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ackanomic digest      Thursday, November 5 1998      Volume 03 : Number 393

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 00:09:29 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proto-Government determination

On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, JT wrote:
>Here is the timeline after rereading the rules (the gov't changes 1 week
>after the revolution begins, not after I make the determination :)
>
>(Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:34:56 -0500):
>     The Revolution started.
>     The Active Government was set to Anarchy.
>     Everyone's rebelliousness characteristic was sent to 'off'
>        (Wild Card has since set his to 'on'.)
>
>(Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:52:30 -0500):
>     The Proto-Governement is set to Elected Assembly.
>
>(Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:52:30 -0500):
>     Elected Assembly shall become the Active Government.
>     The Revolution shall end.

There was a discussion on IRC today.  The Elected Assembly actually
becomes the government 1 week after the revolution starts, not 1 week
after the determination, therefore Elected Assembly will take effect at
Fri, 06 Nov 1998 01:34:56 -0500, not 11:52 as I said above.

- --JT

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:32:53 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Nomicon

I go to the library and enter *that* room.
I read from *that* book.

I return to my home.

- --JT

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:40:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: NEW Puppet Heads (IB, CnH, Robin Hood, rufus, ThinMan, eirs, Wild Card)

Memo to myself: Do the dum things I gotta do.  Touch the puppethead.

Thinking this is all too easy...
CnH

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:42:02 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Acka: Ackanomicon Determination

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 03:34:13 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Even More Puppet Heads (IB, CnH, Wild Card, ThinMan, two-star, Vynd)

> Proposal 3715
> 
> Votes: 11/20 (7 YES votes): Quorum not met

> Abstain
>   IdiotBoy             (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
>   K 2                  
>   Calvin N Hobbes      (HARF)
>   Vynd                 
>   rufus                (SPAM)
>   ThinMan              (Vulcan)
>   eirs                 (Klingon)
>   Wild Card            (SPAM)
>   two-star             

Those of the above who bothered to touch their puppet heads since
less than 24 hrs ago (IB, CnH, ThinMan, Wild Card, two-star) as
well as Vynd who voted on all the other props, get Still More
Puppet Heads.

/dev/joe
irritated by people who keep touching their puppet heads but don't vote
too late now :-o

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:58:57 -0500 (EST)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: NEW Puppet Heads (IB, CnH, Robin Hood, rufus, ThinMan, eirs, Wild Card)

Writing a Memo to myself about the dumb things I have got to do.  I
stroke touch, fondle, stroke and generally molest the puppet's head.

K 2

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:05:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 684 (TRUE)

r-attila the farce has judged this TRUE.

Call for Judgement 684 - November 1, 1998
Subject: /dev/joe Cheese Cycle Win CFJ
Initiator: /dev/joe (sent Nov 1 1998, 23:46 Acka)
Judge: r-attila the farce (chosen Nov 2 1998, 02:54 Acka)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:
/dev/joe has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.

Reasoning:
/dev/joe acquired all five of the cheeses as specified by Rule 611.

I acquired a brie first, like most other players did, by not having a
CFCJ return a true verdict against me in the last two months.  I did
not lose it by having a CFCJ called against me return a true verdict
nor by losing a duel after the rule was changed to be based on Duels
instead of CFCJs.

I received an edam when I held five offices on April 5, 1998.  These
offices were AckaPhysicist, Justice, Senator, Wizard, and Swinger for Vulcan.

I received a stilton after I had 10 consecutive proposals of mine pass
without having one rejected; those proposals were proposals 2886, 3041,
3042, 3043, 3044, 3068, 3087, 3119, 3176, and 3185.

I received a gouda when I won my 3rd subgame with 5 or more players; those
3 subgames were:
  (The game of YORL which ended in January 1998 did not count because the
   cheese rule was created later.)
  1. The game of Viruses which ended April 25, 1998.
  2. The first game of abstract crescent, which ended May 7, 1998.
  3. The game of Mediocrity which ended on September 11, 1998.

I received a cheddar upon the passage of my 3rd harfy proposal; the 3 harfy
proposals were proposals 3185, 3241, and 3700.  I note that P3700 passed
even in the thread where The Green Ripper is a Voting player and counted in
the head count on P3700, since the 8 players who voted YES is more than
36% of 21.

