Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #342
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ackanomic digest     Wednesday, September 30 1998     Volume 03 : Number 342

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:16:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bryan Federico" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Oars (Altra)

I'm up for rafting.
>The Great Oars of Ackanomic have been found by Altra.
>
>My apologies for the slight lateness of this as I was out of town this
>weekend.    I did have access, and tried to at least stay abreast of
>things, but this slipped my mind until today.
>
>--JT, OiCoRT

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:33:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 665 (Slakko)

Wild Card has gone deadbeat.  Slakko has been selected.

Call for Judgement 665 - September 14, 1998
Subject: Weishaupt Agenda CWCFJ
Initiator: Weishaupt (sent 14 Sep 1998, 12:40 Acka)
1st Judge: Robert Sevin (selected 14 Sep 1998, 12:47 Acka) (declined)
2nd Judge: Ethelred (selected 14 Sep 1998, 14:55 Acka) (deadbeat)
3rd Judge: Wild Card (selected 22 Sep 1998, 21:52 Acka) (deadbeat)
4th Judge: Slakko
Judgement: 

Statement:  
Weishaupt has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.

Reasoning: 
Weishaupt has three true, visible, agenda hats, with a net weight less than
his point score.

3. The owner of this hat has been in at least 1 duel and has not lost 
more than 2 duels.
Weight: 30

I have been in one duel, which i won

8. The owner of this hat is the Overlord of the owner of this eggplant.
Weight: 110

Studge owns this eggplant. I am the Overlord of Studge

13. The owner of this hat has publically posted the sine of a googleplex 
to a precision of at least three significant digits, and accompanied 
said posting with proof that the value posted is, indeed, the sine 
of a googleplex.
Weight: -200

I did so earlier today.

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:51:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 665 (FALSE)

Slakko has judged this one FALSE.

Call for Judgement 665 - September 14, 1998
Subject: Weishaupt Agenda CWCFJ
Initiator: Weishaupt (sent 14 Sep 1998, 12:40 Acka)
1st Judge: Robert Sevin (selected 14 Sep 1998, 12:47 Acka) (declined)
2nd Judge: Ethelred (selected 14 Sep 1998, 14:55 Acka) (deadbeat)
3rd Judge: Wild Card (selected 22 Sep 1998, 21:52 Acka) (deadbeat)
4th Judge: Slakko (selected 30 Sep 1998, 02:33 Acka)
Judgement: FALSE

Statement:  
Weishaupt has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.

Reasoning: 
Weishaupt has three true, visible, agenda hats, with a net weight less than
his point score.

3. The owner of this hat has been in at least 1 duel and has not lost 
more than 2 duels.
Weight: 30

I have been in one duel, which i won

8. The owner of this hat is the Overlord of the owner of this eggplant.
Weight: 110

Studge owns this eggplant. I am the Overlord of Studge

13. The owner of this hat has publically posted the sine of a googleplex 
to a precision of at least three significant digits, and accompanied 
said posting with proof that the value posted is, indeed, the sine 
of a googleplex.
Weight: -200

I did so earlier today.

ThinMan's Bronze Torch Reasoning:

I see two potential positions here.

1.  (permissive)  Because the hat did not specify units, any units are
    permissable for the purpose of fulfilling the condition.

2.  (strict)  Because no units were specified, the condition refers to
    the unitless case [which is equivalent to radians].

I tend to favor the latter, principally because, in my opinion, game
custom
and the spirit of the game favor winning being more difficult over winning
being less difficult.  I don't at the moment see any other basis than
custom and spirit on which to judge between those alternatives, but I
grant
that others may find current custom and spirit to be different than I
assert.

I don't see any basis to believe that the condition can be interpreted to
mean degrees or grads _specifically_, but that becomes rather academic in
the light of position 1.

Judge's Reasoning:

I accept that ThinMan's position 1 could theoretically be valid.  However,
position 2 requires less additional meaning to be "read into" the
condition of the Agenda Hat.  As the unitless case (i.e. radians) is
perfectly well defined (i.e. the sine of a number is itself defined), I
see no need to interpret the hat to admit any other kind of unit.  I
therefore agree with ThinMan that position 2 should be favoured.

I therefore believe that the conditions of hat 13 have not been met, and
hence that Weishaupt has not achieved a winning condition.  I therefore
judge FALSE.

