Subject: ackanomic digest V2 #446
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ackanomic digest        Monday, January 5 1998        Volume 02 : Number 446

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:11:38 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: He's Baaaaacccckkkk!

On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Duncan Richer wrote:
> 
> I hereby create a trinket valued at A$12, called the "Pro-Rata Payment".
> It looks like 15/31sts of a cheque for A$25, which was initially made out
> to the Chess-Umpire.
> 
> I give the Pro-Rata Payment to Niccolo Flychuck.

Thanks. I ack this and addit to my collection of chess related Trinkets/

Niccolo Flychuck

> 
> I also wish a retrospective Merry Christmas to all the agnostics out there
> who want it.
> 
> Yours Happy New Yearingly,
> 
> Slakko
> - --
> Duncan "these type of messages always take ages" Richer aka
> Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
> Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 07:51:47 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: The nail-bitting conclusion of GAD!

Well, I didn't think that I'd be able to do it, what with my several
vacations and all that.  The last round was tense, but after days of
careful deliberation, I managed to make my choice.  A careful review of
Thinman's GAD plays, his CFJ rulings and his posts to the public forum
led me to believe that he was a bold player, with a broad streak of
craftiness.  Someone like that may have chosen the cunning and clever
scissors play, but I believed that strength would win out over slyness,
and that left only rock, paper being too gentle and passive a play. :)

>----------
>From: 	John Frederic Mc Coy[SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent: 	Sunday, January 04, 1998 10:52 PM
>To: 	[email-masked]
>Cc: 	[email-masked]
>Subject: 	Acka: The nail-bitting conclusion of GAD!
>
>
>Well, it all came down to this, the Round of the Spider Woman.  ThinMan
>and Fortunato, easily the best Grab A Donkey players in the game today,
>faced off in a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors.
>
>ThinMan boldly led off play with a Rock.
>
>A few days later, Fortunato chose to strike with Paper.
>
>A careful review of the Rules has determined that with this play Fortunato
>has defeated ThinMan and grabbed his Donkey.  Fortunato now stands alone
>atop the GAL, and as the only remaining player is named the winner and
>Belt Holder for this game of Grab A Donkey.  He is rewarded with 7 points,
>3 for his victory and 4 for the donkeys he grabbed.  He also has the
>privilige of proposing a change to the Rules of Grab A Donkey.  
>
>The final scores:
>
>> > > > > Crackfoo   1 (eliminated)
>> > > > > mr cwm     2 (eliminated)
>> > > > > Red Barn   1 (eliminated)
>> > > > > ThinMan    4 (eliminated)
>> > > > > breadbox   1 (eliminated)
>> > > > > Rex Mundi  3 (eliminated)
>> > > > > /dev/joe   3 (eliminated)
>> > > > > two-star   1 (eliminated)
>
>and
>
>> > > > > Fortunato  4  Belt Holder
>
>

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:55:47 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 507 (/dev/joe)

> 2) As to determining if the none voting member of Internomic tCoOotW is
the
> same as the Ackanomic church tCoOotW. Why not get Balsamic Dragon to
> request some info about the members of the nomic, when it was formed,
etc.
> I get an uncanny feeling that the info we get back might be fairly
similar
> to the Acka church, which would suggest that they are the same thing.
> 
> 
> The Gingham Wearer.

I don't think that it really matters if they are the same, only whether the
Church in Acka is qualifiable as a nomic.  What happens to the Church in
Acka, even if it is destroyed for being a nomic, should not affect whether
or not it can be a voting member of Internomic.

Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 09:01:43 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Map Custodian

Anyone wanna be map custodian for the RoJ treasure?  Don't
all jump at once :)

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:56:41 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Appeals

> 
> Frivolous appeals should be penalised with a large penalty.  Not doing
> so penalises the original, honest, judge, while giving the appealer a
> free ride.  Aside from the effort put into judgement, which in my case
> has sometimes taken in excess of 8 hours, its a bad game risk to bet 
> one point to yourself for one point to an appealer, who prolly is not
> in a position close to winning.
> 

My god, man!  Eight hours!  I once spent an entire lunch break on a
judgment and wondered whether it was really worth the time, but I can't
believe that the kind of effort you are putting in can be seen as typical. 
At least I hope not!

Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:22:12 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Actions

I was sitting in my house this morning, when I noticed that it was
simply a vast (though small) expanse of gray.  So, I decided to describe
it thusly:

"It is green."

I then left my house, which is now a vast (though small) expanse of
green, and journeyed to the Library, which I'd heard so much about, but
never seen.  After wandering for several hours through aisle after aisle
of dusty, forgotten books, I found a small wooden door hidden behind a
huge pile of ancient tomes.  The door was covered with ten or fifteen
padlocks, all of which sprung open as I looked at them.  The door swung
slowly open, and a hot, dusty wind sprang from the room.  I covered my
eyes with one hand and tried to peer through my fingers into the
darkness, but all I could see was a faint glow from the far distance.
Suddenly I felt drawn to enter, and my feet pulled me in, more or less
against my will.

Yes, I am going into *that* room.

- --
Aaron Keesler
Adtran, Inc.
- --

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:17:08 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: acka: auction

I bid 3 A$ on the Runestone Fragment #6
I bid 5 A$ on the Otzma Card.

(Why not? :)

>----------
>From: 	Gavin M. Doig[SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent: 	Sunday, January 04, 1998 2:17 PM
>To: 	ackanomic
>Subject: 	acka: auction
>
>I am calling a public auction on the Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment #6.
>Minimum bid is 3 A$.
>
>I am calling a public auction on my Otzma Card Tactical Retreat. Minimum
>bid is 5 A$.
>
>Rex Mundi, Chief Cheese.
>

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:24:36 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: acka: auction

On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, AARON KEESLER wrote:

> I bid 3 A$ on the Runestone Fragment #6
> I bid 5 A$ on the Otzma Card.
> 
> (Why not? :)

Well, the Otzma Card is only useful to those playing Party Chess.  It is a
Tactical Retreat card after all.

Besides, with an Otzma Day (tm) Coming Up, the supply of Otzma Cards will
increase, while demand for them remains static.  Will it change the price?
You make the call.

Yours,
Slakko

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:43:58 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CRD weirdness

Well I have noticed that in the Rules Alfvaen's CRD is mentioned as having
ammended a number of things that I don't think it actually changed.  The
one I'm looking at right now is the Phoebe the Steal Flea Rule, there are
some others that I noticed in the past but didn't think to make a note of.
Is this an error of some kind, or am I not understanding something that
the CRD did?

                                - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:58:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CRD weirdness

> Well I have noticed that in the Rules Alfvaen's CRD is mentioned as
> having ammended a number of things that I don't think it actually
> changed.  The one I'm looking at right now is the Phoebe the Steal
> Flea Rule, there are some others that I noticed in the past but
> didn't think to make a note of.  Is this an error of some kind, or
> am I not understanding something that the CRD did?

By my reading, CRD 101 unmade all the changes that Proposal 2439 made,
and then applied them itself (minus the important one). It did not say
that Proposal 2439 was applied, it stated that "the rule changes
*described* in Proposal 2439" were applied. (Emphasis mine.)

I took this to mean that CRD 101 was actually the entity that
instigated the changes, so I noted it as such.

breadbox

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:29:14 -0000
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: Phoebe

I went to the Temple of Azpiazu, there to meditate on the shape of His
ineffable shapelessness. While I was there, I drifted off into sleep.
I seemed to find myself on a vast plain, blasted as though by some
antediluvian battle amongst gods. I trudged across this desolate landscape,
seeking only some shelter from the pitiless wind that moaned and shrieked
as it scoured the landscape.
The wind... so I thought at first, but there was a certain quality about
some of the noises I heard that suggested some hideous meaning to the
sound, as though some nameless surviving thing from long ago was gibbering
mindlessly to itself.
These noises made me uneasy, and I began to hurry towards the hills I could
see on the horizon in front of me. I had been moving for some time before I
noticed that the horrible noises I had been hearing had stopped. At first I
was relieved, but soon I realized that they had been replaced by a
grotesque slithering noise from behind me, as though the gibbering thing
were squirming and writhing toward me!
I broke into a run, but I could hear the nameless monstrosity gathering
momentum behind me. Any second now it would reach me! In my haste and
terror, I slipped on the loose gravel that everywhere covered the barren
plain. As I lay cowering on the rough ground, I felt something begin to
move up one of my necks.
"Rex! Rex! Wake up!"
As I snapped awake, I recognized the voice. It was Phoebe!
"Phoebe... I've never been so glad to see you." As I spoke, I realized the
advantages of bicephalism. I was able to speak normally while
simultaneously breathing heavily. "How are things with Ursula?"
The steal flea looked, despite the apparent zoological incongruity,
sheepish.
"Well, we've... let's just say, we've decided to work together on something
more, um, serious than our... disagreement."
"It must be very serious indeed, if it's enough to make you two reconcile!
What kind of disastrous threat to Acka is it?"
Phoebe began to look more confident. She had, I suppose, somewhat more
practice at this kind of thing.
"Long ago, the Elders of Ackanomia lived in harmony with all things, in
accordance with certain codes. For ten thousand generations the Elders were
the guardians of Harf, and it was only by observing these codes that they
were able to maintain their Harfiness. Now, one of the most basic of these
codes, the Code of Pedantry, is being routinely broken, and by some of the
most respected players of today. It pains me to say it, but some of them
are using a smiley in place of a closing bracket."
"What?" I exclaimed, but the Steal Flea had departed, leaving me alone in
the Temple to ponder the meaning of her strange words.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:38:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Magic Letter

