Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #69
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ackanomic digest        Monday, March 23 1998        Volume 03 : Number 069

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:03:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Abstract Round 3 Results, Round 4 Start

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Micah Smukler wrote:

> I am calling a Public Health Emergency on Hubert for the above message.
> 
> <null .sig>

I believe this fails because I've already had one called against me
earlier this calendar month.  If it is valid, though, I urge all players
to vote YES in it.  This is getting to be a common occurrence for me.

I thwap myself, bonk myself with the D'oh!, and ram my head against the
wall in frustration.  None of these are regulated by the Rules, so all
happen.

- -Hubert

Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have. 

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:18:39 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Micah Smukler)
Subject: Re: Acka: Abstract Round 3 Results, Round 4 Start

>On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Micah Smukler wrote:
>
>> I am calling a Public Health Emergency on Hubert for the above message.
>>
>> <null .sig>
>
>I believe this fails because I've already had one called against me
>earlier this calendar month.

Probably.

(I will read the rules before attempting to use them.  I will read the
rules before attempting to use them.  I will read the rules before
attempting to use them.)

>If it is valid, though, I urge all players
>to vote YES in it.  This is getting to be a common occurrence for me.
>
>I thwap myself, bonk myself with the D'oh!, and ram my head against the
>wall in frustration.  None of these are regulated by the Rules, so all
>happen.
>
>-Hubert
>
>Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.

(And now I can't get that treasure, either...  Such is life.)

<null .sig>

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 03:39:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2792

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Hubert wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Brian Raiter wrote:
> > 
> > > If the verdict is "But e *did* say *******." the player on whom the
> >                                     ^^^^^^^^^
> > I object to this. I'm not even very happy about quoting this. I am not
> > very orthodox, but  don't think the usage of this name is inappropriate
> > here. Most people I know wouldn't even wouldn't even utter this name in
> > its Hebrew pronunciation.
> 
> One would wonder why you didn't object the first time I proposed this...

That is because I have not been very active recently on acka, and even
uncharacteristically missed some votes. 

> 
> In any case, I certainly don't mean to offend.  (Not unintentionally, at
> least.)  I included it as a reference, of course, to the stoning scene 
> in _The Life of Brian_.  If there's a different spelling or pronunciation
> you'd prefer, or if anyone can think of another appropriate "Yes" verdict,
> please let me know and I'll retract and resubmit.
I'd prefer not to have it at all. The spelling you used is the least
objectionable one I can think of.

As for an alternative. I also find the references for burnings and
stonings objectionable.

Niccolo Flychuck

> 
> - -Hubert
> 
> If we can't shoot them, why is it called tourist season? 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 04:45:25 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Otzma: Rex has been inordinately greedy

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# Rex Mundi has 9 Otzma Cards for some reason.
# The maximum number is 6.  The first 3 cards to
# appear in these rolls will be destroyed.
# This first message only involves the first 7 cards - he couldn't
# have had them all at once.
# 1 - Go Fish
# 2 - Map Shard
# 3 - Summon Tornado
# 4 - Untouch Me #1
# 5 - Untouch Me #2
# 6 - Tactical Retreat
# 7 - Skeleton Key
# 8 - Share My Expenses (just added)
# 9 - Grave Robber      (just added)
# Yours,
# Slakko - RuneMaker.

No. of sides on every die:      7
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    5
No. of rolls per line:          5

      7      2      7      4      1

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> From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
> To: Dice Server <[email-masked]>
> Subject: otzma (fwd)
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> #P [email-masked]
> #P [email-masked]
> #S 7
> #D 1
> #R 5
> #L 5
> #C Rex Mundi has 9 Otzma Cards for some reason.
> #C The maximum number is 6.  The first 3 cards to
> #C appear in these rolls will be destroyed.
> #C This first message only involves the first 7 cards - he couldn't
> #C have had them all at once.
> #C
> #C 1 - Go Fish
> #C 2 - Map Shard
> #C 3 - Summon Tornado
> #C 4 - Untouch Me #1
> #C 5 - Untouch Me #2
> #C 6 - Tactical Retreat
> #C 7 - Skeleton Key
> #C 8 - Share My Expenses (just added)
> #C 9 - Grave Robber      (just added)
> #C Yours,
> #C Slakko - RuneMaker.
> #T Acka: Otzma: Rex has been inordinately greedy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 04:50:41 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Otzma: Rex has been inordinately greedy

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# The maximum number is 6.  The first 2 cards to
# appear in these rolls will be destroyed.
# The first message destroyed what was then card 7,
# the Skeleton Key.  Cards 8 and 9 have been relabelled as appropriate.
# 1 - Go Fish
# 2 - Map Shard
# 3 - Summon Tornado
# 4 - Untouch Me #1
# 5 - Untouch Me #2
# 6 - Tactical Retreat
# 7 - Share My Expenses (just added)
# 8 - Grave Robber      (just added)
# Yours,
# Slakko - RuneMaker.