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:23:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 665 (1-FALSE) (TEFKATSC)

Weishaupt has appealed.  This goes to The Entity Formerly Known as the
Supreme Court.

Call for Judgement 665 - September 14, 1998
Subject: Weishaupt Agenda CWCFJ
Initiator: Weishaupt (sent 14 Sep 1998, 12:40 Acka)
1st Judge: Robert Sevin (selected 14 Sep 1998, 12:47 Acka) (declined)
2nd Judge: Ethelred (selected 14 Sep 1998, 14:55 Acka) (deadbeat)
3rd Judge: Wild Card (selected 22 Sep 1998, 21:52 Acka) (deadbeat)
4th Judge: Slakko (selected 30 Sep 1998, 02:33 Acka)
Judgement: FALSE (promulgated 30 Sep 1998, 02:51 Acka)
Appealed by: Weishaupt
Cortex: The Entity Formerly Known as the Supreme Court (breadbox and
saaremaa)
Judgement:

Statement:  
Weishaupt has achieved a winning condition during the current cycle.

Reasoning: 
Weishaupt has three true, visible, agenda hats, with a net weight less than
his point score.

3. The owner of this hat has been in at least 1 duel and has not lost 
more than 2 duels.
Weight: 30

I have been in one duel, which i won

8. The owner of this hat is the Overlord of the owner of this eggplant.
Weight: 110

Studge owns this eggplant. I am the Overlord of Studge

13. The owner of this hat has publically posted the sine of a googleplex 
to a precision of at least three significant digits, and accompanied 
said posting with proof that the value posted is, indeed, the sine 
of a googleplex.
Weight: -200

I did so earlier today.

ThinMan's Bronze Torch Reasoning:

I see two potential positions here.

1.  (permissive)  Because the hat did not specify units, any units are
    permissable for the purpose of fulfilling the condition.

2.  (strict)  Because no units were specified, the condition refers to
    the unitless case [which is equivalent to radians].

I tend to favor the latter, principally because, in my opinion, game
custom
and the spirit of the game favor winning being more difficult over winning
being less difficult.  I don't at the moment see any other basis than
custom and spirit on which to judge between those alternatives, but I
grant
that others may find current custom and spirit to be different than I
assert.

I don't see any basis to believe that the condition can be interpreted to
mean degrees or grads _specifically_, but that becomes rather academic in
the light of position 1.

Judge's Reasoning:

I accept that ThinMan's position 1 could theoretically be valid.  However,
position 2 requires less additional meaning to be "read into" the
condition of the Agenda Hat.  As the unitless case (i.e. radians) is
perfectly well defined (i.e. the sine of a number is itself defined), I
see no need to interpret the hat to admit any other kind of unit.  I
therefore agree with ThinMan that position 2 should be favoured.

I therefore believe that the conditions of hat 13 have not been met, and
hence that Weishaupt has not achieved a winning condition.  I therefore
judge FALSE.

Appellant's Reasoning:

(none)

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:57:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: trinkets and treasure

I create a trinket worth A$1 called "Treasure is a way to give devj0e
money" with the description "It looks a lot like it's buried... Oh wait,
no, it looks like it's in the museum."  I bury it and reveal the following,
which has quite a bit to do with the map:

QQQQMHXFVHF(vipu)(IWS)

if anyone finds this without either a map shard or more being revealed, i
will be less than happy.
- --Anathema
  Dungeon Master - Religious Caste - Crazy French Scotsman - Really Weird

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:12:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Delays

I'm not moving in until tomorrow, but my computer is already packed up.
Once the move occurs, though, I need to get a dialup connection to the
university computing service (I have the form, but need to hand it in with
payment), and also to get the special phone connection.

The web pages may therefore not get updated again until Monday.

I hope this does not cause undue inconvenience.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Clerk of the Court

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:02:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Burial.

