Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #124
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ackanomic digest       Thursday, April 23 1998       Volume 03 : Number 124

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:35:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Bring back the Harf!

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Hubert wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The time for patience is over!  Let us have an Inquisition of Harfmeister
> > Illusion, for he is hogging the Harf!
> 
> You mean Harfmeister IdiotBoy?
> 
> I agree.  Fortunately, R1112 seems to allow the above Inquisition no
> matter who the Harfmeister is.  It's Count Tabula's turn now.

IdiotBoy is the Harfmeister?  The webpages say that Illusion is...  unless
a harfy proposal passed last night or something.  I checked the last 100
proposal and didn't see any harfy ones, so somebody had better get on the
ball.

                                    - Vynd

[email-masked]

> 
> -Hubert
> 
> I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, or insanity to anyone, but they've 
> always worked for me. 
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:45:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Bring back the Harf!

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:

> IdiotBoy is the Harfmeister?  The webpages say that Illusion is...  unless
> a harfy proposal passed last night or something.  I checked the last 100
> proposal and didn't see any harfy ones, so somebody had better get on the
> ball.
> 
>                                     - Vynd
> 
> [email-masked]

Apparently my "BAA!" voting proposal was dubbed harfy, since that's the
only proposal I've submitted which has Gone All the Way thru the queue.

IB

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:45:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Bring back the Harf!

uOn Thu, 23 Apr 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:

> IdiotBoy is the Harfmeister?  The webpages say that Illusion is...  unless
> a harfy proposal passed last night or something.  I checked the last 100
> proposal and didn't see any harfy ones, so somebody had better get on the
> ball.

2853.

Sorry - will be fixed up in a little while.
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:52:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: Vacation

Yes, it was polite.  My EBS thought so, too, even though neither of us likes
Jerry Springer either.

ThinMan

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:10:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joel Ricker" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFCJ 163 (TRUE) -- Decision

CJF 163  (TRUE)

- -- Joe Java

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

     Joel Ricker [] [email-masked] [] ICQ# 6244364
       Check out the link below for the conclusion of ImpNom28
         http://www.Geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/1047/

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:10:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joel Ricker" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 572 (TRUE)

> Joe Java has judged TRUE without reasoning.

I did too reason!! :-)

- -- Joe Java

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

     Joel Ricker [] [email-masked] [] ICQ# 6244364
       Check out the link below for the conclusion of ImpNom28
         http://www.Geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/1047/

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:36:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 576 (FALSE)

JT has judged this to be FALSE.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 576- April 23, 1998
Subject: Evil
Initiator: K 2 (sent April 22, 1998, 22:57)
Judge: JT (selected April 23, 1998, 12:57)
Judgement: FALSE

Statement:
Slakko owns a trinket called Evil.

Initiator's Reasoning:
Actually I believe Slakko doesn't own the trinket called evil (I just
wanted to be positive).

Prior to 2nd April K 2 was in possession of a trinket called evil.

On Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:42:09 K 2 posted:
...
In other news:
I destroy the town hall steps and naked for cash, apologizing to the art

and antiquities communities as I do so.
I gift evil to Hoover 2300 and don the Chartreuse Cape.
...

Thus "Evil" was transferred to Hoover 2300. This was a legal action, the
fact that this was erroneously reported does not change the fact that it
occurred.

Hoover 2300's two subsequent messages (dated Thu, 02 Apr 12:58:27 and
18:21:48) did not transfer any entities (tho e did create a trinket in
the second) thus evil remained in eir possession.

On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:10:07 K 2 posted:
I gift evil to Slakko <sigh>

Since at that time K 2 was not in possession of any gift entity called
evil this action failed (as it was impossible).

Judge's Reasoning:
  Since the digest of the ackanomic list backs up K2's claim that she gifted
'evil' to Hoover 2300 on Apr 2, the fact is she did not have it to gift
to Slakko on the 19th.  Therefore, Slakko does not have 'evil' and Hoover
2300 does.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:38:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFCJ 163 (TRUE)

Joe Java has judged this true without (written) reasoning..

