acka)
Judge: r-attila the farce
Judgement:

Statement:
JT achieved a winning condition on 27 Oct 1998 04:06:42 (which is during
the current cycle) through the action of rule 607.

Reasoning:
When Slakko judged UNDECIDED on CFJ 376, I realized that I'd misread the
rule 607.
I then sold two hats (numbered 1 and 12) to the Mad Hatters.
At this point I recieved the title Agent of KAOS, since I had hats
C7, 3, and 8, all of which were TRUE and my score was greater than or
equal to the sum of those three hats.

At this point a few things happened simultaneously and an infinitesimal
amount of time after I recieved the title.
a) I was payed A$40 from the owners of the Eggplants corresponding to
   hats C7, 3, and 8 (Studge, K2 and Gromit)
b) The goose went somewhere else according to rule 620.

An infinitesimal time after a) above, the following events occured in
order, and an infinitesimal amount of time apart.

c) the agenda hats (C7, 3, and 8) were destroyed.
d) I (as the Agent of KAOS) achieved a Winning Condition.

The only issue here is whether or not step b) occured where I have it
above (or at some other point before step d) or if it occured after d).

I contend that the 'event' being referred to in rule 620 is the donation
of the hats to the Mad Hatters.  This triggered the first part of rule 607

and gave me the title.   This event did not give me a winning condition as
well, as that happens due to a further sequence of events, all of which
occur some infinitesmal amount of time after I recieve the title.
Therefore the firing of rule 620 happened immediately upon my recieving
the title and did not wait until after I had achieved the Winning
Condition later in the rule.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:17:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 690 (K 2)

K 2 has been selected.

Call for Judgement 690 - November 7, 1998
Subject: Mungibility of Nontradeability
Initiator: JT (sent 7 Nov 1998, 14:18 Acka)
Judge: K 2
Judgement:

Statement:
JT has three whamiols.

Reasoning:
If the original determination for JT's play of the Arctic Explorer card
was valid, then this CFJ is TRUE.

If the original determination was false, then JT has a Magic Radish that
he did not previously have.

I believe that the first determination was accurate because when the
entities Magic Radish and Rock to Wind a String around, were repealed they
ceased to be tradeable.   I believe they are still entities however.

Rule 500 states that
>Something is an entity if and only if the rules specify that it is, or
>it is defined by the Rules and Ackanomic tradition indicates that it is
>an entity.

They are still entities, because Ackanomic tradition has them as entities.

Rule 500 further states
>An entity may not be created, destroyed, or manipulated except as
>specified by the Rules.

Rule 502 states
>Each entity is either unownable, nontradeable, or tradeable. Tradeable
>entities are either giftable or ackable, and are either protected or
>exportable. Tradeable entities are ackable and protected unless the
>Rules specify otherwise. An entity is nontradeable unless the Rules
>specify otherwise. If an entity is nontradeable or tradeable then it
>is ownable.

I would argue that the entities became non-tradeable by rule 502 when they
ceased to be defined by the rules.   Since this is rule 502 applying the
change of state from tradeability to non-tradeability, I would argue that
rule 500 does not take precedence and block this manipulation of
tradeability since it is happening as defined in the rules.

If this argument is accurate, then the first determination was valid, and
the statement is TRUE.  Otherwise the statement is FALSE.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:34:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : IP vote

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, JT wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
> > > >This may be beyond the time limits, but I vote No onthe IP against Slakko
> > > 
> > > It is indeed beyond the time limits.  The only IP still outstanding is the
> > > one against myself as president.
> > 
> > Just for a laugh:
> > 
> > I vote YES on the IP against JT as President.
> 
> I vote YES on the IP against JT as President.