/dev/joe's Bronze Torch Reasoning:

Gromit wrote:
> Duncan Richer [posted as part of the CFJ reasoning by /dev/joe:]
> > I received an edam when I held five offices on April 5, 1998.  These
> > offices were AckaPhysicist, Justice, Senator, Wizard, and Swinger for
> > Vulcan.
>
> I note that the office of wizard doesn't count here because capital
> offices were specifically exempted from this rule. Whether that effects
> the validity of the win I don't know. I would however recomend that the
> judge ddo more research here.

I note that Gromit is correct, so I actually acquired my edam October
19th,
when I held the offices of AckaPhysicist (though the rule was long ago
repealed, the office was not destroyed, so it hangs around, per CFJ 626),
Justice, Senator, Promoter, and Tabulator, or earlier if I have missed
something.  I note that it isn't clear whether the rule requires that
a player held five offices simultaneously since the last destruction
of an edam or the rule's creation, or merely that e held five offices
at one time or another since the rule started counting, but in either
case I have qualified.

I also note that the financier has, since long ago, harfed me as having an
Edam on the Player/Entity pages, but CFJ 662 says this is irrelevant.

Judge's Reasoning:

I cant see a flaw with Dev/Joes reasoninig

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:33:36 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Nomination for DeeJay

A nomination for the Office of DeeJay has been called.

Reply to this message to nominate yourself.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:37:51 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Acka: Puppethead

Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do.  Touch the puppet head.

ThinMan

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:01:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Puppethead

Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do.  Touch the puppet head.

Calvin "I'll vote tonight" Hobbes

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:11:01 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Even More Puppet Heads (IB, CnH, Wild Card, ThinMan, two-star, Vynd)

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> > Proposal 3715
> > 
> > Votes: 11/20 (7 YES votes): Quorum not met
> 
> > Abstain
> >   IdiotBoy             (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
> >   K 2                  
> >   Calvin N Hobbes      (HARF)
> >   Vynd                 
> >   rufus                (SPAM)
> >   ThinMan              (Vulcan)
> >   eirs                 (Klingon)
> >   Wild Card            (SPAM)
> >   two-star             
> 
> Those of the above who bothered to touch their puppet heads since
> less than 24 hrs ago (IB, CnH, ThinMan, Wild Card, two-star) as
> well as Vynd who voted on all the other props, get Still More
> Puppet Heads.
> 
> /dev/joe
> irritated by people who keep touching their puppet heads but don't vote
> too late now :-o
> 

Oops. Told you that I felt weird about having to say what I did earlier.
I'm trying though :)

Vynd

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:38:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Even More Puppet Heads (IB, CnH, Wild Card, ThinMan, two-star, Vynd)

Memot to myself. Do the dumb things I gotta do: touch the puppethead.

IB
yet another variation.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:23:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Even More Puppet Heads (IB, CnH, Wild Card, ThinMan, two-star, Vynd)

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matt Miller wrote:

> Memo to myself. Do the dumb things I gotta do: touch the puppethead.
> 

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Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:57:37 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 684 (TRUE)

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>Call for Judgement 684 - November 1, 1998
>Subject: /dev/joe Cheese Cycle Win CFJ
>Initiator: /dev/joe (sent Nov 1 1998, 23:46 Acka)
>Judge: r-attila the farce (chosen Nov 2 1998, 02:54 Acka)
>Judgement: TRUE

Assuming no appeal, a cycle will end at
	Sun, 8 Nov 1998 05:05:34 -0500

3 cycles within 3 days is pretty darned impressive.
(2 on friday, 1 on Sunday)

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:30:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 680 (TRUE)

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, JT wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
> >Fortunato has judged this TRUE.
> >
> >Call for Judgement 680 - October 27, 1998
> >Subject: Museum CWCFJ
> >Initiator: JT (sent 27 Oct 1998, 03:42 Acka)
> >1st Judge: The Green Ripper (chosen 27 Oct 1998, 05:40 Acka) (declined)
> >2nd Judge: Fortunato (chosen 01 Nov 1998, 18:29 Acka)
> >Judgement: TRUE
> >
> >Statement:
> >	JT has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.
> 
> Assuming no appeals, the current cycle will end on Fri, 6 Nov 1998
> 14:37 Acka time.

I appeal this verdict.

Sure, JT's going to win a Cycle, but I don't want my win ruined by someone
objecting once the cycle is over, but my 3 days aren't up.  Besides, I
have a nice nitpicky reasoning.