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Criminal Judgment 163 (April 23)
Subject: Exhibitionism 3
Initiator: K 2  (sent April 22, 1998, 22:57)
Judge: Joe Java (selected April 23, 1998, 12:52)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:
Hubert committed the Crime of Rampant Exhibitionism on 22nd April 1998.

Initiator's Reasoning:
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:20:00 Hubert posted:
I can't resist.
I go to the Town Hall, a Common Location.
I just can't help dancing to that Truly Great song.
I dance on the Town Hall Steps.  Naked.  Uncontrollably, and making even
more of a complete fool of myself than is usual.

This was a crime according to rule 842 as:
i) it was not the second Tuesday of a month
ii) e did not pay $A2 to breadbox (The First Citizen)
iii) the dance was not described in verse.

rule 842 states:
Failure to comply to these requirements constitutes the crime of Rampant
Exhibitionism.

The offender should be burned as a witch, eir ashes scattered across the
entire banna shaped earth and eir land sown with salt.

Suggested Penalty:
A 22 line apology. (preferably in verse approved by both the poet
laureate and the first citizen)

Judge's Reasoning:
[None]

Actual Penalty:
[None Given]

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:49:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 163 (TRUE)

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> Suggested Penalty:
> A 22 line apology. (preferably in verse approved by both the poet
> laureate and the first citizen)
> 
> Judge's Reasoning:
> [None]
> 
> Actual Penalty:
> [None Given]

Does this mean that the suggested penalty stands?

Two tips to Joe:
1. Give reasoning - we can't determine whether you're right or not unless
you explain why.
2. Impose penalties on TRUE CFCJs - otherwise people will just call for
outlandish penalties and have them automatically imposed.
3. Send your verdicts to the CotC _privately_
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:51:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Schmidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 163 (TRUE)

> Joe Java has judged this true without (written) reasoning..
>
> Clerk of the Courts
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Call For Criminal Judgment 163 (April 23)
> Subject: Exhibitionism 3
> Initiator: K 2  (sent April 22, 1998, 22:57)
> Judge: Joe Java (selected April 23, 1998, 12:52)
> Judgement: TRUE
>
> Statement:
> Hubert committed the Crime of Rampant Exhibitionism on 22nd April 1998.
>
> Initiator's Reasoning:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:20:00 Hubert posted:
> I can't resist.
> I go to the Town Hall, a Common Location.
> I just can't help dancing to that Truly Great song.
> I dance on the Town Hall Steps.  Naked.  Uncontrollably, and making even
> more of a complete fool of myself than is usual.
>
> This was a crime according to rule 842 as:
> i) it was not the second Tuesday of a month
> ii) e did not pay $A2 to breadbox (The First Citizen)
> iii) the dance was not described in verse.
>
> rule 842 states:
> Failure to comply to these requirements constitutes the crime of Rampant
> Exhibitionism.
>
> The offender should be burned as a witch, eir ashes scattered across the
> entire banna shaped earth and eir land sown with salt.
>
> Suggested Penalty:
> A 22 line apology. (preferably in verse approved by both the poet
> laureate and the first citizen)
>
> Judge's Reasoning:
> [None]
>
> Actual Penalty:
> [None Given]

I appeal this case.
Appealer's reasoning: Joe Java judged the existance of a crime
TRUE without penalising it. He should at least have given a
written reasoning for doing so. Suggested penalty for Joe Java:
1 point deduction.

J. M. Bear

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:01:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 163 (TRUE)

On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Frank Schmidt wrote:

> I appeal this case.
> Appealer's reasoning: Joe Java judged the existance of a crime
> TRUE without penalising it. He should at least have given a
> written reasoning for doing so. Suggested penalty for Joe Java:
> 1 point deduction.
> 
> J. M. Bear
> 

So you want to overturn the crime, just to get a 1 point deduction?

