Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #400
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ackanomic digest       Monday, November 9 1998       Volume 03 : Number 400

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 00:41:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Cleaning Up

I bury The World Chessboard as treasure and reveal no part of the map.

I donate following trinkets to the museum:
Pierogie (Value: A$1) 
Altra the FireCat is all my fault (Value: A$10) 
Weishaupt is all my fault (Value: A$10)

Studge

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 00:51:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Mo Money Mo Problems

I suggest and approve that JAM give all its money (A$2) to Studge.  This
happens.

- --A Mean Hat.

Crazy French Scotsman -- Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 01:10:58 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: A gift.

I give A$172 to /dev/joe.
I give the following trinkets to /dev/joe
   Malenkai's Gold Coin #11, #29-#56 (29 different coins)
   Hubertzzzz
   The Mangled Output of the Machine that Goes *Fn0rd*
   Acme Combo Shovel and Ice Pick
   JT's Purple Razor Boomerang
   The Five Hundred Misplaced Ackapennies

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 01:19:36 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: IP vs Slakko

At 00:00:57 Acka time this IP came do.

The votes were as follows:
YES:
A Mean Hat.
/dev/joe
two-star
K 2
R-Attila the Farce
Vynd
ThinMan
The Green Ripper

NO:
JT
Studge
Wild Card
IdiotBoy
Alfvaen
Fortunato
Rex Mundi
Gromit

This Impeachment Paper was REJECTED since there were less than 1/2 of all
Active Players voting YES on it.

The initiator of the IP, A Mean Hat.  is fined 10 points.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 01:20:55 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: IP vs JT (for Speaker)

This Impeachement Paper came do at 00:01:02.

The votes were as follows:
YES:
two-star
K 2
Wild Card
IdiotBoy
Vynd
Alfvaen
Fortunato
ThinMan
The Green Ripper

NO:
/dev/joe
Studge
R-Attila the Farce
Rex Mundi
Gromit
A Mean Hat.

This IP did not have 1/2 of all active players voting YES, and thus was
rejected.   Alfvaen is fined 10 points as the initiator.

- --JT, Once again Speaker

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 01:22:56 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: IP vs Rex Mundi (now smallbox blanket)

This IP came due at 00:15:15.

The votes were as follows:
YES:
two-star
K 2
R-Attila the Farce
Wild Card
IdiotBoy
Vynd
Alfvaen
Fortunato
ThinMan
The Green Ripper

NO:
JT
/dev/joe
Studge
Gromit
A Mean Hat.

This IP was rejected since 1/2 of all Active Players did not vote YES.
JT loses 10 points as the initiator of this IP.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 01:28:20 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: AWOL player.

Aunt Froot has not replied to the AWOL message I sent 3 days ago.
He is thus placed on vacation with an EDR of 3 days (+14 days grace
period)  He will therefor go on Ice on November 25th at 23:33 Acka Time.

404 Not Found did reply to me stating he wished to remain a player and
that he hoped to be more active soon.

- --JT, Registrar

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 01:39:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: A gift.

I give the following to Dev/Joe

A$40
Altra's Mantle of Power (Value: A$75) 
The Arrow-Straight Path of Deception (Value: A$14) 
Yam #2 (Value: A$1) 
Sponsored by Studge #3 (Value: A$10) 
Malenkai's Gold Coin #12 (Value: A$1) 

R-Attila The Farce
(:|Worker|General Contractor|Daring Adventurer|:)

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 02:08:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Map Shard

I read my Map Shard Otzma Card naming K 2 and treasure 248

- --A Mean Hat.

Crazy French Scotsman -- Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 03:05:48 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe (Studge)

Studge has found Phoebe's Matchbox.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 03:12:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The Flea Speaks

There I was, nearly napping in my room in the Water Tower, when a small
yet extremely aerodynamic object landed in the Tower, having first decided
to painfully glance off the back of my head.

Upon recovering from the intense stabbing pains, I looked around for what
could possibly have hit me.  Imagine my joy when I stumbled across a red
and blue matchbox.  After more than a year of waiting without any wisdom,
here was Phoebe.  I was finally the luckiest of Ackans, even if only for a
brief moment.

