Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #92
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ackanomic digest        Tuesday, April 7 1998        Volume 03 : Number 092

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:46:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 553 (TRUE)

It is true that we have had a simialr discusion before, however I think
the focus is sufficiently altered to make a short response worthwhile.

ThinMan makes the case here that the concept of change is a fundamental
concept of the English language, however, as far as I can tell, nowhere
does the argument that follows succeeds in making the association between
the concept and English in particular. I argue that this concept in indeed
a fundamental real-world concept, but it has nothing to do with the
English language in particular, neither with standard meaning, nor with
syntax, sentence consructions, or with any basic assumptions of the
language. Appealing to the definition of change first requires that one
accepts the concept of change as a necessary intermediary
state/description, or whatever between two given states. One can certainly
conceive of English constructions that do not assume such a concept as a
given, and change, in this respect, is no more than a description which
conforms to one viewpoint of the situation. 
Furthermore, any multi-lingual person can confirm that this concept is
much wider than the English language, and therefore I do not accept it as
an intrinsic concept of English, and see no reason to import it as an
axiom of Acka.

Niccolo Flychuck

ps- ThinMan, if you think this message contributes nothing to the
discussion, feel free not to reply to it. 

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, John Bollinger wrote:

> I am willing to go a long way with abandoning real-world paradigms for
> Acka play, but some are too fundamental.  In particular, Acka has long
> recognized English as a principally external language, only slightly
> modified for Ackan use.  As the language with which the rules are written,
> English is essentially the fundamental law of Ackanomic.  Even this law
> can be tweaked, but whole-scale departures from it require rules for
> their specification lest all Acka collapse into Babel.  I can imagine
> an internal language developing over the years; indeed, it is already
> happening, but if Ackaspeak ever becomes more than just a local dialect
> of English then it will be in the far future.
> 
> I am not willing to abandon the English meanings of the words in which
> the rules are written, except where the rules or game custom direct that
> I do so.  As an example, I claim now, as I did before, that if I observe
> an aspect of the game state to be different now than it was yesterday
> then according to the definition of "change," that aspect of the game
> state has changed.  This is the language, the fundamental physics of
> Ackanomic.  If I am not a member of TMBSG today, but I am one tomorrow,
> then by definition I will have become one.
> 
> Niccolo and I have had this argument before, and I don't see much point
> in having it again, so I will stop there.  Niccolo, if you disagree
> with the above then feel free to have at it; I will not respond further.
> 
> How the principles I have outlined apply to the CFJ at hand is left as
> an exercise for the reader.
> 
> 
> 
> ThinMan
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> End of ackanomic digest V3 #91
> ******************************
> 

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 13:55:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 553 (TRUE)

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Brian Raiter wrote:

> >> When I wrote on of my previous replies I was looking for that reference,
> >> has the CFJ archive moved recently?
> > 
> > Yes, it has.  The main Acka page has an updated link.  Temporarily
> > they are held here at dcr24.quns, but it is hoped that they will
> > soon be available from The Gingham Wearer's GeoCities account (it
> > seems most appropriate for the CotC to have the CFJ/CFCJ archive).
> 
> No, it hasn't. Or at least it shouldn't have.
> 
> I am still maintaining the CFJ archives, and I will continue to do so
> until my replacement is ready. (I had no idea that the link on the
> main Acka page pointed anywhere else.)

I sent a message saying I would do it.  I have, but only on a temporary
basis.  The Gingham Wearer will soon have the new site up, no doubt.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President "Gumball" Web-Harfer RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:10:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT Traub <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2840

Niccolo wrote:
>I can't for this at its present form. Swingers are handled seperately, and
>better, IMO, by the Party Hall Rule.

I'm afraid I don't see the conflict between this and the party hall rule..
Granted the line about swingers no longer being swingers for the party is
redundant (forcing the members of the party to no longer be members would
cause them to be removed as swingers as per the party hall rule, and so
the text ends up having no effect other than to remind people of this effect)

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:54:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: New Organization

I am announcing my intent to form a new Society, The Society for the
Huranguing of Emancipated Enfranchised Players.