Is what Joe did criminal?  I doubt it.  I, for one, have always (ok, well
usually) been impressed with the quality of research and vardicts in Acka
regardless of my personal feeling on the "correct" verdict.  But.. I don't
think it is "wrong" that Joe gave us "summary judgement" :)

IB

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:03:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 163 (TRUE)

> Is what Joe did criminal?  I doubt it.  I, for one, have always (ok, well
> usually) been impressed with the quality of research and vardicts in Acka
> regardless of my personal feeling on the "correct" verdict.  But.. I don't
> think it is "wrong" that Joe gave us "summary judgement" :)

I may be wrong here but I think that this should be invalid due to having a
higher number of 2 CFCJs on exactly the same subject. I may of course be
wrong though.

TGW.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:24:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Schmidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 163 (TRUE)

> > Is what Joe did criminal?  I doubt it.  I, for one, have always (ok, well
> > usually) been impressed with the quality of research and vardicts in Acka
> > regardless of my personal feeling on the "correct" verdict.  But.. I don't
> > think it is "wrong" that Joe gave us "summary judgement" :)
>
> I may be wrong here but I think that this should be invalid due to having a
> higher number of 2 CFCJs on exactly the same subject. I may of course be
> wrong though.
>
> TGW

I retract my appeal, if I made one, and if it's allowed to retract appeals.

I failed to look into the correct rules (in the 700s, not 200s), so I thought
no penalty was given, when in fact the suggested penalty was given.

I turn A$163 into a Trinket named "A mirror #x", with x being replaced by
the lowest positive integer giving the Trinket a unique name. Its description
is: "On first look this seems to be a quite ordinary mirror, but the longer
you look into it, the more of your hidden sides you see - which can be
quite frightening at times."

J. M. Bear

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:48:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The Vault

I would like to go to the library, and thence to *That* room. I am
irristibly drawn to read the infamous tome.

I then go back to the Party Hall.

Koxvolio

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:59:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Using a Secret Laboratory.

We, the Church to the Evil Ballot Stuffer wish to announce the following:

We are beginning construction of a new Evil Ballot Stuffer, to be created
in the possession of Ayla. This will be ready in three days.

All Hail! All Hail! Let the Ballots be Stuffed.
Koxvolio.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:17:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Inventor

Since there seems to be a market for them, I am beginning
construction of a Scroll of Crumble.  It will be complete
in three days.

/dev/joe
Inventor (are there any threads left alive where I am not?)

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:42:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Inventor

> Since there seems to be a market for them, I am beginning
> construction of a Scroll of Crumble.  It will be complete
> in three days.
> 
> /dev/joe
> Inventor (are there any threads left alive where I am not?)

I think that it's still not official until your cortex returns a verdict on a
CFJ but I realise now that you almost certainly are (you fiend!)

TGW, almost inventor.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:15:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 163 (TRUE)

> I may be wrong here but I think that this should be invalid due to
> having a higher number of 2 CFCJs on exactly the same subject. I may
> of course be wrong though.

I believe the "double jeopardy" clause of Rule 710 means that CFCJ 163
was distributed in error, and therefore never existed.

breadbox

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:40:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: APology

I would like to apologize to the Church of the Evil Ballot Stuffer for
portraying them as being grievously in debt.  This is entirely my fault
for not having put the A$650 transfer from SPAM into the entitylog for
the flimsy reason that I haven't figured out when precisely it occurred.
I did mean to, but I got caught up in trying to fix the Otzma Cards
thing instead.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--ABBA:Love Songs
Current Book--Dashiell Hammett:The Glass Key
It might, it might rain money.  It might, it might rain love.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:42:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Apology 2

Also, I haven't done the most recent "Harf the Mail" score changes yet
either.  Hey, I'm glad I got as much done as I did last night...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--ABBA:Love Songs
Current Book--Dashiell Hammett:The Glass Key
When cryptography is outlawed, only xumweer snoeykq ijpqrgm pziebtcc

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:48:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Bring back the Harf!

> > You mean Harfmeister IdiotBoy?

> > I agree.  Fortunately, R1112 seems to allow the above Inquisition no
> > matter who the Harfmeister is.  It's Count Tabula's turn now.

