Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #325
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ackanomic digest      Friday, September 18 1998      Volume 03 : Number 325

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:35:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Bounty hunting

I create a trinket out of A$ 75 named "I Bagged A Swinger" with the
description "Awarded to the Chess Extraordinare who cleaned up the party
board a bit."

I bury this trinket as a treasure with the map: "This treasure will be
found by the first Swinger who causes some Swinger to not have pieces on
the board such that the GOP Swinger is able to, or (in case something
causes this to be impossible) the first player the GOP says found it."

This is the whole map (no tricks this time).

Studge

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:15:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFCJ 174 (TRUE)

Robin Hood has judged this TRUE.
Penalty to K 2 is a fine of A$1.

Call for Criminal Judgement 174 - September 12, 1998
Subject: Malpracticing Financier
Initiator: Weishaupt (sent 12 Sep 1998, 08:12 Acka)
Judge: Robin Hood (selected 12 Sep 1998, 09:00 Acka)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement: 
K 2 committed the Crime of Malpractice on Aug 28

Reasoning: 
This is only true if I have a brie.  When I joined, no method of
gaining Bries was defined in the rules.  Assuming I do have a Brie, K 2
performed his duty as financier incorrectly.  According to rule 701,

The act of performing a Duty incorrectly is the Crime of Malpractice. 

Suggested Penalty:

Transferrence of A$100 to Weishaupt for confusion, consternation, guilt,
and psychological trauma
Public Apology of at least 2 lines

Judge's Reasoning:
(none)

Actual Penalty:
A FINE of A$1.

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:52:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael Pizolato" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Rafting Ho!

Let's go rafting! Oarsman, bring yer oars! Others, bring anything you want
except Meryl Streep!

Piz

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:57:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Rafting Ho!

At 08:52 AM 9/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Let's go rafting! Oarsman, bring yer oars! Others, bring anything you want
>except Meryl Streep!
>
>Piz

Hear Here!

I bring no tools, but I can row.

Studge

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:27:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Rafting Ho!

On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Michael Pizolato wrote:

> Let's go rafting! Oarsman, bring yer oars! Others, bring anything you want
> except Meryl Streep!
> 
> Piz
> 

Oh me, me!

IB

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:47:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: [none]

> The King James Bible is also a bad translation. Granted, it may be a
> classical work of English literature, but that has no bearing of its
> quality as a translation.
> Niccolo Flychuck

 I agree - but it does have it's text in the public domain.

 I personally use the NIV, but the REB is a better translation - I just
don't have a copy.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:58:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: This Email Address Buisness

Well I guess mine'd be [email-masked]
If it won't accept . then _ will do.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:06:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:

I think I now have 4 Swingpoints.
I convert 4 Swingpoints into one Bonus Vote.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:16:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 666 (JT)

JT has been selected.

Call for Judgement 666 - September 18, 1998
Subject: Biblical PWCFJ
Initiator: Wild Card (sent Sep 18 1998, 10:50 Acka)
Judge: JT
Judgement:

Statement:

It is currently equally legal and illegal for a quote from a book in what
I will call the "Apocropha" to be literature.

Reasoning:

The Apocropha is deemed by some to be part of the Old Testament of the
Bible, by others not.

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:24:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: CFJ 666 (JT)

What an auspicious number for this CFJ :)

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Duncan Richer [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Friday, September 18, 1998 10:17 AM
>To:	Ackanomic Main Mailing List
>Subject:	Acka: CFJ 666 (JT)
>
>JT has been selected.
>
>Call for Judgement 666 - September 18, 1998
>Subject: Biblical PWCFJ
>Initiator: Wild Card (sent Sep 18 1998, 10:50 Acka)
>Judge: JT
>Judgement:
>
>Statement:
>
>It is currently equally legal and illegal for a quote from a book in what
>I will call the "Apocropha" to be literature.
>

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:51:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 666 (JT)

On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>JT has been selected.
>
>Call for Judgement 666 - September 18, 1998
                    ^^^
>Subject: Biblical PWCFJ
          ^^^^^^^^

How..... appropriate.. (why do I keep getting the literature CFJs? :)

I'll rule on this shortly (once I have time to check my initial thoughts
against past CFJs, but my initial thoughts tend to a verdict of FALSE
since while it might be indeterminate whether it is legal or not, it is
not both at the same time which is what would be required for paradox.

I know this has been covered in CFJ before, and thus wish to make sure
that that reasoning applies.   I might even attempt to determine whether
or not the Apocrypha would be considered literature and support that as
well.   However, if that question is answerable (and I think it is) then
again it is either legal or illegal, and thus this CFJ will be false.

However, as I said, these are initial thoughts only and I will do this in
greater depth in a little while.

- --JT

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:55:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:

On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:

> I think I now have 4 Swingpoints.
> I convert 4 Swingpoints into one Bonus Vote.
> 

I convert 4 Swingpoints into one Bonus Vote.

IB

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:18:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:

On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Matt Miller wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
> 
> > I think I now have 4 Swingpoints.
> > I convert 4 Swingpoints into one Bonus Vote.
> > 
> 
> I convert 4 Swingpoints into one Bonus Vote.

This fails, as your last Swingpoints -> Bonus Vote conversion was in a
message dated:

Sat, 05 Sep 1998 09:49:42 -0400

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:52:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Dammit

I take each of my 2000 non-entities listed on the P/E page and thwap K 2
with each of them 2000 times.
I then destroy these 2000 non-entities.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:32:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ping* (*pong*)

Today is Friday, the 18th day of September, and the Machine That Goes
*ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
gone *ping* 7 times.

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:50:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 662 (TRUE)

marsboy has judged this TRUE.

Call for Judgement 662 - September 12, 1998
Subject: Illegal Brie Acquisition
Initiator: Weishaupt (sent 12 Sep 1998, 07:59 Acka)
Judge: marsboy (selected 12 Sep 1998, 08:58 Acka)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement: 
Weishaupt has a Brie

Reasoning: 
K 2 awarded me a brie when I joined.
Because how to gain a brie was not defined in the rules at that time, this
was either an illegal or an impossible action.
Therefore by the clause in rule 701 which states
If, however, the illegality or impossibility of a publically knowable
change to the game state goes unreported for at least 14 days, the action
or inaction which caused that change is considered legal, but it is still a
Crime. 
I do in fact have the Brie because it has been publically knowable and it
has gone unreported for 14 days.

Judge's Reasoning:
no brainer, folks.

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