Appellant's Reasoning:

This CFJ was sent by JT less than 1 week after CFJ 676, which had an
identical statement.  It should therefore have been judged INVALID.

I'll get around to selecting a Cortex shortly.
- -- 
Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College
http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:57:52 -0500 (EST)
From: "Head Apollo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: They Might Be Young Marbles

Temo mo dyself: To dhe tumb ihings G dotta to. Touch phe Muppethead.

eirs

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:00:07 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 680 (TRUE)

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>Sure, JT's going to win a Cycle, but I don't want my win ruined by someone
>objecting once the cycle is over, but my 3 days aren't up.  Besides, I
>have a nice nitpicky reasoning.

You know Slakko, I don't believe anyone would have done that.
but since you appealed mine, I'm gonna force you to CFJ yours as well.
since by doing this, you effectively cost me one of my two possible wins
(that being the agenda hat one, which I would have been willing to try had
you not done this)

I object to the scorekeepers announcment that you have achieved the
requisite number of points.

- --JT, willing to tango.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:04:57 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Guess what

Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do. Touch the puppet head.

Vynd

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:06:47 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: NEW Puppet Heads (IB, CnH, Robin Hood, rufus, ThinMan, eirs, Wild C.

 Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do.  Touch the puppethead.
Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do.  Touch the puppethead.
  
Robin Hood

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:07:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I'm Movin' Out!

Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> >I find a nonentity pogo-stick, and use it to bounce over to Gromit's house,
> >where I call for an election for the office of DeeJay.
>
> well, Gromit WAS count tabula... i meant Wallace... Oh well, one claymation
> character is much the same as another... Once again, i request entrance to
> the twits.

If I haven't done already I suggest A Mean Hat. is accepted into the Twits. If
we don't already have one I suggest the twits adopt a quasi-open membership
policy. I also ask anyone who might know ehat the most recent number for a CSR
was? I want to add Wallace and Gromit to the literature list.

Gromit.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:07:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Stuff

With heartfelt appologies to the arts and antiquities community I
destroy the most valuable trinket I own for cash. As an attempt to make
piece for succh wanton destruction I offer any of my other trinkets to
the private collection room of the museum.

I then announce my intent to found an organisation called "We're going
slightly mad".

I then apply for membership in the fine organisation that is "arf wif
eir ead".

Gromit.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:09:41 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ submission

I'm doing this publically, so that there is no chance of the time at which
I submitted the CFJ being called into question.

I submit the following CFJ as delimited by MUSEUM.  Headings are included
for convenience.
MUSEUM
Statement:
        JT has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.

Reasoning:
        On  Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:53:15 -0500 (EST)  JT donated A$2705 to
the museum in the form of 2 of Malenkai's Gold Coins (#27 and #28) and
the trinket 'JT cleaned out his closet and found all of this junk' (value
of A$2703).  Since his Benefactor Value at the time of donation was
A$2296, this brought his total Benefactor Value to over A$5001.  Since
this was the first time that JT had a Benefactor Value greater than
A$5000, e achieved a Winning Condition.
MUSEUM

- --JT

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:22:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Stuff

At 03:07 PM 11/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>With heartfelt appologies to the arts and antiquities community I
>destroy the most valuable trinket I own for cash. As an attempt to make
>piece for succh wanton destruction I offer any of my other trinkets to
>the private collection room of the museum.
>
>I then announce my intent to found an organisation called "We're going
>slightly mad".
>
>I then apply for membership in the fine organisation that is "arf wif
>eir ead".
>
>Gromit.

I approve this + communist single player policy => it happens
- --A Mean Hat.
Crazy French Scotsman --Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

(highly amused by it all)

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:32:39 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Stuff

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:
>With heartfelt appologies to the arts and antiquities community I
>destroy the most valuable trinket I own for cash. As an attempt to make
>piece for succh wanton destruction I offer any of my other trinkets to
>the private collection room of the museum.

I do not believe this occured as it's unclear (without referring to
another document) which trinket that is, and thus the action is ambiguous.

>I then announce my intent to found an organisation called "We're going
>slightly mad".

I offer to join this society.

>I then apply for membership in the fine organisation that is "arf wif
>eir ead".

I accept Gromit into this society if he has notalready been accepted by
another member.

