Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #363
From: [email-masked] (ackanomic digest)
To: [email-masked]

ackanomic digest      Saturday, October 17 1998      Volume 03 : Number 363

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:34:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Hall <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3641

> Proposal 3641
> The Meaning of Ping

I retract this in favor of a version to come with at least 
one bug removed :-)

saaremaa

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:16:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3649

I retract this, and request that risE thwap saaremaa with the newbie wand
thing.

At 01:01 AM 10/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Proposal 3649
>What's the definition of a Sine?
>A mean Hat
>Due: Sat Oct 24 01:01:23 1998
>
>
>{{[There is no actual rule that says that Acka is in English and should be
>interpreted as such.  This came up (in my opinion) in CFJ 665, where the
>definition of sine was not rule defined.  In a case like that, it would be
>good to have an explicit requirement that the word be defined in English.
>Note that this does not have any effect on the situation of 665, seeing as
>none of the definitions in any of the dictionaries address the issue.  This
>is just something that came up that I felt should be put into rule format.]}}
>
>Renumber sections I through IX of rule 340(Conventions) as II through X
>
>Add the following NICKEL-delimited text to Rule 340(Conventions) just
>before as section I
>
>NICKEL
>English is the official language of Ackanomic.  If the meaning of a word is
>ambiguous, and there is an English definition of the word, that definition
>i taken to be the meaning of the word.  For the purposes of this rule, if
>such a meaning is necessary, it should be taken from one of the Official
>Dictionaries of Ackanomic, or by the Oxford English Dictionary if the word
>isn't defined in the Official Dictionaries.
>NICKEL
> 
- --A Mean Hat.
  Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master - Warrior Caste - Crazy French
Scotsman - Really Weird

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:17:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Treasures

JT has found Treasure 251 which consists of A$25
two players sent me error fixes:
JT had found 5 errors.
Altra the FireCat found 4 errors

The Map Was:

This treasure shall be found one week after this treasure is buried by
the player who has found the greatest number of distinct,
previously unreported erros on the any web page maintianed by K 2
(pe.html, treasure.htm etc... ).

- -----------
The Green Ripper (or whatever Hubert is called these days) has found
Treasure 254 which consists of 6 prosthetic foreheads.

E sent the following link which is soooo worng it had me on the floor :)

http://www.theage.com.au/daily/981011/breaking/908067776.html
"India rocked by onion shortage"

The Map Was:
This treasure will be found by the first player to correctly state what
K 2 did on 11/10/98.
If by 16th of October no player has made a correct guess, then the first
guess that makes K 2 laugh shall be accepted.

You'll have to wait until next year to find out what I actually did :)

K 2

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:38:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Nomicbot Results

I sign on the dotted line

- --A Mean Hat.
  Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master - Warrior Caste - Crazy French
Scotsman - Really Weird

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:45:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Nameless Props

It seems the Promoter is required to give titles to all those proposals
which are not given valid titles by their authors, however, nothing
requires me to do so in the initial distribution of a proposal, and the
no-changes-after-proposals-are-distributed thing limits itself to the
*text* of proposals, so I hereby title these proposals as follows, in
the tradition of past proposal bots:

3650 is titled Generic Proposal Title #3650
3651 is titled Generic Proposal Title #3651
3652 is titled Generic Proposal Title #3652
3653 is titled Generic Proposal Title #3653

The bot now checks prop titles for compliance with the rules, at least
as I read them, and uses a title like the above if you forget to put
a title or make an illegal one (too long, or with illegal characters).

/dev/joe
Promoter

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:58:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: some stuff

I create a trinket called "Easy as Easy can Be... or is it?" worth A$2 with
the description "Trinkets must have descriptions.  The Monkey and the
Flunkie, the Eel and the Squeal."
- --A Mean Hat.
  Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master - Warrior Caste - Crazy French
Scotsman - Really Weird

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:27:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Stuff

I pay the standard harfer fee and name 'Poet Laureate'
I demand an end to this banna republic.

- --JT, doing this for more than one reason.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:56:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Contracka and Treasure

That's worth a sound thwaping, variation 31 I think which is precisely what I
give CnH :)

K 2

[email-masked] wrote:

> >>I sign on the dotted line.
> >
> >I also sign on the dotted line.
>
> I draw lines between the dots of the dotted line, making it a plain line.
>
> CnH

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:56:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: acting officers

JT wrote:

> As Speaker, I believe that I am acting Historian, Poet Laurete, and
> Spelling Exchequer.

I offer the acting Poet Laurete A$25 to create a poem for me.

K 2
wishing e was prez so e could *make* JT do that :)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:56:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Auction Results

Rambo has won the auction for the prosthetic forehead:

http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/Nomic/Acka/entity/proshead.html#BM028

Eir account has been debited A$15.