I pushed open the matchbox, at which point Phoebe leapt out to survey her
surroundings.  Upon seeing me, she looked slightly puzzled.  "I thought
I'd set this thing for someone else's place.  I've been avoiding you for a
year now."

"Aha!  So reuniting you with your long-lost sister really did leave you
annoyed at me."

"Yes, well, Ursula and I never really got on well.  It was always *ping*
this and *ping* that and never any time for any real wisdom.  That's why I
had to set up my own business and leave the Machine."

"You mean you were in the Machine too?"  This piece of fleahistory had
escaped me before; I was intrigued.

"Well, originally the Machine was more than just *ping*.  Way back in the
days of the Ancients it would *ping*, *plang* and occasionally *hnunga*.
The Ancients had a real use for wisdom, and a Machine that complex could
serve them well.  Now, of course, it merely sits around and *ping*s every
now and then.  In its heyday, Ursula and I had it *ping*ing three times a
minute on special occasions."

"That certainly is a piece of news.  Why haven't you told any of us about
this before, Phoebe?"

"Well, frankly the thought of you guys messing with the Machine had me a
little queasy.  Ursula may be an annoying little sister, but she's still
my sister, and that means I don't want you fiddling with the Machine."

"But we weren't going to." I protested.  "That wasn't your wisdom at all."

"What?  I can't engage in a little small talk from time to time?  Now -
you said you wanted some wisdom."

I lent closer to the nanotech Flea, knowing that the next paragraph would
be the key to the whole visit.

"Ackanomic, as it is every other fortnight, is at a crossroads.  This
time, though, the signs are in place long enough before the choice that
the direction can be changed according to people's wants.  A proposal
threatens to replace the existing system with a game run by Organizational
Diktat.  The Vulcan period threatens to return with a vengeance.
Yet this need not be so.  Rebellion could return the vote to the masses,
allowing all to decide whether a few should rule.  The choice is yours,
and all of Acka's.  If a majority wish the Diktat to be prevented, then
they should rebel, and force a true vote on the issue.  If a majority wish
for the Diktat, then all they need is do nothing."

After this amazing burst of wisdom, Phoebe looked tired.  I carefully
returned her to the matchbox, which I then deposited in a nearby post box.
Hopefully her next recipient will gain as much from her visit as I did.

- -- 
Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College
http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator  | 2nd Year PhD(PMa)

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 03:47:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Lucky she was around to clarify

So there I was, trimming off bits of my home (where the RulesWasps had got
a bit zealous) and what do I find but my mailbox buried underneath what
looks like a failed proposal.  I interestedly note that it is proposal 1420
and wonder what this proposal-from-before-my-time said when I hear a
tapping come from inside the mailbox.

I open it and who do I find but Phoebe.

"Phoebe!" I cry "Why did you say those terrible things about me?"

"What the blazes are you talking about?" she snaps, clearly having no time
for foolish questions.

I try again, "Well, that revolution bit was quite stirring, but am I really
involved in something so evil that it matters to one with your ancient
memory?"

"Of course not," again swiftly, businesslike, "You ARE the revolution we
need, at least so long as I've correctly pegged you as voting against that
puritanical monstrosity."

Phoebe grumbles to herself about Hawthorne references momentarily giving me
time to jump in, "But I thought you said that rebellion was necessary to
throw off the Diktat?  Aren't you contradicting yourself horribly?"

"No, I thought you could put two and two together and I wouldn't have to
deal with the minutia: let me put it this way, do you want psychic fun
squelchers ruling the streets?"

"But they're just trying to pre-empt a takeover!  Its right there in the
proposal log."

She shakes her head sadly, "You have all the facts and none of the sense
needed to understand them.  Which prop came out first?"

"The telepathic gestapo one."

"And did that one prevent any others from working."

"Well yes," I say, not liking the horrible truth being revealed to me.

"And did that one also give the Diktat enormous amounts of money from
Acka's very own treasury?"

"Enough, enough!" I cry, "Spare me this torture!"

"Well, all I can say is that I hope a bunch of idiot anarchists don't throw
a wrench into the Senate, embattled souls that you are, and its ability to
bring sanity back in these perilous times."

And with that Phoebe snaps her fingers and has one of the RulesWasps, one
working on the foundations of a tower, carry her and her nano-driven
matchbox into the sky.

