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ackanomic digest        Monday, April 20 1998        Volume 03 : Number 117

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 00:15:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Ambassador

On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> else is required for ambassadorness.  (Says the Ackanomic player who
> is perhaps the most apathetic toward Internomic...)

That I seriously doubt.  I'll fight you for the title if you want.  
I barely know what the darned thing is.

- -Hubert

Quoth the Raven, "Eat my shorts." 

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 02:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Internomic Q?

Guy Fawkes distributed the 5 Internomic Proposals.
TGW is now Ambassador - does he have to institute a second Hearing or does
he just have to get the votes from the first one?

Yours,
Slakko
why does the Ambassadorship always change hands when an Inter Proposal is
on the table
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:31:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Suggestion

I suggest that the Razor Boomerangs transfer A$529 to the Order of the
Razor Boomerang.  

I approve of this suggestion.

- -Hubert

Two men in a Yugo were arrested following last night's push-by shooting. 

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 05:01:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The Burning Mountain

In a shocking message three days ago, the being who was destined to later
become the putative winner of the current Cycle stated, when asked about
the shape of the elusive and indescribably amorphous banna, that it was
earth-shaped.  The populace of Acka, with little dissidence, recognized
this comment for the heresy it was.  Voting on the issue was as follows:

BURN THE WITCH!
Attila the Pun
JT
Koxvolio
Koxvolio's EBS
Rex Mundi
Rex Mundi's EBS
Vynd
Vynd's EBS

No! E said the Earth was flat!
Alfvaen 
Hubert
K 2
Pandora 
rufus

BAA!
TGW

Therefore, by a margin of 8 to 5 [to 1], K 2 was found to be so heretical 
that only one of eir fellow bannists voted to save em.  As Witchfinder
General, I have only this to say on the matter:

Burn, baby, burn.

- -Hubert

Is it OK to yell "MOVIE!" in a crowded firehouse? 

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:09:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: Are we that busy?

RS wrote:

>>> Maybe I've taken to advertising Acka again -- I once got quite a good
>>> number of people to join Acka in a fairly short amount of time, just
>>> through strategic advertising.
>>> 
>>> Of course, that wasn't a good thing. Probably why the office of the
>>> Publicist ceased to exist.
>>
>>That was how I joined!
>>Straight into the Quorum Crisis. 
>>Niccolo Flychuck
>
>I'm pleased to know that at least some good came of it. I think you may be
>the only player who joined during that era who is still around today...

No, he isn't.  I came to Acka because of your post to rgpbm.  I observed for
a while, being one of the few (the only?) observers in history to actually
comment on the game in the public forum.  Eventually I decided I might as
well jump in.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:11:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: EBS-Church

The Faithful of the Church to the Evil Ballot Stuffer rejoices at the
acquisition of another priest - Slakko - who joins us with his EBS to add
praise to The Great One.

We inaugurate him as a Priest, and initiate him into the Greater
Mysteries.

Koxvolio

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:16:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: church of the evil ballot stuffer

Will this church take me even with out an EBS?

rufus

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:27:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Trade

I offer to trade Hubert a Fowl Foul Otzma card for A$50.

                                    - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:36:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 570 (FALSE)

>I give the Wizard office to ThinMan.

I accept the office of Wizard from /dev/joe.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:01:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT Traub <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Suggestion

Hubert wrote:
>Subject: Acka: Suggestion
>I suggest that the Razor Boomerangs transfer A$529 to the Order of the
>Razor Boomerang.  
>
>I approve of this suggestion.

The harf is back and I want a winter cap.

I also approve of this suggestion.

- --JT

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:02:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joel Ricker" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: House

> > I am renaming my house "'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves/Did gyre
> etc.
> 
> > Why not?
> 
> Because you've just completely stuffed the map.  Try fitting that into
> 60x60 pixels :-(
> 
> Yours,
>Slakko

Just use one pixel and say it has been shrunk down to fit :-)

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

     Joel Ricker [] [email-masked] [] ICQ# 6244364
       Check out the link below for the conclusion of ImpNom28
         http://www.Geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/1047/

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:02:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joel Ricker" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Web site changes

> >The sites I am maintaining as Clerk of the Courts have moved. They can now be
> 	Excellent.  Geocities was pretty annoying.