IB
shoulda lined up some others before announcing

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:32:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: New Organization

IdiotBoy wrote:
>I am announcing my intent to form a new Society, The Society for the
>Huranguing of Emancipated Enfranchised Players.

I wish to join The Society for the Huranguing of Emancipated
Enfranchised Players.

Also,

I create a trinket, valued at A$ 15, called Wolf's Clothing.  It is
a very realistic wolf costume, perhaps made out of real wolf pelts.
It is possible to be inside the Wolf's Clothing, although, for some
unfathonable reason, that is not the same as wearing it.  Nup a rof
shtgnel taerg ot og lliw.

ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:36:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Organization

ThinMan wrote:

> IdiotBoy wrote:
> >I am announcing my intent to form a new Society, The Society for the
> >Huranguing of Emancipated Enfranchised Players.
> 
> I wish to join The Society for the Huranguing of Emancipated
> Enfranchised Players.

I too wish to join this society.

TGW.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:27:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: A Woolly New Organization. 

I am pleased to announce the creation of a brand new Organization!

We are a Society.
We are known as The Society for the Huranguing of Emancipated Enfranchised
Players.
We are IdiotBoy, ThinMan, and The Gingham Wearer.
We are but eightscore young blondes and brunettes, all between sixteen and
nineteen-and-a-half... no wait.. sorry.

IB
Baa, Baa, Lack of Color Sheep.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: I didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition?

And now for something completely different...

A question for everyone:

What ...

is your favourite colour?

- -- 
Duncan C. "my brother owns the Mynot Phonty Bongosok" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President "Gumball" Web-Harfer RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:35:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition?

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> 
z> What ...
> 
> is your favourite colour?
>
blue. no wait, green.

rufus

- -- 
I had .sig once, but it left me.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:36:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 560 (TRUE)

This has been judged TRUE by TGW.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 560 - April 6, 1998
Subject: Modesty
Initiator: K 2 (sent April 5, 1998, 21:10)
Judge: The Gingham Wearer (selected April 6, 1998, 08:22)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:
Proposal 2800 was modest.

Initiator's Reasoning:
I'm not sure weather it is or not. breadbox pointed out that the modest
furniture did not preface the proposal but occurred after some comments.
However, since the comments did nothing they could be considered to be
part of the proposals preface along with the modesty furniture.

Rule 209:
A proposal is considered to be Modest if and only if the author of the
proposal prefaces the proposal with the words "This is a Modest
proposal".

Judge's Reasoning:
One of the definitions my dictionary gives for "preface" is "make preliminary
remarks". I therefore find it reasonable to assume that the [bracketed] text
can also be a preface. Spirit of the game would also strongly suggest that
the proposal was modest. Proposal 209 does not indicate that the proposal
must *only* be prefaced by the words "This is a Modest proposal" so it is
reasonable to assume that this proposal was indeed modest.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:42:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!

> And now for something completely different...
> 
> A question for everyone:
> 
> What ...
> 
> is your favourite colour?

Well, I'm quite fond of black, but that isn't a colour so I'll have to plump
for orange. Le monde est bleu comme une orange (no wait un banna). (Which is
an attempt to see:

a) if I can remember a quote.
b) if comments in other languages can be accepted as Acka actions
c) how tenuous saying the Earth isn't flat can be to get a witch-hunt called
on you)

TGW.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:42:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition?

>And now for something completely different...
>
>A question for everyone:
>
>What ...
>
>is your favourite colour?
	Green

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	Success is the child of audacity.
		-Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:44:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition?

>>And now for something completely different...
>>
>>A question for everyone:
>>
>>What ...
>>
>>is your favourite colour?
>	Green
	No, I meant blue

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	Success is the child of audacity.
		-Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:45:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition?