Studge

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:05:39 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe (Calvin N Hobbes)

Calvin N Hobbes has found Phoebe's matchbox.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:16:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : Status change

I change my status to voting!

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:17:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : IP vote

This may be beyond the time limits, but I vote No onthe IP against Slakko

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:21:26 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : IP vote

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
>This may be beyond the time limits, but I vote No onthe IP against Slakko

It is indeed beyond the time limits.  The only IP still outstanding is the
one against myself as president.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 05:31:05 -0500 (EST)
From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : IP vote

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, JT wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
> >This may be beyond the time limits, but I vote No onthe IP against Slakko
> 
> It is indeed beyond the time limits.  The only IP still outstanding is the
> one against myself as president.

Just for a laugh:

I vote YES on the IP against JT as President.

- -- 
Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Clerk of the Court

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 07:58:26 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: GAD!  (Round 2 results)

Ack.  Sorry.  Yours.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Head Apollo [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Friday, November 06, 1998 3:37 PM
>To:	ackanomic
>Subject:	Re: Acka: GAD!  (Round 2 results)
>
>>K 2 grabbed Rex Mundi's donkey, just as Rex Mundi was grabbing eirs'.
>
>
>Mine or K 2's?
>
>eirs
>
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:04:58 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Election for DeeJay

The nomination period has ended for the Office of DeeJay

Nominees:

A Mean Hat.
Wild Card
The Green Ripper
Fortunato
r-Atilla the Farce

Reply to this message with your vote.

Wallace

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:07:28 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Warrior Seat - Gromit

The election for the Warrior Seat on the Grey Council has ended.

A Mean Hat. - 
A Mean Hat. & EBS

Gromit - 
JT
Rex Mundi & EBS

K 2 -
K 2 & EBS

Therefore, Gromit is the newest member of the Grey Council.  Woo!

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:37:44 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Warrior Seat - Gromit

>
> K 2 -
> K 2 & EBS
>

now this would have been particularly hard since I don't own a GBS. I
did, however, attempt to use my GBS.... not that it changes the result
:)

K 2

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:39:28 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: A gift.

Really? Well I give all of my trinkets and Ackadollars except ofr A$1
(which I keep) to the church of the book of chorg.

K 2

Bryan Federico wrote:

> I give the following to Dev/Joe
>
> A$40
> Altra's Mantle of Power (Value: A$75)
> The Arrow-Straight Path of Deception (Value: A$14)
> Yam #2 (Value: A$1)
> Sponsored by Studge #3 (Value: A$10)
> Malenkai's Gold Coin #12 (Value: A$1)
>
> R-Attila The Farce
> (:|Worker|General Contractor|Daring Adventurer|:)
>
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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:01:45 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Warrior Seat - Gromit

Oh, er... yes.

Corrected election results (Gromit still wins):

A Mean Hat. - 
A Mean Hat.

Gromit -
JT
Rex Mundi

K 2 -
K 2 (used GBS)

Wallace

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	K 2 [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Monday, November 09, 1998 7:38 AM
>To:	[email-masked]
>Subject:	Re: Acka: Warrior Seat - Gromit
>
>>
>> K 2 -
>> K 2 & EBS
>>
>
>now this would have been particularly hard since I don't own a GBS. I
>did, however, attempt to use my GBS.... not that it changes the result
>:)
>
>K 2
>

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:34:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ping*!

Today is Monday, the 9th day of November, and the Machine That Goes *ping*
Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has gone
*ping* 2 times.

IB

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:02:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : IP vote

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, JT wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
> > >This may be beyond the time limits, but I vote No onthe IP against Slakko
> > 
> > It is indeed beyond the time limits.  The only IP still outstanding is the
> > one against myself as president.
> 
> Just for a laugh:
> 
> I vote YES on the IP against JT as President.

 I vote YES on the IP against JT as President.

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http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:04:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: A gift.

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Bryan Federico wrote:

> I give the following to Dev/Joe
> 
> A$40
> Altra's Mantle of Power (Value: A$75) 
> The Arrow-Straight Path of Deception (Value: A$14) 
> Yam #2 (Value: A$1) 
> Sponsored by Studge #3 (Value: A$10) 
> Malenkai's Gold Coin #12 (Value: A$1) 
> 
 
 I give all my A$ to /dev/joe

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http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:10:56 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: DeeJay nominations

  A Mean Hat., in his infinite wisdom, has just pointed out something to
me in my post about the DeeJay election.  I don't know how this
Fortunato person managed to get himself nominated, but I for one will
not stand for this horrific mis-manipulation of the Rules.  Having
removed the scoundrel from the lists, I add myself to keep it balanced.