For those of you using Geocities and don't want to have the Geoguide 
(big ad banner on the page) and also don't want the popups, here is 
something to do with CSS (not sure if the SPAN tag is exactly right 
but you get the idea).

<SPAN display:none>
<!--Geoguide-->
</SPAN>

You'll also have to turn the GEOGUIDE on.  This will stop the popup 
ads plus you won't have the big ad banner either.

- -- Joe Java

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

     Joel Ricker [] [email-masked] [] ICQ# 6244364
       Check out the link below for the conclusion of ImpNom28
         http://www.Geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/1047/

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:02:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joel Ricker" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Poll 

Slakko, 

  Quite impressed with the new layout... even more impressed with the 
fact that there is a World Wide Web now :-).  Looks great, keep up 
the good work.

  In other news, Eleusis Nomic is going us in the ashes of impnom.  I 
hope that this endeavor is much more successful than the last.  JT is 
going to be our first GOD.  May we all worship his holiness :-)

  Thats all for now.. Layter
  Joe Java

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

     Joel Ricker [] [email-masked] [] ICQ# 6244364
       Check out the link below for the conclusion of ImpNom28
         http://www.Geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/1047/

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:38:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2855 rejected

> SHEEP gives A$2 to /dev/joe as an Organization Action.

I approve this action.  I proxy my approval to SHEEP.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:56:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: location

I leave the wilds and go to the library.  I go to *that* room.

rufus

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:57:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: Loose Ends

>I suggest that The Rebellion disband.  I also suggest that the Committee
>For Understanding disband.  Both have served their purpose.

I approve of both suggestions.  ;-)

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 10:57:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Bury

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> what the name of your record label is(once you've joined the game
> online).  This time, for my own convenience, I'd like them to have
> the string "Acka" in them, so I can search for them all at once.  Those
> who still have labels left over from last round can use those again,
> but should still let me know.  And you can only have one each; if you
> have more than one, then let me know which one is competing, and if
> you have more than one with that name then none are eligible.

I have chosen the record label "Chewy Tasty Ackasmaks"

IB

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:01:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: church of the evil ballot stuffer

> Will this church take me even with out an EBS?
> 
> rufus

Absolutely! For those who wish the opportunity to worship the Great Evil
Ballot Stuffer, not only do we accept you into the congregation, but we
will even try to procure you an EBS of your very own to worship with!

Koxvolio

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:04:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: church of the evil ballot stuffer

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Ian K. wrote:

> Absolutely! For those who wish the opportunity to worship the Great Evil
> Ballot Stuffer, not only do we accept you into the congregation, but we
> will even try to procure you an EBS of your very own to worship with!

I would like to join this church.

ruf

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:08:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2895

>I'm getting to the stage where the FM appears to be scambait and very
>little else.  I wouldn't mind seeing Rules 596 and 597 bite the dust.

I have believed that for quite some time.  I am ready to see those rules
go.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:09:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: We are The True Faith

I seek knowledge of the mysteries of the Evil Ballot Stuffer.  I request
to join the Church of the Evil Ballot Stuffer.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:09:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joel Ricker" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Suggestion

> Hubert wrote:
> >Subject: Acka: Suggestion
> >I suggest that the Razor Boomerangs transfer A$529 to the Order of the
> >Razor Boomerang.  
> >
> >I approve of this suggestion.
> 
> The harf is back and I want a winter cap.
> 
> I also approve of this suggestion.

Me too!

- -- JJ

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

     Joel Ricker [] [email-masked] [] ICQ# 6244364
       Check out the link below for the conclusion of ImpNom28
         http://www.Geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/1047/

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:10:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: church of the evil ballot stuffer

> > Absolutely! For those who wish the opportunity to worship the Great Evil
> > Ballot Stuffer, not only do we accept you into the congregation, but we
> > will even try to procure you an EBS of your very own to worship with!
> 
> I would like to join this church.
> 
> ruf

With Joy at the prospect of Stuffing Ballots together, we accept you and
initiate you into the Lesser Mysteries!

