Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #298
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ackanomic digest      Thursday, September 3 1998      Volume 03 : Number 298

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 02:42:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Hall of Elders Nomination (was: Return, however

On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, JT wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
> > [JT posted his separately]
> >
> >/dev/joe also supports
> 
> Just so that you all don't have to quote all the previous confirmations
> each time, I am tracking this.   As of my sending this, else...if has
> 6 confirmation points (counting Vynd's nomination and his cycle win).

I support the nomination of else...if to the Hall of Elders.
The creator of the Ackan Reserve deserves no less.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, CotC, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, Senator

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 05:53:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (I am the Water Boatman)
Subject: acka: hall of elders nomination

I also support the nomination of else...if for the hall of elders

Ethelred

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 06:29:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (I am the Water Boatman)
Subject: Re: Acka: heraldic books (TJ)

>I don't know offhand and will have to look it up with respects to the
>book.  If I haven't replied back to you in another day or so, please
>assume that it slipped my mind and reask.

Cheers. I looked in a couple of the online heraldic dictionaries, but they all
seem to work the wrong way round.

>Slakko has already answered the question of dexter and sinister.  They are
>relative to the bearer of the shield and thus reversed from the viewer's
>perspective.

Thanks JT and Slakko -- actually, I think I've got my sinister and dexter the
wrong way round, but because I was looking at it from the wrong angle, that
means I would have inadvertently got it right.

>  (If it helps, think of stage left and stage right, which are
>also done with respect to the stage and the actors, and thus reversed from
>the position of the audience)

That does help. I've been known to tread the boards in my time.

Ethelred

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 07:54:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : gift

I gift all Jukkarsavi fragments which I own to /dev/joe

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:05:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Hall of Elders Nomination (was: Return, however

On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, JT wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
> > [JT posted his separately]
> >
> >/dev/joe also supports
> 
> Just so that you all don't have to quote all the previous confirmations
> each time, I am tracking this.   As of my sending this, else...if has
> 6confirmation points (counting Vynd's nomination and his cycle win).

I support this as well
Niccolo Flychuck
> 
> - --TJ
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:42:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael Pizolato" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Hall of Elders Nomination (was: Return, however

Slakko wrote:
:On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, JT wrote:
:> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
:> > [JT posted his separately]
:> >
:> >/dev/joe also supports
:> 
:> Just so that you all don't have to quote all the previous confirmations
:> each time, I am tracking this.   As of my sending this, else...if has
:> 6 confirmation points (counting Vynd's nomination and his cycle win).
:
:I support the nomination of else...if to the Hall of Elders.
:The creator of the Ackan Reserve deserves no less.

Ditto.

Piz

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:18:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bernard El-Hagin <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Hall of Elders Nomination (was: Return, however

Slakko wrote:
:On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, JT wrote:
:> On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
:> > [JT posted his separately]
:> >
:> >/dev/joe also supports
:> 
:> Just so that you all don't have to quote all the previous confirmations
:> each time, I am tracking this.   As of my sending this, else...if has
:> 6 confirmation points (counting Vynd's nomination and his cycle win).
:
:I support the nomination of else...if to the Hall of Elders.
:The creator of the Ackan Reserve deserves no less.

Not only do I support the nomination of else...if to the Hall of
Elders I support the support of the nomination of else...if to the
Hall of Elders.

Cheers,
Rig R. Mortis

"Santa Claus doesn't believe in you, either."

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:20:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Hall of Elders Nomination (was: Return, however

>:I support the nomination of else...if to the Hall of Elders.
>:The creator of the Ackan Reserve deserves no less.

>Ditto.

And I.

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 10:00:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gabe Drummond-Cole <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Hall of Elders Nomination (was: Return, however

>>:I support the nomination of else...if to the Hall of Elders.
>>:The creator of the Ackan Reserve deserves no less.
>
>>Ditto.
>
>And I.
>

Wow, everyone's doing this... well, I'll follow the rest of your leads...
Me too.

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 10:47:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Grey Council

> the Evil Ballot Stuffers go down even further in my estimation and I

The thing is, it *is* possible to deal with Evil Ballot Stuffers if you
want to make the effort, without necessarily just repealing the blueprint.

Destroying them is one solution, whether by Scrolls of Crumble or by
Plunky Monkey Wrenches, and the Good Ballot Stuffer stuff can be made to
work, if you actually try.

But of course, that would be Heresy, wouldn't it, and people in the Church
to the Evil Ballot Stuffer would probably challenge you to duels and more.