Totally new and different list of nominees:

A Mean Hat.
Wild Card
The Green Ripper
Wallace
r-Atilla the Farce

Wallace

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:14:23 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: A gift.

Wild Card wrote:
>  I give all my A$ to /dev/joe

You can't get rid of your debt that easily, evil card.

   A player in debt still earns A$ from events in the game as if they
   were not in debt. However, they cannot spend any A$ voluntarily until
   their net A$ balance is positive.

In addition, we established the last time this came up that you can't
give negative entities.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 12:41:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: A gift.

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> Wild Card wrote:
> >  I give all my A$ to /dev/joe
> 
> You can't get rid of your debt that easily, evil card.

 D*mn - I was hoping I could get the 14 day rule to kick in.  I prolly
would have with studge if I had't forfot myself...

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http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:28:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Shameless exploitation of something that could have been fixed already...

I convert 20 points into an OC Founder's Boon. This takes my score down
to minus 60 and then back up to twenty. Hopefully.

Gromit.

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Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 14:09:24 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: End of Cycle

At 5:15:15 this morning, Cycle 24 ended.

PLEASE NOTE: K2's gifts and wild card's attempted gift did NOT occur
             before the end of the cycle.

At this time, the following things happened in order.

a) Ackanomic play is suspended

b) All Chartreuse Goose Eggs, Right-Handed Grapefruit and Agenda Hats
   that are not being worn are destroyed. All Nemesis Eggplants with the
   same condition as an Agenda Hat that was destroyed in this manner are
   destroyed.
       I will let the financier and the illuminatus handle this.

c) The winner is given the title of winner of the cycle, and a
   Right-Handed Grapefruit and a Champion's Cloak are created in that
   player's possession. If this results in his having two Champion's
   Cloaks, one of them is instantly transformed into a Badge of Glory.

       /dev/joe is given the title of winner of the cycle and a RHG.
       He is given a champion's cloak.  One of his two champions cloaks
       (the older one my dice tell me :) is transformed into a Badge of
       Glory.

d) All players who have zero or fewer points are given a Chartreuse
   Goose Egg.

e) If the amount of A$s in circulation plus the value of all extant
   Trinkets exceeded the amount in the Treasury at the time this winner
   was declared, the following shall occur:

     i) Excluding the winner, all entities with a Total Wealth greater
        than zero shall transfer 10% of eir Total Wealth to the Treasury.

    ii) All entities with a Total Wealth greater than zero, shall be
        placed on The List in decreasing order of Total Wealth.

   iii) The entity appearing highest on The List, shall transfer 5% of
        eir total wealth to the player lowest on The List and both
        entities shall be removed from The List.
 
    iv) If there are at least two entities and at least one player are
        still on The List step iii is repeated.

       I will let the financier accomplish this task.  Should there be
       a need to break ties to place peope on the list (people have the
       same total wealth or whatever) I will be more than happy to
       generate some random numbers at need.

f) Each Player is awarded A$ equal to his point total.

       The scorekeeper should post the final scores at the end of the
       cycle so that this can be performed.

g) Each player's score is set to zero.

	I will await the scorekeeper performing this duty as well,
        since I know that the scorekeeper page doesn't reflect at least
        points lost to failed impeachement papers.

h) If the cycle currently ending has exceeded 30 days in length, all
   players who have been vacationing for the entire cycle are removed
   from the game as if they have quit.

	The cycle was more than 30 days in length, having started on
        August 24th.  Noone has been vacationing for the entire cycle and
        therefor no players are removed.

i) If the cycle was won by points (i.e. the Winning Condition was due
   to Rule 603), then amend Rule 603 to change the base value of the
   Magic Number to the smallest prime number greater than (the current
   Magic Number*1.2). If the last two cycles were not won by points, then
   amend Rule 603 to change the base value of the Magic Number to the
   smallest prime number greater than (the current Magic Number*0.9).

