Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #327
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ackanomic digest      Sunday, September 20 1998      Volume 03 : Number 327

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 00:03:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Great Raft (marsboy)

Rafting trip anyone.

K 2
doesn't have the oars or the raft.

JT wrote:

> Marsboy has found the Great Raft of Ackanomic.
>
> The rafting trip did not occur since Rex Mundi didn't agree and he has the
> Oars.
>
> --JT
>
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 00:33:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 659

Talking with Saaremaa on IRC tonight managed to convince me that I had in
fact returned an erroneous verdict on CFJ 659 but not for the exact
reasons given by Saaremaa's arguments in the appeal.

Therefore, I do ask that the Supreme Cortex deliberating on this CFJ
overturn my verdict of FALSE to one of TRUE and treat me lightly in so
doing, as I was attempting to do my best.

My reason for not judging it Invalid as Saaremaa had indicated that he
thought I should were that the statement was judgeable as either true or
false and I do not believe in returning a verdict of invalid unless the
CFJ itself (ie the statement to be judged) fits those qualifications,
which the one in question did not.

Instead, I initially saw it as asking *IF* it would be legal within the
rules for such a quotation to be judged as literature.   In my arguments,
I failed to notice that the Scorekeeper was the final arbiter of that
judgement, and therefore, if there was any condition under which a
scorekeeper might judge such a quote to be literature than the statement
was trivially true.

Instead, I attempted to judge it as if *I* was the scorekeeper and ignored
the meta question focusing instead on the details of that specific
hypothetical citation.

Upon reflection and thought and discussion, I believe my prior judgement
was in error and that the Supreme Cortex seeing this CFJ will overturn the
judgement and correct the error appropriately.

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 00:38:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Great Raft (marsboy)

K 2 wrote:
>Rafting trip anyone.
>
>K 2
>doesn't have the oars or the raft.

I'm up for it and I can row.

We need:

Marsboy with Great Raft.
And Rex Mundi with the Oars.

Studge

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 00:45:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: treasure

I bury all my tradable entities as treasure.  Map forthcoming.

rufus

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 01:04:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 659

> Upon reflection and thought and discussion, I believe my prior judgement
> was in error and that the Supreme Cortex seeing this CFJ will overturn the
> judgement and correct the error appropriately.

I'm still waiting for a reply from my Cortex-mate(since I believe that
CCC is judging this one...).  Only having been part of one Supreme Court
deliberation(as Praetor), how long can one wait before going ahead and
delivering a unilateral verdict?  :-)

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:15:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Auction Em entities

This has finished. I get the wooly sweater for A$0.

K 2

I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.

K 2

K 2 wrote:

> I'm starting an auction on the Wool Sweater in the treasury.
>
> K 2

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:15:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 662 (TRUE)

Duncan Richer wrote:

> marsboy has judged this TRUE.
>
> Call for Judgement 662 - September 12, 1998
> Subject: Illegal Brie Acquisition
> Initiator: Weishaupt (sent 12 Sep 1998, 07:59 Acka)
> Judge: marsboy (selected 12 Sep 1998, 08:58 Acka)
> Judgement: TRUE
>
> Statement:
> Weishaupt has a Brie
>
> Reasoning:
> K 2 awarded me a brie when I joined.

I am appealing this CFJ with the PLONK delimited text:
PLONK
The financier doesn't have the power to award a Brie only rule 611 has ever had
that power.

>From rule 701:
[pragmatism clause] ... " The preceding does not apply to the case of events
which occur automatically, but whose occurrence is not (or erroneously)
reported [e.g., loss of the Great Trombone]."

Brie awards are/were automatic thus the pragmatism clause does not apply.
PLONK

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:15:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 174 (TRUE)

I am appealing this verdict with the following PLONK delimited text (I knew
my days as Caped Crusader would come back and haunt me):

>Robin Hood has judged this TRUE.
>Penalty to K 2 is a fine of A$1.
>
>Call for Criminal Judgement 174 - September 12, 1998
>Subject: Malpracticing Financier
>Initiator: Weishaupt (sent 12 Sep 1998, 08:12 Acka)
>Judge: Robin Hood (selected 12 Sep 1998, 09:00 Acka)
>Judgement: TRUE

PLONK
>From rule 701: "The act of performing a Duty incorrectly is the Crime of
Malpractice."
>From rule 412:
"
The Duties of the Financier are:

a) To maintain accurate records of the who owns each ownable entity, what
each Player owns, and what each named non-Player
entity [such as the Treasury or the Chartreuse Goose] owns.

b) To log (or collate logs made by other officers) all transfers of entity
ownership and the creation and destruction of entities, and
to verify that these events happen only in accordance with the Rules.

c) To make the records and logs available to any Player upon request.

d) To maintain the Free Market (FM), and to verify any transaction made
there was made in accordance with the rules.
"

Since no player has requested the entity transfer log according to c) no
player (aside from myself) is in any position to determine if a breach of a)
has occurred. Since the pe page is unregulated it is permissible for it to
have any content I choose <power trip> :). While it usually represents *The
Truth* maybe in this case it didn't? No one asked so only I can tell.

