Subject: ackanomic digest V3 #26
From: [email-masked] (ackanomic digest)
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ackanomic digest       Monday, February 16 1998       Volume 03 : Number 026

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:55:06 -0500 (EST)
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: INPs 360, 361 and 362

Ackanomic votes FOR the following INPs: 360, 361 and 362.

Voting was unanimously in favor of 360 and 362, with only one dissenting
vote on 361.

Balsamic Dragon
Ambassador

ps: should I post the individual voting results?  does anyone care?

> INP 360 was submitted by  New Rishonnomic:
> 
>   Amend the text of rule 215 to replace the string "New Rishonnomic"
> with the string "New Rishonomic, New Rishonnomic".  Only perform the
> replacement once, not recursively.
> 
> 
> INP 361, 362 were both submitted by Ackanomic.
> 
> 
> INP 361
> Title: Gone Dotty
> 
> Proposal: Amend Rule 215 by replacing the text "Ackanomic," with the
> text "Ackanomic, .Nomic,"
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> INP 362
> Title: No Navel Gazing
> 
> Proposal: Amend Rule 212 by inserting ",and Internomic, should Internomic
> not be the
> member who submitted it," immediately after the text "other than the
> member who submitted it".
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:57:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 537 (TRUE)

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 537 - February 12, 1998
Subject: Vulcan Headquarters
Initiator: Vynd (sent February 11, 1998, 10:45 p.m.)
Judge: Crackfoo (declined)
Second Judge: /dev/joe (selected February 12, 1998, 3:25 p.m.)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:  An Extravagant building named Vulcan Headquarters exists.

Reasoning:  Well, I'm not really sure if this is true or not.  We had some
discussion about it, and I thought that someone said they did a CFJ, but I
never saw one.  In any event, I *think* that it exists, but this belief
comes from rather tenuous game custom.

It is more or less indisputed that Rule 1 created an Extravagant building
named Vulcan Headquarters (VHQ).  It is my belief that, once created, VHQ
is not destroyed unless something explicitly causes it to be destroyed.
This isn't an area that is directly addressed by the Rules, and there are
few other examples to draw from.  I can think of two, neither of which
quite directly address the issue at hand.

First of all, there is the Office of Godfather.  Malenkai took this office
while it was defined by a Rule (Organized Crime).  But then this Rule was
repealed.  Since that time, Malenkai has continued to be the Godfather,
albeit the office no longer has any game effect as the Rules that gave it
effect are gone.

Secondly, there are the Badges of Many Thanks.  A number of Acka's older
players possess these articles, which were given to them by Rule.  The
Rule which created them is long gone, but they continue to exist.

Other than this, there is simply the fact that nothing actually calls for
the destruction of the building.  There are rules that describe how
buildings can be destroyed, none of them apply in this case.  There was
never a proposal which caused Vulcan HQ to be destroyed.  The only reason
to think that it was destroyed is because the Rule that used to say it
exists no longer says this.  But as the above examples indicate, this does
not mean that the thing described by the Rule ceases to exist.

Judges Reasoning:

CFJ 519 determined that the "Rule 1 is repealed. #1" bit did not succeed
in repealing rule 1.  Therefore, regardless of whether or not the latest
attempt to renumber it worked, that rule exists and since Vulcan finally
succeeded some time ago in changing their name back to Vulcan, this rule
changed its text likewise.  Regardless whether Vulcan Headquarters ceased
to exist or not while the rule had different text, it exists now.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:01:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 538 (Balsamic Dragon)

Balsamic Dragon has been chosen.  (hey, i knew that :)

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 538 - February 16, 1998
Subject: Money in the Bank
Initiator: Alfvaen (sent February 13, 1998, 2:25 p.m.)
Judge: Balsamic Dragon (selected February 16, 1998, 12:00 p.m.)
Judgement:

Statement:

The total number of A$ is 100,001 less the combined values of all extant
Trinkets and Majiks.

Alfvaen's Reasoning:

That number was 100,000, by Rule 505, just before I bought the Magic
Radish from Balsamic Dragon's Vending Machine.