Koxvolio

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:05:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CSRR please?

I would appreciate the CSRR making the following changes as delimited by
TRIVIAL_FIX via CSRR 

TRIVIAL_FIX
In Rule 843 Section 4, replace the first occurance of 'nomination' with
'confirmation'.
TRIVIAL_FIX

Currently confirmation points are counted at the end of the *nomination*
period, not at the end of the *confirmation* period, so some legal
confirmations could in fact not occur.

- --TJ

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:22:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 641 (rufus)

> 
> Statement:
> No player of Ackanomic has ever had an Ackanomic name (as distinct from
> a real name) of Tom Walmsley.

False.  JT lacked the power to deny the change.

rufus

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:23:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Return, however fleeting

On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Towsner wrote:

> 	I offer the Ackan Reserve Financial Report to IdiotBoy, who may be
> able to do something with it

I accept and will try.

> 	I leave Acka.
> 

You'll be missed.

IB

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:36:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CSRR please?

JT wrote:

> I would appreciate the CSRR making the following changes as delimited by
> TRIVIAL_FIX via CSRR
>
> TRIVIAL_FIX
> In Rule 843 Section 4, replace the first occurance of 'nomination' with
> 'confirmation'.
> TRIVIAL_FIX
>
> Currently confirmation points are counted at the end of the *nomination*
> period, not at the end of the *confirmation* period, so some legal
> confirmations could in fact not occur.

So be it. I make the following TRIVIAL_FIX delimited CSR numbered 153:

TRIVIAL_FIX
In Rule 843 Section 4, replace the first occurance of 'nomination' with
'confirmation'.
TRIVIAL_FIX

I then announce my intent to resign as CSRR. Like my predecessor, Vynd, I feel
that I have not been quite as active in this post as I might have liked, and,
as I said, I'm now trying to shed a few offices.

MTM, CSRR.

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Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:37:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Return, however fleeting

> I offer my OC: Share Your Income to MTM

I accept this offer. I support the nomination of else...if into the hall of
elders even though it seems fairly academic now. You will be missed.

Mr. Tambourine Man.

- --
Tom Walmsley [email-masked]
http://website.lineone.net/~t.walmsley/index.html
AIM: TGW666 ICQ 2925739
Bonvolu alsendi la pordiston, lausajne estas rano en mia bideo.

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:49:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Nominations and such

If I am allowed to do so, I support else...if's nomination to the Hall
of Elders.

Also, I support the Moral Kiosk's most recent action (which eludes me at
the moment).  I proxy my support to the Moral Kiosk.

Does this mean I've won the game of GAD?  Not quite the grand victory I
was hoping for :(

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Lotus Notes Administrator
Intranet Administrator
Adtran, Inc.
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:58:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Duel - Loss of 2 trinkets from Vynd

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#  2 - Zoot Suit Riot
#  3 - Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden 26
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#  5 - HTML Standard Playtest Edition Eggplant and Hat Set I
#  6 - Little Wooden Ship #2
#  7 - Pair of Big Brass Balls, [sic]
#  8 - Model of what might have been Jmmer's Butler

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> #T Acka: Duel - Loss of 2 trinkets from Vynd
> 
> #C This is to determine which of his trinkets Vynd loses.
> #C The first two unique rolls determine the lost trinkets according to the
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> #C  2 - Zoot Suit Riot
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> #C  4 - Savage Garden 
> #C  5 - HTML Standard Playtest Edition Eggplant and Hat Set I
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> #C  7 - Pair of Big Brass Balls, [sic]
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:03:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Duel - Loss of 2 trinkets from Vynd

On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Dice server wrote:
>#  1 - Piz is all my fault #2
>#  2 - Zoot Suit Riot
>#  3 - Small off-duty Czechoslovakian traffic Warden 26
>#  4 - Savage Garden 
>#  5 - HTML Standard Playtest Edition Eggplant and Hat Set I
>#  6 - Little Wooden Ship #2
>#  7 - Pair of Big Brass Balls, [sic]
>#  8 - Model of what might have been Jmmer's Butler

[snip]

>      1      1      5      3      2

I gift the 'Piz is all my fault #2' back to Vynd.  I will however hold
onto the HTML Standard playtest edition.

- --TJ

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:14:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Harf

On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> Has anyone been Funky & Stylish lately?

Always, but not in a rule sanctioned manner.

rufus

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:59:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Lestas... Guillermo Lestas" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 641(True)

I have judged it true.

