Subject: ackanomic digest V2 #476
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ackanomic digest       Tuesday, January 20 1998       Volume 02 : Number 476

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:45:05 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Parade + Vacation

On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Malenkai wrote:

> The description of the parade I'm supposed to describe is:
> "It is green", and said description is interesting.
> 
> I go on vacation in all threads, expected duration of 
> 6 days.  Alfvaen has volunteered to be Acting Speaker in
> my thread.  No purpose other than to keep the random
> determinations from getting worse.
> 
> I also am not getting all the e-mail for this game.  My ISP
> doesn't think its them, and I don't either.  I guess that is
> just tough tomatoes.  Oh well.  Anyone else having this
> problem?

I'm not sure, but maybe.  There's been mention of a CFJ on whether or not
/dev/joe had to resign in Party Chess.  I'm pretty sure I never saw that
one.  If it so happens that I was selected to judge this, someone had best
let me know...

                                       - Vynd'

[email-masked]

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:38:57 -1000
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:Treasure

I am creating a Trinket called Vegetarian Lasagne. It is worth $A 100
and has the following description :

    It is a large slab of poorly sliced, half cooked vegtible-like blobs
of mush irregularly interspersed with crunchy sheets sheets of what
could be cardboard. It is best not to even think about what it may taste
like.

I am burying the Vegetarian Lasagne with a couple (2) of Share your
income otzma cards and a Skeleton Key Otzma Card.

I imagine someone who does the following will find the treasure

*** **
**** **
** **** ****** ******* **

K2 :)

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:10:41 -1000
From: K 2 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: SPAM

I  humbly request admittance to SPAM.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:23:40 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: SPAM

I approve of K2's admission to SPAM.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	K 2 [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Wednesday, January 21, 1998 5:11 AM
>To:	[email-masked]
>Subject:	Acka: SPAM
>
>I  humbly request admittance to SPAM.
>

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:56:24 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Discovery

> While perusing ancient volumes of mystical lore, I came across some
> remarkable rituals, incantations, and symbols of power.  I have yet
> to explore the full usefulness of these, but I have made some progress.
> I can therefore report the following Discovery:
> 
> Circle of Mystic Protection

  I can see the Otzma card now... COP: Paradox.

___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______
<[email-masked]><[email-masked]> http://users.bergen.org/~dankna
Change Nomic!   http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~chatham/nomicfaq.html
Murphy was a pessimist.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:11:34 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: eggplants

> Balsamic Dragon:
> 
> 28)The owner of this hat has won a game of viruses.
> 
> 29)The owner of this hat has successfully white-water rafted down the
> Ackanomian River.
> 
> 30)The owner of this hat has been chosen as
> a judge for a call for justice (criminal or non) three times and, after
> all possible appeals are processed, has not had eir judgment overturned.

As a subnote for those who receive these hats, they are named the
Infectuous Hat, the Inflatable Hat, and the Infallable Hat, respectively.

Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:55:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: eggplants

> > I'm afraid I am one of those for which this was more or less gibberish.
> > Could any kind soul tell me which eggplants I recieved?  A list of where
> > all the eggplants went would be peachy, actually, but mostly I need to
> > know about mine...
> 
> You have 14 (negative, non-integral or non-numerical quantity of stuff),
> 21 (Chartreuse Goose), and 23 (five rejected props followed by five
> accepted props).

  While you're at it, could you...?

___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______
<[email-masked]><[email-masked]> http://users.bergen.org/~dankna
Change Nomic!   http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~chatham/nomicfaq.html
Great minds think differently.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:50:19 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: SPAM

yOn Wed, 21 Jan 1998, K 2 wrote:

>
'

I approv.

 I  humbly request admittance to SPAM.
> 

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:53:43 -0600
From: "Crackfoo" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Acka: CFJ]

I retract this due to a typo.

Crackfoo

- -----Original Message-----
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
To: Ackanomic <[email-masked]>
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 5:34 PM
Subject: [Fwd: Acka: CFJ]

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:49:08 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Otzma Auction

I bid A$13 in the Scientist for a Day Otzma Card Auction.
I bid A$13 in the Grave Robber Otzma Card Auction.

- -- 
Duncan C. "" Richer aka
Slakko the Really Lost Warner Brother - http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University
Ackanomic - RuneMaker - Chess-Umpire - Map-Harfer - Senator - Swinger

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:25:41 -0700
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Otzma Bids

Things being a bit less hotly contested this time(everyone must be
still broke from the last Auction), I'll bid A$16 on each of the Otzma
Card auctions, if they are still open.  (By the way, I'm not sure if
increasing a bid from, say, A$13 to A$14 is valid, because A$14 is not
10% greater than A$13...)

- -- 
- --Alfvaen (Web page:http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/)
Song In My Head--Trent Reznor:The Perfect Drug
Current Book--Charles Dickens:Great Expectations
Giant purple watermelons!

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:14:53 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma Bids

> Things being a bit less hotly contested this time(everyone must be
> still broke from the last Auction), I'll bid A$16 on each of the Otzma
> Card auctions, if they are still open.  (By the way, I'm not sure if
> increasing a bid from, say, A$13 to A$14 is valid, because A$14 is not
> 10% greater than A$13...)

I'll bid twenty A$ on all auctions of otzma cards that I am currently able
to.

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:09:53 -1000
From: Rico <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma Bids

On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, The Gingham Wearer wrote:

> 
> I'll bid twenty A$ on all auctions of otzma cards that I am currently able
> to.

