Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #280
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ackanomic digest       Saturday, August 22 1998       Volume 03 : Number 280

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:26:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Going Inactive :-(

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
>What Highlander's Swords?

The ones that MTM recreated after he returned.  I've enclosed the message
below.

>You Discovered the swords on the 12th of July.  However, Mr. Tambourine
>Man returned from vacation before the Discovery had existed for a week.
>
>You in fact sent the following message on the 19th:
>
>>Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:32:51 -0400 (EDT)
>>From: JT <[email-masked]>
>>Subject: Acka: Inventor
>>
>>With the return of MTM I believe that I lose the acting Inventor office
>>that I had.
>>
>>Unfortunately, he returned 1 day (or so) before my Highlander Sword
>>would have become qualified, so I believe that it gets automatically
>>debunked.  The 'Saaremaa's Codex of Wizardry' however, I believe became
>>qualified before MTM actually returned.
>>
>>I give MTM back his position in the Eleusis game 1.
>
>
>How can you argue that the Swords exist?

I asked /dev/joe to forward this to me a few days ago.  It is a copy from
his archives of the message where MTM recreated the Highlander's Swords.

On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
>
>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:00:14 -0500 (CDT)
>From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
>To: AckP Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>,
>    AckP JT Traub <[email-masked]>
>Subject: Acka: Another Discovery (fwd)
>
>Forwarded at JT's request.
>
>Forwarded message:
>> From [email-masked]  Fri Jul 24 15:24:56 1998
>> X-Authentication-Warning: eidolon.speakeasy.org: majordom set sender to [email-masked] using -f
>> Message-Id: <[email-masked]>
>> From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
>> To: "Acka" <[email-masked]>
>> Subject: Acka: Another Discovery
>> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:15:04 -0400 (EDT)
>> X-Sent-At-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:46:34 +0100
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>> 
>> I am using my powers as inventor to make another discovery. This time it is
>> for a "Highlander's Sword" and is delimited by ONLY_ONE.
>> 
>> ONLY_ONE
>> A player who has a Highlander's Sword is a fearsome opponent in a Duel,
>> but a such a sword is a two-edged weapon.
>> When any player in a duel owns a Highlander's Sword, the following effects
>> take place at the end of duel.
>> a) The loser of the duel loses 1 head unless they only have one in which
>>    case they lose 10 points and 1 trinket at random which are given to the
>>    winner.
>> b) The loser's sword is given to the winner after all sword penalties have
>>    been applied.
>> If both duelists have a sword, the penalties from the loser's sword are
>> applied first.
>> 
>> If a player ever owns more than one Highlander's Sword, the most recently
>> acquired one is destroyed.
>> 
>> A player owning a Highlander's Sword is never Untouchable, but may still
>> be in only one duel at a time.  This rule takes precedence over rule 1215
>> where it is in conflict.
>> 
>> If two players own Highlander's Swords and are not currently engaged in a
>> Duel, one of them must challenge the other to a Duel.  Failure to do so
>> will result in the loss of 1 point from each players Score for each week.
>> [Note that if 3 players are not involved in a duel, all three will lose
>> points.  As soon as two of them are Dueling, none of them lose points
>> weekly any longer]
>> 
>> When this Blueprint becomes Qualified, JT and three other active voting
>> players chosen at random shall each receive a Highlander's Sword.  This
>> paragraph will then repeal itself from this rule.
>> 
>> {{Change the authorship credit of this rule to JT (JT Traub).}}
>> ONLY_ONE
>> 
>> MTM, Inventor.
>> 

I hope this explains why I believe that the Highlander's swords do in fact
exists and why I, else...if, Vynd and J. M. Bear believed that we had one,
why K 2 believed that we had one, etc.

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:29:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Going Inactive :-(

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, JT wrote:

<A lot of stuff that makes me look foolish>

I give A$10 to the Twits.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, Clerk of the Court, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:49:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Raft (Studge)

Studge has found the Raft this week.

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:27:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Going Active agin...

 I be going Active again.  And putting meselfinto the mentor pool an I am
not.

