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ackanomic digest       Monday, November 2 1998       Volume 03 : Number 388

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 01:54:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: GAD! (Round 1 results)

I grab RexMundi's Donkey

R-Attila The Farce
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 02:15:30 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Elder Nomination, Breadbox

I support Breadbox's entrance t the hall of the elders

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 02:31:27 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: treasure

>Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:03:33 -0500 (EST)
>To: [email-masked]
>From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
>Subject: Re: Acka: treasure
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>
>I am revealing further fragments of the quotes for "Clocks that Bicker 
on
>Marble Ships"
>
>Alfvaen is drama critic.
>
>
>#1 
>Knowing my body well, as I do, I know precisely when to administer the
>antidote (AJ, Leather Artifact, Studge ineligible)
>
>#2 
>-You been up there along time
>-I gave him morphine.  He must be out of his mind.  He says such awful
>things to me.

Is number 2 "Naked Lunch" (just in case it was ever made into a play)

>#3 
>The thing is, I'm desperate.  You see, I'm wearing that horse's head
>myself.  That's the feeling.
>
>
>--A Mean Hat.
>Crazy French Scotsman --Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
>Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste
>
>--"They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar" [Bob Dylan]
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 02:40:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: treasure

r-attila's guess is wrong

Alfvaen is STILL drama critic

#1

Knowing my body well, as I do, I know exactly when to administer the
antidote.  In precisely three qwertioup scoobie doozle tut (AJ, Leather
Artifact, Studge ineligible)  and this is paraphrased probably a very little

#2

- -You been up there along time
- -I gave him morphine.  He must be out of his mind.  He says such awful
things to me.  He says I want him to die.
- -You sure you don't?
- -I don't want no one to die.

#3 
The thing is, I'm desperate.  You see, I'm wearing that horse's head
myself.  That's the feeling.  All reined up in old language and old
assumptions, straining to jump clean-hoofe on to a whole new track

(this one should be more obvious than the other 2.  at least it seems so to
me.)

- --A Mean Hat.
Crazy French Scotsman --Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

- --"They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar" [Bob Dylan]

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 02:54:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 684 (r-attila the farce)

r-attila the farce has been selected.

Call for Judgement 684 - November 1, 1998
Subject: /dev/joe Cheese Cycle Win CFJ
Initiator: /dev/joe (sent Nov 1 1998, 23:46 Acka)
Judge: r-attila the farce
Judgement:

Statement:
/dev/joe has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.

Reasoning:
/dev/joe acquired all five of the cheeses as specified by Rule 611.

I acquired a brie first, like most other players did, by not having a
CFCJ return a true verdict against me in the last two months.  I did
not lose it by having a CFCJ called against me return a true verdict
nor by losing a duel after the rule was changed to be based on Duels
instead of CFCJs.

I received an edam when I held five offices on April 5, 1998.  These
offices were AckaPhysicist, Justice, Senator, Wizard, and Swinger for Vulcan.

I received a stilton after I had 10 consecutive proposals of mine pass
without having one rejected; those proposals were proposals 2886, 3041,
3042, 3043, 3044, 3068, 3087, 3119, 3176, and 3185.

I received a gouda when I won my 3rd subgame with 5 or more players; those
3 subgames were:
  (The game of YORL which ended in January 1998 did not count because the
   cheese rule was created later.)
  1. The game of Viruses which ended April 25, 1998.
  2. The first game of abstract crescent, which ended May 7, 1998.
  3. The game of Mediocrity which ended on September 11, 1998.

I received a cheddar upon the passage of my 3rd harfy proposal; the 3 harfy
proposals were proposals 3185, 3241, and 3700.  I note that P3700 passed
even in the thread where The Green Ripper is a Voting player and counted in
the head count on P3700, since the 8 players who voted YES is more than
36% of 21.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 02:56:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:phoebe

As I walk along the perfectly flat nearly unending sidewalk of Acka I 
suddenly realize that there is something under my foot besides the 
perfect smoothness of the ackan sidewalk. I lift my foot up and see 
nothing. "oh well" I think and continue on, but not 1 step more and it 
occurs again. Again I lift my foot up and see nothing underneath. But 
then I see a small matchbox affixed to the bottom of my shoe.  "My God, 
I've smashed Phoebe" I cry.  "not quite" comes the metallic voice from  
my nose, "You just mashed my matchbox a little" the voice intones again.  
"Oh Phoebe there you are" I bluntly state.  "In retribution for 
squishing my matchbox I will conclude our conversation", said Phoebe in 
finality. Then poof She was gone...