I am burying one Bonus Vote and A$100 as treasure with the following map:

This treasure will be found by the player who posts a public message
containing the phrase "This one is TRUE." with one of the following sets
of characters:

Either:

iQCVAwUBNhJDlIpTijFJnAv5AQHvGAP6A08u1sNrg6eReQZ5Xvvx/JKxTyudZMKc
uJPQmxquL2xlW6oGy3DzjQyNYx3pu3oP0vtFbBZe0lWrHPsb+fFHVZGmBYDKMgnS
v+fh3AfVCD+cd6NTPWCienq3mHYsrWpxEf/bZystD4bLWP5DrzKnk6LVW+aTtdR6
j+q1QpiRMx4=
=faEY

or,

iQCVAwUBNhJD64pTijFJnAv5AQE9NAP+M+D0ObfXSPEvs5pJfARZI3N0PTTPdZX7
g2nk+YLq3YxqmUH+3I3xDUOVWJFi+xi0rmp6Y49V5CVZKYYSOazAj+AqK3jwQOM1
pNCZTw33hAv/NZoCM/CjqxZXyYB5DRYZLais9+Br4ygEEyk9/bv2NgXEVZ1S5nP8
GJqVskS887c=
=6ioO

If any player posts a message with the incorrect answer, the map for this
treasure will immeadiately morph into another of IdiotBoy's design.

IB

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:56:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Gingham Telegraph

Duncan Richer wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:
>
> > Editorial
> >
> > It has been almost two months now since proposal 3333 passed to remove
> > annti-voting from Ackanomic and now seems a good time to analyse what
> > effect this hhas had. Many of the advocates of anti-voting would claim
> > that it's removal has not had the desired effect, pointing out as
> > evidence the fact that a recent proposal to give Studge a cycle win
> > nearly passed. Indeed, we at the Ackan will acknowledge that, on the
> > surface, there does not appear to be much change in voting patterns.
>
> I would like this last statement to be retracted, on the grounds that you
> are not "we at the Ackan".  Only my editorial staff are "we at the Ackan".

I retract the statement Slakko asked me to retract even though it is not in my
opinion a false statement, merely a load of rubbish. I point out that I did in
fact mean "we at the Telegraph". I ten give A$5 to thw twits and offer A$5 to
Slakko in recompense for soiling the good name of his newspaper.

Rambo R Minuteman/

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:00:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Duncan C. \"Slakko\" Richer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Gingham Telegraph

On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> 
> 
> Duncan Richer wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:
> >
> > > Editorial
> > >
> > > It has been almost two months now since proposal 3333 passed to remove
> > > annti-voting from Ackanomic and now seems a good time to analyse what
> > > effect this hhas had. Many of the advocates of anti-voting would claim
> > > that it's removal has not had the desired effect, pointing out as
> > > evidence the fact that a recent proposal to give Studge a cycle win
> > > nearly passed. Indeed, we at the Ackan will acknowledge that, on the
> > > surface, there does not appear to be much change in voting patterns.
> >
> > I would like this last statement to be retracted, on the grounds that you
> > are not "we at the Ackan".  Only my editorial staff are "we at the Ackan".
> 
> I retract the statement Slakko asked me to retract even though it is not in my
> opinion a false statement, merely a load of rubbish. I point out that I did in
> fact mean "we at the Telegraph". I ten give A$5 to thw twits and offer A$5 to
> Slakko in recompense for soiling the good name of his newspaper.

What good name?

I'll take the money, though. :-)

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Clerk of the Court

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:45:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Another Worker

Altra the FireCat when he left newbiehood at the end of the day yesterday
was inducted into the Worker Caste in a private quiet ceremony attended
only by a few family and friends.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Determination of Otzma Card determination type

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# Let's see if we should do probabalistic or random determination
# 1 = Probabalistic
# 2 = Deterministic

No. of sides on every die:      2
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:   15
No. of rolls per line:         15

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> Subject: Acka: Otzma Cards
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> #C Let's see if we should do probabalistic or random determination
> 
> #P [email-masked]
> #S 2
> #D 1
> #R 15
> #L 15
> #T Acka: Determination of Otzma Card determination type
> 
> #C 1 = Probabalistic
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> 
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:51:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Arcane Lore Probablistic Otzma Card determination

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# This is determining the Probabalistic Otzma Cards for the Otzma Day
# I will use the first 7 valid numbers out of the 20 generated such that
# no instance limits are broken.
# The determination is made according to the following table.
#  1-3     Go Fish              (normal)        (at max instance)
#  4-6     Map Shard            (normal)
#  7-7     Summon Tornado       (rare)          (at max instance)
#  8-10   Share My Expenses     (normal)
# 11-13   Share Your Income     (normal)
# 14-16   Swinging Sale (normal)        (at max instance)
# 17-19   Tactical Retreat      (normal)        (at max instance)
# 20-22   Paratroop             (normal)
# 23-25   Foul Fowl             (normal)        (at max instance)
# 26-28   Truthseeker           (normal)
# 29-31   Fix My Gadget (normal)        (at max instance)
# 32-34   Art Thief             (normal)
# 35-37   Skeleton Key          (normal)        (at max instance)
# 38-40   Artic Explorer        (normal)
# 41-43   Lay Off!              (normal)
# 44-44   Founder's Boon        (rare)
# 45-47   Roulette Wheel        (normal)
# 48-50   Training Regime       (normal)
# 51-53   Shield                (normal)
# 54-56   ACME InstaGadget      (normal)
# 57-59   Felicitous Populi     (normal)
# 60-60   Enslavement          (rare)