As the most damning evidence that I didn't do it I present rule 401.x :
"
Officers have 3 days to complete the tasks and duties they are responsible
for, not counting any time the officer is vacationing or
in Gaol, unless other rules unambiguously specify a different finite amount
of time for these things.
"
On 28/08/1998  3:52:29 Weishaupt joined the game, I had three days to harf
eir ownership of A$900 and a trinket (duty 402.a), thus on Aug 28 I was not
committing Malpractice. If it occurred it occurred 3 days later. This CFCJ
is definitely (first player to say trivially gets a sound thwaping) FALSE.

PLONK

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:46:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Chorg Stuff

I direct that the church of the book build a Spell Book of Chorg in JT's
possession.
I read from my book of chorg. (page 4) which dissolves in the most
intence of holy lights.
I go to the library and visit *that* room.

K 2

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:01:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 174 (TRUE)

trivially

rufus

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:14:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 174 (TRUE)

I create 43 trinkets worth A$1 each with the name "sound thwaping,
variation x" were x is replaced with a number between 1 and 43 so as to
give a unique name. These trinkets have the following description : "one
of a infinite variety of possible sound thwapings. This one is
particularly novel in both implementation and scope."

I gift a sound thwaping, variation 12 to rufus.

K 2

David Scheidt wrote:

> trivially
>
> rufus

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:34:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Great Raft (marsboy)

Mueller wrote:

> K 2 wrote:
> >Rafting trip anyone.
> >
> >K Hubert 2
> >doesn't have the oars or the raft.
>
> I'm up for it and I can row.

in other words everyone who has the sya in who goes and who stays.

> We need:

> Marsboy with Great Raft.
> And Rex Mundi with the Oars.
>
> Studge

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:34:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: JOHN A CULBERTSON <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Great Raft (marsboy)

...

raftin' sounds great.  i'll bring the (great) raft.

marsboy

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:57:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, K 2 wrote:
>This has finished. I get the wooly sweater for A$0.
>
>K 2
>
>I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.

I will bid A$1.

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:11:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 662 (TRUE)

> > Judgement: TRUE

> > Statement:
> > Weishaupt has a Brie

> > Reasoning:
> > K 2 awarded me a brie when I joined.

> I am appealing this CFJ with the PLONK delimited text:
> PLONK
> The financier doesn't have the power to award a Brie only rule 611 has ever had
> that power.

> >From rule 701:
> [pragmatism clause] ... " The preceding does not apply to the case of events
> which occur automatically, but whose occurrence is not (or erroneously)
> reported [e.g., loss of the Great Trombone]."

> Brie awards are/were automatic thus the pragmatism clause does not apply.
> PLONK

I would like to point out here that K 2's appeal seems to be addressing
the reasoning, and not the statement.  Whether K 2 emself awarded the
Brie to Weishaupt is irrelevant to the statement.

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:17:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

> >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
> 
> I will bid A$1.
> 
> --JT

IB bids A$2.

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:25:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Ackanomicon Determination

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# 39 - 40 Long Lost Treasure
# 41 - 41 Forbidden Fruit
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:26:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

Matt Miller wrote:

> > >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
> >
> > I will bid A$1.

> IB bids A$2.

And I shall make a bid of A$3.

MTM.

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:26:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Forked Tongue

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# 26 - 100 The tongue did not work and the determination is random.

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:29:07 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Acka: SBoC Random Otzma Card determination

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# 10    Lay Off!
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# 13    Training Regime
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# 15    ACME InstaGadget
# 16    Felicitous Populi
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:29:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Matt Miller wrote:
>> >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
>> 
>> I will bid A$1.
>> 
>> --JT
>
>IB bids A$2.

Ah heck.. it's worth A$5 to me :)

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:37:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The end of an era

Weishaupt ceased to be a newbie yesterday, and was made a member of the
Worker Caste.

- --JT, OiCoRT

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:55:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ping*

Today is Sunday, the 20th day of September, and the Machine That Goes
*ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
gone *ping* 8 times.

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:14:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

JT wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Matt Miller wrote:
>>> >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
>>> 
>>> I will bid A$1.
>>> 
>>> --JT
>>
>>IB bids A$2.
>
>Ah heck.. it's worth A$5 to me :)

Studge bids A$6

Studge (engaged in a furious low-stakes game of chicken)

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:15:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The end of an era

JT wrote:
>Weishaupt ceased to be a newbie yesterday, and was made a member of the
>Worker Caste.
>

Hail fellow Worker, may your industrious nature put to shame the lazier
Castes!

