Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #115
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ackanomic digest       Saturday, April 18 1998       Volume 03 : Number 115

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:58:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Vacation Coverage

If anyone wants to act as Head of the Ackan Reserve while else...if is
vacationing, let me know.  I'll make a choice of an Acting Officer soon.

In the meantime - the score as it is so far today.

        Current Value: 70.50
        Positivity Value: 57.9
        Activity Value: 12.50

        Change Today: +2.37
        Change in Positivity: +7.5
        Change in Activity: +2.37

        Activities Today (so far): 18

Each further activity will add 1/6th of a point to the activity index,
while at 6pm and 9pm Acka time 1/8th of a point will be deducted (also at
midnight).

Yours,
Slakko
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:59:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: I want some dividends!

> On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Micah J. Smukler wrote:

> > In the post called "Acka: Winter Cap", which seems to have been sent
> > at 11:37:55 AM (Acka time), bread box (minus the space) wrote:

> > >timestamp

> > The harf is back and I want a winter cap.

> Indeed the harf is back, here is your cap!

> Atilla +186: got a winter cap cause the harf was back.

Actually, with breadbox's score changes from Proposals, Whamiol, etc.,
eir score was 384 after getting eir winter cap, so Attila the Pun
actually got 192.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Leslie Spit Treeo:Book of Rejection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
I love you, you pay my rent.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:01:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I want some dividends!

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> Actually, with breadbox's score changes from Proposals, Whamiol, etc.,
> eir score was 384 after getting eir winter cap, so Attila the Pun
> actually got 192.

Fair enough scorekeeper, assuming of course that any points are earned at
all - what is your opinion on my earlier question (how do we "say" words
in Acka when all we have are words written down?)

Yours,
Slakko
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:06:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: I want some dividends!

> > Actually, with breadbox's score changes from Proposals, Whamiol, etc.,
> > eir score was 384 after getting eir winter cap, so Attila the Pun
> > actually got 192.

> Fair enough scorekeeper, assuming of course that any points are earned at
> all - what is your opinion on my earlier question (how do we "say" words
> in Acka when all we have are words written down?)

You're right!  Why, I bet nobody in the entire history of Ackanomic has
ever used the word "say" to refer to _any_ posting on the mailing lists!

Having been on the Net for six years and a couple of months, I don't have
a problem with including online postings, mail, etc. as being "said".  For
that matter, how long has English included the idiom "say in a letter"?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Leslie Spit Treeo:Book of Rejection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
This sentence contains only one nonstandard English flutzpah.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:07:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Cheese Update

With the recent batch of Proposals, both Vynd and I acquired Stiltons,
for having had ten Proposals accepted with no rejections in between.

Now I can start authoring riskier Proposals again.  :-)  (Gotta work on
that Cheddar, you know...)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Leslie Spit Treeo:Book of Rejection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
Bounce, went the bunnies.  Bounce bounce bounce.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:08:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: The Church to The Evil Ballot Stuffer

> I welcome you, one and all - there are no restrictions on membership.

Except, of course, for anyone who is a member of three Churches already,
which I believe is currently nobody.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Leslie Spit Treeo:Book of Rejection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
Many-wived Jack laughs at probes of sex quiz.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:08:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I want some dividends!

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> > Fair enough scorekeeper, assuming of course that any points are earned at
> > all - what is your opinion on my earlier question (how do we "say" words
> > in Acka when all we have are words written down?)
> 
> You're right!  Why, I bet nobody in the entire history of Ackanomic has
> ever used the word "say" to refer to _any_ posting on the mailing lists!
> 
> Having been on the Net for six years and a couple of months, I don't have
> a problem with including online postings, mail, etc. as being "said".  For
> that matter, how long has English included the idiom "say in a letter"?

Interesting - when we take the English language and interpret it for Acka,
do we automatically interpret all idioms as well?  I tried to get a clear
extension from speech to written text out of the official fictionary
dictionary definitions but failed to.  
  I'm just pointing out a possible interpretation here - and just saying
that the idiom exists is not equivalent to saying that it applies.

Yours,
Slakko
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President, Web-Harfer, RuneMaker, ChessUmpire, Map-Harfer

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:12:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2855 rejected

> SHEEP gives A$2 to /dev/joe as an Organization Action.

Aren't Societies like SHEEP only able, currently, to give A$ to the
Treasury?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Leslie Spit Treeo:Book of Rejection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
Remember me?  I'm the one who never made any impression on you.  --Brilliant

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:15:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT Traub <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Church of the EBS

I offer to join the church of the EBS although I don't currently own one :)

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:26:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Decomposition

The Undead known as Antimatter has now decomposed.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Leslie Spit Treeo:Book of Rejection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
Bullets bounce off me like raisins off an Oldsmobile!

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:33:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Land, etc.

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> > I note that FunkyTown (what I had hoped to name my house) is already on
> > the map in another location.   Is it really there?  
> 
> Heh.  You gave this to The Church of Odo on the Wormhole before you last
> left the game.  If you ask nicely maybe they'll give it back.
> 
> /dev/joe
> 
> ------------------------------

Odo on the Worm Hole is a Cult now. It's a bit difficult to get anything
from it right now. If you were to join it, it could become a Church
again..

