Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #323
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ackanomic digest     Wednesday, September 16 1998     Volume 03 : Number 323

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:07:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 665 (Robert Sevin)

>> Hey, I've got a question -- is it considered bad game etiquette to rule on
>> a CFJ completely arbitrarily?
> 
> I can't tell etiquette from shinola, personally (*spit*).  But I'd
> say there's a fair amount of game custom that supports arbitrary
> judgements.

I must disagree strongly. See CFJ 434.

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:28:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 665 (Ethelred)

> Radians I would disagree with, but i'd live with; no units would be
> just about unbearable.

Eh? I think you've missed part of what's been said here. "Radians" and
"no units" are exactly the same thing.

Radians are "non-units", like Alfvaen pointed out - they are
meters/meters (or seconds/seconds, or grams/grams, or any such thing
you wish). Radians are used only as a convenient placeholder, to
emphasize that trig is involved.

2 + 2 = 4.
2 + 2 = 4 radians.
2 radians + 2 = 4.
2 radians + 2 radians = 4.
2 radians + 2 radians = 4 radians.

All of the above are true, and they all say the exact same thing.
Likewise, the expression "sin(2)" can be identically written as
"sin(2 radians)". (Typically one wouldn't bother to include the
"radians", since the sine function already makes it obvious that trig
is involved.) But "sin(2 degrees)" is an abbreviation for "sin(pi/90)".

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:37:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Hmmm that was odd

>I am wandering around in the library, when all of a sudden, on random
inspiration I say out loud (in a voice that almost causes the librarians to
throw me out)
>
>Haiku Premonition
>
>Does everyone else
>Feel the power in their veins
>Like I do RIGHT NOW?
>
>This feels so odd that I run from this room and go to The Vault of the
Book if I am able (maybe the ackanomicon's irresistibility will clear my
head).
>
>Studge

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:38:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: formed (GOP)

>As Pseudo-founder of the GOP I:
>
>Announce the Organization's name, Giant Old Potato,
>
>its type, Political Party,
>
>pay the standard Harfer's Fee,
>
>and announce the name of its members, Studge, Weishaupt, and Altra the
FireCat.
>
>Studge
>

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 01:13:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 665 (Ethelred)

At 12:28 AM 9/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> Radians I would disagree with, but i'd live with; no units would be
>> just about unbearable.
>
>Eh? I think you've missed part of what's been said here. "Radians" and
>"no units" are exactly the same thing.
>
>Radians are "non-units", like Alfvaen pointed out - they are
>meters/meters (or seconds/seconds, or grams/grams, or any such thing
>you wish). Radians are used only as a convenient placeholder, to
>emphasize that trig is involved.

I agree with all of this.  In fact, you made the point of the message you
were quoting right there.  Radians are used to remind us that trig is
involved.  That was *exactly* the point of the statement 

>"Radians I would disagree with, but i'd live with; no units would be 
>just about unbearable."  

The standard, english definition of a trig function is in terms of an
angle.  Only in higher-level math, which is _not_ english and, in my
opinion, should therefore not be given priority as a basis for ackan
definitions, will you have the trig function of a number without giving
that reminder-unit of radians.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 01:19:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 665 (Ethelred)

> The standard, english definition of a trig function is in terms of
> an angle.

Yes, and a unitless number IS a measurement of an angle.

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:00:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Ackanomicon Determination

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:22:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 665 (Ethelred)

breadbox wrote:
>> The standard, english definition of a trig function is in terms of
>> an angle.
>
>Yes, and a unitless number IS a measurement of an angle.

What he said.  Moreover, I submit that the "standard, [E]nglish definition
of a trig function" is in fact an aspect of mathematics, not English,
regardless of the presence of such definitions in some English
dictionaries.  To whatever extent the standard English usage custom
applies at all, it is by extension to standard mathematical usage.

ThinMan

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:09:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFCJ 175 (FALSE)

Altra the Firecat has judged this FALSE without reasoning.