From the Blueprint, Rule 594.4:

   If a Vending Machine is owned by the possessor of the Magic Potato, e
   may vend therefrom Magic Radishes. The price for which a Magic Radish
   may be sold starts at A$7.
   
Balsamic Dragon never changed this price, so it was still A$7 when I bought
the Radish.

   The owner of a Vending Machine may change the price for which the
   Machine sells any item. This fails if the price for that item was
   changed at any time within the preceding thirty days or if the new
   price is not an even integer.

This does not prohibit the price of Magic Radishes from _starting_ at
A$7, since it only prohibits the change of price, not the initial price
as stated in this Rule.
   
   Any player may attempt to buy any item from any Vending Machine. This
   fails if the Vending Machine is broken or unowned; if the Vending
   Machine is not equipped to vend the specified item; or if the player
   attempting to buy the item does not have the current price for which
   the specified Machine sells the specified item.

None of this applied, so my attempt to buy the Radish succeeded.  (Just
covering my bases...)

   If the action succeeds
   then the Machine transfers half of the current price of that item to
   its owner and the other half to the Treasury, and then it creates a
   new item of the type requested and gives it to the buyer.

Now, half of A$7 is A$3.5, and "the other half" is also A$3.5.

By Rule 500, "Entities":

   Entities may not be broken into fractional pieces, and fractional
   pieces of entities may not be created. When any rule or anything else
   empowered by the rules specifies a fractional number of entities are
   created, destroyed, transferred, or otherwise operated upon, that
   action uses the least integer greater than the fractional number in
   place of the fractional number. This paragraph takes precedence over
   all other rules.

So "half the current price of that Item", A$3.5, is rounded up to A$4,
and that was transferred to Balsamic Dragon, "the other half", A$3.5,
also rounded up to A$4, was transferred to the Treasury.

Now apart from the A$7 I paid into the Vending Machine, there was A$99,993
in other A$, Trinkets, and Majiks.  That A$7 somehow gets transformed into
two halves, A$4 and A$4, before getting transferred to the two recipients.
So now there's A$100,001.

Furthermore, the precedence sentence supercedes mere Rule 505:

   AckaDollars may not be created nor destroyed, except as Trinkets are
   created and destroyed. This Rule has precedence over any Rule that
   would create or destroy A$, except it defers to rules concerning the
   creation and destruction of Trinkets.

Well, Rule 501 specified the creation of an Ackadollar there when A$7 was
split into two halves, and Rule 501 has numerical precedence by Rule 102.

   Whenever the Rules specify that
   a Player should receive A$, and do not indicate where those A$ should
   come from, they shall come from the Treasury. Whenever the Rules
   specify that a Player should lose A$, and do not indicate where those
   A$ should go to, or specify that they should be destroyed, they shall
   go to the Treasury instead. The total number of A$ shall always be
   100,000 less the combined value of all extant Trinkets and Majiks
   (including those Trinkets and Majiks created in Ackanomic, yet
   exported as described in the rules).

Although, as I read this, another possibility occurs to me.  The Vending
Machine Blueprint's language is exceedingly vague as to what happens to
the A$7(or whatever you pay to the Vending Machine).  It never says that
the buyer _loses_ the Vending price, it just says that the VM transfers
it to the VM's owner and the Treasury.  It doesn't say where _that_
money comes from either.

So it is also possible that the Machine transferred A$4 to Balsamic
Dragon and A$4 to the Treasury _from me_, in which case I paid A$8 instead
of A$7.  If this is the case, then this CFJ should be ruled FALSE.

Either way, the VM Blueprint language should be cleaned up, and the price
of
a Radish made something even.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:05:10 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Andrew Stefanski)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2700 rejected

> Results of Proposal 2700
> 
> 19/25 votes: Quorum achieved
> 10/17 YES votes: Proposal rejected
> 
> > Proposal 2700 - Fri 06 Feb 1998 17:07 EST
> > Lux aeterna luceat eis
> > Illusion (Andrew Stefanski)

	Hey!  This isn't fair!  I make a proposal, and it gets rejected, and now 
I'm gonna lose points?  This isn't fair!  How am I supposed to do anything when 
you people keep changing the rules on me??  Nobody told me I was gonna lose 
points!!  No fair!  NO FAIR!!  Leave the rules alone!