No. of sides on every die:     60
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:   20
No. of rolls per line:         20

     19     31      7     24      2     14     35     20     49      3     24     16     13     43     12      3      5     26     55     58

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> From: JT <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Acka: Otzma
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> #P [email-masked]
> #T Acka: Arcane Lore Probablistic Otzma Card determination
> #S 60 
> #D 1
> #R 20
> #L 20
> 
> #C This is determining the Probabalistic Otzma Cards for the Otzma Day
> #C I will use the first 7 valid numbers out of the 20 generated such that
> #C no instance limits are broken.
> #C
> #C The determination is made according to the following table.
> #C
> #C  1-3          Go Fish              (normal)        (at max instance)
> #C  4-6          Map Shard            (normal)
> #C  7-7          Summon Tornado       (rare)          (at max instance)
> #C  8-10   Share My Expenses  (normal)
> #C 11-13   Share Your Income  (normal)
> #C 14-16   Swinging Sale      (normal)        (at max instance)
> #C 17-19   Tactical Retreat   (normal)        (at max instance)
> #C 20-22   Paratroop          (normal)
> #C 23-25   Foul Fowl          (normal)        (at max instance)
> #C 26-28   Truthseeker                (normal)
> #C 29-31   Fix My Gadget      (normal)        (at max instance)
> #C 32-34   Art Thief          (normal)
> #C 35-37   Skeleton Key               (normal)        (at max instance)
> #C 38-40   Artic Explorer     (normal)
> #C 41-43   Lay Off!           (normal)
> #C 44-44   Founder's Boon     (rare)
> #C 45-47   Roulette Wheel     (normal)
> #C 48-50   Training Regime    (normal)
> #C 51-53   Shield             (normal)
> #C 54-56   ACME InstaGadget   (normal)
> #C 57-59   Felicitous Populi  (normal)
> #C 60-60   Enslavement          (rare)
> 
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:08:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Otzma Cards

The following 7 Cards were created via the Probabalistic method

Otzma Card of type Paratroop.
Otzma Card of type Training Regime
Otzma Card of type Share Your Income
Otzma Card of type Lay Off!
Otzma Card of type Share Your Income
Otzma Card of type Map Shard
Otzma Card of type Truthseeker.

I am creating the following 8 cards via the Deterministic Method.
Otzma Card of type Enslavement
Otzma Card of type Training Regime (2)
Otzma Card of type Roulette Wheel
Otzma Card of type Arctic Explorer (2)
Otzma Card of type Paratroop
Otzma Card of type Share My Expenses
Otzma Card of type ACME InstaGadget.

There are no Otzma Cards in the treasury.

Thus the following cards are up for public auction.
2 Otzma Cards of type Paratroop  (minimum bid A$0)
3 Otzma Cards of type Training Regime (minimum bid A$0)
2 Otzma Cards of type Share Your Income (minimum bid A$0)
1 Otzma Card of type Lay Off! (minimum bid A$0)
1 Otzma Card of type Map Shard (minimum bid A$0)
1 Otzma Card of type Truthseeker (minimum bid A$0)
1 Otzma Card of type Enslavement (minimum bid A$0)
1 Otzma Card of type Roulette Wheel (minimum bid A$0)
2 Otzma Cards of type Arctic Explorer (minimum bid A$0)
1 Otzma Card of type Share My Expenses (minimum bid A$0)
1 Otzma Card of type ACME InstaGadget (minimum bid A$0)

Please remember that you are bidding on only one of the cards in each
group and that the X highest bidders will each get one card of that type.

Bidding may now commence.

