Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #370
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ackanomic digest       Friday, October 23 1998       Volume 03 : Number 370

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:53:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Rotation-rama

As a priest of JAM I use my priestly powers to give Studge the Otzma Card:
Felicous Populi as an org action.

Studge

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:29:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Otzma

I use my Otzma Card Felicitous Populi, naming:

i) The event that an Otzma Card Art Thief fails to steal the named item,
requiring a random determination between the player who played it being
caught stealing and stealing another item by mistake.

ii) The desired outcome of stealing another item by mistake.

iii) The amount of A$300 which I am betting.

/dev/joe

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:33:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: art thief

I play my art thief otzma card and name the trinket "Viva La Diva."  I go
and look up the rules about otzma cards and find that this has a chance of
failure of...100%...DOH!

- --A Mean Hat.
  Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master - Warrior Caste - Crazy French
Scotsman - Really Weird

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:38:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Art Thief Determination

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# Player: A Mean Hat
# A Mean Hat attempted to steal Viva La Diva (value A$1001)
# Success is 0 %
#  0 -   0 The theft worked
#  1 - 100 The theft failed

No. of sides on every die:    100
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

     42

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> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:38:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: JT <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Acka: Art Thief
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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 100
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Art Thief Determination
> 
> #C Player: A Mean Hat
> #C A Mean Hat attempted to steal Viva La Diva (value A$1001)
> #C Success is 0 %
> #C 
> #C  0 -   0 The theft worked
> #C  1 - 100 The theft failed
> 
> --JT
> 
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> [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:41:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Art Thief Determination (getting caught)

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# Player: A Mean Hat
# A Mean Hat attempted to steal Viva La Diva
# He is either caught or steals something else
# A felicitious Populi has been played with a B of 300
# The D is 2.
# B*D/200 = 3
# Odds are modified by 3 in both numerator and denominator
# Odds of stealing something else are 3/4
#  1 -   1 The thief is caught
#  2 -   4 The thief steals something else

No. of sides on every die:      4
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

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> From: JT <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Acka: Art Thief 2
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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 4
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Art Thief Determination (getting caught)
> 
> #C Player: A Mean Hat
> #C A Mean Hat attempted to steal Viva La Diva
> #C He is either caught or steals something else
> #C A felicitious Populi has been played with a B of 300
> #C The D is 2.
> #C B*D/200 = 3
> #C Odds are modified by 3 in both numerator and denominator
> #C Odds of stealing something else are 3/4
> #C 
> #C  1 -   1 The thief is caught
> #C  2 -   4 The thief steals something else
> 
> 
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> [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:44:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (getting caught)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Dice server wrote:
>Dice rolls requested by: JT <[email-masked]>
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>    [email-masked]
>
># Player: A Mean Hat
># A Mean Hat attempted to steal Viva La Diva
># He is either caught or steals something else
># A felicitious Populi has been played with a B of 300
># The D is 2.
># B*D/200 = 3
># Odds are modified by 3 in both numerator and denominator
># Odds of stealing something else are 3/4
>#  1 -   1 The thief is caught
>#  2 -   4 The thief steals something else

My basic math failed me.  This determination is in error it should have
been 4/5

- --JT

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:45:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Art Thief Determination (getting caught)

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# Player: A Mean Hat
# A Mean Hat attempted to steal Viva La Diva
# He is either caught or steals something else
# A felicitious Populi has been played with a B of 300 by /dev/joe
# The D is 2.
# B*D/200 = 3
# Odds are modified by 3 in both numerator and denominator
# Odds of stealing something else are 4/5
#  1 -   1 The thief is caught
#  2 -   5 The thief steals something else

No. of sides on every die:      5
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

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> From: JT <[email-masked]>
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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 5
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Art Thief Determination (getting caught)
> 
> #C Player: A Mean Hat
> #C A Mean Hat attempted to steal Viva La Diva
> #C He is either caught or steals something else
> #C A felicitious Populi has been played with a B of 300 by /dev/joe
> #C The D is 2.
> #C B*D/200 = 3
> #C Odds are modified by 3 in both numerator and denominator
> #C Odds of stealing something else are 4/5
> #C 
> #C  1 -   1 The thief is caught
> #C  2 -   5 The thief steals something else
> 
> 
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> [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:45:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination

I request that, for doing a random determination where there was a 100%
chance of one choice being made, risE thwap JT with that newbie wand and K
2 give em a sound thwaping (of some variation or other)

>
># Player: A Mean Hat
># A Mean Hat attempted to steal Viva La Diva (value A$1001)
># Success is 0 %
>#  0 -   0 The theft worked
>#  1 - 100 The theft failed
>
>No. of sides on every die:    100
>No. of dice for every roll:     1
>No. of dice rolls requested:    1
>No. of rolls per line:          1
>
>     42

- --A Mean Hat.
Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master -- Art Thief -- Warrior Caste -- Crazy
French Scotsman -- Really Weird

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:53:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: finishing move

I use my Otzma Card: Felicous Populi and note that:

i am betting A$600 on 

the determination made for "another random item of the same type is stolen
by mistake(and transferred to the player as in d) above)" 

to be the trinket: "Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve"

(see Rule 1240.15/3 e if you desire clarification)

Studge

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:03:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Final Thieving

#P [email-masked]
#S 820
#D 1
#R 1
#L 1
#T Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

#C Player: A Mean Hat
#C A Mean Hat stole something (other than Viva La Diva) by mistake
#C A felicitious Populi has been played with a B of 600 (by Studge)
#C The D is 205 (205 other possible items in the museum).
#C B*D/200 = 615
#C Odds are modified by 615 in both numerator and denominator
#C Odds of stealing 'Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve' are 616/820

#C   1 -   1 Nethack
#C   2 -   2 Flora Amanita
#C   3 -   3 A Golden Boomerang Statue
#C   4 -   4 Map of Jara
#C   5 -   5 Military Laser 9
#C   6 -   6 Practice Voodoo Economics
#C   7 -   7 Phish
#C   8 -  17 10 Malenkai's Gold Coins
#C  18 -  18 The Golden Frog
#C  19 -  19 Curious Clock of Uesticlox
#C  20 -  20 Square Peg and Round Hole
#C  21 -  21 Puzzle Box
#C  22 -  22 Lake Vostok
#C  23 -  23 Dragon by Moonlight
#C  24 - 123 100 Quite Garish Ties (1-100 in order)
#C 124 - 124 Crows! Crows! Crows!
#C 125 - 135 11 Lukes (#6-16 in order)
#C 136 - 139 4 Mr. Spocks (#1, #3-5 in order)
#C 140 - 140 Little Bag O' Chips Z
#C 141 - 141 Nonentity 137
#C 142 - 142 Big-Nosed Kilroy
#C 143 - 143 Orb of Aldur
#C 144 - 144 The Sceptre of banna #3
#C 145 - 145 off-chartreuse mask
#C 146 - 146 Gingham Shovel
#C 147 - 147 Jello Wrestling for Fun and Profit
#C 148 - 148 The Bat'leth of Honour
#C 149 - 169 21 Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden (4-5, 7-9, 11-12, 14-21, 24-25, 27, 29, 31-32 (in order))
#C 170 - 170 Replica Football shirt
#C 171 - 171 Better than a Stilton
#C 172 - 172 just how dumb people can be
#C 173 - 173 Cheque for A$2
#C 174 - 174 Cheque for A$3
#C 175 - 175 Cheque for A$4
#C 176 - 176 Cheque for A$5
#C 177 - 177 Cheque for A$6
#C 178 - 178 Cheque for A$7
#C 179 - 179 Cheque for A$8
#C 180 - 180 Cheque for A$9
#C 181 - 181 Cheque for A$10
#C 182 - 182 Ez-Cheese
#C 183 - 183 The Laundry Clean Disk(tm)
#C 184 - 184 Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden 3
#C 185 - 185 set of Steak Knives 99877
#C 186 - 186 A Nickel
#C 187 - 187 Onyx Lion
#C 188 - 188 Inky Bloater Decoy 5
#C 189 - 189 Little Wooden Ship #9
#C 190 - 190 Beldin's Parka
#C 191 - 191 Inky Bloater Decoy 137
#C 192 - 192 The Ackanomic Museum of Antiquities
#C 193 - 193 Guy Fawkes' Soap Box
#C 194 - 194 Malenkai's Amber Banana Tree
#C 195 - 195 The Folly of Fooling with Slakko
#C 196 - 196 Feather Bed
#C 197 - 197 Crown of Ultimate Failure
#C 198 - 198 I Remember Oom-Pah-Pah!
#C 199 - 199 The Old Man's Marbles
#C 200 - 200 Vilya
#C 201 - 201 Nenya
#C 202 - 202 Narya the Great
#C 203 - 203 The One
#C 204 - 204 Fleas Shaking Hands #1
#C 205 - 820 Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve

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[ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:06:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

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Rolls also sent to:
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# Player: A Mean Hat
# A Mean Hat stole something (other than Viva La Diva) by mistake
# A felicitious Populi has been played with a B of 600 (by Studge)
# The D is 205 (205 other possible items in the museum).
# B*D/200 = 615
# Odds are modified by 615 in both numerator and denominator
# Odds of stealing 'Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve' are 616/820
#   1 -   1 Nethack
#   2 -   2 Flora Amanita
#   3 -   3 A Golden Boomerang Statue
#   4 -   4 Map of Jara
#   5 -   5 Military Laser 9
#   6 -   6 Practice Voodoo Economics
#   7 -   7 Phish
#   8 -  17 10 Malenkai's Gold Coins
#  18 -  18 The Golden Frog
#  19 -  19 Curious Clock of Uesticlox
#  20 -  20 Square Peg and Round Hole
#  21 -  21 Puzzle Box
#  22 -  22 Lake Vostok
#  23 -  23 Dragon by Moonlight
#  24 - 123 100 Quite Garish Ties (1-100 in order)
# 124 - 124 Crows! Crows! Crows!
# 125 - 135 11 Lukes (#6-16 in order)
# 136 - 139 4 Mr. Spocks (#1, #3-5 in order)
# 140 - 140 Little Bag O' Chips Z
# 141 - 141 Nonentity 137
# 142 - 142 Big-Nosed Kilroy
# 143 - 143 Orb of Aldur
# 144 - 144 The Sceptre of banna #3
# 145 - 145 off-chartreuse mask
# 146 - 146 Gingham Shovel
# 147 - 147 Jello Wrestling for Fun and Profit
# 148 - 148 The Bat'leth of Honour
# 149 - 169 21 Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden (4-5, 7-9, 11-12, 14-21, 24-25, 27, 29, 31-32 (in order))
# 170 - 170 Replica Football shirt
# 171 - 171 Better than a Stilton
# 172 - 172 just how dumb people can be
# 173 - 173 Cheque for A$2
# 174 - 174 Cheque for A$3
# 175 - 175 Cheque for A$4
# 176 - 176 Cheque for A$5
# 177 - 177 Cheque for A$6
# 178 - 178 Cheque for A$7
# 179 - 179 Cheque for A$8
# 180 - 180 Cheque for A$9
# 181 - 181 Cheque for A$10
# 182 - 182 Ez-Cheese
# 183 - 183 The Laundry Clean Disk(tm)
# 184 - 184 Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden 3
# 185 - 185 set of Steak Knives 99877
# 186 - 186 A Nickel
# 187 - 187 Onyx Lion
# 188 - 188 Inky Bloater Decoy 5
# 189 - 189 Little Wooden Ship #9
# 190 - 190 Beldin's Parka
# 191 - 191 Inky Bloater Decoy 137
# 192 - 192 The Ackanomic Museum of Antiquities
# 193 - 193 Guy Fawkes' Soap Box
# 194 - 194 Malenkai's Amber Banana Tree
# 195 - 195 The Folly of Fooling with Slakko
# 196 - 196 Feather Bed
# 197 - 197 Crown of Ultimate Failure
# 198 - 198 I Remember Oom-Pah-Pah!
# 199 - 199 The Old Man's Marbles
# 200 - 200 Vilya
# 201 - 201 Nenya
# 202 - 202 Narya the Great
# 203 - 203 The One
# 204 - 204 Fleas Shaking Hands #1
# 205 - 820 Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve

No. of sides on every die:    820
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