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Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:30:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *That* room.

  An it be the case that I did not go into *that* room and read *that*
book then I do so now.

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:36:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Ackanomicon Determination

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# 16 - 20 Vile Prophecies
# 21 - 25 Inner Workings
# 26 - 30 Arcane Lore
# 31 - 33 Terrorizing Pages
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# 35 - 36 Mutation
# 37 - 38 Dark Domain
# 39 - 40 Long Lost Treasure
# 41 - 41 Forbidden Fruit
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# 43 - 46 Not so Forbidden Fruit
# 47 - 47 Ancient One
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:41:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Grey Council

  If there is an appropriate seat on the Grey Council (of which I cannot
find a membership list...) Then I nominate myself for it.  I think.

(Confused...)

- -- 
Jonathan David Amery, Trinity Hall, CAMBRIDGE, CB2 1TJ.             #####
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/~jda23/home.html                  o__#######
Wild Card of Acka, member of SPAM, wearing a Silly Agenda Hat.   \'#######
Follower of Banna, the EBS and Odo.  Holding the Silver Key to the Vault.

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:46:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Purple Robe

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Dice server wrote:
># Player: Wild Card
># Ackanomicon Determination
># based on the following (using a 49 sided die)
[snip]
># 48 - 49 Judgement Day
[snip]
>     49

I glare petulantly at Wild Card.. "My Robe.  My Robe... :)"

*sigh* :)

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:21:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Going Inactive :-(

> I suggest that Alfvaen becomes the new Swinger for
> Metamorph. I approve of this suggestion.

I also approve of this suggestion, I guess.

> (I think this means I'm forfeiting the duel... sorry Alfvaen)

I just submitted something that might have fixed this problem(although not
in this specific case, I suppose)...

> I really wonder what Acka will look like when I return...

There will be hydriae all over the place.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Ian Hunter:All-American Alien Boy
Current Book--S.M. Stirling:Marching Through Georgia
Butter wouldn't melt on her knife.

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:22:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Acka: Proposal 3473]

> Having exhasted my french I donate A$1 to the twits.
> The problem is this proposal and the one after it are dependent on one
> another - retract one retract the other.....

Are you doing this, or not?

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Ian Hunter:All-American Alien Boy
Current Book--S.M. Stirling:Marching Through Georgia
Think locally, act globally.

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:44:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Grey Council

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Jonathan David Amery wrote:

>   If there is an appropriate seat on the Grey Council (of which I cannot
> find a membership list...) Then I nominate myself for it.  I think.
> 
> 
> (Confused...)

It's new.
We stand between the darkness and the light.
Between the candle and the star.
Religious, Warrior and Worker.
The space in the middle is left for the one who will be.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Ackanomic - Web-Harfer, Clerk of the Court, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:47:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 642 (TRUE)

Vynd has (surprise, surprise) judged this one TRUE.

Call for Judgement 642 - August 13, 1998
Subject: Rule Existence
Initiator: Slakko (sent Aug 13, 1998 13:02 Acka)
1st Judge: Studge (chosen Aug 13, 1998 13:02 Acka) (deadbeat)
2nd Judge: Vynd (chosen Aug 21, 1998 04:17 Acka)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:

There is no Rule 1319.

CFJ Reasoning:

On the 13th of July, K 2 achieved a Winning Condition by a method
described in what was, at the time Rule 1319.2.  The achievement of that
Winning Condition caused some other effects to occur, as follows:

"However, upon eir return, e shall achieve a Winning
Condition. At this time all the entities donated to the CEIS shall be
destroyed, except for the spacecraft which shall be Decommissioned. This
Rule, as well as Rules 1319, 1319.1 and 1320 [the RERS, FEPS and End of
the World rules], shall be repealed then, and all occurrences of the
word "flat" in Rules 1307 and 1309 shall be replaced by "cubical", all
occurrences of the text "the topside of the earth" in Rule 1309 shall be
replaced by "the other faces of the earth", and all occurrences of the
text "the underside of the Earth" in Rule 1311 shall be replaced by "the
face of the Earth which includes Ackanomia". "

Since this time, no Proposal creating a rule numbered 1319, or renumbering
a rule to 1319 has passed.  Hence there is no Rule 1319.

