Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #309
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ackanomic digest     Wednesday, September 9 1998     Volume 03 : Number 309

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:43:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Crisis

I declare the state of crisis to be lifted since the CSR to fix the 
Governments system was accepted.

- --JT, Speaker

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:44:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CSR 158

Add the following to the literature list:

Artist: Jorge Luis Borges
Artist: Isaac Newton
Artist: Thomas Jefferson
Artist: Thomas Paine
Artist: Ezra Pound
Artist: Werner Heisenberg
Artist: Niels Bohr
Artist: Goethe ; Author of Faust
Artist: Talking Heads
Artist: Piers Anthony
Artist: Dylan Thomas
Artist: Bob Dylan
Artist: James Michener
Artist: Mel Brooks
Artist: The Marx Brothers
Artist: Karl Marx
Artist: Mao Tse-Tung
Artist: Sinclair Lewis
Artist: Lewis Carroll
Artist: Fidel Castro
Artist: Ian Fleming
Artist: Adam Smith

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:44:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Niccolo Flychuck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 3561

On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, JT wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
> >I like the bit about it being not the same gadget, but I'll vote against
> >because of the lower time limit.
> 
> I kinda like having ways to get gadgets in the game.  Why would allowing 2
> a month instead of 1 a month (well 2 every 28 days) bother you?  The not
> the same gadget restriction is to balance the fact that you can produce
> more gadgets.   Why are you opposed to the lower time limit?

There are way too many gadgets in the game already.

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:57:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Nothing Important

> > > JT has found the Jukkasjarvi treasure.The map, along with Malenkai's
> > > notes on it are as follows except that processing chip was changed to
> > > trinket by P2367. Well done JT.
> 
> Yes, wow.
> I seem to remember Malenkai wondering why it was taking so long.
> Perhaps this will be some indication:
> 
> Assume a player could sort out the meta-clues from the others, and merely
> could not tell which were bogus and which were not.

This was exactly the case - until we got that final idea, we didn't know
that there were 7 bogus fragments *in addition* to the meta-clues.  Back
when we (different we, probably just me and ThinMan) first collected all
or all-but-a-couple fragments, at some point we had all the meta-clues,
and fragment 19 said clue 2 is false (which we interpreted as the same as
bogus), it is bogus, and there are 7 other bogus clues, so we thought
these just referred to the 7 other meta-clues.  Because fragment 19 claims
it is bogus, and the numbers work out, we didn't realize that there were 7
bogus fragments among the ones that looked like conditions to meet.

I will elaborate more on the hunt when I take more time to put it all
together as an issue of the ACK.

/dev/joe

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:08:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CSR 158

I object to this CSR.

On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> Add the following to the literature list:
> 
> Artist: Jorge Luis Borges
> Artist: Isaac Newton
> Artist: Thomas Jefferson
> Artist: Thomas Paine
> Artist: Ezra Pound
> Artist: Werner Heisenberg
> Artist: Niels Bohr
> Artist: Goethe ; Author of Faust
> Artist: Talking Heads
> Artist: Piers Anthony
> Artist: Dylan Thomas
> Artist: Bob Dylan
> Artist: James Michener
> Artist: Mel Brooks
> Artist: The Marx Brothers
> Artist: Karl Marx
> Artist: Mao Tse-Tung
> Artist: Sinclair Lewis
> Artist: Lewis Carroll
> Artist: Fidel Castro
> Artist: Ian Fleming
> Artist: Adam Smith
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:27:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CSR 158

At 07:08 PM 9/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I object to this CSR.
>
>On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
>
>> Add the following to the literature list:

>> Artist: Jorge Luis Borges
>> Artist: Isaac Newton
>> etc.

Sheesh... do you have any particular reason?  i took off Dietrich
Dehlinger, as requested, as well as CS Lewis, who is covered in another CSR

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:52:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CSR 158

On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> Sheesh... do you have any particular reason?  

Yes.  

> i took off Dietrich
> Dehlinger, as requested, as well as CS Lewis, who is covered in another CSR
> 

Ok.

IB

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:15:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CSR 158

At 07:52 PM 9/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
>
>> Sheesh... do you have any particular reason?  
>
>Yes.  
>
Would you be particularly averse to telling me who you have an aversion to,
or whether it's just me?  Please tell me so i can remedy it in future CSRs.

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:36:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CSR 158

On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:

> At 07:52 PM 9/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Gabe Drummond-Cole wrote:
> >
> >> Sheesh... do you have any particular reason?  
> >
> >Yes.  
> >
> Would you be particularly averse to telling me who you have an aversion to,

No.

> or whether it's just me?  

No.

> Please tell me so i can remedy it in future CSRs.
> 

Ok.. well, I think the Literature list was not a bad idea.  But I hate the
idea of allowing anyone to quote just about anything and claim it is
"Literature".  

I will object to any CSR which attempts to add more than 3 items to the
Literature list.  I'll probably object to EVERY CSR which attempts to add
things to the list, but over 3 is certain.