	There...  now that that's done...  why didn't this one pass?

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:05:59 -0500 (EST)
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 539 (hoover 2300)

Hoover 2300 has been chosen.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 539 - February 16, 1998
Subject: Bandwidth Height
Initiator: Malenkai  (sent February 15, 1998, 7:40 p.m.)
Judge: hoover 2300  (selected February 16, 1998, 12:05 p.m.)
Judgement:

Statement:

The height of the Tower of Bandwidth is between 131 and 132 feet.

Reasoning:

<none>

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:13:04 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Andrew Stefanski)
Subject: Trinket creation...

	I create a trinket named "Rejected Newbie" worth A$50.  It is a round 
medallion, about 3 inches in diameter, and made of lead.  It hangs from a black 
ribbon which is long enough for anybody in the realm of Ackanonia to wear 
comfortably.  On one each face of the medallion is an identical design - a 
generic face, with a very sad expression on it, and above the face are the words 
"Rejected Newbie", sloppily painted in white.  It's really depressing to look 
at.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:25:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Swingpoints for Fortnight ending 16th February 1998

Class A: Swinger Weight Awards

Niccolo - 4
Slakko  - 3
Alfvaen - 2
T.G.W.  - 1

Class B: FairPlay Awards

T.G.W. - 2 (Viruses - Alfvaen referee)
rufus  - 2 (Mediocrity - Rex Mundi referee)

Class C: Party Bonus

Top Party Swinger is Slakko (SPAM)
Fortunato - 1
Balsamic  - 1
rufus     - 1

Total Swingpoints:

38 /dev/joe
29 Red Barn
21 Slakko
19 Niccolo Flychuck
17 Alfvaen
10 Karma
 6 The Gingham Wearer
 4 Fortunato
 4 rufus
 3 ThinMan
 3 Malenkai
 3 Vynd
 2 Balsamic Dragon
 1 two-star

Stabber's Knives awarded:

18/1/98: Slakko (/dev/joe surrendered)
10/2/98: Slakko, The Gingham Wearer (Red Barn surrendered)

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:46:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Swingpoints for Fortnight ending 16th February 1998

> Class B: FairPlay Awards
> 
> T.G.W. - 2 (Viruses - Alfvaen referee)
> rufus  - 2 (Mediocrity - Rex Mundi referee)

Hey, I gave Malenkai a fair play award in Ye Olde Rusty Lantern
on Feb 7.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:59:46 -0500 (EST)
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 538 (FALSE)

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 538 - February 16, 1998
Subject: Money in the Bank
Initiator: Alfvaen (sent February 13, 1998, 2:25 p.m.)
Judge: Balsamic Dragon (selected February 16, 1998, 12:00 p.m.)
Judgement:  FALSE

Statement:

The total number of A$ is 100,001 less the combined values of all extant
Trinkets and Majiks.

Alfvaen's Reasoning:

That number was 100,000, by Rule 505, just before I bought the Magic
Radish from Balsamic Dragon's Vending Machine.

From the Blueprint, Rule 594.4:

   If a Vending Machine is owned by the possessor of the Magic Potato, e
   may vend therefrom Magic Radishes. The price for which a Magic Radish
   may be sold starts at A$7.
   
Balsamic Dragon never changed this price, so it was still A$7 when I bought
the Radish.

   The owner of a Vending Machine may change the price for which the
   Machine sells any item. This fails if the price for that item was
   changed at any time within the preceding thirty days or if the new
   price is not an even integer.

This does not prohibit the price of Magic Radishes from _starting_ at
A$7, since it only prohibits the change of price, not the initial price
as stated in this Rule.
   