	Neither this cycle nor 23 was won by points.  Therefore the
        base value for the Magic Number is set to the smallest prime
        greater than 341.1 which is 347.

j) The game cycle number is incremented, and the Magic Number is reset
   to its base value.

        Welcome to cycle 25.  The Magic Number is reset to 347.

k) All players who are in Gaol are released from Gaol. All players who
   are in the Ackanomic Afterlife are relocated to their homes.

	If anyone was in the Afterlife, they go home.  I don't believe
        anyone was in Gaol.

l) If the game state is such that the single winner of the last cycle
   would immediately win again upon the resumption of Ackanomic play, the
   Chartreuse Goose is transferred to that player.

	This is not the case.

m) All events specified by other rules to occur at the end of the
   cycle occur, in the numeric order of the rule that defines the event.

        By rule 540, /dev/joe gains 1 point of 'Order'.
        By rule 550.1, /dev/joe gains 2 honour.
        By rule 607, Studge, Gromit and K2 have their scores set to -40.
        By rule 611, All cheeses are destroyed.
	By rule 670, A Commission d'Arts is called.  It has been more
           than 60 days since the last one.   Senators have 7 days to
           submit a list of four silver moon nominees.

n) Ackanomic play resumes.

The Fat Lady has begun singing and will continue to sing until 1 day from
the time of this message.

- --JT, Speaker.

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 15:27:56 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: IP vs JT (President)

This IP came due today at 14:20:27 Acka time.

The votes were:
YES:
IdiotBoy
Vynd
Alfvaen
The Green Ripper
Slakko
Wild Card

NO:
A Mean Hat.
Gromit
/dev/joe
Studge
Rex Mundi

This IP failed since less than 1/2 of all active players voted YES.

Fortunato is fined 10 points as the author of the IP.

There are no longer any IP's outstanding.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 18:40:12 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: OC usage (damn this is cheep)

I use one of my OC Training Regimes and specief choice 2
I then convert 15 pts into a OC training regime
i then burn 2 OC training Regimes
i then convert 30 pts into 2 OC training regimes
i then burn 1 OC training regimes
i then convert 15 pts into 1 OC training regime

Next i point out that this puts me at -60 and resets my score to 20

I admit that this is a horrible way to abuse someone elses mistake but 
its no worse than all the happy numbers that came up because people 
could ditch points in a hurry
:)
R-Attila The Farce
(:|Worker|General Contractor|Daring Adventurer|:)

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:28:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: SPAM

 I suggest that SPAM declare a feud on the Senate.
 I approve of this suggestion.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:04:40 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Lucky she was around to clarify

I challenge Studge's alleged posting of Phoebe's wisdom on the grounds
that it was clearly not the authentic words of the Steel Flea, but rather
an attempt to shore up a crumbling autocracy with misattributed words.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Godley & Creme:The Last Page of History
Current Book--Tom Wolfe:The Bonfire of The Vanities
Pretend the needle thickens.  --lstewart

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:16:14 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: End of Cycle

> b) All Chartreuse Goose Eggs, Right-Handed Grapefruit and Agenda Hats
>    that are not being worn are destroyed. All Nemesis Eggplants with the
>    same condition as an Agenda Hat that was destroyed in this manner are
>    destroyed.
>        I will let the financier and the illuminatus handle this.

How about the Acting Illuminatus?  I resigned, remember?

> d) All players who have zero or fewer points are given a Chartreuse
>    Goose Egg.

These players were:

AJ, Robert Sevin, The Green Ripper, ThinMan, two-star, IdiotBoy, Robin
Hood, and Calvin N Hobbes.

> f) Each Player is awarded A$ equal to his point total.

>        The scorekeeper should post the final scores at the end of the
>        cycle so that this can be performed.