Since it's the only IP I get to vote on - I vote YES on the IP against JT
as President.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:07:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: SPAM

WTG.
:)
Niccolo Flychuck

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:

> I suggest that SPAM declare a feud on the Senate.
> I approve of this suggestion.
> 
> - -- 
> Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
> http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
> Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
> Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.
> 
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> 

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:52:44 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Acka: Contract

I pay the SHF to create a contract named "Democratic Contract".
This is a public contract, and here is its text:

	No signer of this contract will conspire by memo, message, letter,
	note, or any other means to grant or attribute power over the
	ruleset to any subgroup of the Ackan populace, unless that
	power be checkable by two or fewer voting players.  All signers
	shall be alert and watch for attempts by small groups to assume
	such power; they shall give notice if they observe such.  Furthermore,
        any signer to perceive such an attempt in progress shall take every
	avenue open to him to attempt to confound it.  The Ackanomic
	government must never be a puppet to a small cabal of players.
	It just does not compute.  The President will remain a figurehead.
	The Speaker will have to reckon with us if he wants to see himself
	as more than an obscure figure on the award-distributing stage!
	The Senators must evaluate the situation again if they calculate
	any possibility of hoarding control!!.  We view these and other
	like actions as treasonous!!!  OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD!!!!!

Hrrphh.  Errr... anyway, that's what it says.

ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:59:11 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Acka: no contract

I suggest that the signers of the Democratic Contract destroy it.
As the one and only signer, I approve.  The contract is therefore destroyed.

ThinMan
Amateur Demagogue

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:06:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Contract

I sign the Democratic Contract.

IB
I thought we were an autonomous collective

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:09:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The Infernal *ping*ing

Today is Tuesday, the 10th day of November, and the Machine That Goes
*ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
gone *ping* 3 times.

IB
Unwitting Scholar of *ping*

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:09:20 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Contract

Hopefully, ThinMan will recreate the thing so we can sign it.

You're just fooling yourself.

Wallace

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Matt Miller [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Tuesday, November 10, 1998 9:07 AM
>To:	[email-masked]
>Subject:	Re: Acka: Contract
>
>I sign the Democratic Contract.
>
>IB
>I thought we were an autonomous collective
>
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:26:04 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: K 2 for Spelling Exchequer

#retract 3723
#end

Friggin' pre-release versions....

K 2

[email-masked] wrote:

> Proposal 3723
> Get back Alfvaen. I mean it! Come one step closer and
> K 2
> Due: Tue Nov 17 10:15:37 1998
>
> I'll have to appologise profusly and run away.
>
> This a Modest Proposal.
>
> Create a new rule numbered 599 with the title "Alfvaen's Swansong" and
> the following RATHERPOORLY delmited text.
>
> RATHERPOORLY
> Alfvaen is permitted to submit a single CFJ which alleges e has gained a
> winning condition during the game of Ackanomic. Such a CFJ is a
> Cycle-Win CFJ.
>
> An instant after it ceases to be legal to appeal a Cycle-Win CFJ ,which
> meets the critrea in the previous paragraph this rule shall repeal
> itself.
>
> This rule takes precedence over Rule 600 (Winning Conditions) were it
> conflicts on what consitues a Cycle-Win CFJ.
> RATHERPOORLY

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:26:06 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : IP vote

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
>Since it's the only IP I get to vote on - I vote YES on the IP against JT
>as President.

Unfortunately, by the time this arrived at my door step, this IP had
completed.

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:41:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : IP vote

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, JT wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
> >Since it's the only IP I get to vote on - I vote YES on the IP against JT
> >as President.
> 
> Unfortunately, by the time this arrived at my door step, this IP had
> completed.
> 

Now you're just being mean. :-)

(Was the timestamp before the completion?  I think game customer dictates
that to be more important.)

IB

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:08:54 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: ACKA: REBEL

According to my count the following players have a rebelisness
characteristic of "ON":
Vynd
Idiotboy
Wild Card
ThinMan
eris
The Green Ripper
Alfvaen
rufus
Fortunato
Robin Hood
Calvin n Hobbes

Also according to me the following players are voting:
Alfvaen
A Mean Hat
Calvin N Hobbes
/dev/joe
Wallace
IdiotBoy
JT
K 2
r-attila the farce
Niccolo Flychuck
Gromit
smallpox blanket
eirs
Robin Hood
rufus
Slakko
Studge
The Green Ripper
ThinMan
two-star
Vynd
Wild Card

thus 11/22

one more and we have a revolution, alternatively I could go on Vacation.