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> And now for something completely different...
> 
> A question for everyone:
> 
> What ...
> 
> is your favourite colour?

Certainly not black.  That's for sure.

- -Hubert, proud of Slakko for getting 3 MP references into a 4-line post,
and unable to be burned for the above even though e didn't technically say
black is not a color.

Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. 

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:49:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Urkel

Reagrdign the recent barrage of MP post..

Did I do that?

IB
hiking up his pants.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 17:54:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Urkel

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Matt Miller wrote:

> Reagrdign the recent barrage of MP post..
> 
> Did I do that?
> 
> IB
> hiking up his pants.

That's an FM reference.
Oh dear - I hope the next FM someone creates isn't going to be called
Urkel.

Yours,
Slakko
- -- 
Duncan C. "Full House was the worst thing to ever hit SF" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Year PhD(Pure Maths), CUDipSoc, CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS etc
Acka - President "Gumball" Web-Harfer RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:07:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Doing my part for the treasure starved.

I'd just like to say, "Hubert"

IB

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:22:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition?

> > And now for something completely different...
> > 
> > A question for everyone:
> > 
> > What ...
> > 
> > is your favourite colour?
> 
> Certainly not black.  That's for sure.

On the contrary. Since Black is the only... thing... defined as a colour
by the Ackanomic rules, it had better be my favourite colour, hadn't it?

Otherwise someone might burn me...

Koxvolio

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:26:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: A Woolly New Organization.

I am now going into the Wolf's Clothing.  It feels rather odd being
inside a Costume but not wearing it, but that's what I get for making
a costume out of a trinket.

ThinMan
SHEEP in Wolf's Clothing

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:29:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: A Woolly New Organization.

>We are IdiotBoy, ThinMan, and The Gingham Wearer.
>We are but eightscore young blondes and brunettes, all between sixteen and
>nineteen-and-a-half... no wait.. sorry.

I hereby create a new trinket, the Grail-shaped beacon, valued at A$ 15.
It is Grail-shaped, and produces a semi-holy, widely visible glow when
set alight.  It is rumored to be most effective when used from the top
of a tower, and some say that it attracts handsome young knights.

ThinMan
Wicked, naughty, EVIL Zoot.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 18:32:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Micah Smukler)
Subject: Re: Acka: I didn't expect a Spanish Inquisition?

>> > And now for something completely different...
>> >
>> > A question for everyone:
>> >
>> > What ...
>> >
>> > is your favourite colour?
>>
>> Certainly not black.  That's for sure.
>
>On the contrary. Since Black is the only... thing... defined as a colour
>by the Ackanomic rules, it had better be my favourite colour, hadn't it?
>
>Otherwise someone might burn me...
>
>Koxvolio

Except that white and sepia are arguably (implicitly) defined as colors
by the Kansas rule (I think).

AtP

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Shell#10

	Much as I hate it, the new org rules seem to force me to open the
membershup of Shell#10.  TGW is invited, since he did help fund the lab.
We need a third person, so I'm taking applications.

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	Success is the child of audacity.
		-Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:39:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Phoebe

In one of those quirks of chance, Koxvolio has found Phoebe again.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Tears For Fears:Elemental
Current Book--Sean Stewart:The Night Watch
I gotta go - I'm expecting another call from you any minute.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:40:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: T200: Second Prize

> --------------6ADD782E930CEC406A94B79C
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> Second Prize is worth A$ 73, it looks identical to first prize, only
> more expensive.

Unfortunately, Second Prize is not specified as a Trinket, so this
action is insufficiently specified and does not happen.

> I am burying Second Prize and my Automatic Sculpture, with the map (or
> something very much like it):

I think that the Automatic Sculpture is still buried, though, if I recall
the last time this happened...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Tears For Fears:Elemental
Current Book--Sean Stewart:The Night Watch
If the subway stops there, then it's a subway station!

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:40:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Postmasterness

> As of this morning I have received bounce messages spanning seven days
> for the observer [email-masked], so I am exercising my
> privilege as Postmaster and removing them from the lists.