K 2

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:56:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Leather Artifact is infected

"No, e, uh, meant to do that."
JT+EBSx2
- ---
3

"Yes, why just yesterday e posted a letter to eir aunt!"
A Mean
Wild + EBS
risE + EBS
K 2
- ---
6

The cure:
It is Green.

K  2

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:03:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: acting officers

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, K 2 wrote:
>JT wrote:
>
>> As Speaker, I believe that I am acting Historian, Poet Laurete, and
>> Spelling Exchequer.
>
>I offer the acting Poet Laurete A$25 to create a poem for me.

I accept this commission.

The player K 2
requested this poem.
It is now complete.

>wishing e was prez so e could *make* JT do that :)

- --JT, taking a cheap way out, since the type of poem wasn't specified, and
once more doing more than he seems :)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:38:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Trinket Creation.

I create a Trinket with the name "Bowl of Rice Product" and a value of
A$125.  Its description is: "I won the first-ever game of paella and all
I got was this stupid Bowl of Rice Product."

IB
yes, it will be a Treasure soon.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:05:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Rebel!  And Signing.

 I set my rebelliousness characteristic to "on".
 I sign on the dotted line.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:55:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: E-mail addresses

I have entered the following list of player email addresses into the new
proposal bot.  If you send mail that has a different 'From:' address than
the one listed for you below, you need to contact me to have your alternate
address(es) added to the bot's alias file.  Wild Card's hermes address has
already been added.

/dev/joe
Promoter

404 Not Found	[email-masked]
AJ	[email-masked]
Alfvaen	[email-masked]
A mean Hat	[email-masked]
Aunt Froot	[email-masked]
Ayla	[email-masked]
Balsamic Dragon	[email-masked]
Bascule	[email-masked]
breadbox	[email-masked]
Brinjal	[email-masked]
Calvin N Hobbes	[email-masked]
Chaos	[email-masked]
/dev/joe	[email-masked]
else...if	[email-masked]
Ethelred	[email-masked]
Fortunato	[email-masked]
Goldenmean	[email-masked]
Guy Fawkes	[email-masked]
IdiotBoy	[email-masked]
J. M. Bear	[email-masked]
JT	[email-masked]
K 2	[email-masked]
Koxvolio	[email-masked]
Leather Artifact	[email-masked]
marsboy	[email-masked]
Memo	[email-masked]
mr cwm	[email-masked]
Mr. Lunatic Fringe	[email-masked]
Niccolo Flychuck	[email-masked]
Piz	[email-masked]
Publius	[email-masked]
Rambo R Minuteman	[email-masked]
Red Barn	[email-masked]
Rex Mundi	[email-masked]
Rig R. Mortis	[email-masked]
risE	[email-masked]
Robert Sevin	[email-masked]
Robin Hood	[email-masked]
rufus	[email-masked]
saaremaa	[email-masked]
Slakko	[email-masked]
Studge	[email-masked]
The Green Ripper	[email-masked]
ThinMan	[email-masked]
this is not a name	[email-masked]
two-star	[email-masked]
Voting Gnome	[email-masked]
Vynd	[email-masked]
Wayne	[email-masked]
Wild Card	[email-masked]

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:18:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Bowing To Peer Pressure

I sign on the dotted line.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Shawn Colvin:A Few Small Repairs
Current Book--Anne Rice:The Queen of The Damned
Scott laughed hard when Wanda brought home the contaminated cheese.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:58:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Hall <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: E-mail addresses

> Wayne   [email-masked]

Cool.  Did I miss Elder Wayne rejoining?

saaremaa

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:10:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: E-mail addresses

> > Wayne   [email-masked]
> 
> Cool.  Did I miss Elder Wayne rejoining?
> 
> saaremaa

The last player state reorg made all the elders permanently be players,
in 'On Ice' state.  That was P3216, one of yours.  Did you forget so soon?
Admittedly, I could do without Wayne in the database, but I just threw
the entire player database JT gave me into the bot.

/dev/joe

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:13:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Votes

It occurs to me suddenly to wonder if there's any point in voting on
Proposals that been recently distributed, with the upcoming change in
Tabulators...unless votes are getting forwarded...anyway, I should
know before I try to vote anymore.  (Though ackabot is replying very
nicely to confirm my votes, so I don't have to reconstruct them from
memory any more...)