Koxvolio

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:16:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2895

> >I'm getting to the stage where the FM appears to be scambait and very
> >little else.  I wouldn't mind seeing Rules 596 and 597 bite the dust.
> 
> I have believed that for quite some time.  I am ready to see those rules
> go.
> ThinMan

Me too. I don't really understand them anyway.

Koxvolio

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:17:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: We are The True Faith

> I seek knowledge of the mysteries of the Evil Ballot Stuffer.  I request
> to join the Church of the Evil Ballot Stuffer.
> 
> ThinMan

Overjoyed at the growth of our congregation, we welcome yet another
convert - ThinMan - to our cause. Let the Ballots be Stuffed!

Koxvolio

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:31:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: Election

Slakko wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, H*bert wrote:
>
>> In any case, I just wanted to announce my intent to bribe players to write
>> me in.
>> 
>> > Thanks,
>> > Robert "I'm casting a write-in vote for myself" Sevin
>> 
>> -Hu "Vote for me and I'll give you A$50" bert
>
>I have to top this, don't I.
>
>Slak "Vote for me and I'll get H*bert to give you A$100" ko

Okay, Mr. President, I voted for you.  Now I want you to come through on
your campaign promise.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:33:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: A C K extra

/dev/joe,

With regard to the Games word-packing contest, you wrote:
> [Exact dimensions and entry instructions available upon request.]

I would like that information, please.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Suggestion

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, JT Traub wrote:

> Hubert wrote:
> >Subject: Acka: Suggestion
> >I suggest that the Razor Boomerangs transfer A$529 to the Order of the
> >Razor Boomerang.  
> >
> >I approve of this suggestion.
> 
> The harf is back and I want a winter cap.

More information please.

Yours,
Slakko
who has read Rule 1136 thoroughly
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:37:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: The Infrequent Ackan Volume 1 Issue 19

>Duel Summary

[...]

>Meanwhile, The Gingham Wearer won a Ghost duel. Perhaps his attempts at
>Duelling are aimed at fulfilling a certain little Agenda Hat, but who
>knows?

I believe that it was JT who won the duel, and TGW who refereed it.  I
request a retraction.

ThinMan
gunning for sub-editors

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:40:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: ^

>>I'm more inclined to accept your second claim - that CFJ 571 is not a
>>Cycle Win CFJ.  Not even should Proposal 2878 pass (which would specify
>>that e has achieved a Winning Condition).  However, it does stop you
>>submitting it for 7 days by the Substantially Similar CFJ rules.
>>
>Which only apply to similar CFJ from the same author or _PWCFJ_ not CWCFJs
>
>(I just checked)

CWCFJs are CFJs.  The rule concerning them says so.  So are PWCFJs, for that
matter.  PWCFJs get special treatment for largely historic reasons.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:55:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Another Priest for the Church to the Evil Ballot Stuffer

ThinMan, by virtue of possessing an EBS of his very own, is hereby
ordained as a priest into the Church of the EBS.

All Hail! All Hail! He has an Evil Ballot Stuffer!

Koxvolio

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:40:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Ambassador

> I am appointing The Gingham Wearer to be Acting Ambassador.  I imagine
> e'll have to subscribe to the Internomic mailing list and do whatever
> else is required for ambassadorness.  (Says the Ackanomic player who
> is perhaps the most apathetic toward Internomic...)

Well, I'm subscribed to the internomic mailing list but I'm not sure what
else I need to do. I'll look into it.

TGW, acting ambassador.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:40:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Internomic Q?

> Guy Fawkes distributed the 5 Internomic Proposals.
> TGW is now Ambassador - does he have to institute a second Hearing or does
> he just have to get the votes from the first one?

I don't know. I think probably if I just take votes on the current one. If
that's not right then maybe we could just fail to notice it for a few weeks
:-).