    790

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> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 01:05:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: JT <[email-masked]>
> To: Dice Server <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Acka: Final Thieving 
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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> 
> #P [email-masked]
> #S 820
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)
> 
> #C Player: A Mean Hat
> #C A Mean Hat stole something (other than Viva La Diva) by mistake
> #C A felicitious Populi has been played with a B of 600 (by Studge)
> #C The D is 205 (205 other possible items in the museum).
> #C B*D/200 = 615
> #C Odds are modified by 615 in both numerator and denominator
> #C Odds of stealing 'Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve' are 616/820
> 
> #C   1 -   1 Nethack
> #C   2 -   2 Flora Amanita
> #C   3 -   3 A Golden Boomerang Statue
> #C   4 -   4 Map of Jara
> #C   5 -   5 Military Laser 9
> #C   6 -   6 Practice Voodoo Economics
> #C   7 -   7 Phish
> #C   8 -  17 10 Malenkai's Gold Coins
> #C  18 -  18 The Golden Frog
> #C  19 -  19 Curious Clock of Uesticlox
> #C  20 -  20 Square Peg and Round Hole
> #C  21 -  21 Puzzle Box
> #C  22 -  22 Lake Vostok
> #C  23 -  23 Dragon by Moonlight
> #C  24 - 123 100 Quite Garish Ties (1-100 in order)
> #C 124 - 124 Crows! Crows! Crows!
> #C 125 - 135 11 Lukes (#6-16 in order)
> #C 136 - 139 4 Mr. Spocks (#1, #3-5 in order)
> #C 140 - 140 Little Bag O' Chips Z
> #C 141 - 141 Nonentity 137
> #C 142 - 142 Big-Nosed Kilroy
> #C 143 - 143 Orb of Aldur
> #C 144 - 144 The Sceptre of banna #3
> #C 145 - 145 off-chartreuse mask
> #C 146 - 146 Gingham Shovel
> #C 147 - 147 Jello Wrestling for Fun and Profit
> #C 148 - 148 The Bat'leth of Honour
> #C 149 - 169 21 Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden (4-5, 7-9, 11-12, 14-21, 24-25, 27, 29, 31-32 (in order))
> #C 170 - 170 Replica Football shirt
> #C 171 - 171 Better than a Stilton
> #C 172 - 172 just how dumb people can be
> #C 173 - 173 Cheque for A$2
> #C 174 - 174 Cheque for A$3
> #C 175 - 175 Cheque for A$4
> #C 176 - 176 Cheque for A$5
> #C 177 - 177 Cheque for A$6
> #C 178 - 178 Cheque for A$7
> #C 179 - 179 Cheque for A$8
> #C 180 - 180 Cheque for A$9
> #C 181 - 181 Cheque for A$10
> #C 182 - 182 Ez-Cheese
> #C 183 - 183 The Laundry Clean Disk(tm)
> #C 184 - 184 Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden 3
> #C 185 - 185 set of Steak Knives 99877
> #C 186 - 186 A Nickel
> #C 187 - 187 Onyx Lion
> #C 188 - 188 Inky Bloater Decoy 5
> #C 189 - 189 Little Wooden Ship #9
> #C 190 - 190 Beldin's Parka
> #C 191 - 191 Inky Bloater Decoy 137
> #C 192 - 192 The Ackanomic Museum of Antiquities
> #C 193 - 193 Guy Fawkes' Soap Box
> #C 194 - 194 Malenkai's Amber Banana Tree
> #C 195 - 195 The Folly of Fooling with Slakko
> #C 196 - 196 Feather Bed
> #C 197 - 197 Crown of Ultimate Failure
> #C 198 - 198 I Remember Oom-Pah-Pah!
> #C 199 - 199 The Old Man's Marbles
> #C 200 - 200 Vilya
> #C 201 - 201 Nenya
> #C 202 - 202 Narya the Great
> #C 203 - 203 The One
> #C 204 - 204 Fleas Shaking Hands #1
> #C 205 - 820 Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:06:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Final Thieving

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, JT wrote:
>#P [email-masked]
>#S 820
>#D 1
>#R 1
>#L 1
>#T Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

Sorry, typed the wrong address on the first try :/

- --JT, who should be in bed.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:27:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

hrrrm... What am i gonna do with a life-sized model of the ackan reserve?
I wanted Viva La Diva! 

I transform the 'Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve' into its value in
ackadollars, A$5001.  I give A$1472 to /dev/joe, A$2022 to Studge, and
A$586 to JT.  (i keep A$921 of it)

I pseudofound a society called "Fun with Numbers"

I go to the library, where I play "Money Money Money" by Abba

I go home

- --A Mean Hat.
Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master -- Art Thief -- Warrior Caste -- Crazy
French Scotsman -- Really Weird

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:34:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
>I transform the 'Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve' into its value in
>ackadollars, A$5001.  I give A$1472 to /dev/joe, A$2022 to Studge, and
>A$586 to JT.  (i keep A$921 of it)

I thank A Mean Hat for the funds.