R-Attila The Farce
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 03:09:27 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe (Slakko)

Slakko has found Phoebe's matchbox.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 03:15:47 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: And another stripe

With the passing of P3700, /dev/joe reached a BCR of 120.  I hereby award
him a Silver Stripe to go with the 2 Gold Stripes and 1 Silver Stripe he
already has.

Congratulations /dev/joe.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 04:09:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Phoebe (Slakko)

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, JT wrote:

> Slakko has found Phoebe's matchbox.

<This is not a Wisdom>

And, 373 days later, he finally found the Flea.

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http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator  | 2nd Year PhD(PMa)

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:44:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe

Ye gods, slakko... she mustve had a reason, eh?

- --A Mean Hat.
Crazy French Scotsman --Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

- --"They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar" [Bob Dylan]

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:10:10 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Iced Breadbox (Fortunato, K 2, JT, Alfvaen, /dev/joe)

At this time, I announce the start of the Nomination period for the
following Political Offices:

Historian
Spelling Exchequer

Please reply to this message to nominate yourself.  Also, please specify
the Office you are running for (I don't want to be any more confused
than I already am :)

Fortunato

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	JT [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Sunday, November 01, 1998 3:53 AM
>To:	[email-masked]
>Subject:	Acka: Iced Breadbox (Fortunato, K 2, JT, Alfvaen, /dev/joe)
>
>Breadbox has gone On-Ice.
>
><snip>
>
>Historian is an optional political office.  I insist that an election for
>this office be held (cue Fortunato).
>
>Spelling Exchequer is an optional political office.  I insist that an
>election for this office be held (cue Fortunato).
>
>
>--JT, Registar
>
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:10:24 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Elder Nomination, Breadbox

I support this whole-heartedly.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	JT [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Sunday, November 01, 1998 3:54 AM
>To:	[email-masked]
>Subject:	Acka: Elder Nomination, Breadbox
>
>I nominate breadbox for Enshrinment into the Hall of Elders.
>I support this nomination.
>
>The confirmation period will last for 3 days from this message.
>I will track the info and release the results at the end of that time.
>
>--JT, Speaker
>
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:23:47 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CRD Hearing

The CRD Hearing is complete.

Yes, I really mean it this time.  It's complete, ok?  Yes, I know I
screwed up the first time, and everyone is all pissed off at me, but
this time it is really, really complete.  And correct.  I didn't lose
anyone's vote, I didn't misinterpret anyone's vote, I didn't mistype
anything, everything is correct and complete!

"This will patch the crisis."
IdiotBoy
JT & EBS & EBS
/dev/joe
Vynd
Gromit

"The President is scamming us."
K 2
Slakko & EBS
A Mean Hat.
The Green Ripper
Alfvaen
Wild Card & EBS

"The President is scamming us."

Fortunato, Count Tabula

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:25:45 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ping*

Due to unavoidably being away from my e-mail yesterday, I have the
following to say:

Today is Sunday, November 1st, and The Machine That Goes *ping* has gone
*ping* today.  Since I have been Scholar, the Machine has gone *ping* 4
times.

Today is Monday, November 2nd, and The Machine That Goes *ping* has gone
*ping* today.  Since I have been Scholar, the Machine has gone *ping* 5
times.

Fortunato, somewhat behind Scholar of *ping*

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:32:49 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: GAD

One addition to last Round's plays:

ThinMan took his donkey and went home.  He will be missed.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:08:58 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: Elder Nomination, Breadbox

JT wrote:
>I nominate breadbox for Enshrinment into the Hall of Elders.
>I support this nomination.

I support this nomination.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:13:00 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: treasure

>r-attila's guess is wrong
>
>Alfvaen is STILL drama critic

>#1

>Knowing my body well, as I do, I know exactly when to administer the
>antidote.  In precisely three qwertioup scoobie doozle tut (AJ, Leather
>Artifact, Studge ineligible)  and this is paraphrased probably a very little

Ooh, this sounds so familiar...

>#2

>-You been up there along time
>-I gave him morphine.  He must be out of his mind.  He says such awful
>things to me.  He says I want him to die.
>-You sure you don't?
>-I don't want no one to die.