Also, I think it would be a good idea, for future emergencies, to codify
in the Rules that in the event of a Tabulator being removed from office,
unless voting results can be recovered within a reasonable amount of time,
Proposal voting periods start again.  The same kind of thing could cover
changes of Count Tabula as well.  My biggest concern is to determine when
this should take effect--upon a Tabulator's resignation?  Impeachment?
Removal from Office for going On Ice(or however that works these days)?
Should there perhaps be a three-day period when the new Tabulator
takes office in which e waits for the old votes to be forwarded before
giving up?  Consider this a proto-RFC.  Comments?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Squirrel Nut Zippers:Hot
Current Book--Anne Rice:The Queen of The Damned
Thit tagline is not self-referential because "thit" is not a word.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:21:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Bowing To Peer Pressure

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> I sign on the dotted line.

What the hell.

I sign "on the dotted line".

Yours,
Slakko
not being _that_ much of a sheep.
- -- 
Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College
http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator  | 2nd Year PhD(PMa)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:25:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Votes

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> It occurs to me suddenly to wonder if there's any point in voting on
> Proposals that been recently distributed, with the upcoming change in
> Tabulators...unless votes are getting forwarded...anyway, I should
> know before I try to vote anymore.  (Though ackabot is replying very
> nicely to confirm my votes, so I don't have to reconstruct them from
> memory any more...)
> 
> Also, I think it would be a good idea, for future emergencies, to codify
> in the Rules that in the event of a Tabulator being removed from office,
> unless voting results can be recovered within a reasonable amount of time,
> Proposal voting periods start again.  The same kind of thing could cover
> changes of Count Tabula as well.  My biggest concern is to determine when
> this should take effect--upon a Tabulator's resignation?  Impeachment?
> Removal from Office for going On Ice(or however that works these days)?
> Should there perhaps be a three-day period when the new Tabulator
> takes office in which e waits for the old votes to be forwarded before
> giving up?  Consider this a proto-RFC.  Comments?

If the player who was Tabulator for a set of proposals does not release
their voting results for a period of two weeks, then all votes
previously cast on those proposals shall be disregarded, and the voting
period for those proposals shall be deemed to last for one week, starting
at the time when any player first points out that the voting result delay
has occurred.

Suggestions?

- -- 
Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College
http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator  | 2nd Year PhD(PMa)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:33:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Hall <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: E-mail addresses

> The last player state reorg made all the elders permanently be players,
> in 'On Ice' state.  That was P3216, one of yours.  Did you forget so soon?

No, I thought he had a different e-mail address back then.  I remember
some bitnet-style thing with !'s in it, so I guess that is what threw me off.

saaremaa

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:46:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Votes

>
>If the player who was Tabulator for a set of proposals does not release
>their voting results for a period of two weeks, then all votes
>previously cast on those proposals shall be disregarded, and the voting
>period for those proposals shall be deemed to last for one week, starting
>at the time when any player first points out that the voting result delay
>has occurred.
>
>Suggestions?
>

Seems as if a tabulator could muck with the results (albeit of only one
proposal before being removed from office.) by just not releasing them.
Basically, this seems to give the tabulator the privilege to call for a
revote and give up the office of tabulator.  I don't know if this is
important, but it was just the first thing that struck me reading this
suggestion.

- --A Mean Hat.
  Daring Adventurer -- Dungeon Master - Warrior Caste - Crazy French
Scotsman - Really Weird

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:49:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Bot Upgrade

Added bot commands:

#silent

If this appears anywhere in your message (outside a proposal) the bot
will not send the automatic response.

#retract NNNN

Retract proposal NNNN.  You can only do this if it is your proposal or
you have special privileges, and please don't do this without also posting
publicly.  You can do both with the same message by putting:

#retract NNNN
#end

at the top of your message, followed by the text you want to write, and
send it both the the list and ackabot.  The #end will cause it to ignore
the non-command part of your message that follows.

/dev/joe
Promoter

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:36:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Votes

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:
>It occurs to me suddenly to wonder if there's any point in voting on
>Proposals that been recently distributed, with the upcoming change in
>Tabulators...unless votes are getting forwarded...anyway, I should
>know before I try to vote anymore.  (Though ackabot is replying very
>nicely to confirm my votes, so I don't have to reconstruct them from
>memory any more...)

I had asked people to withhold voting on the newly distributed proposals
until after I selected the new tabulator so as to avoid just this kind of
confusion.

>Also, I think it would be a good idea, for future emergencies, to codify
>in the Rules that in the event of a Tabulator being removed from office,
>unless voting results can be recovered within a reasonable amount of time,
>Proposal voting periods start again.  The same kind of thing could cover
>changes of Count Tabula as well.  My biggest concern is to determine when
>this should take effect--upon a Tabulator's resignation?  Impeachment?
>Removal from Office for going On Ice(or however that works these days)?
>Should there perhaps be a three-day period when the new Tabulator
>takes office in which e waits for the old votes to be forwarded before
>giving up?  Consider this a proto-RFC.  Comments?