- --JT, Runemaker

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:13:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Chorging away

I read page 4 of the older of the two SBoC's in my possession
I read page 1 of the other SBoC in my possession.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:23:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma Cards

JT wrote:

> Thus the following cards are up for public auction.
> 2 Otzma Cards of type Paratroop  (minimum bid A$0)
> 3 Otzma Cards of type Training Regime (minimum bid A$0)
> 2 Otzma Cards of type Share Your Income (minimum bid A$0)
> 1 Otzma Card of type Lay Off! (minimum bid A$0)
> 1 Otzma Card of type Map Shard (minimum bid A$0)
> 1 Otzma Card of type Truthseeker (minimum bid A$0)
> 1 Otzma Card of type Enslavement (minimum bid A$0)
> 1 Otzma Card of type Roulette Wheel (minimum bid A$0)
> 2 Otzma Cards of type Arctic Explorer (minimum bid A$0)
> 1 Otzma Card of type Share My Expenses (minimum bid A$0)
> 1 Otzma Card of type ACME InstaGadget (minimum bid A$0)
>
> Please remember that you are bidding on only one of the cards in each
> group and that the X highest bidders will each get one card of that type.

I make the following bids (if I haven't already been huberted :-)):

Paratroop: A$3
Training Regime: A$0
Share your income A$0
Lay Off!: A$5
Map Shard: A$0
Truthseeker: A$0
Enslavement: A$0
Roulette Wheel: A$5
Arctic Explorer: A$3
Share my Expenses: A$2
ACME Instant Gadget: A$5

Rambo.

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Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:40:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Forked Tongue

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# readings)
#  1 -  25 The tongue worked.
# 26 - 100 The tongue did not work and the determination is random.

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> From: JT <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Acka: Tongue
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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 100
> #D 1
> #R 2
> #L 2
> #T Acka: Forked Tongue
> 
> #C Player: JT
> #C This player has a forked tongue and read a Spell Book of Chorg or
> #C some small number of pages from the ackanomicon  (two times for two
> #C readings)
> #C
> #C  1 -  25 The tongue worked.
> #C 26 - 100 The tongue did not work and the determination is random.
> 
> 
> [-------------------------------------------------------------------------]
> [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.                  ]
> [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:45:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Forked Tongue

On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Dice server wrote:
>Dice rolls requested by: JT <[email-masked]>
>Rolls also sent to:
>    [email-masked]
>
># Player: JT
># This player has a forked tongue and read a Spell Book of Chorg or
># some small number of pages from the ackanomicon  (two times for two
># readings)
>#  1 -  25 The tongue worked.
># 26 - 100 The tongue did not work and the determination is random.
>
>No. of sides on every die:    100
>No. of dice for every roll:     1
>No. of dice rolls requested:    2
>No. of rolls per line:          2
>
>     23     43

I donate A$1 to the twits and note that my readings were not correctly 
specified.

I then read page 4 of my first Spellbook of Chorg which disappears in a
flash of holy light and a smell sort of like frankincense.

I then read page 1 of my second Spellbook of Chorg which disappears in a
puff of silver and purple smoke which looks sort of like a dragon, but not
quite.

I then donate another A$1 to the twits (since there were two books I read
that worked incorrectly)

- --JT

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[ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.                  ]
[ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:49:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Forked Tongue

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# This player has a forked tongue and read a Spell Book of Chorg or
# some small number of pages from the ackanomicon.   He read two
# different spell books, so the first roll is for the first book (page 4)
# and the second roll is for the second book (page 1)
#  1 -  25 The tongue worked.
# 26 - 100 The tongue did not work and the determination is random.

No. of sides on every die:    100
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No. of dice rolls requested:    2
No. of rolls per line:          2

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> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:48:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: JT <[email-masked]>
> To: Dice Server <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Acka: Tongue
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 100
> #D 1
> #R 2
> #L 2
> #T Acka: Forked Tongue
> 
> #C Player: JT
> #C This player has a forked tongue and read a Spell Book of Chorg or
> #C some small number of pages from the ackanomicon.   He read two
> #C different spell books, so the first roll is for the first book (page 4)
> #C and the second roll is for the second book (page 1)
> #C
> #C  1 -  25 The tongue worked.
> #C 26 - 100 The tongue did not work and the determination is random.
> 
> 
> [-------------------------------------------------------------------------]
> [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.                  ]
> [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
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> 

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:54:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: SBoC Random Otzma Card determination