Call for Criminal Judgement 175 - September 13, 1998
Subject: Counter Suing Weishaupt
Initiator: K 2 (sent Sep 13 1998, 11:08 Acka)
Judge: Altra the Firecat (selected Sep 13 1998, 12:16 Acka)
Judgement: FALSE

Statement:
Weishaupt committed the Crime of being Annoying on 12 Sep 1998.

Reasoning:
I've always thought this crime was too broad/should be unregulated, but
here it is and over there is CFCJ 174 - doesn't look very respectful to
me :)

Pseudo Penalty:
Burn em at the stake.

Suggested penalty:
Transference of A$125 to the initiator of this CFJ, a four line apology.

Judge's Reasoning:
(none)

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:12:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 654 (TRUE)

Eris has judged this TRUE.

Call for Judgement 654 - September 4, 1998
Subject: Existence of Current Government
Initiator: breadbox (sent Sep 4 1998, 12:02 Acka)
1st Judge: 404 Not Found (selected Sep 4 1998, 12:26 Acka) (deadbeat)
2nd Judge: Eris (selected Sep 11 1998, 19:03 Acka)
Judgement: TRUE 

Statement:

There is at this time no Current Government of Ackanomia.

Reasoning:

The "Current Government of Ackanomia" is regulated by Rule 320, newly
created by Proposal 3495.

Now, Rule 320 states (among other things):

  If no Government Type is Active then the Government Type Anarchy (if
  it exists) becomes Active.

and the final effect of Proposal 3495 was:

  {{The Current Government of Ackanomia is set to Democracy.}}

Okay so far. However, Rule 320 has this to say about the existence of
Government Types:

  All existing Government Types are defined by rules within this rule
  suite, and then only by rules with a name "Government Type: " where
  is replaced by a legal Ackanomic name. The name of the Government
  Type as specified in that rule shall then be. Such rules, and only
  such rules, are known as Governmental Rules.

Now, I'm still not 100% sure what effect the above has, but I'm fairly
certain that, no matter what, there is currently no Government Type of
either Democracy or Anarchy. Even if you believe that any of the rules
in the Governments Rule Suite fulfill the above requirements, the
Government Types they create are certainly not named "Democracy" or
"Anarchy". If anything, they seem to be named "" (which would be
illegal by Rule 348, but this Rule may take precedence numerically).

All of which leaves us with no Current Government of Ackanomia.

(I'm tempted to throw in some comments on the dangers of voting on a
proposal's concept while ignoring its implementation, but this is not
a soapbox.)

Judge's Reasoning:

The text which appears to be botched in proposal 3495 is: "where is replaced
by a legal Ackanomic name. The name of the Government Type as specified in
that rule shall then be." I don't believe that this text can be
unambiguously interpreted. Therefore all rules in the 320 rule suite would
have to be named "Government Type: ". In short, this would produce no
current government of Ackanomia, since type Anarchy could not exist as a
legal rule.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:47:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CSR 161

On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 [email-masked] wrote:

> In a message dated 15/09/98  14:52:51, you write:
> 
> > 
> >  I object, sorry.  I think that it's a terrible idea to limit us to those
> >  translations as literature.  Further, it's discriminatory; those Bibles
> >  will generally be the Bibles of Protestantdenominations; Catholics and
> >  Jews (nd maybe Orthodox, i'm not sure) use their own translations which
> >  should be considered as valid.  Further, these two translations aren't even
> >  definitive Protestant Bibles.  What about all the other modern
> >translations? 
> 
> True. The King James, however is recognised as a influential classic in its
> own right, comparable in its significance with shakespeare for its impact on
> the english language, and like shakespeare the source of hundreds of
> quotations.
> 
> We can choose to recognise all translations, but some of them are bad and 
> not widely available.  I'd suggest we restrict allowable literature to 
> items which are either available online, or owned by at least 5 of us.

The King James Bible is also a bad translation. Granted, it may be a
classical work of English literature, but that has no bearing of its
quality as a translation.
Niccolo Flychuck

 > 
> This should leave only a few bibles to choose from which is enough.
> 
> Robin Hood
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:27:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (I am the Water Boatman)
Subject: Acka: Buried treasure!