   Any player may attempt to buy any item from any Vending Machine. This
   fails if the Vending Machine is broken or unowned; if the Vending
   Machine is not equipped to vend the specified item; or if the player
   attempting to buy the item does not have the current price for which
   the specified Machine sells the specified item.

None of this applied, so my attempt to buy the Radish succeeded.  (Just
covering my bases...)

   If the action succeeds
   then the Machine transfers half of the current price of that item to
   its owner and the other half to the Treasury, and then it creates a
   new item of the type requested and gives it to the buyer.

Now, half of A$7 is A$3.5, and "the other half" is also A$3.5.

By Rule 500, "Entities":

   Entities may not be broken into fractional pieces, and fractional
   pieces of entities may not be created. When any rule or anything else
   empowered by the rules specifies a fractional number of entities are
   created, destroyed, transferred, or otherwise operated upon, that
   action uses the least integer greater than the fractional number in
   place of the fractional number. This paragraph takes precedence over
   all other rules.

So "half the current price of that Item", A$3.5, is rounded up to A$4,
and that was transferred to Balsamic Dragon, "the other half", A$3.5,
also rounded up to A$4, was transferred to the Treasury.

Now apart from the A$7 I paid into the Vending Machine, there was A$99,993
in other A$, Trinkets, and Majiks.  That A$7 somehow gets transformed into
two halves, A$4 and A$4, before getting transferred to the two recipients.
So now there's A$100,001.

Furthermore, the precedence sentence supercedes mere Rule 505:

   AckaDollars may not be created nor destroyed, except as Trinkets are
   created and destroyed. This Rule has precedence over any Rule that
   would create or destroy A$, except it defers to rules concerning the
   creation and destruction of Trinkets.

Well, Rule 501 specified the creation of an Ackadollar there when A$7 was
split into two halves, and Rule 501 has numerical precedence by Rule 102.

   Whenever the Rules specify that
   a Player should receive A$, and do not indicate where those A$ should
   come from, they shall come from the Treasury. Whenever the Rules
   specify that a Player should lose A$, and do not indicate where those
   A$ should go to, or specify that they should be destroyed, they shall
   go to the Treasury instead. The total number of A$ shall always be
   100,000 less the combined value of all extant Trinkets and Majiks
   (including those Trinkets and Majiks created in Ackanomic, yet
   exported as described in the rules).

Although, as I read this, another possibility occurs to me.  The Vending
Machine Blueprint's language is exceedingly vague as to what happens to
the A$7(or whatever you pay to the Vending Machine).  It never says that
the buyer _loses_ the Vending price, it just says that the VM transfers
it to the VM's owner and the Treasury.  It doesn't say where _that_
money comes from either.

So it is also possible that the Machine transferred A$4 to Balsamic
Dragon and A$4 to the Treasury _from me_, in which case I paid A$8 instead
of A$7.  If this is the case, then this CFJ should be ruled FALSE.

Either way, the VM Blueprint language should be cleaned up, and the price
of
a Radish made something even.

Judge's Reasoning:

I believe that the Initiator's second idea was correct.  There are two
possibilities:

The buyer never actually loses the amount of A$ equal to the purchase price
(they simply must be in possession of it to use the vending machine);

or, the A$ in question are tranfered from the buyer, to the owner of the
machine and the treasury respectfully.  

In this case, I think that game custom and a sensible reading of the rules
points to the second option.  Thus, when Rule 594.4 attempts to call for
the transfer of A$3.5 from the buyer to the owner of the machine, it
actually, by Rule 500, transfers A$4.  Same when it transfers to the
treasury.  Thus, the buyer of a magic radish is out A$8 instead of A$7, and
the number of total Ackadollars remains unchanged.

Note:  There could be a real problem if someone attempts to, say, buy a
magic radish when e only possesses A$7.  This should be fixed.

Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:06:56 -0500 (EST)
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Actions

Actions:

I am changing the price at which my machine vends Radishes from 7 to 8
ackadollars.  I am purchasing a Magic Radish from my machine.

Request:

To the person who just got the Little Lamb in GAD:  Want to trade?  Lend me
the Little Lamb and I'll give you a Santa's Beard.

Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:11:17 -0500 (EST)
From: **Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ping*

Today is Monday, the 16th day of February, and the Machine That Goes
*ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been scholar, the Machine has
gone *ping* 3 times.

**two-star

Scholar of *ping*

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:30:08 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Swingpoints for Fortnight ending 16th February 1998

>> Class B: FairPlay Awards

>> T.G.W. - 2 (Viruses - Alfvaen referee)
>> rufus  - 2 (Mediocrity - Rex Mundi referee)

>Hey, I gave Malenkai a fair play award in Ye Olde Rusty Lantern
>on Feb 7.

And I thought I gave my FairPlay award to breadbox, for being the first
to halt TGW's runaway virusing...

- --
- --Alfvaen (Web page:http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/)
Current Album--Bruce Cockburn:Inner City Front
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
Clocks don't bring tomorrow--knives don't bring good news

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:50:23 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 539 (hoover 2300)

Vivian Norwood wrote:
> 
> Hoover 2300 has been chosen.
> 
> Clerk of the Courts
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Call For Judgement 539 - February 16, 1998
> Subject: Bandwidth Height
> Initiator: Malenkai  (sent February 15, 1998, 7:40 p.m.)
> Judge: hoover 2300  (selected February 16, 1998, 12:05 p.m.)
> Judgement:
> 
> Statement:
> 
> The height of the Tower of Bandwidth is between 131 and 132 feet.
> 
> Reasoning:
> 
> <none>
because it's tall?

hoover 2300

"Please let me tell you,
they own our homes
they own our banks
they buy their money
to make their tanks."

From the littlest baby to the biggest V.I.P. 
these are all tools of the conspiracy.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:31:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Swingpoints for Fortnight ending 16th February 1998

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> >> Class B: FairPlay Awards
> 
> >> T.G.W. - 2 (Viruses - Alfvaen referee)
> >> rufus  - 2 (Mediocrity - Rex Mundi referee)
> 
> >Hey, I gave Malenkai a fair play award in Ye Olde Rusty Lantern
> >on Feb 7.
> 
> And I thought I gave my FairPlay award to breadbox, for being the first
> to halt TGW's runaway virusing...

Sorry - will fix shortly.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:32:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Corrected Full Swingpoint Log

Swingpoints awarded during Slakko's Chess-Umpireship:

Date    /dev/joe  Red Barn  Karma  Slakko  Niccolo  Alfvaen
10/11      4          3               2
24/11      6          5               4                3
 8/12      6          3               4       2        5
15/12                                                  1
22/12      5          2               1       4        3
 5/ 1      5          2               1       3        4
19/ 1                 1               2       3        4
 2/ 2      2          2               4       5        3 
16/ 2                                 3       4        2

Date    Malenkai  ThinMan  Vynd  T.G.W.  Fortunato  two-star
 8/12      1         1       1
22/12      1         1       1
 5/ 1      1         1       1 
19/ 1                               2        2         1
 2/ 2                               1        1        
16/ 2      2                        1        1 

Date    Balsamic  rufus  breadbox
 2/ 2      1        1
16/ 2      1        3       2

Swingpoints Cashed In:
6 Jan 98: Alfvaen cashed 8 for 16 points.
2 Feb 98: Niccolo cashed 5 as trade-in on a Bishop Purchase.
13 Feb 98: Niccolo cashed 4 for 1 Bonus Vote.

Next  Award: Monday 2nd March.
Current NoS: 4.

Total Swingpoints
38 /dev/joe
29 Red Barn
21 Slakko
19 Niccolo Flychuck
17 Alfvaen
10 Karma
 5 Malenkai
 4 The Gingham Wearer
 4 Fortunato
 4 rufus
 3 ThinMan
 3 Vynd
 2 Balsamic Dragon
 2 breadbox
 1 two-star

Stabber's Knives awarded:

18/1/98: Slakko (/dev/joe surrendered)
10/2/98: Slakko, The Gingham Wearer (Red Barn surrendered)

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:31:35 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Potato

I have found the Magic Potato this week.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Les Miserables:A Heart Full of Love
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
"Petting zoo?  I thought this was a Killing and Corpse Raping Zoo..."