> Yours,
> Slakko
> why does the Ambassadorship always change hands when an Inter Proposal is
> on the table

I believe it is known as "Sod's Law" :-).

TGW.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:40:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 573 (TRUE)

Hubert has judged this TRUE.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 573- April 19, 1998
Subject: Undead Actions
Initiator: K 2 (sent April 19, 1998, 01:16)
Judge: Hubert (selected April 19, 1998, 06:44)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:
K 2 owns a vending machine

Initiator's Reasoning:
Rule 258:
Entities that are owned by Undead cannot be manipulated in any way
except by an action of the Undead.

The undead Bascule posted a public message on Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:19:14
transferring eir vending machine to K 2, this constituted an action by
the undead.

Judge's Reasoning:
While Rule 373 states that "Any _active_ player may attempt any public 
action..." (emphasis mine) and so forth, it explicitly defers precedence
to Rule 258, which explicitly takes precedence.

Although the Rules are very clear on the distinction between players and
Undead, they are less clear on the distinction between Actions taken by
either.  I am pretty sure that R258 was intended to allow only
Rule-sanctioned actions on the part of an Undead (e.g. the transfer of
the Goose or the Unhanding of a Trinket) but couldn't find any clause in
the Rules saying so.  Thus, I am obliged to render a judgment of TRUE.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:55:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Election

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:

> Okay, Mr. President, I voted for you.  Now I want you to come through on
> your campaign promise.

Who is H*bert?

Tell me who you want the money from and I'll see what I can do :-)

- -- 
Duncan C. "evil and nasty" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:03:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: More church

I am announcing my intent to found the church of the good ballot stuffer. It
is intended not just for those who own GBSs but also for anyone who, like me,
doesn't like EBSs. It will also be dedicated to opposing the church of the
EBS.

TGW.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:05:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Election

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:
> 
> > Okay, Mr. President, I voted for you.  Now I want you to come through on
> > your campaign promise.
> 
> Who is H*bert?
> 
> Tell me who you want the money from and I'll see what I can do :-)
> 

Hey, ThinMan, I've got an itchin' to be a second in a duel which is not
with a walking talking dictionary.

Just thought you'd like to know.
IB

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:07:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: More church

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> I am announcing my intent to found the church of the good ballot stuffer. It
> is intended not just for those who own GBSs but also for anyone who, like me,
> doesn't like EBSs. It will also be dedicated to opposing the church of the
> EBS.
> 
> TGW.
> 

I would like to be considered for membership in the church of the good
ballot stuffer.

IB
"Let's start the Fued!"

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:25:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank Schmidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: More church

> I would like to be considered for membership in the church of the good
> ballot stuffer.
>
> IB

Argh... more ballot stuffing. I would like to become a member in the
Church of the Markovian Dream.

J. M. Bear

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:28:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: More church

> Argh... more ballot stuffing. I would like to become a member in the
> Church of the Markovian Dream.

I may as well take this opportunity to point out that I'm still hoping to
join the Church of Markovian Dream as andwhen CnH wakes up :-)...

TGW.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:42:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT Traub <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Election

Idiot Boy said:
>Hey, ThinMan, I've got an itchin' to be a second in a duel which is not
>with a walking talking dictionary.

Hrmm.. I'm feeling slightly offended here :)
- --JT

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:47:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:  Acka: The Infrequent Ackan Volume 1 Issue 19

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:

> 
> >Duel Summary
> 
> [...]
> 
> >Meanwhile, The Gingham Wearer won a Ghost duel. Perhaps his attempts at
> >Duelling are aimed at fulfilling a certain little Agenda Hat, but who
> >knows?
> 
> I believe that it was JT who won the duel, and TGW who refereed it.  I
> request a retraction.

I retract this statement *blam*.

