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ackanomic digest        Sunday, August 2 1998        Volume 03 : Number 254

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 16:52:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric Plumb <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Acktions

I go to the Wilds and am now deemed "to have returned in my Spaceship."
Unfortunately, such is not a legal Ackanomic name.  I note to the
Financier that I do not have the Spaceship any more; it was ephemeral.
(Last time I checked the P/E page it was there.)

I go to the Library.  I go into *that* room, if it's been less (or fewer)
than 24 hours since JT was there.  I play "The Boys Are Back In Town" by
Thin Lizzy on the ASS.  Then I immediately play "Barbie Girl" by Aqua,
because even that is preferable to the former.

I gift A$7 to /dev/joe, and request that JT offer em our Spellbook with
the suggestion that an Otzma Card of type Lay Off! would be vastly
appreciated.

I doff Hat number C26, condition "The owner of this hat is a member of
an organization which has as a member a non-player Entity which has not
previously been a member of that organisation and joined after the owner
of this hat became a member," and donate it to the Hatters along with
whatever the requisite fee is.

- - Tom Walmsley

Bartender, I'll have whatever the gentleman on the floor is having. 

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 16:56:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Question about #3349

Duncan Richer wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:
>
> > >What d'y'all think?  (I am really learning what I assume is the desired
> > >lesson -- that one must pay very close attention to the apparently petty
> > >little details -- as they say, "the devil is in the details"....)
> >
> > I would say wait until it is distriibuted and then retract and resubmit again. I remember one time where
> > Slakko must have submitted essentially the same proposal about ten times due to little bugs.
>
> And still had it rejected.

And was the last Grandiose proposal I have any memory of...

K 2

> :-)
>
> Yours,
> Slakko
> --
> Duncan C. "still want to see the word 'Suber' in the rules" Richer aka
> Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
> Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
> Acka - Web-Harfer,RuneMaker,ChessUmpire,Map-Harfer - www.ackanomic.org

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 16:57:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Very Belated Swingpoints

Duncan Richer wrote:

> Swingpoints for 20th of July:
> 1: Crackfoo

???
E left so e isn't a member of HARF anymore....

K 2

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:01:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acktions

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Eric Plumb wrote:
>I go to the Library.  I go into *that* room, if it's been less (or fewer)
>than 24 hours since JT was there.  I play "The Boys Are Back In Town" by
>Thin Lizzy on the ASS.  Then I immediately play "Barbie Girl" by Aqua,
>because even that is preferable to the former.

Harumph :)

>I gift A$7 to /dev/joe, and request that JT offer em our Spellbook with
>the suggestion that an Otzma Card of type Lay Off! would be vastly
>appreciated.

I offer the Spellbook of Chorg in my possession to /dev/joe, and mention
politely to him that Tom Walmsley would like an Otzma Card of type Lay
Off!.  I handily neglect to mention which Tom Walmsley wants this card
however, so he can make his own decision in that matter :)

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:03:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Very Belated Swingpoints

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, K2 wrote:

> Duncan Richer wrote:
> 
> > Swingpoints for 20th of July:
> > 1: Crackfoo
> 
> ???
> E left so e isn't a member of HARF anymore....

Funny, that's not what your "Undead" page - actually the On Ice page -
says.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - Web-Harfer,RuneMaker,ChessUmpire,Map-Harfer - www.ackanomic.org

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:15:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: A new observer

Robert Shaw, who previously played under the name of Robin Hood has
rejoined us as an observer.  His new email address is [email-masked]
and I hope you will all welcome him back.  He should be subscribed to the
lists by the time this message gets sent out.

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:32:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "K2 (Kelly Kelly)" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The Book

I suggest that The Church of the Book of Chorg build a Spell Book of
Chorg in K 2's possesion.