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:33:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: Flora Amanita

 The flower Flora blossems

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:35:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2855 rejected

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> > > SHEEP gives A$2 to /dev/joe as an Organization Action.
> > > 
> > > (Do i have to do this and have it agreed to, or was the original public
> > > message announcing our intent to do so enough?)
> > 
> > I support this action (the message announcing intent was probably not
> > enough.)
> 
> You're probably right. I support it too.
> 
> TGW.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
I support it as well.
Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 19:55:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Earth

  If treasure 137 is still buried then I create a trinket worth 1 A$ named
Earth.

  I have at least one gadget, and want to possess, love, hug, and call the
silver key george.

 Wild Card.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:03:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Earth

>   If treasure 137 is still buried then I create a trinket worth 1 A$ named
> Earth.

This fails because such a Trinket already exists, and is owned by the
Cult of Odo on the Wormhole.  If you join it, maybe you can get them to
give it to you.  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Sam Brown:This Feeling
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
When she told me I was average she was just being mean.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:08:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jonathan David Amery <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Earth

On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> >   If treasure 137 is still buried then I create a trinket worth 1 A$ named
> > Earth.
> 
> This fails because such a Trinket already exists, and is owned by the
> Cult of Odo on the Wormhole.  If you join it, maybe you can get them to
> give it to you.  :-)
> 
 If such a trinket exists it is not listed on the Trinkets page.  There is
one named "The Earth" however.

 Wild Card.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:11:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: We are The True Faith

Welcoming JT Traub into the flock, I confirm that we are an Undivided and
Dedicated Church.

The True Church to The Evil Ballot Stuffer.

Rejoice! Rejoice!

Koxvolio
High Priest

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:18:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Soul searching.

I've finally found the Cult for me!

I would like to convert to Odoism.

IB
soon-to-be-evangelist

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:24:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Earth

> > >   If treasure 137 is still buried then I create a trinket worth 1 A$ named
> > > Earth.

> > This fails because such a Trinket already exists, and is owned by the
> > Cult of Odo on the Wormhole.  If you join it, maybe you can get them to
> > give it to you.  :-)

>  If such a trinket exists it is not listed on the Trinkets page.  There is
> one named "The Earth" however.

Read Rule 348, " ", on what makes names unique.  "The" doesn't differentiate
between two names.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--The Kinks:25 Years--The Ultimate Collection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:26:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Loose Ends

I suggest that The Rebellion disband.  I also suggest that the Committee
For Understanding disband.  Both have served their purpose.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--The Kinks:25 Years--The Ultimate Collection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
Gods chase, round vase. What say? What play? Don't know. Nice, though.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:36:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Bury

I suggest that The Church of Azpiazu transfer "I Finally Finished _Infinite
Jest_!" to me, and it occurs because I'm the Founder.  :-)

I now bury this Trinket with the following map:

It's time once again for...Fantasy Billboard!  Or the Billboard Challenge,
as it is now known.  It's up at http://challenge.billboard.com/ right now.
For those who might not be familiar with it, in a nutshell, you pick ten
albums, and get points depending on their performance on the Billboard
charts over the next four weeks.  And you can submit a new set every week.
Complete rules are at the web site above, or I can email a copy to anyone
who's interested.

So if you want to participate in this, then you need to let me know
what the name of your record label is(once you've joined the game
online).  This time, for my own convenience, I'd like them to have
the string "Acka" in them, so I can search for them all at once.  Those
who still have labels left over from last round can use those again,
but should still let me know.  And you can only have one each; if you
have more than one, then let me know which one is competing, and if
you have more than one with that name then none are eligible.

The Treasure shall be found by the first such label which finishes, after
four weeks, in the Top 50, or the highest-ranked among them if there's more
than one.

In the event that this online contest should disappear, then the winner
of the first game started by Alfvaen after this occurs that has a clear
winner shall find the Treasure instead.

[ My own labels are "Azpiazu Records" and "Temple of Azpiazu Records". ]

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--The Kinks:25 Years--The Ultimate Collection
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
The key point to hitting the sun is, of course, missing the moon.  --corprew

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:19:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Matt" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Message from the undead

wooo-oooo

Actually, there's more to it than that

There must have been a rule change since I left the game :^) since 
it appears that the undead, such as myself, the Vampire Lord 
of Iniquity, can now give things away! 

My Zombie minions inform me that a rather large mountain desires my 
vending machine. Normally, I would demand a pint of blood in return, 
but given that mountains don't normally have blood, in this case I 
won't bother.

I give my vending machine to K2.

I hope all is happy in the land of Acka. I would come back and visit, 
but I have a new job that takes all my time (and gives me an Email 
connection that is dodgy at best).

Cheers and all that

Bascule

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:22:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: We are The True Faith

> Welcoming JT Traub into the flock, I confirm that we are an Undivided and
> Dedicated Church.

> The True Church to The Evil Ballot Stuffer.