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# Player: JT
# This is determining the Otzma Card aquired for reading a page in
# A Spellbook of Chorg.
# He read two books, so the first value is for the first book (page 4)
# and the second value is for the second book (page 1)
# The determination is made according to the following table
# A value of - means that card cannot be selected for some reason.
#  -    Go Fish                 (at max instance)
#  1    Map Shard
#  -    Summon Tornado          (at max instance)
#  2    Share My Expenses
#  3    Share Your Income
#  -    Swinging Sale           (at max instance)
#  -    Tactical Retreat        (at max instance)
#  4    Paratroop
#  -    Foul Fowl               (at max instance)
#  5    Truthseeker
#  -    Fix My Gadget           (at max instance)
#  6    Art Thief
#  -    Skeleton Key            (at max instance)
#  7    Artic Explorer
#  8    Lay Off!
#  9    Founder's Boon
# 10    Roulette Wheel
# 11    Training Regime
# 12    Shield
# 13    ACME InstaGadget
# 14    Felicitous Populi
# 15   Enslavement

No. of sides on every die:     15
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    2
No. of rolls per line:          2

     11      8

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> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:53:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: JT <[email-masked]>
> To: Dice Server <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Acka: Otzma
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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> #P [email-masked]
> #T Acka: SBoC Random Otzma Card determination
> #S 15
> #D 1
> #R 2
> #L 2
> 
> #C Player: JT
> #C This is determining the Otzma Card aquired for reading a page in
> #C A Spellbook of Chorg.
> #C He read two books, so the first value is for the first book (page 4)
> #C and the second value is for the second book (page 1)
> 
> #C The determination is made according to the following table
> #C A value of - means that card cannot be selected for some reason.
> #C
> #C  - Go Fish                 (at max instance)
> #C  1 Map Shard
> #C  - Summon Tornado          (at max instance)
> #C  2 Share My Expenses
> #C  3 Share Your Income
> #C  - Swinging Sale           (at max instance)
> #C  - Tactical Retreat        (at max instance)
> #C  4 Paratroop
> #C  - Foul Fowl               (at max instance)
> #C  5 Truthseeker
> #C  - Fix My Gadget           (at max instance)
> #C  6 Art Thief
> #C  - Skeleton Key            (at max instance)
> #C  7 Artic Explorer
> #C  8 Lay Off!
> #C  9 Founder's Boon
> #C 10 Roulette Wheel
> #C 11 Training Regime
> #C 12 Shield
> #C 13 ACME InstaGadget
> #C 14 Felicitous Populi
> #C 15   Enslavement
> 
> 
> [-------------------------------------------------------------------------]
> [ Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.                  ]
> [ It's hard to seize the day when you must first grapple with the morning ]
> [-------------------------------------------------------------------------]
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:46:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: JOHN A CULBERTSON <[email-masked]>
Subject: ACKA: bad news

hey.

um, i have bad news.  i need to withdraw from acka.  i'm afraid that (at
least, this semester) i don't have the time that i would like to devote to
ackanomic.  it's not fair to me to keep playing in the half-assed way that
i have been, and it's not fair to acka, because it's a great game and
deserves a better player.  hopefully next semester will not be so hectic,
or maybe i will be able to handle it better, or something.  so, i guess
i'll just say goodbye.

please give my shotgun attachment to slakko (he asked for it, i think)
and give everything else to yourself, as compensation for doing your job
well.

um, finally, thanks for being so helpful.  i'm sure that i will be back,    
marsboy
john culbertson

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:03:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Randy Hall <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 665 (1-FALSE) (TEFKATSC)

> Weishaupt has appealed.  This goes to The Entity Formerly Known as the
> Supreme Court.
> 
> Call for Judgement 665 - September 14, 1998

Someone in the CFJ's history's reasoning:

> As the unitless case (i.e. radians) is perfectly well defined (i.e.
> the sine of a number is itself defined), I see no need to interpret 
> the hat to admit any other kind of unit. 

I'll admit that I did not read every post in the debate on degrees,
radians, etc. when this was being batted around a couple of weeks ago.

If anyone has any comments or arguments on this matter (for or against)
that they can distill down to a more lucid argument than has been posted
previously, and is *not* redundant with what is already in the official
CFJ record, feel free to e-mail such arguments to me privately or to the
list (I'd rather it be private, because I don't want to see another 
debate ...).  I do not have time to look at this tonight anyway.  Also,
I will ignore arguments presented on IRC, should I happen to be lurking 
there later :-)

saaremaa
Justice

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