K 2

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:32:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Very Belated Swingpoints

I fixed this as I sent the e-mail :p

K 2
I hope

Duncan Richer wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, K2 wrote:
>
> > Duncan Richer wrote:
> >
> > > Swingpoints for 20th of July:
> > > 1: Crackfoo
> >
> > ???
> > E left so e isn't a member of HARF anymore....
>
> Funny, that's not what your "Undead" page - actually the On Ice page -
> says.
>
> --
> Duncan C. "" Richer aka
> Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
> Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
> Acka - Web-Harfer,RuneMaker,ChessUmpire,Map-Harfer - www.ackanomic.org

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:41:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Question about #3349

>> And still had it rejected.
>
>And was the last Grandiose proposal I have any memory of...

There have been a few since. Most of Wild Card's first proposals were
grandiose IIRC, and my Le Grand Fromage proposal was grandiose too. And no
I don't know why I remember this sort of thing.

Bri Clump.

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:41:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acktions

>I go to the Library.  I go into *that* room, if it's been less (or fewer)
>than 24 hours since JT was there.  I play "The Boys Are Back In Town" by
>Thin Lizzy on the ASS.  Then I immediately play "Barbie Girl" by Aqua,
>because even that is preferable to the former.

Hear ye, hear ye. Anyone else who willfully makes me perform random
determinations in my time as acting speaker will have vengeance wrought
upon them. This doesn't apply to JT and Tom Walmsley though, because I'm
nasty to them anyhow :-).

I go to the library and Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks on the ASS. No
particular reason; I just wanted to get rid of Barbie Girl andit was the
first song that came into my head.

Brie Clump.

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 17:47:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: "K2 (Kelly Kelly)" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acktions

Tom Walmsley wrote:

> >I go to the Library.  I go into *that* room, if it's been less (or fewer)
> >than 24 hours since JT was there.  I play "The Boys Are Back In Town" by
> >Thin Lizzy on the ASS.  Then I immediately play "Barbie Girl" by Aqua,
> >because even that is preferable to the former.
>
> Hear ye, hear ye. Anyone else who willfully makes me perform random
> determinations in my time as acting speaker will have vengeance wrought
> upon them. This doesn't apply to JT and Tom Walmsley though, because I'm
> nasty to them anyhow :-).
>
> I go to the library and Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks on the ASS. No
> particular reason; I just wanted to get rid of Barbie Girl andit was the
> first song that came into my head.
>
> Brie Clump.

I play "Barbie Girl" by Aqua, and await my chance to enter *that* room. Any
one for a surf down the Ackanomic River... Or perhaps a read from The Book :)

K 2

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 18:01:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acktions

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, K2 (Kelly Kelly) wrote:

> I play "Barbie Girl" by Aqua, and await my chance to enter *that* room. Any
> one for a surf down the Ackanomic River... Or perhaps a read from The Book :)

I go to the Library.
I play "Truly Madly Deeply" by Savage Garden on the ASS.
I return to my home.
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - Web-Harfer,RuneMaker,ChessUmpire,Map-Harfer - www.ackanomic.org

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 18:35:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acktions

Slakko acted:
> I go to the Library.
> I play "Truly Madly Deeply" by Savage Garden on the ASS.
> I return to my home.

I go to the Library.
I play "Don't Lose Your Head" by Queen on the ASS.
Maybe somebody will use their Highlander's Swords now. :-)
I return to Vulcan Headquarters.

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 18:43:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Ackanomicon Determination

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 18:47:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acktions

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, K2 (Kelly Kelly) wrote:
>Tom Walmsley wrote:
>> I go to the library and Waterloo Sunset by the Kinks on the ASS. No
>> particular reason; I just wanted to get rid of Barbie Girl andit was the
>> first song that came into my head.
>>
>> Brie Clump.
>
>I play "Barbie Girl" by Aqua, and await my chance to enter *that* room. Any
>one for a surf down the Ackanomic River... Or perhaps a read from The Book :)

I am declaring a Moment of Silence to last for 1 Week.  (anything to shut
up that blasted Barbie Girl).