Yours,
Slakko
Editor, The Infrequent Ackan
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:58:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: Election

Slakko wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:
>
>> Okay, Mr. President, I voted for you.  Now I want you to come through on
>> your campaign promise.
>
>Who is H*bert?
>
>Tell me who you want the money from and I'll see what I can do :-)

Don't try to weasel out on this one, Mr. President.  You know what you
promised, and I'm here to collect.  Don't think that just because you're
President and I'm just a lowly Justice, Gaoler, former Senator, ex-Financier,
and once-acting Speaker that you can trod all over me!  I crossed party lines
to vote for you, rejecting another former President whom I a certain would
have promptly fulfilled every single one of _his_ campaign promises.  Hear
that rumbling sound?  It's Elder Mr. Lunatic Fringe turning over in his grave!

ThinMan
"from whom you want the money"  :-)

P.S. You're not a walking talking dictionary, are you?  TM

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:15:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Trade

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:

> 
> I offer to trade Hubert a Fowl Foul Otzma card for A$50.

I accept this offer.

- -Hubert

2+2=5 for extremely large values of 2. 

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:28:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Burning Mountain

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> all know that the earth is not flat. Nor is it round or hemispherical. We all
> know that it is banna really.
> 
> TGW, who must have made more heretical comments than anyone else who hasn't
> had a witch-hunt called against em.

*Sigh.*  I am calling a Witchhunt against The Gingham Wearer for the above
message. I am Witchfinder General, reply to this message to immolate this
infidel in the flames of eternal Unharf.

If you can't tell already, I'm getting somewhat sick of the smugness of
the banna types in claiming that the Earth is banna-shaped.  I'm ready and
willing to burn them all.

Is the new Church of the EBS going to start insisting that the Earth has a
large lever and a small lever, and is green?

- -Hubert

2+2=5 for extremely large values of 2. 

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:32:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 573 appeal

> Judge's Reasoning:
> While Rule 373 states that "Any _active_ player may attempt any public 
> action..." (emphasis mine) and so forth, it explicitly defers precedence
> to Rule 258, which explicitly takes precedence.
> 
> Although the Rules are very clear on the distinction between players and
> Undead, they are less clear on the distinction between Actions taken by
> either.  I am pretty sure that R258 was intended to allow only
> Rule-sanctioned actions on the part of an Undead (e.g. the transfer of
> the Goose or the Unhanding of a Trinket) but couldn't find any clause in
> the Rules saying so.  Thus, I am obliged to render a judgment of TRUE.

Eggh. I am *really* behind, but I'm going to respond to this now
before any thread-splitting gets out of hand.

I am appealing this CFJ with the following paragraph as my reasoning:

  There's one small point that's been overlooked here. Undead are NOT
  players. Rule 373 doesn't even begin to apply to them. An undead can
  no more be controlled by its likeness than your bookmark can read
  your book for you.

Which reminds me - I don't believe Mr. Lunatic Fringe's recent message
to this list had any effect. As I recall, he attempted to join the
game, perform an action, and leave the game, all in the same message.
However, a player does not become a player until the Registrar has
made the necessary announcement, so his action could not have been
performed.

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:35:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Burning Mountain

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Hubert wrote:z

> 
> If you can't tell already, I'm getting somewhat sick of the smugness of
> the banna types in claiming that the Earth is banna-shaped.  I'm ready and
> willing to burn them all.
Can't handle the truth, Hubert?  
> 
> Is the new Church of the EBS going to start insisting that the Earth has a
> large lever and a small lever, and is green?

In what why would this be inconsistent with the Earth's banna nature?  

rufus

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:02:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 573 appeal

> Which reminds me - I don't believe Mr. Lunatic Fringe's recent message
> to this list had any effect. As I recall, he attempted to join the
> game, perform an action, and leave the game, all in the same message.
> However, a player does not become a player until the Registrar has
> made the necessary announcement, so his action could not have been
> performed.

In that case, isn't he a player at the moment? If e joined but then failed in
an attempt to leave because e hadn't *joined* joined then... oh, forget it!

TGW.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:06:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 573 appeal

>In that case, isn't he a player at the moment? If e joined but then failed in
>an attempt to leave because e hadn't *joined* joined then... oh, forget it!

Did the Registrar ever officially add him?

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:13:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

Can I call him "Tim"?

Please?