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:36:37 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Tailor

As Beldin's Tailor, I am amending Rule 940 to replace "gains" with
"paints".

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Vangelis:Albedo 0.39
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
The road's risen up to meet me, and it won't go back down!

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:47:47 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: New Observer

We have a new observer of Ackanomic, named Timothy Carding-Allen,
<[email-masked]>, who wrote:

> Hi!
> Timothy Carding-Allen's the name, and I'm interested in becoming an observer 
> of Ackanomic for a while, so that I can get a true feel for the game before 
> joining. I only discovered Nomic a brief while ago, and am already hooked. I 
> found Acka through Pete Suber's list of active Nomics, and browsed your 
> history and rules. Truly you run a most amazing game, and I look forward to 
> participating. If you could forward all relevant mail to :-

> [email-masked]

> then I would be most grateful. Happy harfing,

> T. Carding-Allen (Assistant Administrator of the National Arts Education 
> Archive)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Vangelis:Albedo 0.39
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
In a solemn ceremony, they giggle viciously.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:38:32 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: return

> I assume that CFJs sent to the acting preator remain with 
>   that player upon my return.  Morever, I assume that the
>   CFJ ThinMan appealed remains with breadbox and the player
>   who was the acting preator.  I *know* that is how we have done
>   it in the past, but how we did it in the past does not necressarily
>   indicate correctness :-).  If I am wrong, please let me know.  Also,
>   if I am wrong, I judge all CFJs assigned to me as preator 
>   'UNDECIDED' without comment.  (If I am wrong, I will not be
>   able to look at them by tomorrow anyway).

As I read the Rules, the only time who holds the office of Praetor is
relevant is when the CFJ is being reassigned after the deadbeat.  I
can't find anything that would cause the CFJ to be reassigned because
of a change in the identity of the Praetor.

> I hope to propose major changes to the CFJ appeal process, including
>    possible elimination of the SC.  My sense is that it is pretty broken,
>    and I have been thinking about it alot while on vacation.  Since I do
>    not have the time or bandwidth to subscribe to acka-research, e-mail
>    me with any suggestions you have for such a rewrite (including 'don't 
>    do it; the current system cannot be improved upon'), as appropriate.
>    I will prolly RFC the ideas first, if it gets that far.

Sounds interesting...can't wait to hear more.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Mae Moore:Bohemia
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
Hearts have not been broken.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:50:48 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: SBoC Random OC determination

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# Player: GF - 1
# I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
# delivered from the spell book of chorg based on the following
# schedule:
# 1 - go fish
# 2 - map shard
# 3 - summon tornado
# 4 - untouch me
# 5 - share my expenses
# 6 - share my income
# 7 - tactical retreat
# 8 - paratroop
# 9 - truthseeker
# 10 - fix my gadget
# 11 - scientist for a day
# 12 - art thief
# 13 - grave robber
# No skeleton key(max in play)
# No swinging sale(max in play)
# No foul fowl(max in play)

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> #T Acka: SBoC Random OC determination
> 
> #C Player: GF - 1
> #C I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
> #C delivered from the spell book of chorg based on the following
> #C schedule:
> #C 1 - go fish
> #C 2 - map shard
> #C 3 - summon tornado
> #C 4 - untouch me
> #C 5 - share my expenses
> #C 6 - share my income
> #C 7 - tactical retreat
> #C 8 - paratroop
> #C 9 - truthseeker
> #C 10 - fix my gadget
> #C 11 - scientist for a day
> #C 12 - art thief
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> #C No swinging sale(max in play)
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:02:11 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Actions

> Request:

> To the person who just got the Little Lamb in GAD:  Want to trade?  Lend me
> the Little Lamb and I'll give you a Santa's Beard.