Does this suffice to create the Church?  I can't determine whether Rule
1003 or 1301 specifies it.  (I guess Rule 1003 allows you to do any
Organization, but 1301 Churches specifically, and Rule 1003 doesn't say
that part 1 is the only way to found an Organization...)

In any case, by Rule 1301 you have to list your followers etc. as well.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--This Mortal Coil:It'll End In Tears
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
Glob thinkally, loc actally.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:46:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: We are The True Faith

Oyez Oyez!

We are the Church to The Evil Ballot Stuffer

Our congregation consists of:   Slakko
				Wild Card
				JT
			so far. (You could be next!)

I, Koxvolio, am the founder, having been granted True Vision by the Great
Evil Ballot Stuffer.

We draw together to worship The Great Evil Ballot Stuffer, who art above
all entities. Through our reverence and usage of Evil Ballot Stuffers we
shall gradually grow to understand the True Method for Stuffing Ballots,
and shall grow to comprehend the Truth. As our followers become more
advanced in their understanding (The First Test of Stuffing) the Great
Secret of our order shall be revealed to them, and they shall take up
their duties as a Priest.

All users of Evil Ballot Stuffers who are not part of the True Faith are
hereby declared apostate, although we seek to welcome them back into the
fold and into worship of the Great Evil Ballot Stuffer, of which all
mortal Evil Ballot Stuffers are but pale imitations. We understand that
they may possess wisdom that they did not know they had, and look forward
to inaugurating them as Priests in our order, that they might share with
us what they have learned, and that we may Stuff Ballots together.

Here endeth the Dogma.

Koxvolio
High Priest

P.S. If I haven't give A$350 to the Church yet (becsuse it didn't exist
when I posted the message last) then I do so now. Please.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:50:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT Traub <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: Flora Amanita

>The flower Flora blossems

While I don't know if this is the answer, I do know that it was misspelled
above, and being not one to pass up an oppurtunity, I'll happily resubmit
the above with the correct spelling

   The flower Flora blossoms.

- --JT

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:57:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2895

>E has yet to send a public message containing the entire text of the
>Discovery correctly, and hence construction of Nyarlathotep is yet to
>begin.
>
D'OH!

I heff azzembled ze bluepreent for Nyarlathotep!

Ze text, barren eny more eencompeetenz on my pert, iz:

After successfully reattaching a building, Nyarlathotep is destroyed. Every
other Saturday Nyarlathotep is transferred to a random active player.
Nyarlathotep causes the cycle to immediately end. Each recipient of
Nyarlathotep gains 1 win every Thursday at noon. Nyarlathotep is eligible for
the office of Chess-Umpire. To perform an action specified by Nyarlathotep to
be Illegal is the Crime of Illegal Action. Nyarlathotep is called granting
Sanctuary of Salvation. The effects (if any) of reading a Nyarlathotep of the
Ackanomicon occur as soon as it is publicly knowable which Nyarlathotep has
been read. The Player that currently holds Nyarlathotep will gain three extra
points for each proposal of his that is accepted while he holds Nyarlathotep.
A Nyarlathotep will stay under the control of another player until it is no
longer a Nyarlathotep, the controlling player himself becomes Nyarlathotep, or
someone kisses that Nyarlathotep. There exists an optional Functional Office
of Nyarlathotep. Nyarlathotep is said to be buried deep underground.
Nyarlathotep may remove the Ambassador from office. If the Amber Banana Tree
was destroyed, Nyarlathotep receives the Amber Banana Tree Seed. If a player
manages to legitimately exercise  Nyarlathotep 3 times within a 48 hour
period, they will be dubbed a Crazy Scotsman. No officers may distribute
Nyarlathoteps during a Nyarlathotep Moratorium. Nyarlathotep is an entity that
can only be destroyed by Acid Rain. A player who possesses the Nyarlathotep
may not win the Cycle. Whenever the Nyarlathotep is transferred from one
player to another, the Great Tuba is given to the player who just lost the
Nyarlathotep. If ever a player owns Nyarlathotep then e will achieve a winning
condition. Nyarlathotep shall publicly announce the fact of its enaction, or
failure.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:12:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Message from the undead

> There must have been a rule change since I left the game :^) since 
> it appears that the undead, such as myself, the Vampire Lord 
> of Iniquity, can now give things away! 

Really?  I'm not sure about that...although Mr. Lunatic Fringe did
rejoin briefly to give an item away...

> My Zombie minions inform me that a rather large mountain desires my 
> vending machine. Normally, I would demand a pint of blood in return, 
> but given that mountains don't normally have blood, in this case I 
> won't bother.

> I give my vending machine to K2.

So I'm not sure if this works.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Paul McCartney:The Other Me
Current Book--Jack L. Chalker:The Cybernetic Walrus
I'm the king and you have to do what I command or else I can't be king anymore!

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:32:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: Flora Amanita

> The flower Flora blossems
>
Nope. ;-)

You did, however, get the first word right.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:32:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: We are The True Faith

>(You could be next!)
>
I apply to join the Church to The Evil Ballot Stuffer.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:32:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: Flora Amanita

>   The flower Flora blossoms.
>
>--JT
>
No.

Rex Mundi.

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