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ackanomic digest       Wednesday, March 4 1998       Volume 03 : Number 048

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:07:37 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Praetor

The following players are, I believe, eligible for the Office of Praetor
(in theory, at least, since some are Justices right now):

Alfvaen (Gold Stripe)
breadbox (Justice, Bronze Torch)
Calvin N Hobbes (Bronze Torch)
/dev/joe (Bronze Torch)
Guy Fawkes (Elder, Gold Stripe, former Justice)
Niccolo Flychuck (Bronze Torch, Gold Stripe)
Robert Sevin (Gold Stripe)
ThinMan (Justice, Bronze Torch)
Vynd (Bronze Torch)

There may be other former Justices, but they probably all have Bronze
Torches so I've got them anyway.

In any event, if nobody else leaps forward for it, I'll volunteer myself.
It'll be better than the Purple Robe of Justice for getting some Judging
experience...  (Note that the next person to volunteer will get the
position, though.)

Note to Guy Fawkes: Perhaps in the reform, instead of having a separate
office of Praetor a deadbeated CFJ could just go to a Supreme Court
person alone...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Weird Al Yankovic:Another One Rides The Bus
Current Book--Zane Grey:Nevada
Will herd cats for food.

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 04:09:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : retracting P2758

I am retracting Proposal 2758,
I will be resubmitting a new version soon.
comments are still welcome

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 04:42:38 -0500 (EST)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: T155 (Alfvaen)

         0123456789
Puzzle 1 VGNRUWEDKP
       2 ZSRXFVOJYW
       3 UVEQKDTGCO
       4 JFGLZHNDCO
       5 JPZFQLWOYV
       6 RXCDEKGHMS

Treasure 155:

       545
   -------
696)379347
    3480
    ----
     3134
     2784
     ----
      3507
      3480
      ----
        27

V=0,G=1,N=2,R=3,U=4,W=5,E=6,D=7,K=8,P=9

        705
    -------
1027)724204
     7189
     ----
       5304
       5135
       ----
        169

Z=0,S=1,R=2,X=3,F=4,V=5,O=6,J=7,Y=8,W=9

       4436
   --------
636)2821910
    2544
    ----
     2779
     2544
     ----
      2351
      1908
      ----
       4430
       3816
       ----
        614

U=0,V=1,E=2,Q=3,K=4,D=5,T=6,G=7,C=8,O=9

      12636
   --------
327)4132243
    327
    ---
     862
     654
     ---
     2082
     1962
     ----
      1204
       981
       ---
       2233
       1962
       ----
        271

J=0,F=1,G=2,L=3,Z=4,H=5,N=6,D=7,C=8,O=9

         726
    --------
1645)1195401
     11515
     -----
       4390
       3290
       ----
       11001
        9870
        ----
        1131

J=0,P=1,Z=2,F=3,Q=4,L=5,W=6,O=7,Y=8,V=9

        23823
    ---------
1344)32019406
     2688
     ----
      5139
      4032
      ----
      11074
      10752
      -----
        3220
        2688
        ----
         5326
         4032
         ----
         1294

R=0,X=1,C=2,D=3,E=4,K=5,G=6,H=7,M=8,S=9

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 04:42:35 -0500 (EST)
From: K2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Malheureusement

I support the nomination :)

Jonathan David Amery wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:
>
> > Balsamic Dragon received ten nominations to the Hall of Elders.  (At
> > least, I think so...there's some ambiguity as to whether the original
> > nomination counts as well.)  Unfortunately, there were 22 active players
> > at the time, so e narrowly missed being inducted.
> >
> > Unless I missed anyone, the original nomination came from Calvin N Hobbes,
> > and the supporting votes came from Slakko, /dev/joe, Alfvaen, rufus, The
> > Gingham Wearer, Goldenmean, Niccolo Flychuck, Wild Card, and ThinMan.
> >
> > Unless, of course, mr cwm's day _is_ a Holiday, in which case there's
> > still another day.  (Somebody clear this up, quick...or at least get the
> > CFJ into the courts where it can wait for them to be fixed.)
> >
>  Some other people support this whilst we sort out the Holiday...
>
>  Wild Card.

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 05:07:43 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: tomato hearing results

here are the rather belated results to the tomato hearing:
Tomatos are fruit.  

Alien 	Wild Card
alien	Balsamic Dragon
alien	Goldenmean
alien	Hubert
alien	K 2
alien	Veal Fan
alien	rufus
fruit	**two-star
fruit	Guy Fawkes
fruit	Illusion
fruit	Malenkai /* does this count? */
fruit	Red Barn
fruit	Rex Mundi
fruit	Slakko
fruit	TGW
fruit	ThinMan
fruit	ThinMan's EBS
veggie	Vynd
veggie	vynd's EBS
vegie	/dev/joe
vegie	CNH
vegie	else...if

hibert
Count Tabula

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:06:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Supreme Court reform RFC

Most of this RFC is great!  I just have one little question towards the
end.