I bid A$30 on the Scientist for a Day Otzma Card Auction.

- -rico

Where do you want to go, toady?

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:47:34 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Fw: Acka: CFJ 513 (Red Barn)

In an attempt to make things less (more?) complicated, I publish this
official result if a) I am Clerk of the Courts, b) it is in my power to
distribute this, and c) it will make the lives of any ackanomians easier.

I cannot, however, distribute CFJ 512 because, as far as I can tell, I
never received it directly or through the main list.  The record I have of
CFJ 512 is a message from Malenkai that says that it was originally sent to
his personal address.

If anyone who has a better grasp on the thread split would like to suggest
that I distribute something, please let me know.  I had previously decided
to err on the side of caution with respect to actions I might regret later
;)  

Sorry for letting this wait all weekend, I was at a con and didn't get back
into work until today...

I believe this can now be appealed at the same time as the other CFJ and
all will be decided one way or the other.

Balsamic Dragon
Clerk of the Courts

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> From: A.K.A. TheWiz <[email-masked]>
> To: Ackanomic <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 513 (Red Barn)
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 12:50 PM
> 
> > CFJ 513 has been assigned to Red Barn.
> 
>   I accept this.  I also return verdict by this message; see below.
> 
> > Acting Clerk of the Courts
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Call For Judgement 513
> >   Subject: Malenkai's playerhood II
> > Initiator: Slakko
> > Submitted: 98-01-13 04:52
> >     Judge: Red Barn (selected 98-01-13 10:34)
> > Judgement:
> > 
> > Statement:
> > 
> > Malenkai is a player of Ackanomic.
> > 
> > Initiator's Reasoning:
> > 
> > Rule 1 says:
> > 
> > The game state may not be altered in such a way as to cause the
customary
> > interpretation of this rule to be changed. 
> > 
> > Earlier in Rule 1 it says:
> > 
> > Those players who were members of Vulcan on August 28, 1997 [/dev/joe,
> > Malenkai, ThinMan, and Vynd] are Evil Overlords of Ackanomic (retired).
No
> > other players and no non-players are Evil Overlords of Ackanomic
> > (retired). 
> > 
> > The change in the game state from Malenkai being a player to Malenkai
no
> > longer being a player creates a conflict in Rule 1, between the first
> > sentence and the second sentence.  This therefore attempts to change
the
> > customary interpretation of the rule (clearly the interpretation cannot
be
> > the same if a conflict appears from no conflict).  Hence the change to
the
> > game state which caused the change is a figment of everyone's
imagination.
> > Hence Malenkai never left the game of Ackanomic.  Hence Malenkai is
still
> > an active player.
> 
>   I agree that he never left the game; that he is still active remains
> to be shown though it is probably the case.  TRUE.
> 
> 
> ___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip
Bonk_______
> <[email-masked]><[email-masked]>
http://users.bergen.org/~dankna
> Change Nomic!   http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~chatham/nomicfaq.html
> Great minds think differently.
> 

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:52:56 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma Bids

> I bid A$30 on the Scientist for a Day Otzma Card Auction.
> 
> -rico

I bid A$35 on this.

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:59:33 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 513 (Red Barn)

> In an attempt to make things less (more?) complicated, I publish this
> official result if a) I am Clerk of the Courts, b) it is in my power to
> distribute this, and c) it will make the lives of any ackanomians easier.
> 
> I cannot, however, distribute CFJ 512 because, as far as I can tell, I
> never received it directly or through the main list.  The record I have
of
> CFJ 512 is a message from Malenkai that says that it was originally sent
to
> his personal address.
> 
> I believe this can now be appealed at the same time as the other CFJ and
> all will be decided one way or the other.

I believe someone said that it would be best if Slakko appealed this
verdict. I want this appealed but if it would be easier for someone else to
do it then I shall let them. Can someone who knows what's going on please
tell me :-).

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:04:17 -0000
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma Auction

#transfer RexBank, Rex Mundi: 600 A$

I bid 20 A$ in each of the following:
the Grave Robber Otzma Card Auction
the Share Your Income Otzma Card Auction
the Share My Expenses Otzma Card Auction.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:14:22 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Fwd: Acka: CFJ with typo corrected.]

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From: "Crackfoo" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ with typo corrected.
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:54:36 -0600

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Don't know whether to send this to you or not, since it questions =
whether or not you are actually supposed to distribute CFJ's.
=20

=20
Statement:
    CFJ's distributed by Malenkai are invalid.
=20
This is a paradox win CFJ
=20
Reason:
    Malenkai resigned as CotC before quitting the game.  The question of =
whether Malenkai could quit or not has nothing to do with him being the =
CotC.  Since Malenkai resigned as CotC, it is no longer his duty to =
distribute CFJ's.  Malenkai also resigned as Speaker, so the duties of =
CotC do not fall to Malenkai in that way either.
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:10:16 -0800
From: Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma Auction

I bid 25 A$ on the Share Your Income Otzma Card

**two-star

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:50:35 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Duel (Slakko vs. /dev/joe)

Harken!  /dev/joe, viciosuly attacked by Slakko, and now challenged to a
Duel of Honor, has chosen to accept!  Woe unto Slakko, for he shall never
defeat /dev/joe in the game of Viruses.  /dev/joe stands ready for the
referee to begin the game.

                     - Vynd, second to /dev/joe

[email-masked]

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