>> I name "y" as the MTTP's magic letter.
> 
> Can I just confirm that this is a magic letter for the Machine that goes
> *ping*. I can't think of anything else that it could be but I just want to
> make sure.

<psssst: else...if! I think he's talking to you!>

breadbox
impatient student

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:49:34 -0500
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Magic Letter

>>> I name "y" as the MTTP's magic letter.
>>
>> Can I just confirm that this is a magic letter for the Machine that goes
>> *ping*. I can't think of anything else that it could be but I just want to
>> make sure.
>
>
><psssst: else...if! I think he's talking to you!>
	Oops.  Sorry, yes.  To avoid future uncertainty: MTTP is officialy
declared as an appropriate abbreviation for The Machine that goes *ping*.
In case of any problems, I grant myself the power to declare things to be
appropriate abbreviations.

- --
Omnium pro iure, ius pro omnio

- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	"For there never was yey philosopher
	That could endure the toothache patiently"
	-William Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing, act 5, scene 1

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:57:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Magic Letter

> 	Oops.  Sorry, yes.  To avoid future uncertainty: MTTP is
> officialy declared as an appropriate abbreviation for The Machine
> that goes *ping*.  In case of any problems, I grant myself the power
> to declare things to be appropriate abbreviations.

Interesting. Do you also have the power to explain this particular
abbreviation?

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:05:03 -0500
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Magic Letter

>> 	Oops.  Sorry, yes.  To avoid future uncertainty: MTTP is
>> officialy declared as an appropriate abbreviation for The Machine
>> that goes *ping*.  In case of any problems, I grant myself the power
>> to declare things to be appropriate abbreviations.
>
>Interesting. Do you also have the power to explain this particular
>abbreviation?
	Obviously.  the Machine That Goes *Ping*:MTTP  Right.  Really,
that's why I did.  It certainly wasn't a typo, and yet more evidence I
shouldn't do things like that when I'm half asleep.  Nope, that definately
wasn't it.

- --
Omnium pro iure, ius pro omnio

- -Henry Towsner, AKA else...if, The Fearless Alibi Posesser, Laefu, and Yilran

	<[email-masked]>

	"For there never was yey philosopher
	That could endure the toothache patiently"
	-William Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing, act 5, scene 1

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:06:03 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Magic Letter

> > 	Oops.  Sorry, yes.  To avoid future uncertainty: MTTP is
> > officialy declared as an appropriate abbreviation for The Machine
> > that goes *ping*.  In case of any problems, I grant myself the power
> > to declare things to be appropriate abbreviations.

> Interesting. Do you also have the power to explain this particular
> abbreviation?

I figured it was: "M" for Machine, "T" for The, "T" because it's close
to "G" for Goes on the keyboard, and "P" for *ping*.

I think it should be MTG* myself, but what do I know...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Colin James Hay:Looking For Jack
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies.

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 22:09:44 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CPPIA

/dev/joe wrote.

> I resign from the committee.

As do I.  As hoc has got to be replaced with hearings.

In any case, the new members are:

Vynd
The Gingham Wearer

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 22:56:17 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Potato

Fortunato has found the magic potato.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:54:44 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma!