>#3 
>The thing is, I'm desperate.  You see, I'm wearing that horse's head
>myself.  That's the feeling.  All reined up in old language and old
>assumptions, straining to jump clean-hoofe on to a whole new track

>(this one should be more obvious than the other 2.  at least it seems so to
>me.)

Well, as a wild guess I'll say "Equus" by Peter Schaffer then(if it's so
obvious...)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page:http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/)
Song In My Head--REM:Strange Currencies
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The March Hare Network
You never told me about the fishsticks in your ears.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:34:31 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, AARON KEESLER wrote:

> The CRD Hearing is complete.
> 
> Yes, I really mean it this time.  It's complete, ok?  Yes, I know I
> screwed up the first time, and everyone is all pissed off at me, but
> this time it is really, really complete.  And correct.  I didn't lose
> anyone's vote, I didn't misinterpret anyone's vote, I didn't mistype
> anything, everything is correct and complete!
> 

What makes you so sure? :)

Vynd

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:37:59 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing

> "This will patch the crisis."
> IdiotBoy
> JT & EBS & EBS
> /dev/joe
> Vynd
> Gromit
> 
> "The President is scamming us."
> K 2
> Slakko & EBS
> A Mean Hat.
> The Green Ripper
> Alfvaen
> Wild Card & EBS

K2, Slakko, A Mean Hat., The Green Ripper, Alfvaen, and Wild Card, just
what was it in that CRD that the president was scamming us with?

Also, can The Green Ripper vote in hearings while being Non-Voting?  I don't
think so, and this would put the result of the hearing at a 5-player-plus-
2-EBS tie.  R360 says "Non-voting players may not vote in hearings, unless
a rule says otherwise for a specific type of hearing." and I don't see
that R362 says anything special.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:42:54 -0500 (EST)
From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> > "This will patch the crisis."
> > IdiotBoy
> > JT & EBS & EBS
> > /dev/joe
> > Vynd
> > Gromit
> > 
> > "The President is scamming us."
> > K 2
> > Slakko & EBS
> > A Mean Hat.
> > The Green Ripper
> > Alfvaen
> > Wild Card & EBS
> 
> K2, Slakko, A Mean Hat., The Green Ripper, Alfvaen, and Wild Card, just
> what was it in that CRD that the president was scamming us with?

This was something eminently proposable.  There was nothing that needed an
especially fast ramming through the legislature, or the special powers
that come with a CRD.  

Sure, now we can't make proposals until the revolution is complete, but 
remember that JT pushed us into the revolution with his switch of
Rebeliousness.  If he wanted to fix this by proposal, he could have.

- -- 
Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Clerk of the Court

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:43:17 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: CRD Hearing

Judging by what /dev/joe just wrote, nothing.  *sigh*

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	John Frederic Mc Coy [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Monday, November 02, 1998 8:35 AM
>To:	[email-masked]'
>Subject:	Re: Acka: CRD Hearing
>
>
>
>On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, AARON KEESLER wrote:
>
>> The CRD Hearing is complete.
>> 
>> Yes, I really mean it this time.  It's complete, ok?  Yes, I know I
>> screwed up the first time, and everyone is all pissed off at me, but
>> this time it is really, really complete.  And correct.  I didn't lose
>> anyone's vote, I didn't misinterpret anyone's vote, I didn't mistype
>> anything, everything is correct and complete!
>> 
>
>What makes you so sure? :)
>
>Vynd
>
>[email-masked]
>

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:56:44 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: CRD Hearing

The CRD Hearing is incomplete and reported incorrectly.

Yes, I know what I said last time.  It's wrong, ok?  Yes, I know I
screwed up the first time, and the second time, and everyone is really,
really all pissed off at me, but this time it is really wrong and
incomplete.  And incorrect.  I probably lost votes, misinterpreted
votes, and mistyped things.  Everything is incorrect and incomplete!

I give A$25 to the Twits.