I create a buried treasure containing Ackanomic. The map for this treasure is:

The first person to publicly post the sine of a googolplex using radians will
find this treasure.

Ethelred

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:28:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Email addresses.

[email-masked] for which ever entity has managed to assume dictatorial control
over the game this month :)

K 2
Former Emperor of Ackanomic - As distinct from an Evil Overlord ;)

JT wrote:

> >> I think this would be a big help for a lot of offices. In addition to the
> >> ones you mentioned, I'd at least add Registrar to the list.  It would make
> >> it easier for slumbering giants like me.
>
> Please, [email-masked] and [email-masked] to point to me
> please :)
>
> I don't think the trinket harfer needs one necessarily :)
>
> --JT

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:37:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Buried treasure!

I am the Water Boatman wrote:

> I create a buried treasure containing Ackanomic. The map for this treasure is:
>
> The first person to publicly post the sine of a googolplex using radians will
> find this treasure.
>

Ackanomic it is a named? tradeble entity currently unowned (or alternatively owned
by the treasury) so this fails 'cause you don't own it - mabe next week i'll
auction em entities on it ;).

K 2

> Ethelred

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:43:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3603

Its flawed. I retract it. It being Prop 3603. To calrify - I retract
Proposal 3603

nomicbot wrote:

> Proposal 3603
> Well that'll only solve half the problem
> K 2 (Kelly Kelly)

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:07:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (I am the Water Boatman)
Subject: Re: Acka: Buried treasure!

>Ackanomic it is a named? tradeble entity currently unowned (or alternatively owned
>by the treasury) so this fails 'cause you don't own it - mabe next week i'll
>auction em entities on it ;).

I don't think you can call an auction em entities hearing on it because as far
as I can tell Ackanomic is not actually an entity, never mind whether or not it
is named, tradeable or ownable.

Ethelred

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:14:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (I am the Water Boatman)
Subject: Re: Acka: Buried treasure!

I wrote:

>I don't think you can call an auction em entities hearing on it because as far
>as I can tell Ackanomic is not actually an entity, never mind whether or not it
>is named, tradeable or ownable.

Before anyone has the chance to hose me for this, I just searched the rules and
found Rule 419 which states that Ackanomic is a named tradeable entity, owned
by the treasury.

Bah!

Ethelred

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:29:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Buried treasure!

At 05:27 AM 9/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I create a buried treasure containing Ackanomic. The map for this treasure
is:
>
>The first person to publicly post the sine of a googolplex using radians will
>find this treasure.
>
>Ethelred
> 

"the sine of a googolplex using radians"

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:37:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CSR 161

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:

> The King James Bible is also a bad translation. Granted, it may be a
> classical work of English literature, but that has no bearing of its
> quality as a translation.
> Niccolo Flychuck

I assume that by "bad" you mean that it does not faithfully convey 
the meanings in the original texts?

Or is it a "bad" translation for some other reason? We have a preacher on
our radio station who says that the KJV is the ONLY good translation into
the English language.  I don't buy that, but I didn't know that it
qualfied as bad, either.  

IB
probably should take this off list.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:43:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Buried treasure!

At 10:29 AM 9/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>At 05:27 AM 9/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>I create a buried treasure containing Ackanomic. The map for this treasure
>is:
>>
>>The first person to publicly post the sine of a googolplex using radians
will
>>find this treasure.
>>
>>Ethelred
>> 
>
>"the sine of a googolplex using radians"
> 

I don't think you're gonna get any other answer, whatever Robin Hood may
say.  I *think* you either need a bunch (ie probably about a googol)
iterations of that expansion series, or a bunch (ie probably about a
googol) of digits of pi to get an accurate estimation.  These are both
physical impossibilities; there are less than a googol elementary particles
in the universe, making it very hard indeed to perform / record / remember
that many terms.