> This "observer", by the way, subscribed to all of the lists some time
> ago. And I do mean *all* of the lists - including every last digest
> list. (Of course the attempts to subscribe to the party lists failed,
> since those are private.)

Yes, I had noticed that too, but decided to ignore it unless I saw em
actually complaining about it.  :-)

> Since it was obviously a bot, and worried
> that spam mail might ensue, I considered taking action. But in the end
> I decided that, with the amount of mail we generate, the problem was
> likely to take care of itself. And indeed, unsubscribe commands for
> all of the non-digest lists arrived within a couple of weeks. The
> digest subscriptions remained, however, and finally started
> bouncing. (I imagine that whatever-it-was cancelled that address
> entirely. Ackanomic is hardly the most high-volume mailing list on the
> internet, after all....)

Too true.  Though it's starting to edge that way again...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Tears For Fears:Elemental
Current Book--Sean Stewart:The Night Watch
Mandibles often used near trephanation by older beetles.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:40:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Shell#10

> 	Much as I hate it, the new org rules seem to force me to open the
> membershup of Shell#10.  TGW is invited, since he did help fund the lab.
> We need a third person, so I'm taking applications.

What's the point?  At best, you'll be a Society that can send its money to
the Treasury, and still can't transfer(or own)Gadgets.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Tears For Fears:Elemental
Current Book--Sean Stewart:The Night Watch
Just work for improved basic techniques to maximize your typing skill.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:42:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Shell#10

> 	Much as I hate it, the new org rules seem to force me to open the
> membershup of Shell#10.  TGW is invited, since he did help fund the lab.
> We need a third person, so I'm taking applications.

In that case I either apply to join or join Shell#10, depending on whether or
not I can join it (I join if I can). I've always been a bit hazy on the exact
rules for joining orgs and this re-org proposal hasn't exactly helped the
matter either. Still, I'm droning on about nothing in particular (another
talent of mine I think you'll find, along with writing hideously flawed rules
and getting basic words wrong (i.e. perspective instead of prospective,
comprised, etc.) so I'll stop now.

TGW.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 20:51:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Postmasterness

> This "observer", by the way, subscribed to all of the lists some time
> ago. And I do mean *all* of the lists - including every last digest
> list. (Of course the attempts to subscribe to the party lists failed,
> since those are private.) Since it was obviously a bot, and worried
> that spam mail might ensue, I considered taking action. 

There was one list I was subscribed to once where I subscribed to both the
standard and digest versions: the standard one for the normal purposes and
the digests for archiving them, so this perhaps wasn't *quite* as barmy as it
appeared.

TGW.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:01:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ian K." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Phoebe

> In one of those quirks of chance, Koxvolio has found Phoebe again.
> 
Oh balls. I'm not listening to her for at least another day or two!

Koxvolio

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:04:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: T200: Second Prize

I' creating a _trinket_ called Second Prize is worth A$ 73, it looks
identical to first prize, only more expensive.

I'm burying Second prize right along side my automatic sculpture buried in
T205.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:18:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Postmasterness

>> This "observer", by the way, subscribed to all of the lists some time
>> ago. And I do mean *all* of the lists - including every last digest
>> list. (Of course the attempts to subscribe to the party lists failed,
>> since those are private.) Since it was obviously a bot, and worried
>> that spam mail might ensue, I considered taking action. 
> 
> There was one list I was subscribed to once where I subscribed to
> both the standard and digest versions: the standard one for the
> normal purposes and the digests for archiving them, so this perhaps
> wasn't *quite* as barmy as it appeared.

To be sure, this in itself was not suspect. It was this, coupled with
the fact that they attempted to subscribe to every single mailing list
simultaneously. Without going through the Registrar. Including an
internal mailing list used only for testing.

b

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 21:24:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Shell#10

I would like to join pls.