Unfortunately, the Little Lamb is not a tradeable entity, so it cannot be
transferred except by Rule 929, or by Grab-A-Donkey.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Mae Moore:Bohemia
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
Pardon me, the cheese slipped off my cracker for a moment.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:13:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Swingpoints for Fortnight ending 16th February 1998

> Total Swingpoints:

>  3 Malenkai

My records indicate that I have 3505 swingpoints, give
or take :)

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:16:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Swingpoints for Fortnight ending 16th February 1998

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Malenkai wrote:

> > Total Swingpoints:
> 
> >  3 Malenkai
> 
> My records indicate that I have 3505 swingpoints, give
> or take :)

No they don't.
This is a blatant lie.

Yours,
Slakko
not going to fall for that one.
- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:21:21 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: new nomic

> A new nomic, BWG-Nomic, of which I am speaker and
> the only current player, can be found at:

> http://www.itw.com/~malenkai/mn.htm

Ooh, can I play?  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--The Nits:Hat
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
In the space ship, the silver space ship, the lion waves goodbye.

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:28:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Presidential Wonderings

I have received the following nominations for the position of
Trinket-Harfer (in alphabetical order):

The Gingham Wearer
K 2
rufus
Slagothor

Before I exercise my privilege of deciding which of you shall fill this
role once Alfvaen steps down, I must devise a test.
Yes.  Ahahahaha! A test.

You must first bring me - a shrubbery.  Ni!

No, seriously folks, if you want the job show me what you can do with a
webpage.  URLs by private email will save on Bandwidth Wasting Gizz (how
many people didn't know what BWG stood for :-))  I'll decide on the basis
of the most effective and aesthetically pleasing treatment of Trinkets.

Yours,
Slakko
President
enjoying this immensely

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko (Lost) Warner - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/ - Queens' College
Cambridge, 1st Yr PhD(PMa) - .Nomic Elector, Frgn Minister, HP(Morpork)
Acka - President "Gumball" RuneMaker ChessUmpire Map-Harfer

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:37:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Presidential Wonderings

>No, seriously folks, if you want the job show me what you can do with a
>webpage.  URLs by private email will save on Bandwidth Wasting Gizz (how
>many people didn't know what BWG stood for :-))  I'll decide on the basis
>of the most effective and aesthetically pleasing treatment of Trinkets.

I'm thinking the first person to write a web page with a bot, so that it can
be made to reflect who owns what easily, should get the job.   : )

Don't look at me like that. It's just a suggestion guys.

Why the 4 by 4?

Ouch.

CnH

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:39:46 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Fortnightly Dividends, Feb 16, 1998

Score changes used for dividend calculation:
- --------------------------------------------
Alfvaen: 56
Balsamic Dragon: 27
Bill the pirate king: 4
breadbox: 56
Calvin N Hobbes: 48
Crackfoo: -6
Device: 0
/dev/joe: 20
else...if: 1
Fortunato: 15
The Gingham Wearer: -4
Goldenmean: 25
Guy Fawkes: 21
Hachiman: 0
Hoover 2300: 22
Illusion: 10
K 2: 14
Karma: 0
Malenkai: 41
Michael Wren: 0
Niccolo Flychuck: 21
Red Barn: -11
Rex Mundi: 16
Robert Sevin: 0
rufus: 3
Slagothor: 49
Slakko: -6
ThinMan: 15
two-star: 2
Vynd: 63
 
Fortnightly Dividends
- ---------------------
Alfvaen: 56  -->  56
Balsamic Dragon: 27  -->  27
Bill the pirate king: 4  -->  4
breadbox: 56  -->  56
Calvin N Hobbes: 48  -->  48
Crackfoo: -3  -->  -6/2
Device: 0  -->  0
/dev/joe: 20  -->  20
else...if: 1  -->  1
Fortunato: 15  -->  15
The Gingham Wearer: -2  -->  -4/2
Goldenmean: 25  -->  25
Guy Fawkes: 21  -->  21
Hachiman: 0  -->  0
Hoover 2300: 22  -->  22
Illusion: 10  -->  10
K 2: 14  -->  14
Karma: 0  -->  0
Malenkai: 41  -->  41
Michael Wren: 0  -->  0
Niccolo Flychuck: 21  -->  21
Red Barn: -5.5  -->  -11/2
Rex Mundi: 16  -->  16
Robert Sevin: 0  -->  0
rufus: 3  -->  3
Slagothor: 49  -->  49
Slakko: -3  -->  -6/2
ThinMan: 15  -->  15
two-star: 2  -->  2
Vynd: 63  -->  63