IB

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:22:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

IdiotBoy wrote:

>Can I call him "Tim"?
>
>Please?

To the north there lies a cave....

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:38:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Burning Mountain

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, David Scheidt wrote:

> > If you can't tell already, I'm getting somewhat sick of the smugness of
> > the banna types in claiming that the Earth is banna-shaped.  I'm ready and
> > willing to burn them all.
>
> Can't handle the truth, Hubert?  

The truth is that The Earth is round.  Check out your own Trinket page.

Sheesh.

> > Is the new Church of the EBS going to start insisting that the Earth has a
> > large lever and a small lever, and is green?
> 
> In what why would this be inconsistent with the Earth's banna nature?  

In no why.  If, that is, the Earth should ever have a banna nature.  Me, I
feel its nature is more benevolent, but slightly spiteful when provoked.

- -Hubert

When in Rome, do as the Visigoths do. 

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:49:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

ThinMan wrote:

> IdiotBoy wrote:
> 
> >Can I call him "Tim"?
> >
> >Please?
> 
> To the north there lies a cave....

Have I missed something? Or is this an old, old joke? (Not just an old joke,
but an old, old joke).

TGW.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:57:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> ThinMan wrote:
> 
> > IdiotBoy wrote:
> > 
> > >Can I call him "Tim"?
> > >
> > >Please?
> > 
> > To the north there lies a cave....
> 
> Have I missed something? Or is this an old, old joke? (Not just an old joke,
> but an old, old joke).
> 
> TGW.
> 

Well, it appears now to be a combination of two jokes, including one
MP film..

I think we joked about the MP film at the time of the other joke tho to..

IB

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:00:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

TGW wrote:

>ThinMan wrote:
>
>> IdiotBoy wrote:
>> 
>> >Can I call him "Tim"?
>> >
>> >Please?
>> 
>> To the north there lies a cave....
>
>Have I missed something? Or is this an old, old joke? (Not just an old joke,
>but an old, old joke).

Probably and maybe.  I bet there are some around here who got it; I'll give
one of them a chance to clue you in.  :-)

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:03:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> > To the north there lies a cave....
> 
> Have I missed something? Or is this an old, old joke? (Not just an old joke,
> but an old, old joke).

This, TGW, is why you're being slowly condemned to burn as we speak.

Let Acka rejoice!

And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and
sloths, and carps, and anchovies, and fruit bats, and breakfast cereals...

It is, I would say, a fair cop.

- -Hubert, who does get Monty Python jokes

Black holes are where God divided by zero. 

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:12:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

Rhymes With Q-Bert wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:
>
>> > To the north there lies a cave....
>> 
>> Have I missed something? Or is this an old, old joke? (Not just an old joke,
>> but an old, old joke).
>
>This, TGW, is why you're being slowly condemned to burn as we speak.
>
>Let Acka rejoice!
>
>And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and
>sloths, and carps, and anchovies, and fruit bats, and breakfast cereals...
>
>It is, I would say, a fair cop.
>
>-H*bert, who does get Monty Python jokes

Pretty good.  Although it's "[...] and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats,
[and limes ...]"

ThinMan
"Skip a bit, Brother."

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:19:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:

> Pretty good.  Although it's "[...] and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats,
> [and limes ...]"

Are you trying to get me into... an _argument_?

> ThinMan
> "Skip a bit, Brother."

- -Hubert
"Oh, I've had enough of this."
"No, you haven't."

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:21:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Mr. Lunatic Fringe.

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:

from memory:

king arthur: can you help us find the Grail?
tim: yes
all: thank you!
tim: To the north there lies a cave.  the cave of king garbleygook,
wherein carved in magic runes upon the living rock, the last words of
someone or other of someplace and something proclaim the last resting
place of the Holy Grail.
Arthur:  Where can we find this cave, O lord Tim?
Tim: Follow! But follow only if ye be men of valor, for the entrance to
this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no man yet has
faught with it and lived! Bones of men lie strewn about its lair. So Brave
Knights, if you do doubt your courage or your strenght, come no further,
for death awaits wit nasty big pointy teeth.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:24:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Church Membership Request

I petition to join the Church of the Good Ballot Stuffer, should such an
entity exist.  TGW assures me it does, though I must have missed the
message delineating its creation.