Statement: 
No player of Ackanomic has ever had an Ackanomic name (as distinct
from a real name) of Tom Walmsley.

My reasoning:
Changing the name to Tom Wasley is similar to the _real_ name of
another player. Here I do not differenciate between acka name and the
real one. JT has the authority to unable the change.

{{Do I still need to send it to Slako?}}

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 17:11:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 641(True)

On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Lestas... Guillermo Lestas wrote:

> Subject: Acka: CFJ 641(True)

You went deadbeat on this 29 August, and the CFJ was reassigned (to me, as
it happens.)  

In general, sending a verdict to the CotC is necessary and  sufficient.  A
public message is sufficient, since we consider messages sent publicly to
also have been sent privately, but not necessary.

rufus

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:14:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: IRC

I will be on IRC for hte next couple of hours 
 if anyone is interested.

rufus

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:29:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kelly Hubert Kelly <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Offices

use the reply button or telepathically beam your nomination to me for
either or both of the following offices:
CSRR
Scorekeeper

K 2

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:29:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kelly Hubert Kelly <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Nom.

Towsner wrote:

>         I return from vacation.
>         I offer my Spellbook of Chorg to K2.

I accept this and offer it to AtP.

>         To K2, for the win you almost helped me get

sigh.

>         I leave Acka.

I support else...if's nomination and encourage everbody who is of a like mind
to vote for em.

K 2

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:29:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kelly Hubert Kelly <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : gift

A null action ;)

Odo owns all of the trinkets formerly owned by Niccolo Flychuck.

K 2

Uri Bruck wrote:

> I gift all Jukkarsavi fragments which I own to /dev/joe
>
> Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:29:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kelly Hubert Kelly <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Rafting Trip

So I don't dither over this again:
I bury my felicious populi card and A$ 50 as a treasure which will be found when
both the owner of the raft and the oars have expressed eir consent to raft the
river, provided that I read eir public messages prior to the main event.

K 2

The evil and pervese Dice server wrote:

> # Players: Studge (raft), rufus (oars), Piz, IdiotBoy
> # 1 - Broken Conservation laws
>       1

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 21:23:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Micah Smukler)
Subject: Re: Acka: Nom.

>Towsner wrote:
>
>>         I return from vacation.
>>         I offer my Spellbook of Chorg to K2.
>
>I accept this and offer it to AtP.
>
I accept.

In case it still matters I support else...if's Eldership.

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 21:59:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Org Hrferness

ruufs said:
> On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Kelly Hubert Kelly wrote:
> 
> > The Church of the Righteous Loophold Surfers is a cult
> 
> I leave the church of the righteous Loophold surfers, mumbling something
> about damn typos on the way out.

I also leave the church of the righteous loophold surfers, figuring
to join some other more active loophole-surfing church later.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:45:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Org Hrferness

On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> ruufs said:
> > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Kelly Hubert Kelly wrote:
> > 

I forget... does this         ^^^^^^      sort of thing count?

Vynd, who was the second person to disqualify himself

[email-masked]

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:49:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Returning

> > I return from Vacation.
> > I become Active.
> > I become Voting.
> > 
> > J. M. Bear
> 
> Once, again, this is the state that I already have for this player.
> What's going on?
> 
> breadbox

Perchance you are psychic?

404 Not Found
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:54:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Gibbering Mouther

> /dev/joe
> Not the financier
> When did we start playing cthulhu anyway?

If I have my way, very shortly...

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:08:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Politics

> >I thought so. IF I haven't already done so I apply for membership of the
> >Razor Boomerangs Political Party.
> 
> I propose that the Razor Boomerangs accept Mr. Tambourine Man
> as a member.

I accept this proposal.  Welcome aboard, MTM.

404 Not Found
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:37:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Rafting Trip

On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Kelly Hubert Kelly wrote:
>So I don't dither over this again:
>I bury my felicious populi card and A$ 50 as a treasure which will be found when
>both the owner of the raft and the oars have expressed eir consent to raft the
>river, provided that I read eir public messages prior to the main event.

Just curious, but who finds it in that case?

- --JT

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 23:44:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Org Hrferness

>
>
>On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
>
>> ruufs said:
>> > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Kelly Hubert Kelly wrote:
>> > 
>
>I forget... does this         ^^^^^^      sort of thing count?

Oh my yes.  Which was, I imagine, the point of K 2's starting to sign
eir messages that way.

I think there's still a few of the newer players left, though I've been
relying on the Treasure-Harfer to keep track for me for a while.  :-)

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