Studge, Worker

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:26:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Great Raft (marsboy)

>Marsboy with Great Raft.
>And Rex Mundi with the Oars.
>
>Studge
>
OK, I'm up for some rafting.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:31:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Micah Smukler)
Subject: Acka: hat juggling I

I cause Hat 15 to be known as Firsty to plain folks.
I cause Hat 16 to be known as Clown-Like to plain folks.
I cause Hat 17 to be known as Clown-Like to plain folks.

These actions are unregulated; therefore, they occur.

I wear Hat 17.  Its text is:

It is publicly knowable that the Agenda Hat known as Clown-Like to
plain folks became false in the last week while at the same time this hat,
known as Clown-Like to plain folks, was publicly known to be worn.

It remains false.

I remove Hat 15.  It becomes false.

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:50:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:
>>>> >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
>>>> I will bid A$1.
>Studge bids A$6

Aw shucks.. A$10 :)

- --JT, always wanted to own Internomic :)

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:05:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

JT wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:
>>>>> >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
>>>>> I will bid A$1.
>>Studge bids A$6
>
>Aw shucks.. A$10 :)
>
>--JT, always wanted to own Internomic :)

A$11

Studge (master of petty squabbles)

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:13:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Great Raft (marsboy)

Rex Mundi wrote:
>>Marsboy with Great Raft.
>>And Rex Mundi with the Oars.
>>
>>Studge
>>
>OK, I'm up for some rafting.
>
>Rex Mundi.

We've got a rafting trip then.

Rex w/ the oars, Marsboy w/ the raft, Studge and K 2 w/ nothing but their
indomitable wills.

Studge

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:14:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:
>JT wrote:
>>On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
>>>>>> I will bid A$1.
>>>Studge bids A$6
>>
>>Aw shucks.. A$10 :)
>>
>>--JT, always wanted to own Internomic :)
>
>A$11

Ahhh.. A$20 and that's that :)

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:21:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, JT wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:
> >JT wrote:
> >>On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:
> >>>>>> >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
> >>>>>> I will bid A$1.
> >>>Studge bids A$6
> >>
> >>Aw shucks.. A$10 :)
> >>
> >>--JT, always wanted to own Internomic :)
> >
> >A$11
> 
> Ahhh.. A$20 and that's that :)
> 
> --JT

I bid A$20.1

Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:26:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Rafting Trip

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:31:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

JT wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:
>>JT wrote:
>>>On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:
>>>>>>> >I am starting an auction em entities on Internomic minimum bid A$0.
>>>>>>> I will bid A$1.
>>>>Studge bids A$6
>>>
>>>Aw shucks.. A$10 :)
>>>
>>>--JT, always wanted to own Internomic :)
>>
>>A$11
>
>Ahhh.. A$20 and that's that :)
>

A$21

That's the great thing about arguments involving the counting numbers,
there is always an easy answer.

Studge

PS What exactly are we bidding on anyways?

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:31:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Em entities

On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:
>> Ahhh.. A$20 and that's that :)
>> 
>> --JT
>
>
>I bid A$20.1

and we all sneer at Vynd because this isn't a legal bid :)

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:32:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Probabilistic Boon of the Ancients

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#  46 -  70     Ancient Scroll (Otzma Card)
#  71 -  80     Gods Smile (Bonus Vote) 
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#  88 -  92     Ancient Knowledge (Discovery - Must Describe)
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#  98 -  99     Gods are Bored (Pointy Ears)
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:37:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Probabilistic Gadget

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#  2    - Really Big Blue Thing
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#  4    - Vending Machine
#  5    - Automatic Sculpture
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#  8    - Jukkasjarvi Mind Control Laser
#  9    - Spell Book of Chorg
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# 12    - Gimme Shelter
# 13    - Cheez-Whiz
# 14    - Pulse Laser
# 15    - Silver Spaceship
# 16    - BWG Laser
# 17    - Butler
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# 21    - Finger of Justice
# 22    - Transtemporal Holographic Image Recording Device
# 23    - Saaremaa's Codex of Wizardry
# 24    - Guardian Angel
# 25    - Highlander's Sword

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> #C It was determined by the following schedule
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> #C  2 - Really Big Blue Thing
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> #C  4 - Vending Machine
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> #C  6 - Gravitational Monopole
> #C  7 - Evil Ballot Stuffer
> #C  8 - Jukkasjarvi Mind Control Laser
> #C  9 - Spell Book of Chorg
> #C 10 - Plunky Monkey Wrench
> #C 11 - Bonus Vote Add-On
> #C 12 - Gimme Shelter
> #C 13 - Cheez-Whiz
> #C 14 - Pulse Laser
> #C 15 - Silver Spaceship
> #C 16 - BWG Laser
> #C 17 - Butler
> #C 18 - Pyraic Frobnotzer
> #C 19 - BWG Laser Shotgun Attachment
> #C 20 - Good Ballot Stuffer
> #C 21 - Finger of Justice
> #C 22 - Transtemporal Holographic Image Recording Device
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