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Guy Fawkes wrote:

> Add the following text to the end of the seventh paragraph of Rule 217
> (Overturning Judgment):
> 
> However, unless at least three Justices or half the Supreme Court,
> rounding down, (whichever is lower) post a public message explicitly stating 
> their support of the re-appeal within a week following the re-appeal, the
> Supreme Court's most recent verdict is automatically upheld, and the CFJ
> may not be appealed further.  

What if the Supreme Court returns a verdict before the week is out,
overturning the original verdict, but only the two justices involved (out
of 5 Justices) are explicitly in support of it?

I'd rather that such appeals work in two stages:

1.  For 3 days after the re-appeal is made, it is not assigned to anyone
but placed In Limbo.
2.  After 3 days, an Appeal leaves Limbo.  If sufficiently many judges (1,
2, half, whatever you prefer) explicitly supported the appeal, then it is
assigned to a Cortex.  Otherwise, it is denied and the original verdict
stands.

This avoids any overlap problems.

Yours,
Slakko
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" Web-Harfer RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:15:46 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Praetor

The following players are, I believe, eligible for the Office of Praetor
(in theory, at least, since some are Justices right now):

Alfvaen (Gold Stripe)
breadbox (Justice, Bronze Torch)
Calvin N Hobbes (Bronze Torch)
/dev/joe (Bronze Torch)
Guy Fawkes (Elder, Gold Stripe, former Justice)
Niccolo Flychuck (Bronze Torch, Gold Stripe)
Robert Sevin (Gold Stripe)
ThinMan (Justice, Bronze Torch)
Vynd (Bronze Torch)

There may be other former Justices, but they probably all have Bronze
Torches so I've got them anyway.

In any event, if nobody else leaps forward for it, I'll volunteer myself.
It'll be better than the Purple Robe of Justice for getting some Judging
experience...  (Note that the next person to volunteer will get the
position, though.)

Note to Guy Fawkes: Perhaps in the reform, instead of having a separate
office of Praetor a deadbeated CFJ could just go to a Supreme Court
person alone...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Weird Al Yankovic:Another One Rides The Bus
Current Book--Zane Grey:Nevada
Will herd cats for food.

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:08:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The *Ping* is Gone

Due to eir attempts to hide the true Truth of the Machine from the rest of
us, I am calling for the removal of two-star as Scholar.

While it does not matter to me that e attempted to report a *ping* on the
same day the Machine's Truth was revealed, nor that e reported a *ping*
late, nor even that e reported two *ping*s in the same message (which,
technically, e is not allowed to do), the Machine has not gone *ping* in
over a week, something far more damaging to the well-being of all us
prospective Scholars.

From rule 1209, section 3, paragraph 2: "The Truth must be such that the
Machine shall not fail to go *ping* for any seven consecutive calendar
days," eirs is clearly an invalid Truth, since the Machine has failed to
go *ping* on any day from last Wednesday (February 25) until this Tuesday
(March 3) inclusive, a period of seven consecutive calendar days.

(If it is the case that two-star is simply too busy to report the
*ping*ing, I apologize, but we need a new Scholar in that case too.)

- -Hubert

If a Stealth bomber crashes in the forest, does it make a sound? 

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:54:12 -0500 (EST)
From: "Michael James" <[email-masked]>
Subject: re acka hall of elderberries

Balsamic Dragon received ten nominations to the Hall of Elders.  (At
least, I think so...there's some ambiguity as to whether the original
nomination counts as well.)  Unfortunately, there were 22 active players
at the time, so e narrowly missed being inducted.

karma sez' : I 'ad no time to check my mail, for a spell,i was busy
recording. so if i can somehow do all the right things I nominate the
dragon for "The Hall of Elders" -ers, -ers, -ers. (nice analog echo effect)

- - Karma

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:31:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Quorum Failure

In accordance with Rule 207, the following players have been issued
Puppet Heads along with their five-point penalties:

breadbox
Crackfoo
Enigma
Fortunato
The Gingham Wearer
Hibert
Hoover 2300
Hubert
ThinMan
two-star
Red Barn
Rex Mundi
Vynd

breadbox
Tabulator

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:33:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Memo To Myself

Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do. Touch the Puppet Head.

breadbox
feeling DUMB DUMB DUMB

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:38:39 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: memo

I look at this Puppet Head thing that has suddenly appeared in possesion.
It is not the sort of thing that I would chose to keep around, looking
like the sort of thing that Gerald Scarfe might come up with if he were
having a bad day.  

Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do:  Touch the Puppet Head!

hibert

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 21:48:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Hubert <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Memo to the Stupid

Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do.  Touch the puppet head.

Sorry, Slakko.  I thought I'd voted on it already.

- -Hubert

If God meant for us not to genetically engineer, he would have 
write-protected our DNA. 

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:14:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Stock Market

	Thanks for voting in the stock market.  The web page is up, at
http://home.earthlink.net/~tows/acka/stock.html.  If anyone finds the color
scheme truly abhorrent, just let me know.

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	Success is the child of audacity.
		-Benjamin Disraeli

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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 22:21:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Substantially Similar Proposal 2760

Proposal 2760 is invalid by Rule 309, and is therefore automatically
removed from voting consideration.

breadbox

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