If I still have the raft, I'm up for it, sure :)

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 19:00:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acktions

>I play "Barbie Girl" by Aqua, and await my chance to enter *that* room. Any
>one for a surf down the Ackanomic River... Or perhaps a read from The Book :)

I've already promised JT that I'll get revenge on him if he becomes
Speaker. Now it's looking like I'll need revenge whoever it is. :-)

Brie Clump.

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 19:00:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Leaving

No, I'm not leaving Acka, don't worry (incidentally, if I did would it be K
2 or breadbox that ended up as acting speaker. I was trying to remember
what happened when Malenkai left when he was CotC and Speaker but I
couldn't. Anyone want to remind me?). I am leaving the Klingon political
party. I'm growing bored with it :-). I will also note that political
parties seem to be little more than a way of getting an extra vote every
now and then; something could probably do with changing in that area. I
therefore ask at this point if any other currenty existing political
parties fancy a new member or if any non-alligned players fancy forming a
new party. If so, get in touch.

Brie Clump.

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 19:12:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: A new player

This is a busy week for observers and new players it seems.

We have been joined by Tom Meuller (email address of [email-masked]).
He has chosen the Ackanomic name of Studge.  He heard about the game from
official Ackanomic Web page, and will be joining us as a voting player.

Slakko has been chosen as eir mentor, but I'm sure that I speak for
everyone when I say that any of us will be more than happy to answer any
questions he might have.   Please join me in giving him a warm welcome. 

- --JT, Registrar

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 19:23:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acktions

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:
>I've already promised JT that I'll get revenge on him if he becomes
>Speaker. Now it's looking like I'll need revenge whoever it is. :-)

Promises promises :)

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 19:37:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Walmsley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: INPs

The following INPs have recently come to my attention. You may reply to
this message to indicate how you wish Ackanomic to vote on them.

Brie Clump, Ambassador.

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INP 378
Submitted by Agora

HELLO??
Create a rule with the following ...ello?...lo?-delimited text:

...ello?...lo?
If a member nomic of Internomic has not submitted a vote, a proposal,
a statement for judgement or a judgement in the last 30 days, it shall
be considered "Missing".

Other rules notwithstanding, a nomic that is considered Missing cannot
be chosen as judge for any statements for judgement.
...ello?...lo?

Amend Rule 215 by replacing the string "The moderator maintains a list
of non-voting members." with the string "The moderator maintains a
list of non-voting and of missing member nomics."
HELLO??
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The submitter made the following comment:
[Comment: This is derived from a similar rule in NRn that is rather
effective in avoiding time delays caused by inactive players.]

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INP 379
submitted by Agora

Amend rule 215 by removing the string " Bluesmobile Nomic,".

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The submitter made the following comment:
(Comment: I've been in touch with the Bluesmobile players - they had
unsubscribed from the IN list a long time ago becasue they somehow
didn't like it. Their recent fun post was triggered by my attempt to
contact them, but they agreed that we can remove them from the voting
members list].
#####

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INP380
submitted by Agora

When Nomics Default on Judging

Be it herweby resolved that R213 be amended to read:

      A nomic which has been selected to judge must deliver judgement
      within two weeks by sending its judgement to the moderator, who
      must then distribute the judgement to all members.  A legal
      judgement is either "true" or "false", and must be in accordance
      with the rules.

      If a nomic fails to deliver judgement, then it is removed as
      judge, and the moderator shall select a new judge from among the
      other eligible nomics.

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:07:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: CotC stuff

> It also gives me great pleasure to present Alfvaen with a bronze torch
> for having judged 15 CFJs.  Congratulations Alfvaen.

My my.  Well, I guess I hereby make myself a Justice.  Any free Cortex
spots, or should I create my own?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--The Grapes of Wrath:Now And Again
Current Book--Jo Clayton:Shadow of The Warmaster
And the dwarves cried giant tears.