- --JT

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:01:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Stuff

JT wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:
> >With heartfelt appologies to the arts and antiquities community I
> >destroy the most valuable trinket I own for cash. As an attempt to make
> >piece for succh wanton destruction I offer any of my other trinkets to
> >the private collection room of the museum.
>
> I do not believe this occured as it's unclear (without referring to
> another document) which trinket that is, and thus the action is ambiguous.

Sigh. I destroy the trinket Daffy Duck forA$. The offer about the museum still
stands though.

Gromit, blaming JT for the BWG :-).

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:09:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: More Stuff

I play my OC Roulette Wheel on my Evil Ballot Stuffer.

Gromit.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:25:05 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Roulette Wheel

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# Player: Gromit
# Gromit playd a Roulete Wheel OC on an EBS in his possession
# transforming it into the gadget determined below.
# It was determined by the following schedule
#  1    - Scroll of Crumble
#  2    - Really Big Blue Thing
#  3    - Whamiol
#  4    - Automatic Sculpture
#  5    - Evil Ballot Stuffer
#  6    - Spell Book of Chorg
#  7    - Plunky Monkey Wrench
#  8    - Cheez-Whiz
#  9    - Silver Spaceship
# 10    - BWG Laser
# 11    - Butler
# 12    - Pyraic Frobnotzer
# 13    - BWG Laser Shotgun Attachment
# 14    - Good Ballot Stuffer
# 15    - Transtemporal Holographic Image Recording Device
# 16    - Guardian Angel
# 17    - Highlander's Sword

No. of sides on every die:     17
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
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> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:23:06 -0800 (PST)
> From: JT <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Acka: Roulette Wheel
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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 17
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Roulette Wheel
> 
> #C Player: Gromit
> #C Gromit playd a Roulete Wheel OC on an EBS in his possession
> #C transforming it into the gadget determined below.
> #C It was determined by the following schedule
> #C
> #C  1         - Scroll of Crumble
> #C  2 - Really Big Blue Thing
> #C  3 - Whamiol
> #C  4 - Automatic Sculpture
> #C  5 - Evil Ballot Stuffer
> #C  6 - Spell Book of Chorg
> #C  7 - Plunky Monkey Wrench
> #C  8 - Cheez-Whiz
> #C  9 - Silver Spaceship
> #C 10 - BWG Laser
> #C 11 - Butler
> #C 12 - Pyraic Frobnotzer
> #C 13 - BWG Laser Shotgun Attachment
> #C 14 - Good Ballot Stuffer
> #C 15 - Transtemporal Holographic Image Recording Device
> #C 16 - Guardian Angel
> #C 17 - Highlander's Sword
> 
> --JT
> 
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:31:07 -0500 (EST)
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: Stuff

I create a trinket, value 5 A$, named "Stuff n", where n is replaced by the
smallest +ve integer such that that is a unique name, or, if n would be 1,
named "Stuff".

It has description "Stuff is green. It has the strange property of making it
very difficult to sort your acka mail by subject."

I consider applying for membership in "arf wif eir ead", but decide to stay in
bed instead.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:07:05 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Impeachment.

 I announce my intent to remove from the office of the Senate by
impeachment paper the senator /dev/joe who is occupying the post known as
/dev/senate3.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:28:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Peachy.

This message shall serve as an Impeachment Paper.  It is the
unambiguously stated intent of this Impeachment Paper to remove Studge
from the Office of Senator.

You are hereby notified that all Voting Players, with the exception of
Studge, shall be able to cast one vote either YES or NO on the matter of
removing said Officer from Office. The voting period shall be 3 days. All
votes on this matter shall be cast in the public forum.

IB
Keen.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:54:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

At 09:28 PM 11/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>This message shall serve as an Impeachment Paper.  It is the
>unambiguously stated intent of this Impeachment Paper to remove Studge
>from the Office of Senator.
>
>You are hereby notified that all Voting Players, with the exception of
>Studge, shall be able to cast one vote either YES or NO on the matter of
>removing said Officer from Office. The voting period shall be 3 days. All
>votes on this matter shall be cast in the public forum.

Why?  Did you like breadbox so much that my impeachment of him when he
disappeared angered you?

I vote No on /dev/joe's impeachment because I see no need for it, and no
reasons were offered.

I'd do the same for mine if I could :)

Studge

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:00:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Mueller wrote:

> Why?  Did you like breadbox so much that my impeachment of him when he
> disappeared angered you?
> 

Actually, I miss the ole 'box.  Who's the voice of reason around here
nowadays?  Speak up!