Judge's Reasoning:

I concur with the initiator on all counts.  Rule 1319.2 was indeed
triggered, and the events described therein occured.  It is possible (I
don't know one way or another) that the Rule Harfer or Web Harfer made
some sort of error by maintaining a copy of Rule 1319 as if it had not
been repealed. Even if this was the case, the error in no way altered the
fact that Rule 1319 was in fact, repealed.  Rule 701 specifically exempts
"events which occur automatically" from its so-called pragmatism clause,
and there is substantial game custom to support the claim that the repeal
of Rule 1319 was "automatic."  I judge this CFJ to be TRUE.

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:29:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Quirpele of Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

The Spelling Bee is flying!

In Rule 207.1, "That's just silly", "all quoted instance" ->
"All quoted instances"

In Rule 212, "Selecting A Judge", "Acvtive" -> "Active"

In Rule 251, "Player Names", "Registar" -> "Registrar"

In Rule 251.1, "True Names", "aquire" -> "acquire"

In Rule 399, "Remembrance Day", add a period to final sentence

In Rule 416, "Supreme Court", "eliglible" -> "eligible"

In Rule 423, "Map-Harfer", "ocurance" -> "occurrence"(twice);
"priviliges" -> "privileges"

In Rule 432, "Son I am able though you scare me / Watch beloved / Watch me
scare you though / Able am I son", "forment" -> "foment"

In Rule 500.2, "Entity Ownership", "sentance" -> "sentence"

In Rule 501, "ExtraNomic Entities", "recieves" -> "receives"(twice)

In Rule 541, "Characteristic Tests", "proceedure" -> "procedure"

In Rule 550.1, "Honourable Acts", "Recieving" -> "Receiving"(twice)

In Rule 550.2, "Dishonourable Acts", "Repeatble" -> "Repeatable"

In Rule 670, "Commission d'Arts", "if a active" -> "if an active"

In Rule 801, "Geography", "permited" -> "permitted"

In Rule 820, "Land", "seperate" -> "separate"; "refered" -> "referred";
"coordiantes" -> "coordinates"

In Rule 847, "Earthquakes", "occured" -> "occurred"

In Rule 933, "Purple Robe of Justice", "recieves" -> "receives"

In Rule 950, "Ackanomic Sound System Rule Suite", "Priveleges" -> "Privileges"

In Rule 1017, "Trusts", "existance" -> "existence"

In Rule 1031, "Grey Council", "immeadiately" -> "immediately"

In Rule 1040, "Party Hall", "in the Treasure" -> "in the Treasury"

In Rule 1240.50, "Otzma Card of Type Shield", "existance" -> "existence"

In Rule 1250.23, "Eleusis", "substitue" -> "substitute", "referree" ->
"referee", "Referree" -> "Referee"
[ Though there doesn't seem much point because one of JT's Proposals
is going to put them right back anyway ]

In Rule 1301, "Church", "anouncement" -> "announcement" (twice);
"implicity" -> "implicitly"; "Organizatioanl" -> "Organizational";
"memebr" -> "member"; "memebrs" -> "members"

In Rule 1350, "La Luna", "recieve" -> "receive"

In Rule 1351, "Mooning", "recieve" -> "receive"

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Current Album--OMD:Architecture & Morality
Current Book--S.M. Stirling:Marching Through Georgia
I say, put Schrodinger in the box & see how HE likes it.

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 21:35:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Challenge (Vynd)

On behalf of JT, Speaker of Ackanomic, as well as Herald, and probably
other Offices that I can't even remember right now, and holder of
a Highlander's Sword, I proffer a Challenge to Vynd, e also of a
Highlander's Sword and, well, let's see, used to be CSRR at one point,
and may still be a Senator, I can't remember, as eir Second.  JT's,
not Vynd's, in case any of you were confused by that dangling modifier.