I think this is a good idea.

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:44:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Web site death

The machine which hosted my ackanomic web information was last night hit
by hackers in such a way as to destroy all 3 hard-drives on the machine
simultaneously.   This resulted in the loss of over 8 gigabytes of data
from this machine including the copy of the website which I had over
there.

Fortunately, this isn't fatal as I have the files here on my local
machine.   I will be rehosting them on another site shortly, but wanted
people to know why they couldn't get to my website right now if they
tried.

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:47:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Raft (Calvin N Hobbes)

Calvin N Hobbes has found the Great Raft.

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:27:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Head Apollo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3649

A Mean Hat wrote:
>I retract this, and request that risE thwap saaremaa with the newbie >wand
thing.

Even though I don't quite know why saaremaa requires a thwapping, I stalk up
behind him and raise the Awesome Wand of Newbie Power (tm) high.
Unfortunately, saaremaa's invisible field of ex-Overlordness negates all the
Wand's power and I flee humiliated by the might of such a long-standing
player.

risE

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:27:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Head Apollo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Raft (Calvin N Hobbes)

>Calvin N Hobbes has found the Great Raft.
>
>--JT

Ahoy there! I've got the oars! All we need now are two intrepid idiots who
don't believe any of that probability nonsense! Why do I keep ending
sentences in exclamation marks! Help me I can't stop!

risE!

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:05:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Raft (Calvin N Hobbes)

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Head Apollo wrote:

> >Calvin N Hobbes has found the Great Raft.
> >
> >--JT
> Ahoy there! I've got the oars! All we need now are two intrepid idiots who
> don't believe any of that probability nonsense! Why do I keep ending
> sentences in exclamation marks! Help me I can't stop!
> 

 Ahyle Joyne Yah - I consent to go upon a rafting expedition.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:48:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Web Pages.

 Would it be possible to have non-tables versions of acka web pages, such
as the thrallmaster and dungeon master's pages?

 My browser doesn't do tables readably,  It's quite good at frames, but
not tables... :-(

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:52:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Raft (Calvin N Hobbes)

Count me in.

IB
The I is for Intrepid.

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Head Apollo wrote:

> >Calvin N Hobbes has found the Great Raft.
> >
> >--JT
> 
> 
> Ahoy there! I've got the oars! All we need now are two intrepid idiots who
> don't believe any of that probability nonsense! Why do I keep ending
> sentences in exclamation marks! Help me I can't stop!
> 
> risE!
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:41:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Bot Upgrade

On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> Added bot commands:
> 
> #silent
> 
> If this appears anywhere in your message (outside a proposal) the bot
> will not send the automatic response.
> 
> #retract NNNN
> 
> Retract proposal NNNN.  You can only do this if it is your proposal or
> you have special privileges, and please don't do this without also posting
> publicly.  You can do both with the same message by putting:
> 
> #retract NNNN
> #end
> 
> at the top of your message, followed by the text you want to write, and
> send it both the the list and ackabot.  The #end will cause it to ignore
> the non-command part of your message that follows.

Technically I should point out that the rules don't allow private
retractions, so really the #retract command should not be implemented
until the rules are changed so as to allow private messages to the
Promoter to be valid retractions.

- -- 
Duncan C. Richer aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother | Queens' College
http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~dcr24/    Ackanomic     | U. of Cambridge
Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator  | 2nd Year PhD(PMa)

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:52:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Why Am I so Dumb?

#retract 3667
#end

Donating A$3 to the Twits as I do so I retract proposal 3667 since it
refers to a characteristic that doesn't exist.

RRM.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:54:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Bot Upgrade

Slakko wrote:
> Technically I should point out that the rules don't allow private
> retractions, so really the #retract command should not be implemented
> until the rules are changed so as to allow private messages to the
> Promoter to be valid retractions.

You are correct that the rules don't allow private retractions.  The
#retract command is not intended to allow private retractions, merely
to tell the bot that a proposal has been retracted.  If a proposal
is "retracted" through the bot but not publicly, I will reconstruct the
votes for that proposal from logs (including any that were attempted
but refused by the bot because the proposal had already been marked
retracted).  If anybody becomes a frequent offender at doing this, I'll
program the bot to not accept retractions from that player, but I hope
it doesn't come to that.

/dev/joe
Promoter

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:02:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:

 I doff my Silly Agenda Hats - numbers C23 and C24.

 Wild Card.

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:03:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proxy.

Proxy SPAM

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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:06:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Don Hats.

I Don my two Silly Agenda Hats - numbers C23 and C24.

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Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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