Ask and ye shall receive:

Score   Ackanomic Name     Status Real Name
- -----   --------------       1234 -------------
401     Slakko                V   (Duncan Richer)
372     Alfvaen               V   (Aaron Humphrey)
286     JT                    V   (JT Traub)
270     /dev/joe              V   (Joseph DeVincentis)
223     Rig R. Mortis        NI   (Bernard El-Hagin)
218     Studge                V   (Tom Mueller)
184     eirs                  V   (Gavin Logan)
184     K 2                   V   (Kelly Kelly)
166     Gromit                V   (Tom Walmsley)
138     rufus                 V   (David Scheidt)
119     smallpox blanket      V   (Gavin Doig)
109     saaremaa             VI   (Randy Hall)
98      A Mean Hat.           V   (Gabriel Drummond-Cole)
97      Wallace               V   (Aaron Keesler)
72      J. M. Bear           VI   (Frank Schmidt)
66      Niccolo Flychuck      V   (Uri Bruck)
64      Aunt Froot           NI   (Micah Smukler)
46      Wild Card             V   (Jonathan David Amery)
42      Vynd                  V   (John McCoy)
39      404 Not Found         N   (Joel Ricker)
32      r-attila the farce    V   (Bryan Federico)
0       AJ                   PI   (AJ Drummond-Cole)
0       Robert Sevin          N   (Mitchell Harding)
- -5      The Green Ripper      V   (Eric Plumb)
- -5      ThinMan               V   (John Bollinger)
- -5      two-star              V   (Alexandre Muniz)
- -10     IdiotBoy              Vg  (Matt Miller)
- -12     Robin Hood            V   (Robert Shaw)
- -37     Calvin N Hobbes       V   (Thierry Joffrain)

> g) Each player's score is set to zero.

> 	I will await the scorekeeper performing this duty as well,
>         since I know that the scorekeeper page doesn't reflect at least
>         points lost to failed impeachement papers.

Actually, setting scores to zero is as easy as switching to a new
pointlog.  :-)  (Also Phoebe points.)

> m) All events specified by other rules to occur at the end of the
>    cycle occur, in the numeric order of the rule that defines the event.

>         By rule 540, /dev/joe gains 1 point of 'Order'.
>         By rule 550.1, /dev/joe gains 2 honour.
>         By rule 607, Studge, Gromit and K2 have their scores set to -40.
>         By rule 611, All cheeses are destroyed.

How can both of these occur?  Rule 607 should only be invoked if the Cycle
is won by Agenda, and Rule 611 only if due to Cheeses.  I thought that the
latter was the case.  Or is it just the fact that you are an Agent of KAOS
but your Cycle Win isn't final yet?

> 	By rule 670, A Commission d'Arts is called.  It has been more
>            than 60 days since the last one.   Senators have 7 days to
>            submit a list of four silver moon nominees.

I would respectfully like to suggest the nomination of the PartyChessPiece
"Nose" description.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Happy Rhodes:Would That I Could
Current Book--Tom Wolfe:The Bonfire of The Vanities
I lost my lucky ball & chain; now she's four years gone.

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:20:03 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Lucky she was around to clarify

> I challenge Studge's alleged posting of Phoebe's wisdom on the grounds
> that it was clearly not the authentic words of the Steel Flea, but rather
> an attempt to shore up a crumbling autocracy with misattributed words.

Sorry, forgot to mention:

I am the Nanotech Overseer for this Hearing, called due to Rule 909,
"Steel Flea".  The responses therein specified are "Phoebe would not say
anything so crass" and "Phoebe said much the same thing to me once".

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Happy Rhodes:Would That I Could
Current Book--Tom Wolfe:The Bonfire of The Vanities
Quoth the Raven, 'Eat my Shorts!'

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:28:08 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: End of Cycle

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:
>> b) All Chartreuse Goose Eggs, Right-Handed Grapefruit and Agenda Hats
>>    that are not being worn are destroyed. All Nemesis Eggplants with the
>>    same condition as an Agenda Hat that was destroyed in this manner are
>>    destroyed.
>>        I will let the financier and the illuminatus handle this.
>
>How about the Acting Illuminatus?  I resigned, remember?

Acting Illuminatus will suffice I believe :)  I had actually forgotten :)

>> m) All events specified by other rules to occur at the end of the
>>    cycle occur, in the numeric order of the rule that defines the event.
>
>>         By rule 540, /dev/joe gains 1 point of 'Order'.
>>         By rule 550.1, /dev/joe gains 2 honour.
>>         By rule 607, Studge, Gromit and K2 have their scores set to -40.
>>         By rule 611, All cheeses are destroyed.
>
>How can both of these occur?  Rule 607 should only be invoked if the Cycle
>is won by Agenda, and Rule 611 only if due to Cheeses.  I thought that the
>latter was the case.  Or is it just the fact that you are an Agent of KAOS
>but your Cycle Win isn't final yet?