I would say "There can be only one!", but the Rules do not seem to require
it, nor is it in fact true(since there is no instance limit set on the
numbers of Highlander's Swords that may be in existence at any given time),
and anyway wouldn't want to confuse you with abstract mathematical concepts
like that, so find yourself some hapless lackey to be your Second, and pick
some game or other to lose pitifully at.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
Current Album--OMD:Architecture & Morality
Current Book--S.M. Stirling:Marching Through Georgia
If you start thinking, you'd better do it the whole time.  --Yossioren

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:09:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Challenge (Vynd)

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> On behalf of JT, Speaker of Ackanomic, as well as Herald, and probably
> other Offices that I can't even remember right now, and holder of
> a Highlander's Sword, I proffer a Challenge to Vynd, e also of a
> Highlander's Sword and, well, let's see, used to be CSRR at one point,
> and may still be a Senator, I can't remember, as eir Second.  JT's,
> not Vynd's, in case any of you were confused by that dangling modifier.
> 
> I would say "There can be only one!", but the Rules do not seem to require
> it, nor is it in fact true(since there is no instance limit set on the
> numbers of Highlander's Swords that may be in existence at any given time),
> and anyway wouldn't want to confuse you with abstract mathematical concepts
> like that, so find yourself some hapless lackey to be your Second, and pick
> some game or other to lose pitifully at.
> 
> 

Unless I am very much mistaken, my Duel with else...if is still in
progress.  We have to wait three days from the time our words were
revealed, to allow time for us to spot misplays and make a challenge.  We
have two days left to go, give or take a few hours.

So...  I laugh at your ridiculous attempt at a challenge.  Trying to sneak
up on me from behind, eh?  If I wan't busy well, standing around waiting
for my other duel to end, I'd run YOU through, Alfvaen, and then we'd see
what that pretty boy JT has to say.

=P

Vynd

[email-masked]

> --
> --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.connect.ab.ca/~alfvaen/ )
> Current Album--OMD:Architecture & Morality
> Current Book--S.M. Stirling:Marching Through Georgia
> If you start thinking, you'd better do it the whole time.  --Yossioren
> 

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:30:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Quirpele of Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:
>In Rule 1250.23, "Eleusis", "substitue" -> "substitute", "referree" ->
>"referee", "Referree" -> "Referee"
>[ Though there doesn't seem much point because one of JT's Proposals
>is going to put them right back anyway ]

Gyah.. sorry 'bout that.. I cut/pasted from the previous and trusted the
previous spelling :) (no, I don't always run my messages through a
spell-checker, sorry)

I donate A$1 to the twits.

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:43:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Challenge (Vynd)

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:
>Unless I am very much mistaken, my Duel with else...if is still in
>progress.  We have to wait three days from the time our words were
>revealed, to allow time for us to spot misplays and make a challenge.  We
>have two days left to go, give or take a few hours.
>
>So...  I laugh at your ridiculous attempt at a challenge.  Trying to sneak
>up on me from behind, eh?  If I wan't busy well, standing around waiting
>for my other duel to end, I'd run YOU through, Alfvaen, and then we'd see
>what that pretty boy JT has to say.

I thought that else...if already said that everything was kosher.
However, according to the rules, I do indeed need to wait another day or
so until I can challenge you.  Drat.
(this was an honest mistake Vynd :)

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:54:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Challenge (Vynd)

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, JT wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:
> >Unless I am very much mistaken, my Duel with else...if is still in
> >progress.  We have to wait three days from the time our words were
> >revealed, to allow time for us to spot misplays and make a challenge.  We
> >have two days left to go, give or take a few hours.
> >
> >So...  I laugh at your ridiculous attempt at a challenge.  Trying to sneak
> >up on me from behind, eh?  If I wan't busy well, standing around waiting
> >for my other duel to end, I'd run YOU through, Alfvaen, and then we'd see
> >what that pretty boy JT has to say.
> 
> I thought that else...if already said that everything was kosher.
> However, according to the rules, I do indeed need to wait another day or
> so until I can challenge you.  Drat.
> (this was an honest mistake Vynd :)
> 
> --JT