The REAL (until someone else corrects me) voting results:

"This will patch the crisis."
IdiotBoy
JT & EBS & EBS
/dev/joe
Vynd
Gromit

"The President is scamming us."
K 2
Slakko & EBS
A Mean Hat.
Alfvaen
Wild Card & EBS

This is, as /dev/joe said, a tie.  Removing the non-player entities
still makes it a tie.  Therefore, I'll do this by a random
determination, as soon as I remember all the things to tell the dice
admin.  Give me about 5 minutes.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	AARON KEESLER 
>Sent:	Monday, November 02, 1998 7:24 AM
>To:	[email-masked]'
>Subject:	Acka: CRD Hearing
>
>The CRD Hearing is complete.
>
><blah blah blah>
>
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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:08:47 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Acka: CRD Hearing Determination

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:11:38 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Phoebe (Slakko)

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, JT wrote:
>
>> Slakko has found Phoebe's matchbox.
>
><This is not a Wisdom>
>
>And, 373 days later, he finally found the Flea.

All I can say Slakko is that my dice are random :)  Glad you finally got
the bug though :)

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:16:21 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:
>This was something eminently proposable.  There was nothing that needed an
>especially fast ramming through the legislature, or the special powers
>that come with a CRD.  
>
>Sure, now we can't make proposals until the revolution is complete, but 
>remember that JT pushed us into the revolution with his switch of
>Rebeliousness.  If he wanted to fix this by proposal, he could have.

Excuse me slakko, but you are FULL of it.  I was in rebelliousness since
the first day after governments were enacted as a political statement.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:20:46 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing Determination

 On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Dice server wrote:
>Dice rolls requested by: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
>Rolls also sent to:
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>
># This is to determine the results of the CRD Hearing
># 1 - "This will patch the crisis"
># 2 - "The President is scamming us"
>
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It's nice to be vindicated even if it's just because of a random dice
roll.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:26:45 -0500 (EST)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Poet Laureate

I humbly request of the Poet Laureate an ode to the now On-Ice (and
sorely missed) breadbox, who was once Poet Laureate as well.

If the Poet Laureate accepts this request, e can contact me regarding
foolish things like payment and deadlines.

Fortunato

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:38:34 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Quorum Failure (IB, K2, CnH, **, ThinMan, Robin Hood, rufus, Studge, Wild Card)

P3701 did not actually fail quorum, it was retracted and somehow I forgot to
tell the bot.

P3703 did fail quorum though, and the following abstainers each get a
puppet head.  Get out and vote, people!

> Abstain
>   IdiotBoy             (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
>   K 2                  
>   Calvin N Hobbes      (HARF)
>   Robin Hood           (Anti-Voting Preservationist Party)
>   rufus                (SPAM)
>   Studge               (Giant Objectionable Potato)
>   ThinMan              (Vulcan)
>   Wild Card            (SPAM)
>   two-star             

- -- 
/dev/joe
Tabulator

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:43:40 -0500 (EST)
From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, JT wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:
> >This was something eminently proposable.  There was nothing that needed an
> >especially fast ramming through the legislature, or the special powers
> >that come with a CRD.  
> >
> >Sure, now we can't make proposals until the revolution is complete, but 
> >remember that JT pushed us into the revolution with his switch of
> >Rebeliousness.  If he wanted to fix this by proposal, he could have.
> 
> Excuse me slakko, but you are FULL of it.  I was in rebelliousness since
> the first day after governments were enacted as a political statement.

Sorry.  I thought someone changed theirs immediately causing the
rebellion.  Who was it?

- -- 
Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Clerk of the Court

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:04:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: treasure

At 09:13 AM 11/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>r-attila's guess is wrong
>>
>>Alfvaen is STILL drama critic
>
>
<guess snipped>

Being drama critic makes you ineligible to guess.  So I'm not answering
that guess.

- --A Mean Hat.
Crazy French Scotsman --Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

- --"They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar" [Bob Dylan]

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:07:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing

>> K2, Slakko, A Mean Hat., The Green Ripper, Alfvaen, and Wild Card, just
>> what was it in that CRD that the president was scamming us with?
>
>This was something eminently proposable.  There was nothing that needed an
>especially fast ramming through the legislature, or the special powers
>that come with a CRD.  

I completely agree here with Slakko

>Sure, now we can't make proposals until the revolution is complete, but 
>remember that JT pushed us into the revolution with his switch of
>Rebeliousness.  If he wanted to fix this by proposal, he could have.

I completely *disagree* here.  It was MY switch that pushed us into
revolution.  JT had had his rebeliousness "on" for a long time (I think he
was the FIRST, actually)

If you're gonna blame someone, blame me.  