No. of sides on every die:      8
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    2
No. of rolls per line:          2

      5      2

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Original message follows:
> From [email-masked]  Mon Mar 23 01:50:04 1998
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> From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 8
> #D 1
> #R 2
> #L 2
> #C Rex Mundi had 9 Otzma Cards for some reason.
> #C The maximum number is 6.  The first 2 cards to
> #C appear in these rolls will be destroyed.
> #C The first message destroyed what was then card 7,
> #C the Skeleton Key.  Cards 8 and 9 have been relabelled as appropriate.
> #C
> #C 1 - Go Fish
> #C 2 - Map Shard
> #C 3 - Summon Tornado
> #C 4 - Untouch Me #1
> #C 5 - Untouch Me #2
> #C 6 - Tactical Retreat
> #C 7 - Share My Expenses (just added)
> #C 8 - Grave Robber      (just added)
> #C Yours,
> #C Slakko - RuneMaker.
> #T Acka: Otzma: Rex has been inordinately greedy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:17:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Guy Fawkes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2792

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Hubert wrote:

> In any case, I certainly don't mean to offend.  (Not unintentionally, at
> least.)  I included it as a reference, of course, to the stoning scene 
> in _The Life of Brian_.  If there's a different spelling or pronunciation
> you'd prefer, or if anyone can think of another appropriate "Yes" verdict,
> please let me know and I'll retract and resubmit.

As for me, changing the spelling doesn't particularly make it any less
blasphemous -- the name of the Lord is still His name no matter how many
asterisks you use, and no matter how badly mistransliterated it is.  Using
the sacred for no better purpose than to reference a mildly amusing film
is a bad policy no matter what your beliefs or lack thereof -- unless you
wish to offend those who use that name only in worship, and even then not
lightly at all.

GF

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:10:08 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (John Bollinger)
Subject: Re:  Acka: New Player

>We have another new player in Ackanomic.  Eir name is Matt Miller
><[email-masked]>, and the Ackanomic name e has chosen is IdiotBoy.
>Since this is the name e held previously just before leaving the
>game, getting inducted into the Hall of Elders, and having eir Undead
>destroyed by one of my Proposals(not to mention eir Pointy Ears
>mounted on the Church of Odo on the Wormhole), this is legal.

Welcome back, IdiotBoy!

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:41:54 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: snowgod hearing (was Re: Acka: Abstract Round 3 Results, Round , 4 Start)

Someone whose ackan name I do not know has called a Public Health
Emergency against Hubert.  Reply to vote, voting lasts three days.  Valid
responses are "uh, e, meant to do that." and "Why just yesterday he posted
a letter to his aunt."

rufus
Count Tabula

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Micah Smukler wrote:

> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:46:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: Micah Smukler <[email-masked]>
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: Acka: Abstract Round 3 Results, Round 4 Start
> 
> >On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
> >
> >> Hubert: 3
> >
> >15, please.
> >
> >-Hubert
> >
> >Sex on television can't hurt you unless you fall off.
> 
> Oh, what the heck.
> 
> I am calling a Public Health Emergency on Hubert for the above message.
> 
> <null .sig>
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:43:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:  Acka: New Player

On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, John Bollinger wrote:

> Welcome back, IdiotBoy!
> 
> 
> ThinMan
> 

Having not read the rules since I last was in the game (and only a cursory
glance in those days, if you'll recall), I assume I have to say something
in my first few days to be all active.  Consider it done.

IB
inert

(Thanks, TM.)

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:34:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:  Acka: New Player

On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Matt Miller wrote:

> Having not read the rules since I last was in the game (and only a cursory
> glance in those days, if you'll recall), I assume I have to say something
> in my first few days to be all active.  Consider it done.

Not yet - you're not active until the results of a proposal on which you
voted YES, NO or PRESENT are reported.

Yours,
Slakko

always happy to see a new (old) face.
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" Web-Harfer RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:07:35 -0500 (EST)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 549 (Rex Mundi)

Rex Mundi has been selected.

Clerk of the Courts
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Call For Judgement 549 - March 23, 1998
Subject: *ping*ing
Initiator: Atilla the Pun(sent March 23, 1998, 00:38)
Judge: Rex Mundi (selected March 23, 1998, 12:35)
Judgement: 

Statement:
It is possible for the following text, delimited by quotation marks, to
be a legal announcement that the Machine that goes *ping* has gone *ping*,
if it is taken as the entire body of an e-mail message sent to the public
forum:

"Today is Friday, the 21st day of July, and the Machine That Goes *ping*
Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has gone
*ping* 1 time.