As if there was any other kind.  Honestly JT, I can't figure you out.
Either you are so afraid of me that you made a poorly thought out attempt
to bushwhack me at the climax of my Duel with else... oh drat, where'd he
wander off to?  Come back here else...if, we're not finished yet!  Err, as
I was saying...  Either you are so underhanded as to try to ambush me
while I was still in the process of solidifying my victory, or you are so
foolish as to make a mistake.  In the one case, you clearly don't believe
you can defeat me in a fair fight.  In the other case, you are clearly
so inept that your chances against me are non-existant.  Really JT, you
should just yield now, before somebody gets hurt...

;)

Vynd

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:55:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Challenge (Vynd)

> Unless I am very much mistaken, my Duel with else...if is still in
> progress.  We have to wait three days from the time our words were
> revealed, to allow time for us to spot misplays and make a challenge.  We
> have two days left to go, give or take a few hours.

I thought of this just minutes after I posted this.

> So...  I laugh at your ridiculous attempt at a challenge.  Trying to sneak
> up on me from behind, eh?  If I wan't busy well, standing around waiting
> for my other duel to end, I'd run YOU through, Alfvaen, and then we'd see
> what that pretty boy JT has to say.

Well, there's nothing to keep you from being Challenged while you're in
a Duel, but you can't be in more than one Duel at a time.  (Hmmm...can
one force someone with a Highlander's Sword to forfeit this way?)

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:58:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Challenge (Vynd)

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:
>> I thought that else...if already said that everything was kosher.
>> However, according to the rules, I do indeed need to wait another day or
>> so until I can challenge you.  Drat.
>> (this was an honest mistake Vynd :)
>
>As if there was any other kind.  Honestly JT, I can't figure you out.
>Either you are so afraid of me that you made a poorly thought out attempt
>to bushwhack me at the climax of my Duel with else... oh drat, where'd he
>wander off to?  Come back here else...if, we're not finished yet!  Err, as
>I was saying...  Either you are so underhanded as to try to ambush me
>while I was still in the process of solidifying my victory, or you are so
>foolish as to make a mistake.  In the one case, you clearly don't believe
>you can defeat me in a fair fight.  In the other case, you are clearly
>so inept that your chances against me are non-existant.  Really JT, you
>should just yield now, before somebody gets hurt...

My second will respond to this properly after your already completed but
not yet ratified duel is well and truly done.   Such a coward to hide
behind the actual words of the rules makes me ashamed to even have to
sully my sword with you, but such is life.

:)

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 23:04:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Challenge (Vynd)

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:
>> So...  I laugh at your ridiculous attempt at a challenge.  Trying to sneak
>> up on me from behind, eh?  If I wan't busy well, standing around waiting
>> for my other duel to end, I'd run YOU through, Alfvaen, and then we'd see
>> what that pretty boy JT has to say.
>
>Well, there's nothing to keep you from being Challenged while you're in
>a Duel, but you can't be in more than one Duel at a time.  (Hmmm...can
>one force someone with a Highlander's Sword to forfeit this way?)

Heh.. interesting thought :) But I'm not that sneaky or underhanded.  he's
been challenged.. he has 3 days to respond.  He can clearly respond after
his first duel is finished and still remain within the three days :)

However according to 4a, it's not permissible to actually challenge an
untouchable player, but a player with the highlander's sword is not
untouchable (or so I tried)  Hrmm.... However, it might be the case that
this precedence might not work.  According to the blueprint rule suite all
blue prints defer to all other rules.  However, I tried to claim explicit
precedence in a blueprint which thus conflicted with the Blueprint Suite
Rule and therefore loses (lower number rule), so it's actually possible
that a Highlander sword cannot actually force a player to be untouchable.

Any thoughts?  (Sorry this is a bit rambly, I'm a mite 'chemically
enhanced' (as IdiotBoy is fond of saying) this evening.

- --JT

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