IB
(Trying including Neil Peart in your list of 3 or fewer.)

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:44:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ding* *ding* We have another!

John Culbertso, who joined us only days ago as an observer has decided to
join us as a voting player under the name of marsboy.

His email address, in case you forgot already, is
[email-masked].

JT (ie, me) has been selected randomly to be his mentor.

Please join me in welcoming him to the game.

- --JT, Registrar

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:49:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ding* *ding* We have another!

On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, JT wrote:

>John Culbertso, who joined us only days ago as an observer has decided to

That should be Culbertson btw.  Danged typist.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:52:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael Pizolato" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: It's a root vegetable, you know

I bury a Treasure consisting of the Magic Potato and A$3, with the following
map, delimited by SPUDS:

SPUDS
This Treasure shall be found by the first player to publicly post a
palindrome that includes the word "potato" and is a sentence with a
reasonable meaning (as opposed to a random group of words selected merely to
form a palindrome). For purposes of this Treasure map, "reasonable meaning"
shall be determined by the player known at the time of the burial of this
Treasure as "Piz."
SPUDS

Piz (what the hey, it's worth a shot)

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:58:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Casting away (Memo)

Memo today has graduated from newbieness.

As such, he is given the following Caste membership.

Memo is now a noble Warrior.

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:59:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Vulcan Acts

On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> For once, we don't wait until the final few days of the month to use this
> thing.  I suggest Vulcan use its secret laboratory to build a Saaremaa's
> Codex of Wizardry in my possession.  I approve this action.
> 
> /dev/joe
> 

Yup, fine by me.  I approve.

Vynd

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:01:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: It's a root vegetable, you know

On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Michael Pizolato wrote:
>I bury a Treasure consisting of the Magic Potato and A$3, with the following
>map, delimited by SPUDS:
>
>SPUDS
>This Treasure shall be found by the first player to publicly post a
>palindrome that includes the word "potato" and is a sentence with a
>reasonable meaning (as opposed to a random group of words selected merely to
>form a palindrome). For purposes of this Treasure map, "reasonable meaning"
>shall be determined by the player known at the time of the burial of this
>Treasure as "Piz."
>SPUDS

I don't believe this works since the Potato is Non-Tradeable, and by
the rules of Treasure Burial you can only bury tradeable entities.

Nice try though Piz :)

- --JT

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:01:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kelly Kelly <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: It's a root vegetable, you know

This treasure consist of exactly A$3 - the Magic Potato is not tradeable 
and therefore can not be buied....

K 2

potato! not a top
On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Michael Pizolato wrote:

> I bury a Treasure consisting of the Magic Potato and A$3, with the following
> map, delimited by SPUDS:
> 
> SPUDS
> This Treasure shall be found by the first player to publicly post a
> palindrome that includes the word "potato" and is a sentence with a
> reasonable meaning (as opposed to a random group of words selected merely to
> form a palindrome). For purposes of this Treasure map, "reasonable meaning"
> shall be determined by the player known at the time of the burial of this
> Treasure as "Piz."
> SPUDS
> 
> Piz (what the hey, it's worth a shot)
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:18:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Ackanomicon Determination

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Dice rolls requested by: JT <[email-masked]>
Rolls also sent to:
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# Player: Eris
# Ackanomicon Determination
# based on the following (using a 49 sided die)
#  1 - 15 Arcane Trivia
# 16 - 20 Vile Prophecies
# 21 - 25 Inner Workings
# 26 - 30 Arcane Lore
# 31 - 33 Terrorizing Pages
# 34 - 34 Ancient Artifact
# 35 - 36 Mutation
# 37 - 38 Dark Domain
# 39 - 40 Long Lost Treasure
# 41 - 41 Forbidden Fruit
# 42 - 42 Catastrophe
# 43 - 46 Not so Forbidden Fruit
# 47 - 47 Ancient One
# 48 - 49 Judgement Day

No. of sides on every die:     49
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

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> #T Acka: Ackanomicon Determination
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> #C Player: Eris
> #C Ackanomicon Determination
> #C based on the following (using a 49 sided die)
> #C
> #C  1 - 15 Arcane Trivia
> #C 16 - 20 Vile Prophecies
> #C 21 - 25 Inner Workings
> #C 26 - 30 Arcane Lore
> #C 31 - 33 Terrorizing Pages
> #C 34 - 34 Ancient Artifact
> #C 35 - 36 Mutation
> #C 37 - 38 Dark Domain
> #C 39 - 40 Long Lost Treasure
> #C 41 - 41 Forbidden Fruit
> #C 42 - 42 Catastrophe
> #C 43 - 46 Not so Forbidden Fruit
> #C 47 - 47 Ancient One
> #C 48 - 49 Judgement Day
> 
> 
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:53:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Games: Off World

Ackazens

In an alternate reality, particularly a newsgroup called
"rec.games.diplomacy", I have made a call for players in a university
tournament. I know a few people in Acka have expressed an interest in this.
On the off chance that others are also interested, I am writing this.

Reply to this message for more info.

CnH

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