#award Alfvaen: 56 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Balsamic Dragon: 27 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Bill the pirate king: 4 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award breadbox: 56 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Calvin N Hobbes: 48 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Crackfoo: -3 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award /dev/joe: 20 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award else...if: 1 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Fortunato: 15 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award The Gingham Wearer: -2 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Goldenmean: 25 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Guy Fawkes: 21 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Hoover 2300: 22 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Illusion: 10 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award K 2: 14 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Malenkai: 41 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Niccolo Flychuck: 21 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Red Barn: -6 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Rex Mundi: 16 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award rufus: 3 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Slagothor: 49 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Slakko: -3 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award ThinMan: 15 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award two-star: 2 A$ : dividend Feb 16
#award Vynd: 63 A$ : dividend Feb 16

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--The Nits:Hat
Current Book--Michael P. Kube-McDowell:Alternities
The tiger can't change his spots.  No, wait, he did!  Good for him! --Handey

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:40:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Rico <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Presidential Wonderings

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:

> No, seriously folks, if you want the job show me what you can do with a
> webpage.  URLs by private email will save on Bandwidth Wasting Gizz (how
> many people didn't know what BWG stood for :-))  I'll decide on the basis
> of the most effective and aesthetically pleasing treatment of Trinkets.

Actually, I just volunteered because I have a lot of Web space (near
200 MB on one machine) and didn't think anyone else wanted to do it.  Same
with the Web-Harfer thing.  Since the other nominees are probably able to
put more time and artistic integrity into it than I (and will be players
for more than a semester, which I may not be) I cancel my self-nomination
in both elections.

About the Web-Harfer bit, I have a neat little Java program that copies
all the files from a remote site, and in doing so, trims any absolute
URLs (that is, those that point to www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/acka 
instead of simply ./whatever) to local ones.  If this could be of use to
you, given the amount of broken links on your page, let me know and I'll
send it to you.  (Your page looks good, by the way.  I support your self-
appointment as Web-Harfer. :-) )

Oh, and could I possibly convince you to vote for the Stoned proposal If I
were to re-propose it now?  Or would you anti-vote because it'd be Foolish
and you'd stand to gain more?  :-/

- -rico

The gene pool could use a little chlorine. 

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:54:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Rico <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Presidential Wonderings

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Rico wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
> 
> > No, seriously folks, if you want the job show me what you can do with a
> > webpage.  URLs by private email will save on Bandwidth Wasting Gizz (how
> > many people didn't know what BWG stood for :-))  I'll decide on the basis
> > of the most effective and aesthetically pleasing treatment of Trinkets.
> 
> Actually, I just volunteered because I have a lot of Web space (near
> 200 MB on one machine) and didn't think anyone else wanted to do it.  Same
> with the Web-Harfer thing.  Since the other nominees are probably able to
> put more time and artistic integrity into it than I (and will be players
> for more than a semester, which I may not be) I cancel my self-nomination
> in both elections.

Whoops.  Sorry, folks.  (Boy, is my face red.)  I'd call a snowgod's
Disease Hearing against myself, but I can't.  Sorry again.

- -rico, marveling again at the prescience (and insolence) of his "random"
.sig generator

The gene pool could use a little chlorine. 

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:08:05 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: Snowgod's hearing results

The results of the snowgod's disease Hearing are 5-3 No, e, Uh, meant to
do that.

rufus
Count Tabula

No	Alfvaen
No	Basalmic Dragon
No	TGW
No	else...if
No	else...if's EBS
Yes	Slagothar
Yes	Slakko
Yes	k 2

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