- --A Mean Hat.
Crazy French Scotsman --Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

- --"They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar" [Bob Dylan]

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:13:39 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:
>> Excuse me slakko, but you are FULL of it.  I was in rebelliousness since
>> the first day after governments were enacted as a political statement.
>
>Sorry.  I thought someone changed theirs immediately causing the
>rebellion.  Who was it?

That would be A Mean Hat.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:26:22 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD Hearing

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, JT wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:
> > >This was something eminently proposable.  There was nothing that needed an
> > >especially fast ramming through the legislature, or the special powers
> > >that come with a CRD.  
> > >
> > >Sure, now we can't make proposals until the revolution is complete, but 
> > >remember that JT pushed us into the revolution with his switch of
> > >Rebeliousness.  If he wanted to fix this by proposal, he could have.
> > 
> > Excuse me slakko, but you are FULL of it.  I was in rebelliousness since
> > the first day after governments were enacted as a political statement.
> 
> Sorry.  I thought someone changed theirs immediately causing the
> rebellion.  Who was it?

Well, several people did so after the Otzma Card thing, including myself.
I believe that A Mean Hat. pushed us over the top.

Vynd

[email-masked]

> 
> -- 
> Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
> Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
> Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Clerk of the Court
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:39:00 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: treasure

A Mean Hat. wrote:
> Being drama critic makes you ineligible to guess.  So I'm not answering
> that guess.

I'll capitalize on Alfvaen's mistake by guessing "Equus" by Peter Schaffer
on the 3rd quote:

>#3 
>The thing is, I'm desperate.  You see, I'm wearing that horse's head
>myself.  That's the feeling.  All reined up in old language and old
>assumptions, straining to jump clean-hoofe on to a whole new track

- -- 
/dev/joe
Way outmatched in this one since he hasn't even tried web-searching and
isn't familiar with a single thing Mean Hat has posted.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:58:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 684 (r-attila the farce)

Duncan Richer wrote:

> I received an edam when I held five offices on April 5, 1998.  These
> offices were AckaPhysicist, Justice, Senator, Wizard, and Swinger for Vulcan.

I note that the office of wizard doesn't count here because capital offices were
specifically exempted from this rule. Whether that effects the validity of the
win I don't know. I would however recomend that the judge ddo more research here.

Gromit.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:58:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Justiciary

> I request entrance into the twits.

I suggest we accept A Mean Hat. into the Twits.

Gromit, twit.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:58:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: ASS

If I am not already there I go to the library. Having got back from my
first day at school after a week off I play Manic Monday by The Bangles
on the ASS.

Gromit.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:03:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Quorum Failure (IB, K2, CnH, **, ThinMan, Robin Hood, rufus, Studge, Wild Card)

Memo to Myself: Do the Dumb Things I gotta do.  Touch the PuppetHead..

IB

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:23:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Quorum Failure (IB, K2, CnH, **, ThinMan, Robin Hood, rufus, Studge, Wild Card)

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Matt Miller wrote:

> Memo to Myself: Do the Dumb Things I gotta do.  Touch the PuppetHead..

Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing Silly Agenda Hats.    \'#######

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:36:00 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 684 (r-attila the farce)

I add the following EDAM-delimited reasoning to CFJ 684 with my bronze torch:

EDAM
Gromit wrote:
> Duncan Richer [posted as part of the CFJ reasoning by /dev/joe:]
> > I received an edam when I held five offices on April 5, 1998.  These
> > offices were AckaPhysicist, Justice, Senator, Wizard, and Swinger for
> > Vulcan.
> 
> I note that the office of wizard doesn't count here because capital
> offices were specifically exempted from this rule. Whether that effects
> the validity of the win I don't know. I would however recomend that the
> judge ddo more research here.

I note that Gromit is correct, so I actually acquired my edam October 19th,
when I held the offices of AckaPhysicist (though the rule was long ago
repealed, the office was not destroyed, so it hangs around, per CFJ 626),
Justice, Senator, Promoter, and Tabulator, or earlier if I have missed
something.  I note that it isn't clear whether the rule requires that
a player held five offices simultaneously since the last destruction
of an edam or the rule's creation, or merely that e held five offices
at one time or another since the rule started counting, but in either
case I have qualified.