Towsner wrote:

>         Much as I hate it, the new org rules seem to force me to open the
> membershup of Shell#10.  TGW is invited, since he did help fund the lab.
> We need a third person, so I'm taking applications.
>
> --
> -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran
>
>         <[email-masked]>
>
>         Success is the child of audacity.
>                 -Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:20:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Shell#10

>In that case I either apply to join or join Shell#10, depending on whether or
>not I can join it (I join if I can). I've always been a bit hazy on the exact
>rules for joining orgs and this re-org proposal hasn't exactly helped the
>matter either. Still, I'm droning on about nothing in particular (another
>talent of mine I think you'll find, along with writing hideously flawed rules
>and getting basic words wrong (i.e. perspective instead of prospective,
>comprised, etc.) so I'll stop now.
	I perform all approvals neccessary to allows TGW to join Shell#10

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	Success is the child of audacity.
		-Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 22:38:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: JT Traub <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Re Proposal 2848

>>> Unfortunately, Rule 313 states that Bribes can only cause the
>>> transfer of tradeable entities from the author of the proposal to
>>> players who voted YES on the proposal.  The above bribe is invalid.
>
>Thanks for catching that nuance, Alfvaen - it went completely past me.
>
>> Drat Alfvaen is correct.  I also note that rule 313 has a wonderful
>> loophole if I wanted to be a Crazy French-Scotsman.  However, I'm not
>> quite that silly, so will propose a change to close that hole shortly
>> (like as soon as I can pull up the rule text to make the change cleanly)
>> 
>> In the meantime, I retract proposal 2848.
>
>You need not, and in fact cannot, retract Proposal 2848, as it was
>automatically removed from voting consideration the moment it was
>distributed.

Hrm, in that case, I just lost 15 points.

Well in that case.   Hey.. where in the rules did it ever say that!!!
I demand a retrial!  I'm innocent I tell you, no one ever told me that
bad bribes were against the rules..   AAAHHHHHRRGHHH I'm innnnoooooocent!!!

:)

- --JT

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:05:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael James" <[email-masked]>
Subject: re acka swing points

I am creating a random treasure , hmm..
when a player by the name of"Koxvolio" 
becomes "harf's" swinger (if such an unusual event could ever happen) 'e
will be transfered "karma's" swing points upon acking this transaction.

- - karma (this ia a public message)

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:20:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Good Ballot Stuffer

The Good Ballot Stuffer I was building is now completed, and now I get to
auction _that_.  I'll set the starting bid at A$10.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Robbie Robertson:Fallen Angel
Current Book--Sean Stewart:The Night Watch
Poisoning pigeons on the grass alas alas

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:25:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Postmasterness

> There was one list I was subscribed to once where I subscribed to both the
> standard and digest versions: the standard one for the normal purposes and
> the digests for archiving them, so this perhaps wasn't *quite* as barmy as it
> appeared.

I'm subscribed to all the digest lists because of those messages I kept
missing on the regular list a while back.  I don't go through them all,
but at least I have something to check if someone claims they sent a
message that I haven't seen...

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Robbie Robertson:Fallen Angel
Current Book--Sean Stewart:The Night Watch
Bacteria: Rear entrance to a cafeteria.

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:26:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: T200: Second Prize

> I' creating a _trinket_ called Second Prize is worth A$ 73, it looks
> identical to first prize, only more expensive.

> I'm burying Second prize right along side my automatic sculpture buried in
> T205.

This will make it a separate Treasure, but if you give it the same Map...
:-)

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Robbie Robertson:Fallen Angel
Current Book--Sean Stewart:The Night Watch
If you start thinking, you'd better do it the whole time.  --Yossioren

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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 23:36:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Guy Fawkes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Ackan Reserve Financial Report

On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Towsner wrote:

> The Ackan Reserve Financial Report
                    ^^^^^^^^^
> Published by the board of the Ackan Reserve
> Coming daily since 1998
> 
> 	else...if

The harf is back, and I want a winter cap!

Guy Fawkes 

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