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ackanomic digest       Sunday, January 11 1998       Volume 02 : Number 458

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:19:11 -0000
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Results

> You try ineffectually to scrabble away at the dirt over Chaos's grave
> with your fingers, but since you have no shovel, the card has no effect.
> 
Ahhhh.

I create a trinket, value 5 A$, entitled: Rex's golden shovel of stupidity.
This is a glowing golden shovel, which makes a loud "D'oh!" sound when it
is smacked off someone's head.

I then spend 15 minutes smacking myself on the head with it, before playing
a Grave Robber card on Chaos.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:35:33 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Results

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Gavin M. Doig wrote:

> > You try ineffectually to scrabble away at the dirt over Chaos's grave
> > with your fingers, but since you have no shovel, the card has no effect.
> > 
> Ahhhh.
> 
> I create a trinket, value 5 A$, entitled: Rex's golden shovel of stupidity.
> This is a glowing golden shovel, which makes a loud "D'oh!" sound when it
> is smacked off someone's head.
> 
> I then spend 15 minutes smacking myself on the head with it, before playing
> a Grave Robber card on Chaos.
> 

Alas poor Rex has fallen here
For e has failed to read
The first rule in the Otzma Suite
Before e did this deed.

Twelve hundred forty full stop one
The rule which specifies
How Otzma Cards created are
By RuneMakers most wise.

Twas section V subsection 8
That had poor Rex undone.
For 3 days after an Otzma use
You can't use another one.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:06:51 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Harf!

Just a quick note to point out that proposal 2568 seems harfy to me.

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:55:07 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: destroying the green

On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, **Alexandre Muniz wrote:

> I am turning in
> sculpture 7, sculpture 11, sculpture 17, sculpture 19, sculpture 23, and
> sculpture 29 for cash. (should work out to 738 A$) I am giving 607 A$ to
> else..if. Sorry about the wait.
> 
> **two-star

What a complete waste of Acka's valuable and irreplacable cultural
heritage. 

rufus, speaking on behalf of the Arts & Antiquties community.

> 

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:32:15 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: politeness moon hearing....

I forgot to vote on that one... 

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, David Scheidt wrote:

> I suppose that announcing the results of the Politeness Moon hearing
> Niccolo called on Malenkai is still required?  I don't see any mechanism
> for it not happening.
> 
> Anyways, the result is 'Yes, it was Polite."  I am not sure if Malenkai
> gets the nickname "Jazz JackRabbit" or not.  The rule says the player gets
> the nickname, and Malenkai is no longer a player.  
> 
> voting results below.
> 
> rufus
> Count Tabula
> 
> No, it was not polite.
> 
> Alfvaen
> 
> Yes, it was polite.
> 
> ThinMan
> else...if
> Malenkai (does his vote count?)
> Rex Mundi
> 
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> 

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:33:36 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2561 rejected

> Towsner wrote:
> > 	That's okay.  It still wouldn't have passed if you had voted for
> > it.  Besides, I don't mind if people vote against my proposals in general,
> > I'm just annoyed at Vynd for going out of his way to shoot down a proposal
> > he knew would pass otherwise.

> Some of us would rather not have Acka have a state religion.
> Ever since we invented Churches in Acka, more than a year ago, we've
> had freedom of religion here, and some of us would like to see it stay
> that way.  And witchhunts, to say the least, are old and beaten into the
> surface of the hemispherical earth, already.

I think it would've been fun to have the Church of Azpiazu as State
Religion, for a little while at least.  I'm not sure what we would've
made heretical, though.  Saying Cheez-Whiz's were useless or something,
I imagine.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Stevie Nicks:Blue Lamp
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Death - 30,000,000,000 people can't be wrong.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:38:41 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Tornado

> > Did the Tornaod occur when Malenkai played his card, or only just
> > now when you announced its results?

> >   Rule 1240.4/2
> >   Otzma Card of type Summon Tornado
> >   Malenkai (Randy Hall)

> > A Card of this type can only be played in the public forum.

> > A Tornado shall sweep through Acka 4 days after this card takes effect
> > [i.e., 7 days after it is played].

D'oh.  Visions of whirlwinds danced in my head, but I apologize for having
inflicted them on anyone else.  For some reason I was thinking of the last
unscheduled Tornado, but that was from the Ackanomicon, wasn't it?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Bobby McFerrin:Don't Worry Be Happy
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Prufrock's Aphasia: the inability to speak for fear of being misinterpreted.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:39:54 -0500
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: destroying the green

>I am turning in
>sculpture 7, sculpture 11, sculpture 17, sculpture 19, sculpture 23, and
>sculpture 29 for cash. (should work out to 738 A$) I am giving 607 A$ to
>else..if. Sorry about the wait.
	And I finally, much belated, give A$300 to The Gingham Wearer.
Sorry about the wait.

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

Ne dubita, cum magna petes, impendere parva
Do not hesitate to sacrifice the little things when your goal is great
	-Cato

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:44:21 -0500
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Tornado

>I'm presuming, since I haven't bothered to check Slakko's most recent
>map, that everyone who was Sheltered for the last Tornado is still
>Sheltered.  If anyone has moved, let me know and I'll recalc.
	Sorry, I moved back home last night.