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:07:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Retraction

I hereby retract Proposal 3357, since it's probably a good idea to repeal
Nyarlathotep as well, as the other such Proposal in the queue would do as
well.  (Great minds think alike...)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--The Grapes of Wrath:Now And Again
Current Book--Jo Clayton:Shadow of The Warmaster
$2.50 for a decade, and a buck and a half for a year

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:21:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CotC stuff

>My my.  Well, I guess I hereby make myself a Justice.  Any free Cortex
>spots, or should I create my own?

I believe there are two justices in a cortex. If you are looking for
someone, I wouldn't mind a spell on a Cortex.

CnH

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:25:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Temporary leave

(no, not from the game, I'm leaving a church to help /dev/joe achieve
something he needs)

I leave the Church of the book of Chorg.
I ask /dev/joe to join the Church of Seleya.

- --JT

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 21:34:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Temporary leave

JT wrote:
> I ask /dev/joe to join the Church of Seleya.

I approve of JT's joining my misleadingly-named cult, the Church of Seleya.

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 22:28:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Leaving

>No, I'm not leaving Acka, don't worry (incidentally, if I did would it be K
>2 or breadbox that ended up as acting speaker. I was trying to remember
>what happened when Malenkai left when he was CotC and Speaker but I
>couldn't. Anyone want to remind me?). I am leaving the Klingon political
>party. I'm growing bored with it :-). I will also note that political
>parties seem to be little more than a way of getting an extra vote every
>now and then; something could probably do with changing in that area. I
>therefore ask at this point if any other currenty existing political
>parties fancy a new member or if any non-alligned players fancy forming a
>new party. If so, get in touch.
	Not much point in sticking around here any longer.  I leave Klingon
and request admission in SPAM.

- --
- -Henry Towsner

	<[email-masked]>

	Thank heavens, the sun has gone in, and I don't have to go out and
enjoy it.
		-Logan Pearsall Smith

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 22:44:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Cortex

I hereby create a Cortex, called "Cortez's Courtly Cortege".

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Aimee Mann:Whatever
Current Book--Jo Clayton:Shadow of The Warmaster
His super power is to turn into a scotch terrier.

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 23:04:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 636 (TRUE)

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> Slakko has judged this TRUE.
> 
> CotC.
> --------------------------------------
> Call for Judgement 636 - July 31, 1998
> Subject: Weasels
> Initiator: Publius (Sent 31 July 1998, 00:41 Acka time)
> Judge: Slakko (Selected 02 Aug 1998, 10:48 Acka time)
> Judgement: TRUE
> 
> Statement:  
> 
> In Rule 309, the phrase "substantially similar"
> constitutes weasel words, as specified in the rules.
> 

> 
> Judge's Reasoning:
> 
> >From Rule 344, "Weasel Words", we have the following:
> There exist certain words whose meaning is indeterminate in some contexts.
> Such words are known as "weasel words". Any words which are
> vague, overly broad or obfuscate the intended meaning of a rule qualify as
> weasel words. 
> 
> The context in which Rule 309 contains the alleged Weasel Words is as
> follows:
> 
> If two Proposals, A and B, have identical text, or if (in the judgement of
> a judge) the game effect that would occur if Proposal A was adopted is
> substantially similar to that of Proposal B.
> 
> Now regardless of the other definitions, relying on the judgement of a
> judge to interpret what is "substantially similar" indicates that the
> phrase "substantially similar" is vague.  Hence the phrase is an instance
> of "weasel words".  I therefore judge TRUE.
> 

While I have to agree with Slakko's reasoning, I do hope that people will
vote against the proposal which "corrects" this weasel word.  This is one
of many cases in the rules where "broad" language seems more useful than
the proposed redefinition.

                                     Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 23:10:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: A new observer

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, JT wrote:

> Robert Shaw, who previously played under the name of Robin Hood has
> rejoined us as an observer.  His new email address is [email-masked]
> and I hope you will all welcome him back.  He should be subscribed to the
> lists by the time this message gets sent out.
> 
> --JT

Three iobservers in what, a week?  I haven't said hello to any of them
yet, I don't think.  So let me now say: Shove off, ya posers!  Join the
game for real!

:)

Vynd

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