Actually, now that I stop and think about it, you didnt ask for signicant
figures or any proof.  So you could state it as

1/(csc(googolplex)) where googolplex is measured in radians
or perhaps sqrt(2)/7 (prove me wrong)

but you're not going to get a real answer.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:46:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ping*

Today is Wednesday, the 16th day of September, and the Machine That Goes
*ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
gone *ping* 6 times.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:51:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 665 (Robert Sevin)

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Brian Raiter wrote:

> >> Hey, I've got a question -- is it considered bad game etiquette to rule on
> >> a CFJ completely arbitrarily?
> > 
> > I can't tell etiquette from shinola, personally (*spit*).  But I'd
> > say there's a fair amount of game custom that supports arbitrary
> > judgements.
> 
> I must disagree strongly. See CFJ 434.
> 
> breadbox
> 

Obviously, I am arbitrarily disregarding this CFJ.

Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:52:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

> Today is Wednesday, the 16th day of September, and the Machine That Goes
> *ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
> gone *ping* 6 times.

Pat, I'd like to buy a 'd'.
(I choose d as the magic letter.)

/dev/joe

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:58:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
>> Today is Wednesday, the 16th day of September, and the Machine That Goes
>> *ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
>> gone *ping* 6 times.
>
>Pat, I'd like to buy a 'd'.
>(I choose d as the magic letter.)

Vanna, if you please.  There are 2 'd's.

IF AND ONLY IF today *** d*** ** ********** ** ** ****** *** ****** *****d
*** **** THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:03:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Buried treasure!

Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> but you're not going to get a real answer.

"My lord, don't tell me the sine of a googleplex is complex"

"Of course it's complex you fool! If it wasn't then someone would have worked it
out!"

MTM, fond of double meanings.

- --
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http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
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Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:08:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Election Results I

In the Election for President, the votes were as follows:

    Weishaupt:
Alfvaen
Ethelred
Piz
Studge
Weishaupt

    JT:
Altra the FireCat
Aunt Froot
breadbox
/dev/joe
Eris
Fo
Fo's EBS
Fortunato
JT
JT's EBS
JT's other EBS
Niccolo Flychuck
Rex Mundi
Rex Mundi's EBS
Rig R. Mortis
ThinMan
ThinMan's EBS
Vynd

Speaker JT thus becomes Ackanomic's twelfth President. His term of
office will expire on November 11th.

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:10:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Election Results II

In the Election for Senator, seat Rebus 8-{}, the votes were as
follows:

    Aunt Froot:
Aunt Froot

   IdiotBoy:
Alfvaen
breadbox
Niccolo Flychuck

   rufus:
Fo
Fo's EBS
rufus
rufus' EBS

    Mr. Tambourine Man:
/dev/joe
Fortunato
IdiotBoy
Mr. Tambourine Man
Rig R. Mortis

    Studge:
Altra the FireCat
JT
JT's EBS
JT's other EBS
Robin Hood
Studge
Vynd
Vynd's EBS
Ethelred
Piz

Studge is thus appointed as our newest Senator.

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:13:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Election Results III

Finally, the Election for Scaremonger turned out as follows:

    JT:
Ethelred
Rig R. Mortis

    Calvin N Hobbes:
Aunt Froot
Fo
Fo's EBS
IdiotBoy
ThinMan
ThinMan's EBS

    Weishaupt:
Weishaupt
JT
JT's EBS
JT's other EBS
Vynd
Altra the FireCat

    Eris:
Alfvaen
Eris
Fortunato
Piz
Rex Mundi
Rex Mundi's EBS
Studge

Eris is appointed to the Office of Scaremonger.

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:23:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Count Tabula

With this message I hand over the reins of the Office of Count Tabula
to Fortunato, and wish him all the best in his position. ("May God
have mercy on your soul," as one Ackanomic tradition would have it
said.)

I would like to warmly thank all of the players who volunteered for
this Office. Rare is it that an unprivileged Functional Office sees
more than one or two volunteers when vacant. My unpreparedness for
having to choose between several serious candidates is why this
appointment was delayed so long. I wish all of them the best, and
encourage them to seek out other Offices.

breadbox
once again ex-Count-Tabula

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:26:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Count Tabula

Brian Raiter wrote:

> With this message I hand over the reins of the Office of Count Tabula
> to Fortunato, and wish him all the best in his position. ("May God
> have mercy on your soul," as one Ackanomic tradition would have it
> said.)