- --
- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

Ne dubita, cum magna petes, impendere parva
Do not hesitate to sacrifice the little things when your goal is great
	-Cato

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:58:59 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: New Player (Me)

Okay, I did mention something about a new player joining yesterday...
now it's finally time to add em.

Eir real name is Ed Murphy, eir email address is [email-masked], and
the Ackanomic name e has chosen is Murphy.  E as also elected to join
as a non-voting player.

I have been chosen as eir Mentor.  (So as Mentor, Registrar, and Acting
Speaker, I'm the only one legally required to answer eir questions...:-)

Let's welcome Murphy into our fold at this time of relative chaos.
(Though I'll tell ya, it was worse when Chaos left and /dev/joe had to
resign eir offices...)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Six Steps Down:I Tell Myself
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Grumpy wizards make toxic brew for the evil Queen and Jack.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:02:19 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Assistant Web-Harfers

After much deliberation, I have decided to be democratic.  Slakko can
maintain the Hall of Elders, and The Gingham Wearer can do the Portrait
Gallery.  (Because I like Slakko's list of Birthdays, but I had problems
with some of the stuff on eir Portrait Gallery...black-on-black fonts and
stuff.)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Six Steps Down:I Tell Myself
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
I don't see you so don't pretend to be there.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:08:16 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Assistant Web-Harfers

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> After much deliberation, I have decided to be democratic.  Slakko can
> maintain the Hall of Elders, and The Gingham Wearer can do the Portrait
> Gallery.  (Because I like Slakko's list of Birthdays, but I had problems
> with some of the stuff on eir Portrait Gallery...black-on-black fonts and
> stuff.)

That's weird.  I copied the page pretty much as was from mr cwm's version.
I didn't change any of the font colours when I edited it.

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:13:59 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: mr cwm's jobs

> How dare you!  Look for the beam in your own eye, say I!  You who have
not
> even attempted to induct the latest members into the Hall!  

I have inducted the latest members into the hall now they have become
members. I find your early addition, before they had become members, to be
presumptuous and quite frankly, despicable.

> You who have done nothing to make the list of Holidays more accessible! 

Absolutely useless. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can work this out
for themselves from my page. It's far better to have nothing of the sort
than to have such a list that contradicts the main body of the page at
least twice!

> You who sit back and dare to mock me when you have not even bothered with
a  
> BGCOLOR tag!

Done and done.

> 
> > My gallery is functional. Snazzy backgrounds only detract from the true
> > purpose, as does having links to personal organizations such as
Newspapers.
> > This is clearly an attempt at personal gain. As for mr cwm, I like to
treat
> > all players equally, providing each with the same amount of space. If
and
> > when he becomes an elder I shall review this process.
> 
> Get reviewing, buckaroo.  Your slavish devotion at the altar of complete
> equality has led you to overlook reality.

I have reviewed after mr cwm's induction and you shall see that all is now
well. I also notice your avoidance of the point about personal glory.

Incidentally, the treasure pages are partly done. If anyone feels a need to
look at them then they are at
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/8814/treasure and
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/8814/found

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:21:09 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Assistant Web-Harfers

> After much deliberation, I have decided to be democratic.  Slakko can
> maintain the Hall of Elders, and The Gingham Wearer can do the Portrait
> Gallery.  (Because I like Slakko's list of Birthdays, but I had problems
> with some of the stuff on eir Portrait Gallery...black-on-black fonts and
> stuff.)

Now seems like a good time to make sure all the new players are aware of
the portrait gallery. It can be found at
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/8814/gallery and I welcome
submissions from all players. So come on Goldenmean and BtPK (and anyone
else for that matter), send me your pictures!!

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:38:31 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Player (Me)

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> Okay, I did mention something about a new player joining yesterday...
> now it's finally time to add em.
> 
> Eir real name is Ed Murphy, eir email address is [email-masked], and
> the Ackanomic name e has chosen is Murphy.  E as also elected to join
> as a non-voting player.

So where did e find out about Ackanomic from?

Oh, can I put myself on the mentor list?  We seem to be getting a bit
low on spare mentors.

Hosing a go go,
- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:55:28 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: New Pages

I've moved a few more pages over to my site.  Specifically, I've set up
the Current Events page(which I think I'll keep, for now), and the Clerk
of the Court page and CFJ Ineligibility List, which I do not guarantee
100% the accuracy of.  Whoever becomes CoTC can hopefully take over these
anyway...

I also copied over the ones right at the top of the page, the introduction
to Ackanomic etc.; if anyone else has any suggestions for improvements
to those, let me know.  (I know they need improving, but I just don't feel
like doing it...:-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Basia:The Sweetest Illusion
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
A lack of leadership is no substitute for inaction.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:03:34 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: IRC

You know the place, you know the channel.

I'll be there.

But I'll be hosed.

Like that's going to stop me... :-)

Slakko, who should have lost about $10000 by now if e had it.