>I pseudofound a society called "Fun with Numbers"

I offer to join this society.

- --JT

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:39:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 673 (FALSE)

Fortunato has ruled this FALSE.

Call for Judgement 673 - October 1, 1998
Subject: Treasure Directions Timing
Initiator: JT (sent 1 Oct 1998, 01:54 Acka)
1st Judge: K 2 (chosen 13 Oct 1998, 06:48 Acka) (deadbeat)
2nd Judge: Fortunato (chosen 20 Oct 1998, 18:13 Acka)
Judgement: FALSE

Statement:
JT has found treasure 170.

Reasoning:
While I realize that CFJ's are not usually the proper place to adjudicate
treasure maps, I (and two-star) were discussing this one last night on IRC
and he actually suggested that a CFJ might be warranted here.

According to the Treasure page (and two-star himself) the map to the
treasure is exactly as worded on the Treasure page (with no more or less
added to it).

That map reads:
>The Silver Shovel shall be found by the first player who has signed the
>Silver Shovel Contract to find a treasure buried by a custodian or writer
>of this map.

The question is one of ordering.
If the phrasing of the map correctly orders the two events of signing the
contract before finding the treasure then this CFJ should be ruled FALSE.

However, when I first read this map, I read it as
The first player who finds a treasure buried by the custodian of this map
who has also signed the Silver Shovel contract.  IE, that the contract
must be signed before this treasure could be found, but not necessarily
before the other treasure mentioned in the map.  In this case, or if this
is a valid and reasonable reading, then this CFJ should be judged TRUE.

Judge's Reasoning:

My ruling depends on the use of the word "to" in the Treasure Map (in
the phrase, "...the first player who has signed the Silver Shovel
Contract to find a treasure...").  I feel that the most common use of
"to" in this context is to imply a causal relationship.  If this was not
what two-star had intended, it should have read, "...the first player
who has signed the Silver Shovel Contract *and* found a treasure..."

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:43:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Organizing something

I pay the SHF and begin the process of founding a society called 'The
Great Museum Robbers'.

I am the psuedo-founder of this Society and I am actively seeking members.
I invite Studge, /dev/joe, and A Mean Hat to join this wonderful society.

- --JT

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:44:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> hrrrm... What am i gonna do with a life-sized model of the ackan reserve?
> I wanted Viva La Diva! 
> 
> I transform the 'Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve' into its value in
> ackadollars, A$5001.  I give A$1472 to /dev/joe, A$2022 to Studge, and
> A$586 to JT.  (i keep A$921 of it)
> 
> I pseudofound a society called "Fun with Numbers"
> 
> I go to the library, where I play "Money Money Money" by Abba
> 
> I go home
> 

 I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
A$2500

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:50:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Organizing something

At 04:43 AM 10/23/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I pay the SHF and begin the process of founding a society called 'The
>Great Museum Robbers'.
>
>I am the psuedo-founder of this Society and I am actively seeking members.
>I invite Studge, /dev/joe, and A Mean Hat to join this wonderful society.
>
i EXPRESS my desire to join

- --A Mean Hat.
Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master -- Art Thief -- Warrior Caste -- Crazy
French Scotsman -- Really Weird

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:50:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
>> I go home
>> 
>
> I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
>A$2500

I play (at about 4 minutes past where I'm once more allowed to do so :)
my OC Share your Income and name Wild Card and the sum A$1250

- --JT

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:53:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

Easy come, easy go, eh?
 
>
> I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
>A$2500
>

- --A Mean Hat.
Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master -- Art Thief -- Warrior Caste -- Crazy
French Scotsman -- Really Weird

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:38:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, JT wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
> >> I go home
> >> 
> >
> > I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
> >A$2500
> 
> I play (at about 4 minutes past where I'm once more allowed to do so :)
> my OC Share your Income and name Wild Card and the sum A$1250

Prospective action, insufficiently specified.  Does this count?

- -- 
Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Clerk of the Court

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, JT wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
> > >> I go home
> > >> 
> > >
> > > I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
> > >A$2500
> > 
> > I play (at about 4 minutes past where I'm once more allowed to do so :)
> > my OC Share your Income and name Wild Card and the sum A$1250
> 
> Prospective action, insufficiently specified.  Does this count?