K 2

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:33:54 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: acka : IP vote

IB wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, JT wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
>> >Since it's the only IP I get to vote on - I vote YES on the IP against JT
>> >as President.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, by the time this arrived at my door step, this IP had
>> completed.
>> 
>
>Now you're just being mean. :-)
>
>(Was the timestamp before the completion?  I think game customer dictates
>that to be more important.)

In fact, the rules say that the listserver timestamp establishes the
timing of a post.  (There are some addendas, a couple of quid pro quos....)

ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:18:10 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: GAD!  (Round 3)

A somewhat slow Round this time, not surprising considering the many
rebellions, cabals, etc happening right around now.  Reply to this
message with your next play.

Results:

/dev/joe grabbed The Green Ripper's donkey, as TGR was grabbing 404 Not
Found's idle donkey.  Lucky save for The Green Ripper!

IdiotBoy snatched Wild Card's donkey, while e was standing around
admiring it.  Nice play, IdiotBoy!

Gromit and Slakko each tried to grab Aunt Froot's idle donkey.  Tough
luck, people!

Alfvaen, K 2, r-Atilla the Farce, and Robin Hood all covered their
donkeys.  Smart move, smart move!

Everyone else stood around and admired.  Er... well, it wasn't the best
of plays...

Current GAL:

Alfvaen
A Mean Hat. (If that is eir name at this point)
Aunt Froot
/dev/joe
IdiotBoy
K 2
r-Atilla the Farce
Gromit
smallpox blanket
Robert Sevin
Robin Hood
Slakko
Studge
The Green Ripper

Current Scores:

IdiotBoy - 3
r-Atilla the Farce - 2
K 2 - 2
Slakko - 2
/dev/joe - 2
Everyone else - 1

- ------------------
Aaron Keesler
Lotus Notes Administrator
Intranet Administrator
Adtran, Inc.
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"And now... Number one:  The Larch."

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:23:24 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Historian - Vynd

The election for Historian has ended.

Votes: 

Vynd -
IdiotBoy
Vynd & EBS
ThinMan & EBS
Wallace
eirs & EBS
K 2
Slakko

Gromit -
JT
A Mean Hat. & EBS
Gromit

r-Atilla the Farce - 
r-Atilla the Farce

Studge - 
Studge

Wallace

- ------------------
Aaron Keesler
Lotus Notes Administrator
Intranet Administrator
Adtran, Inc.
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"And now... Number one:  The Larch."

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:25:05 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Spelling Exchequer - ThinMan

The election for Spelling Exchequer has ended.

Votes:

ThinMan -
IdiotBoy
JT
ThinMan & EBS
Wallace
Gromit
K 2
Slakko

r-Atilla the Farce -
A Mean Hat & EBS
Studge
r-Atilla the Farce

eirs -
Vynd
eirs & EBS

Wallace

- ------------------
Aaron Keesler
Lotus Notes Administrator
Intranet Administrator
Adtran, Inc.
- ------------------
"And now... Number one:  The Larch."

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:34:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Viva Gorditas

I set my rebelliousness characteristic to "on"

**two-star

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:57:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: ACKA: REBEL

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, K 2 wrote:

> According to my count the following players have a rebelisness
> characteristic of "ON":
> Vynd
> Idiotboy
> Wild Card
> ThinMan
> eris
> The Green Ripper
> Alfvaen
> rufus
> Fortunato
> Robin Hood
> Calvin n Hobbes
> 
> Also according to me the following players are voting:
> Alfvaen
> A Mean Hat
> Calvin N Hobbes
> /dev/joe
> Wallace
> IdiotBoy
> JT
> K 2
> r-attila the farce
> Niccolo Flychuck
> Gromit
> smallpox blanket
> eirs
> Robin Hood
> rufus
> Slakko
> Studge
> The Green Ripper
> ThinMan
> two-star
> Vynd
> Wild Card
> 
> thus 11/22
> 
> one more and we have a revolution, alternatively I could go on Vacation.