My reading of the rule is that I am Agent of KAOS even though my win isn't
yet final that triggers this.

Rule 607 says merely
   Additionally, any player who had owned a Nemesis Eggplant that was
   destroyed as above has eir score reset to -40 rather than 0 when
   scores are reset at the start of the next cycle. [See Rule 666]

Those eggplants were destroyed as above, and this is the start of the
next cycle.  Probably the wording needs to be cleaned up a bit.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:29:01 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Step 1a

I hereby resign as Scorekeeper.

On my web site at http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/acka, the final scores
and pointlog for Cycle 24 are at scores24.html and pointlog.24 respectively;
scores.html and pointlog represent Cycle 25(which promises to be short)so
far.

The posted value of the Happy Number is my best guess, assuming that,
due to my error in not scoring players who voted during quorum failures,
none of the attempts to reach the Happy Number in the last month or
so were successful.  I suppose that if the first player to do so had
actually abstained, it would have worked, but I'm afraid I don't feel
like determining that right now.  Someone CFJ it if they feel like it.

Anyone who takes over as Scorekeeper is welcome to the Perl script I use
to filter Proposals through.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Happy Rhodes:Would That I Could
Current Book--Tom Wolfe:The Bonfire of The Vanities
Be yourself.  Who else would take the job?

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:30:49 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: rebel

I set (if it is not already) my rebellious flag to on.

rufus

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:33:43 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Step 1a

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:
>I hereby resign as Scorekeeper.

I hereby start a nomination for the office of Scorekeeper.

Please reply to me to nominate yourself.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 20:43:54 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: End of Cycle

> > m) All events specified by other rules to occur at the end of the
> >    cycle occur, in the numeric order of the rule that defines the event.
> 
> >         By rule 540, /dev/joe gains 1 point of 'Order'.
> >         By rule 550.1, /dev/joe gains 2 honour.
> >         By rule 607, Studge, Gromit and K2 have their scores set to -40.
> >         By rule 611, All cheeses are destroyed.
> 
> How can both of these occur?  Rule 607 should only be invoked if the Cycle
> is won by Agenda, and Rule 611 only if due to Cheeses.  I thought that the
> latter was the case.  Or is it just the fact that you are an Agent of KAOS
> but your Cycle Win isn't final yet?

R611 says "If ever a voting player owns one of each type of cheese then e 
will achieve a Winning Condition. If anyone wins a Cycle by this method 
then all cheeses are destroyed at the end of that Cycle."

However, R607 says:

   If a voting player owns at least three Agenda Hats, and it is publicly
   knowable that the condition for each Agenda Hat e owns is true, and
   that player's score is greater than or equal to the sum of the weights
   of all of the agenda hats e owns, then the following will occur:

   [various events a through e]

   Additionally, any player who had owned a Nemesis Eggplant that was
   destroyed as above has eir score reset to -40 rather than 0 when
   scores are reset at the start of the next cycle. [See Rule 666]

R607 doesn't wait for the end of a cycle that is the result of the agenda
hat win, just for the end of a cycle after this event occurs.  Also,
it appears that it actually happens at step (g) of R666, rather than
down with the other end-of-cycle stuff in step (m), and due to its number,
it has precedence to do so.

Incidentally, R607's method is probably more appropriate; as it is, R611
causes a player with all the cheeses to continuously achieve winning
conditions until he wins a cycle for having them.  I am going to propose
another overhaul of the Winning Condition rules (whenever we have a
stable government, whether an org-controlled oligarchy or a democracy,
and I have finished writing the thing) which will fix this, and some other
holes, like being able to claim a win on the same winning condition more
than once, and being able to miss out on a winning condition because you
happened to achieve it 5 seconds before a long-past cycle-win finally took
effect, by making winning conditions into a non-tradable entity which is
awarding upon achieving it, attached to the CWCFJ (which will now specify
what kind of win, but require that you have an unclaimed one pending instead
of 'achieved this cycle') upon submission, and then actually award the win
when the CWCFJ TRUE verdict becomes final.

/dev/joe

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