With this I now announce my intent to resign as RuneMaker and
DungeonMaster. Go for it Fortunato!

MTM.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:37:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Nominations

The offices of RuneMaker and DungeonMaster are currently vacant.  Reply
to this message to nominate yourself for either office, but *please*
make sure you specify which you are nominating yourself for.

Also, what Rule defines the duties of the DungeonMaster?  I can't seem
to find it in the Rules.

Fortunato

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:40:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Election Results I

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Brian Raiter wrote:
>In the Election for President, the votes were as follows:

[results deleted]

I would like to thank everyone who voted for me, and in keeping with my
campaign promises of a gold coin for every vote, make the following gifts.

To Altra the FireCat, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #12"
To Aunt Froot, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #13"
To breadbox, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #14"
To /dev/joe, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #15"
To Eris, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #16"
To Fo, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #17" and "Malenkai's Gold Coin #24"
To Fortunato, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #18"
To Niccolo Flychuck, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #19"
To Rex Mundi, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #20" and "Malenkai's Gold Coin #25"
To Rig R. Mortis, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #21"
To ThinMan, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #22" and "Malenkai's Gold Coin #26"
To Vynd, I give "Malenkai's Gold Coin #23"

Finally, to Weishaupt for being an honorable opponent, I give "Malenkai's
Gold Coin #57"

- --JT, with apologies to K 2 who now needs to number all the Gold Coins
since they have now been split up.

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:03:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3567 accepted

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, nomicbot wrote:
[DoppelSlakko, a harfy prop was accepted]

Wow.  Harfmeister am I :)  Now.. let's see :)
I think that 3583 was already made harfy, but just in case it wasn't,
I declare P3583 to be harfy.

I declare P3586 to be harfy just for the sheer audacity of it.

I declare P3595 to be harfy because IN22 was the one I ran :)

I declare Robert Sevin to be Funky and Stylish because of P3597 even
though I don't think it can work the way it's written :)

- --JT, Harfmeister, for at least a while :)

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:15:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3567 accepted

> I think that 3583 was already made harfy, but just in case it wasn't,
> I declare P3583 to be harfy.

To clarify: Proposal 3583 was indeed already declared harfy - it
didn't show up as such in the Proposal pages due to a stupid typo.

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:56:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Head Apollo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: just to make my entry in the pe page look "busier"

>On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:
>
>:> At first it appears to be a stick with a gold star stuck to the end with
>:> glue. If put to any use however, it instantly becomes the wrong size,
shape
>:> and consistency for the job. Sometimes it causes Windows to crash.
>:> "
>:
>:Only sometimes?
>
>It doesn't always need help.
>
>rufus
>
>

Windows Manual:

The following things may cause Windows to crash:

1) The Newbie Wand of Awesome Power
2) Electrical surges
3) Exposure of hardware to large open areas containing Oxygen, Nitrogen,
CO2.
4) Use of mouse, keyboard.
5) Switching on monitor.
6) Funny looks
7) Use of so called "software".

Eris

(having problems with Microsh*t)

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:52:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: formed (GOP)

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:

> >As Pseudo-founder of the GOP I:
> >
> >Announce the Organization's name, Giant Old Potato,
> >
> >its type, Political Party,
> >
> >pay the standard Harfer's Fee,
> >
> >and announce the name of its members, Studge, Weishaupt, and Altra the
> FireCat.
> >
> >Studge

A Swingership with attribute "Giant Old Potato" exists, and is Somewhere
Else.  The first member of the Party to say so shall become its owner, and
thereby that Party's representative at Party Chess.
The Swingership may be transferred around as an Org action.
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:00:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, JT wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
> >> Today is Wednesday, the 16th day of September, and the Machine That Goes
> >> *ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
> >> gone *ping* 6 times.
> >
> >Pat, I'd like to buy a 'd'.
> >(I choose d as the magic letter.)
> 
> Vanna, if you please.  There are 2 'd's.