> IdiotBoy is the Harfmeister?  The webpages say that Illusion is...  unless
> a harfy proposal passed last night or something.  I checked the last 100
> proposal and didn't see any harfy ones, so somebody had better get on the
> ball.

Well, _some_ of the webpages may say that Illusion is, but my pages, the
Scores page and the PE page, should say that IdiotBoy is.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--ABBA:Love Songs
Current Book--Dashiell Hammett:The Glass Key
The mome rath isn't born that could outgrabe me.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:56:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Ackanomicon Determination

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# Player: Koxvolio
# Ackanomicon determination
# based on the following (using a 50 sided die):
# 1 -15: arcane trivia
# 16-20: vile prophecies
# 21-25: inner workings
# 26-30: arcane lore
# 31-33: terrorizing pages
# 34-34: ancient artifact
# 35-36: mutation
# 37-38: dark domain
# 39-39: the secret
# 40-41: long lost treasure
# 42-43: doomsday
# 44-44: forbidden fruit
# 45-45: catastrophe
# 46-49: not so forbidden fruit
# 50-50: ancient one
# Alfvaen

No. of sides on every die:     50
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

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> 
> #P [email-masked]
> #S 50
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Ackanomicon Determination
> 
> #C Player: Koxvolio
> #C Ackanomicon determination
> #C based on the following (using a 50 sided die):
> #C 1 -15: arcane trivia
> #C 16-20: vile prophecies
> #C 21-25: inner workings
> #C 26-30: arcane lore
> #C 31-33: terrorizing pages
> #C 34-34: ancient artifact
> #C 35-36: mutation
> #C 37-38: dark domain
> #C 39-39: the secret
> #C 40-41: long lost treasure
> #C 42-43: doomsday
> #C 44-44: forbidden fruit
> #C 45-45: catastrophe
> #C 46-49: not so forbidden fruit
> #C 50-50: ancient one
> #C Alfvaen
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:58:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Sounds good

> >I have some principles, I'm afraid, and not having heard the song(what
> >album is it from?

> It was their first single and also appears on the first eponymously titled
> album

Ah.  I have "Stranded", and I think their last three or four("Manifesto",
"Flesh And Blood", "Avalon", and the live album "Heart Still Beating"),
but nothing really early.  It usually takes me a while to get into one
of their albums...

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--ABBA:Love Songs
Current Book--Dashiell Hammett:The Glass Key
Six crazy kings vowed to abolish my quite pitiful jousts.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:36:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: GBS Harfy Lever

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# Sorry, just got around to reading the Blueprint or I would've done
# this earlier.
# For the first roll:
#   1-3: GBS votes for all Harfy Proposals in queue
#   4-6: One Bonus Vote awarded to all players
#   7-9: GBS owner receives random Boon
# 10-12: Game state non-harf penalty
# For the second roll:
#   1-4: GBS breaks
#   5-8: GBS explodes
#  9-12: GBS teleports
# Alfvaen

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> #C Player: Joe Java
> #C
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> #C this earlier.
> #C
> #C For the first roll:
> #C   1-3: GBS votes for all Harfy Proposals in queue
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:36:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Adjustments

> > The most important is that way back in January, The Gingham Wearer
> > auctioned off eir Otzma Card Untouch Me to Niccolo Flychuck.  As a
> > result, this card was not buried in Treasure 195, which, since the
> > destruction of the Chartreuse Goose Egg in it, now consists only of
> > an Automatic Sculpture.

> I'm almost certain that this is wrong. I think I had 2, auctioned off one and
> then buried the other. I don't have time to go through the archives at the
> moment but I'm almost certain this is the case.

I do note that when you auctioned your Untouch Me card you weren't sure
whether you had one or two.  Let me see...

Okay, I do find a Random Dice Server message from Malenkai awarding you
an Untouch Me card for reading from a Spell Book of Chorg.  What I have
yet to find is the message where you read from it.  Or, for that matter,
any evidence that you ever owned a Spell Book of Chorg.  I can't find any.
Or maybe this was the Arcane Wisdom from the Ackanomicon one, which I
already have recorded.  Never mind.  Malenkai just picked it improperly.