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:14:28 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2561 rejected

> > Some of us would rather not have Acka have a state religion.
> 
> I think it would've been fun to have the Church of Azpiazu as State
> Religion, for a little while at least.  I'm not sure what we would've
> made heretical, though.  Saying Cheez-Whiz's were useless or something,
> I imagine.

Hmm, the Church of Azpiazu as state religion might not be too bad.
I shudder to think of the church of odo on the wormhole or the church
of the markovian dream as state religion, though.  Anybody for an
enforced belief of "creating enforced beliefs is evil"?

/dev/joe

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:10:34 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Rotter

I almost forgot, Onieros' undead has decomposed, since e left the game
on October 10th.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Basia:The Sweetest Illusion
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Lucille was secretly thrilled when Norman sucked her toaster.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:25:58 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Pages

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> I've moved a few more pages over to my site.  Specifically, I've set up
> the Current Events page(which I think I'll keep, for now), and the Clerk
> of the Court page and CFJ Ineligibility List, which I do not guarantee
> 100% the accuracy of.  Whoever becomes CoTC can hopefully take over these
> anyway...

Err, I know I volunteered for the job, but I cannot maintain any webpages.
So perhaps you had best um, pick someone else.

                                   - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:33:26 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Pages

> Err, I know I volunteered for the job, but I cannot maintain any
webpages.
> So perhaps you had best um, pick someone else.

Good grief boy, what's wrong with you? Get a page from Geocities. And don't
give me any of that "but I don't know HTML" rubbish either. I first came
across it on Dec 20 and am now reasonably competent on a basic level.

Of course you can do it!!

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:50:27 -0800
From: aaron shapiro <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Assistant Web-Harfers

Hrmmmmm...I think I have a really good picture of goldenmean on hand
 (I think he knows which one I mean. ;-))  maybe I will use it on him...
errr submit it.

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From:  The Gingham Wearer
Sent:  Sunday, January 11, 1998 11:21 AM
To:  [email-masked]
Subject:  Re: Acka: Assistant Web-Harfers

> After much deliberation, I have decided to be democratic.  Slakko can
> maintain the Hall of Elders, and The Gingham Wearer can do the Portrait
> Gallery.  (Because I like Slakko's list of Birthdays, but I had problems
> with some of the stuff on eir Portrait Gallery...black-on-black fonts and
> stuff.)

Now seems like a good time to make sure all the new players are aware of
the portrait gallery. It can be found at
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/8814/gallery and I welcome
submissions from all players. So come on Goldenmean and BtPK (and anyone
else for that matter), send me your pictures!!

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:34:20 -0800
From: aaron shapiro <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Tornado

I would rather get my first points another way, no apology necessary.
Seems a little bit of a chaet to get my FIRST point by a tornado
I would no t have been very amused.  Wouldn't have earned it. :-)

So, three players' scores were unchanged.  My apologies to Bill the pirate
king; with 0 points, you could reasonable expect to gain points in a
Tornado, but unfortunately it didn't happen.  A lot of changearounds otherwise, though

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:11:07 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: CFCJ 148 Appeal

I apologize for making Malenkai (or anyone else, for that matter),
appeal this CFCJ.  I'd never judged one,  one day in Gaol was a
completely inoffensive punishment (I had never seen anyone in Gaol,
either).  I also apologize to CnH, for making him do his day of time.

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Malenkai [SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent:	Friday, January 09, 1998 8:53 PM
>To:	Ackanomic
>Subject:	Acka: CFCJ 148 Appeal
>
>I appeal CFCJ 148 with the following comments:
>
>-----
>
>The CFCJ should probably have been judged INVALID, if
>it ever existed at all.  Failing that, FALSE is the correct
>verdict.  See rule 710, section 3, and rule 251.
>
>If the verdict is upheld, however, see CFCJ 146 for a more 
>appropriate penalty for an honest mistake.
>
>I certainly do not understand how this new stand on crime
>is "harfy", and why players need to go to Gaol for making
>honest mistakes.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:20:04 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Vacation

I am going on vacation for an expected duration of 8 days (though I might
return a couple days sooner).  I will probably miss one round each of
fictionary, mediocrity, and viruses, but I won't let that stop me from
trying to win those games.  Real preparation for a YORL game starts when
I get back.  If there are any offices left unclaimed, or which somebody
is doing just because *somebody* has to do it, I might volunteer for one
when I get back.

Don't tear the place up too much while I'm gone. :-)

/dev/joe
(-: smiley abuser)

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:07:07 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: New Pages

> > I've moved a few more pages over to my site.  Specifically, I've set up
> > the Current Events page(which I think I'll keep, for now), and the Clerk
> > of the Court page and CFJ Ineligibility List, which I do not guarantee
> > 100% the accuracy of.  Whoever becomes CoTC can hopefully take over these
> > anyway...

> Err, I know I volunteered for the job, but I cannot maintain any webpages.
> So perhaps you had best um, pick someone else.

You did say only to pick you if nobody else volunteered.  That turns out
not to be the case, so likely I wouldn't have picked you anyway.  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--David Johansen:In Style
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Absence makes the heart grow fungus.

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