There can be only one true Wheel Hostess, and it is Adriana Xenides.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:07:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, JT wrote:
>> 
>> Vanna, if you please.  There are 2 'd's.
>
>There can be only one true Wheel Hostess, and it is Adriana Xenides.

*bzzt* Vanna White is the one and only *true* WheelMeister :)

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mueller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: formed (GOP)

>A Swingership with attribute "Giant Old Potato" exists, and is Somewhere
>Else.  The first member of the Party to say so shall become its owner, and
>thereby that Party's representative at Party Chess.
>The Swingership may be transferred around as an Org action.

I say "so".

:)  Studge, founder

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:11:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, JT wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
> >On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, JT wrote:
> >> 
> >> Vanna, if you please.  There are 2 'd's.
> >
> >There can be only one true Wheel Hostess, and it is Adriana Xenides.
> 
> *bzzt* Vanna White is the one and only *true* WheelMeister :)

Explain how come Adriana got into the Guinness Book of Records for longest
continuing stint as a game show hostess (on a single show) for her effort
on Wheel of Fortune.
- -- 
Duncan C. "say it with me - Xenides" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:15:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: formed (GOP)

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Mueller wrote:

> >A Swingership with attribute "Giant Old Potato" exists, and is Somewhere
> >Else.  The first member of the Party to say so shall become its owner, and
> >thereby that Party's representative at Party Chess.
> >The Swingership may be transferred around as an Org action.
> 
> I say "so".

I suggest you subscribe (if you have not already) to acka-chess to find
out the current state of play and see how others are playing.

To all members of the HARF Party:
Your Swingership is Somewhere Else.  The first member of your party to
take possession of it publicly becomes the new Swinger for HARF (replacing
the now On Ice Koxvolio).
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:16:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, JT wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>> >On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, JT wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Vanna, if you please.  There are 2 'd's.
>> >
>> >There can be only one true Wheel Hostess, and it is Adriana Xenides.
>> 
>> *bzzt* Vanna White is the one and only *true* WheelMeister :)
>
>Explain how come Adriana got into the Guinness Book of Records for longest
>continuing stint as a game show hostess (on a single show) for her effort
>on Wheel of Fortune.

I have no clue, but here in the US, Vanna is it :)

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:21:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, JT wrote:

> I have no clue, but here in the US, Vanna is it :)

TWIAVBP.
- -- 
Duncan C. "I'm sure rufus can translate" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:25:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, JT wrote:
>
>> I have no clue, but here in the US, Vanna is it :)
>
>TWIAVBP.

Oh, I know, but here in the US we've never heard of whomever you
mentioned, so I felt obligated to ignore it :)

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:40:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: If your friends all jumped off of a bridge...

I am going to the Library, where I visit *that* room.

**two-star

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:53:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Ackanomicon Determination

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# 16 - 20 Vile Prophecies
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# 26 - 30 Arcane Lore
# 31 - 33 Terrorizing Pages
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# 35 - 36 Mutation
# 37 - 38 Dark Domain
# 39 - 40 Long Lost Treasure
# 41 - 41 Forbidden Fruit
# 42 - 42 Catastrophe
# 43 - 46 Not so Forbidden Fruit
# 47 - 47 Ancient One
# 48 - 49 Judgement Day

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> #S 49
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Ackanomicon Determination
> 
> #C Player: <name>
> #C Ackanomicon Determination
> #C based on the following (using a 49 sided die)
> #C
> #C  1 - 15 Arcane Trivia
> #C 16 - 20 Vile Prophecies
> #C 21 - 25 Inner Workings
> #C 26 - 30 Arcane Lore
> #C 31 - 33 Terrorizing Pages
> #C 34 - 34 Ancient Artifact
> #C 35 - 36 Mutation
> #C 37 - 38 Dark Domain
> #C 39 - 40 Long Lost Treasure
> #C 41 - 41 Forbidden Fruit
> #C 42 - 42 Catastrophe
> #C 43 - 46 Not so Forbidden Fruit
> #C 47 - 47 Ancient One
> #C 48 - 49 Judgement Day
> 
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