I can't find any other Untouch Me cards for you.  Sorry, you'll have to
provide better documentation.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--The Eels:Beautiful Freak
Current Book--Dashiell Hammett:The Glass Key
Stupid == nothing to say, and a worldwide network to say it on.  --billbill

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:49:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT Traub <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: Flora Amanita

the player found treasure

- --JT
Valiantly trying yet another guess.

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:50:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Boon determination

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# player: Joe Java
# I am using the dice server to determine the boon from the
# Evil Ballot Stuffer based on the following (using a 100 sided die):
# 1 -45: ancient artifact (random gadget)
# 46-70: ancient scroll (random otzma card)
# 71-80: gods are smiling (bonus vote)
# 81-87: ancient relic (trinket worth A$75)
# 88-92: ancient knowledge (new blueprint)
# 93-97: ancient wisdom (new otzma card)
# 98-99: gods are bored (pointy ears)
#  100 : gods are grouchy (chartreuse goose)
# Alfvaen

No. of sides on every die:    100
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

     50

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> From [email-masked]  Thu Apr 23 20:50:05 1998
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>       id UAA14007 for <[email-masked]>; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:50:05 -0700
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> Subject: Acka: Boon
> To: [email-masked]
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:51:18 -0600 (MDT)
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
> Content-Type: text
> 
> 
> #P [email-masked]
> #S 100
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Boon determination
> 
> #C player: Joe Java
> #C I am using the dice server to determine the boon from the
> #C Evil Ballot Stuffer based on the following (using a 100 sided die):
> #C 1 -45: ancient artifact (random gadget)
> #C 46-70: ancient scroll (random otzma card)
> #C 71-80: gods are smiling (bonus vote)
> #C 81-87: ancient relic (trinket worth A$75)
> #C 88-92: ancient knowledge (new blueprint)
> #C 93-97: ancient wisdom (new otzma card)
> #C 98-99: gods are bored (pointy ears)
> #C  100 : gods are grouchy (chartreuse goose)
> #C Alfvaen
> 

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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:59:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: GBS Boon Random OC determination

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# Player: Joe Java
# I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
# delivered from the Good Ballot Stuffer's Boon of the Ancients
# according to the following schedule:
# 1 - go fish
# 2 - map shard
# 3 - untouch me
# 4 - share my expenses
# 5 - share your income
# 6 - tactical retreat
# 7 - paratroop
# 8 - truthseeker
# 9 - scientist for a day
# 10 - art thief
# 11 - grave robber
# 12 - fix my gadget
# No skeleton key(max in play
# No summon tornado(max in play)
# No swinging sale(max in play)
# No foul fowl(max in play)

No. of sides on every die:     12
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

     12

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Original message follows:
> From [email-masked]  Thu Apr 23 20:58:36 1998
> Received: (from smtp@localhost) by xkey.com
>       id UAA14170 for <[email-masked]>; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 20:58:36 -0700
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>       id sma014132; Thu Apr 23 20:58:23 1998
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> Subject: Acka: Otzma
> To: [email-masked]
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 21:00:06 -0600 (MDT)
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
> Content-Type: text
> 
> 
> #P [email-masked]
> #S 12
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: GBS Boon Random OC determination
> 
> #C Player: Joe Java
> #C I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
> #C delivered from the Good Ballot Stuffer's Boon of the Ancients
> #C according to the following schedule:
> #C 1 - go fish
> #C 2 - map shard
> #C 3 - untouch me
> #C 4 - share my expenses
> #C 5 - share your income
> #C 6 - tactical retreat
> #C 7 - paratroop
> #C 8 - truthseeker
> #C 9 - scientist for a day
> #C 10 - art thief
> #C 11 - grave robber
> #C 12 - fix my gadget
> #C No skeleton key(max in play
> #C No summon tornado(max in play)
> #C No swinging sale(max in play)
> #C No foul fowl(max in play)
> 

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