> > As RuneMaker, I hereby declare an Otzma Day, to begin in 3 days time.
> > I do know that LSAP >= 12, but I do not know what LSAP equals.  Does
> > anyone know it offhand?

> I'll check to see if there've been any other Chrome Streaks since the
> last Otzma Day.

The last Otzma Day was back near the beginning of July(I'm not quite
sure exactly when, but I think July 9th or 10th).  The next Chrome
Streak was 10 Proposals long, and then came the 12-Proposal one(if you
count the null one at #11).  So LSAP is, I believe, in fact 12.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Cactus World News:Urban Beaches
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:22:28 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: A Sad Farewell

No, not me, _I'm_ not leaving the game.  No, even sadder than that.
Having taken the coward's way out and Sheltered myself in the Tornado
(not to mention not having declared P2550 Modest), I have now lost the
Great Trombone of Ackanomia, since my score now exceed 152, by four
points.  <sniff>

Oh, well, I believe that I did get to lead one Parade with it, for
Proposal 2176 back in July...  But all the other ones since then have
been retracted, I think.  It's like a curse!  And I never got to Vend
a Wall of Trombones with it, either.

So whoever next gets 76 points will be the next Holder of the Trombone.
I'll be paying attention, but you have to note it publicly when it
occurs...

Anyway, to drown my sorrows, and since I don't need to worry about keeping
my score low anymore, I am converting 8 of my Swingpoints into Points,
and another 4 into a Bonus Vote just 'cause.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Cactus World News:Urban Beaches
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
My baby she don't know me when I think about those years.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:33:07 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: January Salaries

The following salaries were paid out at noon ackatime today:

Jan 05 12:00 EST: +35 A$ Malenkai: salary - speaker 35
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ breadbox: salary - promoter 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - web-harfer 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ breadbox: salary - tabulator 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ rufus: salary - count tabula 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - registrar 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - scorekeeper 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - financier 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Malenkai: salary - clerk of the court 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Vynd: salary - CSRR 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ breadbox: salary - postmaster 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Slakko: salary - map-harfer 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - undead-harfer 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - trinket-harfer 25
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +1 autosculp The Gingham Wearer: salary - treasure-harfer
Jan 05 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Slakko: salary - chess-umpire 25

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Tom Petty:Wildflowers
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Perhaps President Clinton's amazing sax skills will be judged quite favorably.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:44:40 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Fortnightly Dividends, January 5, 1998

First a note: because of the CFJ 484 thing, K 2 received A$10 more
at the last bond cycle because e turned out not to be a deadbeat
after all.

And now, the first Fortnightly Dividends ever, and also, coincidentally,
of 1998:

Fortnightly score changes:
- --------------------------
Alfvaen: 57
Antimatter: 0
Archie Leach: 0
Balsamic Dragon: -5
breadbox: 23
Calvin N Hobbes: 0
Crackfoo: 0
/dev/joe: 7
else...if: -10
Fortunato: 8
The Gingham Wearer: 2
K 2: 13
Karma: 0
Malenkai: 9
Michael Wren: 0
mr cwm: 4
Niccolo Flychuck: 8
Red Barn: 6
Rex Mundi: 16
Robert Sevin: 0
rufus: 14
Slakko: 11
ThinMan: 1
two-star: -10
Vynd: 13
 
#award Alfvaen: 57 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award Balsamic Dragon: -3 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award breadbox: 23 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award /dev/joe: 7 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award else...if: -5 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award Fortunato: 8 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award The Gingham Wearer: 2 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award K 2: 13 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award Malenkai: 9 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award mr cwm: 4 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award Niccolo Flychuck: 8 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award Red Barn: 6 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award Rex Mundi: 16 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award rufus: 14 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award Slakko: 11 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award ThinMan: 1 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award two-star: -5 A$ : dividend Jan 5
#award Vynd: 13 A$ : dividend Jan 5

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Tom Petty:Wildflowers
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Y is for Yoric whose head was bashed in, Z is for Zilla who drank too much gin.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 23:59:45 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Conformity

On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Malenkai wrote:

> /dev/joe wrote.
> 
> > I resign from the committee.
> 
> As do I.  As hoc has got to be replaced with hearings.
> 
> In any case, the new members are:
> 
> Vynd
> The Gingham Wearer
> 

I resign from the Committee, it seems to be the in thing to do.

                                   - Vynd

[email-masked]

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