- -Hubert

yip! yip! yip! yap! yap! yip! *BANG* -- NO TERRIER 

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:28:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 573 appeal

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:

> 
> >In that case, isn't he a player at the moment? If e joined but then failed in
> >an attempt to leave because e hadn't *joined* joined then... oh, forget it!
> 
> Did the Registrar ever officially add him?

Where's the Caped Crusader when you need em?
:-)
Alfie, I think you had better add Mr. Lunatic Fringe into the game quick
smart.
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:32:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Election

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:

> Don't try to weasel out on this one, Mr. President.  You know what you
> promised, and I'm here to collect.  Don't think that just because you're
> President and I'm just a lowly Justice, Gaoler, former Senator, ex-Financier,
> and once-acting Speaker that you can trod all over me!  I crossed party lines
> to vote for you, rejecting another former President whom I a certain would
> have promptly fulfilled every single one of _his_ campaign promises.  Hear
> that rumbling sound?  It's Elder Mr. Lunatic Fringe turning over in his grave!

Which grave?  I thought e was a player now, or at least should be if the
Registrar gets eir act together.

And I'll see your
Justice, Gaoler, ex-Senator, ex-Financier, and ex-acting-Speaker
with
President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer, ex-acting-Clerk
of the Court, ex-acting-Ambassador, ex-acting-Chief-of-the-Ackan-Reserve,
ex-Acting Illuminatus, and ex-Senator.  Not to mention ex-hausted.
:-)

Tell me the exact name, correctly spelt, of the player who you want me to
force to give the money to you, and I'll do it. :-)

> P.S. You're not a walking talking dictionary, are you?  TM
Last time I checked, Collins wasn't written on my spine, no.

Yours,
Slakko
say the name
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:46:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Burning Mountain

> Is the new Church of the EBS going to start insisting that the Earth has a
> large lever and a small lever, and is green?

No. We will not claim that this is the shape of the Earth, merely that the
Earth was *possibly* created by an Entity as you have described, and that
it is *possibly* ruled by an Entity as you have described.

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:50:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Burning Mountain

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Hubert wrote:

> > > If you can't tell already, I'm getting somewhat sick of the smugness of
> > > the banna types in claiming that the Earth is banna-shaped.  I'm ready and
> > > willing to burn them all.
> >
> > Can't handle the truth, Hubert?  
> 
> The truth is that The Earth is round.  Check out your own Trinket page.

Come to the banna side, Hube.

> In no why.  If, that is, the Earth should ever have a banna nature.  Me, I
> feel its nature is more benevolent, but slightly spiteful when provoked.

The banna is benevolent.  Only those who do not understand the banna could
fail to see the benevolence inherent in banna.

BURN ME NOW!
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:54:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Burning Mountain

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Ian K. wrote:

> > Is the new Church of the EBS going to start insisting that the Earth has a
> > large lever and a small lever, and is green?
> 
> No. We will not claim that this is the shape of the Earth, merely that the
> Earth was *possibly* created by an Entity as you have described, and that
> it is *possibly* ruled by an Entity as you have described.

Yeah, well, the Order of the Razor Boomerang claims the Earth is shaped
like a pregnant Doberman.  

(Might as well jump on the bandwagon, I suppose.)

- -Hubert

If olive oil comes from olives, where does baby oil come from?

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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:57:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Burning Mountain

On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Hubert wrote:
> 
> > > > If you can't tell already, I'm getting somewhat sick of the smugness of
> > > > the banna types in claiming that the Earth is banna-shaped.  I'm ready and
> > > > willing to burn them all.
> > >
> > > Can't handle the truth, Hubert?  
> > 
> > The truth is that The Earth is round.  Check out your own Trinket page.
 "The Earth" may be round, but the earth is banna shaped face up to it.
You can't hide behind your stake forever.  Come on, burn us all.  Let's
see it!1

rufus

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