I also note that the financier has, since long ago, harfed me as having an
Edam on the Player/Entity pages, but CFJ 662 says this is irrelevant.
EDAM

K2, when did you harf me receiving an Edam?  The entity log only shows
stuff back to the beginning of October.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:37:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 680 (TRUE)

Fortunato has judged this TRUE.

Call for Judgement 680 - October 27, 1998
Subject: Museum CWCFJ
Initiator: JT (sent 27 Oct 1998, 03:42 Acka)
1st Judge: The Green Ripper (chosen 27 Oct 1998, 05:40 Acka) (declined)
2nd Judge: Fortunato (chosen 01 Nov 1998, 18:29 Acka)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:
	JT has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.

Reasoning:
	On  Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:53:15 -0500 (EST)  JT donated A$2705 to
the museum in the form of 2 of Malenkai's Gold Coins (#27 and #28) and
the trinket 'JT cleaned out his closet and found all of this junk' (value
of A$2703).  Since his Benefactor Value at the time of donation was
A$2296, this brought his total Benefactor Value to A$5001.  Since this was
the first time that JT had a Benefactor Value greater than A$5000, e
achieved a Winning Condition.

Judge's Reasoning:
Given that K 2 has confirmed that JT's BV is over 5000, I judge this to
be TRUE.

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:45:30 -0500 (EST)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 680 (TRUE)

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>Fortunato has judged this TRUE.
>
>Call for Judgement 680 - October 27, 1998
>Subject: Museum CWCFJ
>Initiator: JT (sent 27 Oct 1998, 03:42 Acka)
>1st Judge: The Green Ripper (chosen 27 Oct 1998, 05:40 Acka) (declined)
>2nd Judge: Fortunato (chosen 01 Nov 1998, 18:29 Acka)
>Judgement: TRUE
>
>Statement:
>	JT has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.

Assuming no appeals, the current cycle will end on Fri, 6 Nov 1998
14:37 Acka time.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:43:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 684 (r-attila the farce)

At 12:58 PM 11/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>Duncan Richer wrote:
>
>
>> I received an edam when I held five offices on April 5, 1998.  These
>> offices were AckaPhysicist, Justice, Senator, Wizard, and Swinger for
Vulcan.
>

Justice, Senator, Swinger, Tabulator, Promoter...  Even if you dont want to
count AckaPhysicist, e would have one now.

- --A Mean Hat.
Crazy French Scotsman --Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master  --  Really
Weird --  Rule-Harfer -- Warrior Caste

- --"They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar" [Bob Dylan]

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:29:15 -0500 (EST)
From: "Head Apollo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Poet Laureate

>I humbly request of the Poet Laureate an ode to the now On-Ice (and
>sorely missed) breadbox, who was once Poet Laureate as well.
>
>If the Poet Laureate accepts this request, e can contact me regarding
>foolish things like payment and deadlines.
>
>Fortunato

Right. I saw this coming. I have to say I would be only too happy to do
this, unfortunately, I joined the game around the first time breadbox went
AWOL and I am therefore not personally aquainted with his exploits. I'm
still willing to consider it though if some people would like to point me
towards evidence of his mighty deeds. I know he was tabulator and promoter
and basically the backbone of the game for a while, and I'm sure I could do
a quick search through the rules to see which pieces of harf were authored
by him, but I'd appreciate any help from people who knew him slightly
better.

eirs

Poet Laureate

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Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:22:25 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Poet Laureate

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Head Apollo wrote:

> >I humbly request of the Poet Laureate an ode to the now On-Ice (and
> >sorely missed) breadbox, who was once Poet Laureate as well.
> >
> >If the Poet Laureate accepts this request, e can contact me regarding
> >foolish things like payment and deadlines.
> >
> >Fortunato
> 
> Right. I saw this coming. I have to say I would be only too happy to do
> this, unfortunately, I joined the game around the first time breadbox went
> AWOL and I am therefore not personally aquainted with his exploits. I'm
> still willing to consider it though if some people would like to point me
> towards evidence of his mighty deeds. I know he was tabulator and promoter
> and basically the backbone of the game for a while, and I'm sure I could do
> a quick search through the rules to see which pieces of harf were authored
> by him, but I'd appreciate any help from people who knew him slightly
> better.
> 
> eirs
> 
> Poet Laureate
> 
> 
> 

breadbox also had a distinguished career in the Supreme Court, if that
helps.

Vynd

[email-masked]

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