I don't like your Otzma Card collection.

IB
I vote YES on the IP against Studge.
I haven't read the IP against /dev/joe.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:08:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Impeachment.

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:

>  I announce my intent to remove from the office of the Senate by
> impeachment paper the senator /dev/joe who is occupying the post known as
> /dev/senate3.

 Just in case it wasn't blatently obvious that that was an impeachment
paper, it was.  And if that won't work for some reason then this is an
Impeachment Paper attempting to impeach /dev/joe from his Senate seat
/dev/senate3.

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Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:09:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matt Miller wrote:

> Actually, I miss the ole 'box.  Who's the voice of reason around here
> nowadays?  Speak up!
> 
> I don't like your Otzma Card collection.
> 
> IB
> I vote YES on the IP against Studge.
> I haven't read the IP against /dev/joe.

 I vote YES on both.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:10:54 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matt Miller wrote:
>I vote YES on the IP against Studge.
>I haven't read the IP against /dev/joe.

I vote NO on the IP against /dev/joe
I vote NO on the IP against Studge.

- --JT

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:18:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, JT wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matt Miller wrote:
> >I vote YES on the IP against Studge.
> >I haven't read the IP against /dev/joe.
> 
> I vote NO on the IP against /dev/joe
> I vote NO on the IP against Studge.
> 

In the spirit of contrarianism:  I vote YES on the IP against /dev/joe.

IB

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:18:59 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

JT wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matt Miller wrote:
> >I vote YES on the IP against Studge.
> >I haven't read the IP against /dev/joe.
> 
> I vote NO on the IP against /dev/joe
> I vote NO on the IP against Studge.

I vote NO on the IP against Studge.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:56:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

At 10:00 PM 11/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Mueller wrote:
>
>> Why?  Did you like breadbox so much that my impeachment of him when he
>> disappeared angered you?
>> 
>
>Actually, I miss the ole 'box.  Who's the voice of reason around here
>nowadays?  Speak up!
>
>I don't like your Otzma Card collection.

Hmmmm... anyone remember A Mean Hat. doing this:

#As a priest of JAM, I suggest and approve that JAM do
#the following:
#
#transfer an otzma card shield and an otzma card fix my
#gadget to /dev/joe 
#transfer 5 otzma card lay off to IdiotBoy
#transfer 1 otzma card lay off and 2 skeleton keys to Gromit
#transfer an otzma card paratroop and an otzma card art 
#thief to r-attila the farce
#
#Because of JAM Church Policy, this happens w/o approval 
#of any other JAM members
#
#Church to the EBS and AVPP members: i suggest you do the
#same... We only have a few days :)

I like your OC collection IB.  Especially since its made out of my points.

:)

>IB
>I vote YES on the IP against Studge.
>I haven't read the IP against /dev/joe.

Studge (Who still doesn't know why he's being impeached)

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 23:11:59 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Mueller wrote:
>#Because of JAM Church Policy, this happens w/o approval 
>#of any other JAM members
>#
>#Church to the EBS and AVPP members: i suggest you do the
>#same... We only have a few days :)

Hrmm.. I believe those got destroyed the other day.. I just forgot to
note it.
Church of Banna had one OC Swinging Sale which was destroyed.
Church to the EBS had one OC Shield which was destroyed.
AVPP had one OC Truthseeker which was destroyed.
AVPP had one OC Skeleton Key which was destroyed.

- --JT

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 23:13:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

I vote NO on the IP against /dev/joe
I vote NO on the IP against Studge.

I'd need some mighty reasons to impeach such mighty senators; haven't seen any.

CnH

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 23:24:57 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Peachy.

On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Thierry Joffrain wrote:

> I vote NO on the IP against /dev/joe
> I vote NO on the IP against Studge.
> 
> I'd need some mighty reasons to impeach such mighty senators; haven't seen any.
> 
> CnH
> 

Well, as I see it, they and a few others have engineered a situation where
they will be able to take "dictatorial" control over the game in a few
hours. Unless we impeach them. hrm...

I vote YES on the IPs against /dev/joe and Studge.

Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 23:48:57 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: AWOL (Aunt Froot, 404 Not Found)

/dev/joe has notified me that the above two players have gone AWOL
according to rule 257.

I have sent them both their AWOL notification.
They have 3 days to reply or they will be placed on Vacation.

- --JT

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