Sorry, I misread what you were saying.
I give A$5 to the Twits.

- -- 
Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer - http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/
Queens' College Cambridge, 2nd Year Ph.D. (Pure Maths) - Graph Theory
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Clerk of the Court

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:15:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

Jonathan David Amery wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
>
> > hrrrm... What am i gonna do with a life-sized model of the ackan reserve?
> > I wanted Viva La Diva!
> >
> > I transform the 'Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve' into its value in
> > ackadollars, A$5001.  I give A$1472 to /dev/joe, A$2022 to Studge, and
> > A$586 to JT.  (i keep A$921 of it)
> >
> > I pseudofound a society called "Fun with Numbers"
> >
> > I go to the library, where I play "Money Money Money" by Abba
> >
> > I go home
> >
>
>  I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
> A$2500

I play my Otzma card Go Fish on the Otzma Card Share your Income played by Wild
Card. I believe this transfers A$2750 to A Mean Hat and puts Wild Card in even
greater debt than he put A Mean Hat in (because JT still gets to keep the
A$1250 he got off him). I apply to join the Gret Museum Robbers.

Rambo R Minuteman.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:35:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen) (Rex Mundi)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> 
> 
> Jonathan David Amery wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
> >
> > > hrrrm... What am i gonna do with a life-sized model of the ackan reserve?
> > > I wanted Viva La Diva!
> > >
> > > I transform the 'Life Size Model of the Ackan Reserve' into its value in
> > > ackadollars, A$5001.  I give A$1472 to /dev/joe, A$2022 to Studge, and
> > > A$586 to JT.  (i keep A$921 of it)
> > >
> > > I pseudofound a society called "Fun with Numbers"
> > >
> > > I go to the library, where I play "Money Money Money" by Abba
> > >
> > > I go home
> > >
> >
> >  I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
> > A$2500
> 
> I play my Otzma card Go Fish on the Otzma Card Share your Income played by Wild
> Card. I believe this transfers A$2750 to A Mean Hat and puts Wild Card in even
> greater debt than he put A Mean Hat in (because JT still gets to keep the
> A$1250 he got off him). I apply to join the Gret Museum Robbers.

 Right.  I recommend that the Church of the EBS transfer all three of its
Otzma Card Go Fishes and its Otzma Card Share your Income to me.  I will
share the monies I gain with the Church, as a true son of the Church.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:35:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Otzma Offer

 I offer any one one of the three Otzma Cards I currenly own (2
Truthseeker and one Skeleton Key) or the promise of A$50 to anyone who
will Go Fish either JT's Share your Income or RRM's Go Fish that were
played on me. 

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:45:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Organizing something

> I pay the SHF and begin the process of founding a society called 'The
> Great Museum Robbers'.
> 
> I am the psuedo-founder of this Society and I am actively seeking members.
> I invite Studge, /dev/joe, and A Mean Hat to join this wonderful society.

I express my desire to join The Great Museum Robbers and Fun With Numbers.

I found a society called The Thieves' Guild and invite Studge, A Mean Hat,
and JT to join.

/dev/joe

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:41:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, JT wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
>> >> I go home
>> >> 
>> >
>> > I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
>> >A$2500
>> 
>> I play (at about 4 minutes past where I'm once more allowed to do so :)
>> my OC Share your Income and name Wild Card and the sum A$1250
>
>Prospective action, insufficiently specified.  Does this count?

Actually no.. the comment was that it was (at the time I sent that) 4
minutes past the 3 day point.

- --JT

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:42:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Art Thief Determination (item stolen)

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Duncan C. "Slakko" Richer wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, JT wrote:
>> 
>> > On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
>> > >> I go home
>> > >> 
>> > >
>> > > I play my Otzma Card Share your Income, naming A Mean Hat and the sum
>> > >A$2500
>> > 
>> > I play (at about 4 minutes past where I'm once more allowed to do so :)
>> > my OC Share your Income and name Wild Card and the sum A$1250
>> 
>> Prospective action, insufficiently specified.  Does this count?
>
>Sorry, I misread what you were saying.
>I give A$5 to the Twits.

and I of course replied to the previous without reading this one first.

I don't however give any money to the twits for this.

- --JT

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