Alternatively you could go on Rebellion.
- -- 
Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College
http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator  | 2nd Year PhD(PMa)

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:44:28 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Viva Gorditas

*now* its 11 vooting players (Fortunato is non-voting :/ )

K 2

Alexandre Muniz wrote:

> I set my rebelliousness characteristic to "on"
>
> **two-star

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:44:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Bonus Votes...

 I bury 2 bonus votes with the map below.

 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.
 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.

 I bury 2 bonus votes with the map below.

 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.
 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.

 I bury 2 bonus votes with the map below.

 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.
 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.

 I bury 2 bonus votes with the map below.

 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.
 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.

 I bury 2 bonus votes with the map below.

 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.
 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.

 I bury 2 bonus votes with the map below.

 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.
 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.

 I bury 2 bonus votes with the map below.

 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.
 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.

 I bury 2 bonus votes with the map below.

 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.
 I create a bonus vote paying a penalty of 30 points.

 The map for all the treasures above is the following @@-delimited text:

 @@
 This treasure will be found by a randomyl determined player who voted YES
on proposal 3716
 @@

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:19:17 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Historian - Vynd

Thank you all. Starting sometime next year, I promise to keep up the
demanding (but slow) example of my predecessor.

Vynd

[email-masked]

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, AARON KEESLER wrote:

> The election for Historian has ended.
> 
> Votes: 
> 
> Vynd -
> IdiotBoy
> Vynd & EBS
> ThinMan & EBS
> Wallace
> eirs & EBS
> K 2
> Slakko
> 
> Gromit -
> JT
> A Mean Hat. & EBS
> Gromit
> 
> r-Atilla the Farce - 
> r-Atilla the Farce
> 
> Studge - 
> Studge
> 
> 
> Wallace
> 
> ------------------
> Aaron Keesler
> Lotus Notes Administrator
> Intranet Administrator
> Adtran, Inc.
> ------------------
> "And now... Number one:  The Larch."
> 

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:32:16 -0500 (EST)
From: "Gavin Logan" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: unRebel

I set my rebelliousness to "off". I admonish other Ackans to do the same. I
would like to state for the record that smallpox blanket has no mind control
laser, no sir.

eirs

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:33:10 -0500 (EST)
From: "Gavin Logan" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: unRebel

I set my rebelliousness to "off". I admonish other Ackans to do the same. I
would like to state for the record that smallpox blanket has no mind control
laser, no sir.

eirs

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:06:44 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : IP vote

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Matt Miller wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, JT wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
>> >Since it's the only IP I get to vote on - I vote YES on the IP against JT
>> >as President.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, by the time this arrived at my door step, this IP had
>> completed.
>> 
>
>Now you're just being mean. :-)
>
>(Was the timestamp before the completion?  I think game customer dictates
>that to be more important.)

No.  the timestamp was after the completion.

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:10:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary (treen)

>6)A ring, attached to the gunwale of a ship of the Vikings, for holding
>oars rowed by crew; archaic

I vote for this one because it's incredibly similar to the definition i
wrote and forgot to submit this round

- --A Mean Hat.

Crazy French Scotsman -- Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:18:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary (treen)

At 11:10 PM 11/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>6)A ring, attached to the gunwale of a ship of the Vikings, for holding
>>oars rowed by crew; archaic
>
>I vote for this one because it's incredibly similar to the definition i
>wrote and forgot to submit this round

I too vote for this.

Studge

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:24:39 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary (treen)

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> >6)A ring, attached to the gunwale of a ship of the Vikings, for holding
> >oars rowed by crew; archaic
> 
> I vote for this one because it's incredibly similar to the definition i
> wrote and forgot to submit this round
> 

*If* this is true, I have to ask where the default " " definition is on
two-star's list...

Vynd

[email-masked]

> 
> --A Mean Hat.
> 
> Crazy French Scotsman -- Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
> Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste
> 

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:59:42 -0500 (EST)
From: "404 Not Found" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: I'm back...

I'm back from being away...

  ... I change my status to Voting.

- -- 404 Not Found

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Imperial Emporer and Moderator of the Fantasy Wargame Design Project
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/1047/fw_index.html

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