Avacado."

Initiator's Reasoning:

Game custom would seem to indicate a verdict of TRUE (and, as scholar, my
life would by made easier if this were judged TRUE); however, the Machine
rule (#1209) says in part:

>...It is the duty of the Scholar to inform the rest of Acka of this
>occurrence. He must do so by posting a public message with the form,
>"Today is Someday, the xth day of Month, and the Machine That Goes
>*ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
>gone *ping* n times." In the actual message, Someday, xth, and Month
>shall be replaced by the appropriate elements of the date of the *ping*
>which is being announced, and n shall be replaced by the number of times
>that the Machine has gone *ping* during the current Scholar's term. "

The above hypothetical message does not match the template given in the rule;
no provision is made for either grammatical exceptions (i.e. 1st, 2nd as
opposed to 1th, 2th) or anything in the message besides the announcement.
Thus, a strict reading of the rules would seem to indicate a verdict of
FALSE,
unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible).

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:07:39 -0500 (EST)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 539 (Alfvaen)

Vynd is deadbeat so this goes to the Praetor (really, this time (although I
said that last time)).

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 539 - February 16, 1998
Subject: Bandwidth Height
Initiator: Malenkai  (sent February 15, 1998, 7:40 p.m.)
First Judge: hoover 2300  (deadbeat)
Second Judge: Fortunato (deadbeat)
Third Judge: Vynd (deadbeat)
Fourth Judge: Alfvaen
Judgement:

Statement:

The height of the Tower of Bandwidth is between 131 and 132 feet.

Reasoning:

<none>

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:07:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "Tom Walmsley" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Offer

> Even though Contracts don't seem to be around anymore, I write one up
> saying, "I, Hubert, will pay The Gingham Wearer A$50 upon transference of
> eir Scientist for a Day Otzma Card to me." and sign it.

I give my Scientist for a Day Otzma Card to Hubert.

TGW.

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:01:30 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 539 (Alfvaen)

On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:

> Vynd is deadbeat so this goes to the Praetor (really, this time (although I
> said that last time)).
> 
> Clerk of the Courts
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Call For Judgement 539 - February 16, 1998
> Subject: Bandwidth Height
> Initiator: Malenkai  (sent February 15, 1998, 7:40 p.m.)
> First Judge: hoover 2300  (deadbeat)
> Second Judge: Fortunato (deadbeat)
> Third Judge: Vynd (deadbeat)
> Fourth Judge: Alfvaen
> Judgement:
> 
> Statement:
> 
> The height of the Tower of Bandwidth is between 131 and 132 feet.
> 
> Reasoning:
> 
> <none>
> 
> 

Doh!  As I said, I was unable to determine the height of the tower, so i
was planning on ruling undecided.  But then I forgot.  If possible I'll
borrow one of those fishes and hit ymself with it.

                                   - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:37:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Intent

On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Tom Walmsley wrote:
> 
> > I am announcing my intent to resign as Treasure Harfer. I'm perfectly happy
> > to continue with this if no-one else wants to do it but I've not updated the
> > page for ages and it's unfair on anyone who needs information. I will, of
> > course be nominating myself for this but if anyone else thinks they'd do a
> > better job than I currently am (except Alfvaen, breadbox and Slakko who have
> > to much to do already) and are prepared to do it, then go ahead.
> 
> I am now conducting nominations for the position of Treasure Harfer.
> Reply privately to nominate.  You have 3 days.

Nominations received were:

The Gingham Wearer
K 2

I am appointing K 2 as Treasure Harfer.

Harf well.

Yours,
Slakko
using Presidental authority, hopefully not abusing it.
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" Web-Harfer RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:36:56 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Potato

Rex Mundi has found the Magic Potato this week.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Dr. Hook:Better Love Next Time
Current Book--Jane Yolen:White Jenna
Neutrinos have mass?  I didn't know they were Catholic.

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:59:55 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Time

Just thought I'd let everybody know that I'm not going to have much time
to deal with Ackanomic stuff until tomorrow night, probably.  I may play
a card in Spades, but that'll be about it.  I know I have a Parade to
describe, for instance...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Nirvana:Heart-Shaped Box
Current Book--Jane Yolen:White Jenna
29A--Hexadecimal Number of The Beast

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:29:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2792

I retract the blasphemous Proposal 2792.

- -Hubert

I poured Spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone. 

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