Subject: ackanomic digest V2 #445
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ackanomic digest        Sunday, January 4 1998        Volume 02 : Number 445

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:52:37 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: He's Baaaaacccckkkk!

I hereby return from vacation, one day early (Huzzah!)

I thank Niccolo for performing the Chess-Umpire's job - I'll be going
through and fixing that stuff up shortly.

I'll also be posting my old truth of *ping* to acka-games soon.  Trust me.

Thanks also to Alfvaen for performing a nice null job as Map-Harfer.

And thanks to everyone for voting me in as RuneMaker (provided I actually
am). :-)

Yes, my web pages are back up now.  I didn't want to leave my fire hazard
running for two weeks while I was more than 10000 miles away on the other
side of the world, which is of course flat.

I hereby create a trinket valued at A$12, called the "Pro-Rata Payment".
It looks like 15/31sts of a cheque for A$25, which was initially made out
to the Chess-Umpire.

I give the Pro-Rata Payment to Niccolo Flychuck.

I also wish a retrospective Merry Christmas to all the agnostics out there
who want it.

Yours Happy New Yearingly,

Slakko
- --
Duncan "these type of messages always take ages" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:02:12 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Missing Results

> > Does anyone have voting results for Proposals 2205-2211 

> All were rejected.  I have the detail if you need it (T9707 7/11/97)

I probably just missed those results when I switched over from the
digest list, which I was on the day before.  /dev/joe sent them to me.

> > and 2227?

> This I cannot find results for or retraction of in my archives.
> I guess my archives are not as complete as I thought they were :(

Nor mine.  I'm wondering if there were results at all.  It was Dread
Pirate Roberts' Proposal to ensure unique Rule and Proposal titles,
and I imagine it was retracted, but I can't find the retraction.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--The Payola$:Eyes of A Stranger
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Six big devils from Japan quickly forgot how to waltz.

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 19:47:36 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Otzma!

As RuneMaker, I hereby declare an Otzma Day, to begin in 3 days time.
I do know that LSAP >= 12, but I do not know what LSAP equals.  Does
anyone know it offhand?

Yours,
RuneMaker Slakko

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 19:49:34 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Crazy Action

I hereby join the Organization "the standard Harfer fee".

Yours,
Slakko the over-organizationed.

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:50:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Missing Results

>>> Does anyone have voting results for Proposals 2205-2211 
> 
>> All were rejected.  I have the detail if you need it (T9707 7/11/97)

This matches my information.

> I probably just missed those results when I switched over from the
> digest list, which I was on the day before.  /dev/joe sent them to me.
> 
>>> and 2227?
> 
>> This I cannot find results for or retraction of in my archives.
>> I guess my archives are not as complete as I thought they were :(
> 
> Nor mine.  I'm wondering if there were results at all.  It was Dread
> Pirate Roberts' Proposal to ensure unique Rule and Proposal titles,
> and I imagine it was retracted, but I can't find the retraction.

Uh, proposal 2227 was "removed from voting consideration by Rule 701".

As far as I can tell, Dread Pirate Roberts told nomicbot to retract it
but forgot to make a public announcement, and Mohammed failed to catch
the error. Admittedly, I don't know that this is what happened, but it
seems the most likely scenario.

I have, just recently, been updating the missing information in the
proposal archive, but I haven't yet gotten the data up on the web
pages. Soon, I promise.

breadbox

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:57:19 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Missing Results

> >>> and 2227?

> >> This I cannot find results for or retraction of in my archives.
> >> I guess my archives are not as complete as I thought they were :(

> > Nor mine.  I'm wondering if there were results at all.  It was Dread
> > Pirate Roberts' Proposal to ensure unique Rule and Proposal titles,
> > and I imagine it was retracted, but I can't find the retraction.

> Uh, proposal 2227 was "removed from voting consideration by Rule 701".

> As far as I can tell, Dread Pirate Roberts told nomicbot to retract it
> but forgot to make a public announcement, and Mohammed failed to catch
> the error. Admittedly, I don't know that this is what happened, but it
> seems the most likely scenario.

I'll mark it down in propchart.html under "Other".  :-)

I was just fixing propchart.html, finding a few unrecorded rejections
and retractions, one or two acceptances(thankfully, not enough for
anyone to have missed getting a medal), and quite a few typos.  It should
be up to date now, but since some of the mistakes have been during my
tenure, it won't necessarily remain so.  But I still enjoy keeping it
up...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Ani DiFranco:Imperfectly
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
Give me a black as bright as it is hot.

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:58:40 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma!

> As RuneMaker, I hereby declare an Otzma Day, to begin in 3 days time.
> I do know that LSAP >= 12, but I do not know what LSAP equals.  Does
> anyone know it offhand?

Well, now, doesn't LSAP depend on the results of the Null Proposal CFJ?
After all, if because of that Null Proposal an Otzma Card is created that
is used by someone to get points, it couldn't have been created, right?
:-)

I'll check to see if there've been any other Chrome Streaks since the
last Otzma Day.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Ani DiFranco:Imperfectly
Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
I swear by the shelters of the stars(a mighty oath, if you but knew it)...

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:00:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Missing Results

Speaking of this ...

When I went to pull the information off of the propchart page, I
discovered, much to my dismay, that it is positively riddled with
errors. Missing and duplicated proposals, proposals put down for the
wrong person, etc etc. I guess it shouldn't be too much of a surprise
- - when data like that is accumulated over such a long period of time,
there are bound to be mistakes. Anyway, I went through and
painstakingly checked out every proposal in which the proposal archive
and propchart didn't match. (Which turned out to be a good idea - I
found at least one where propchart was correct and the proposal
archive was wrong.)

It'll be a little while before I can regenerate the proposal archive
pages. But, in the meantime, I can send you directly the corrected
data for propchart. If you like, I'll write a short Perl script to
pull the data out, and you can HTMLize it and then go from there....

breadbox

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:04:38 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Otzma!

On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> > As RuneMaker, I hereby declare an Otzma Day, to begin in 3 days time.
> > I do know that LSAP >= 12, but I do not know what LSAP equals.  Does
> > anyone know it offhand?
> 
> Well, now, doesn't LSAP depend on the results of the Null Proposal CFJ?
> After all, if because of that Null Proposal an Otzma Card is created that
> is used by someone to get points, it couldn't have been created, right?
> :-)

Actually, it could have been created, they just don't get the points that
would otherwise have resulted. :-)
- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:16:27 -0000
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: going to the bank

I go to RexBank, and give it the following items:
175 A$
the Laundry Clean Disk(tm)
the Asbestos Underpants
Polly Parrot
A wool sweater (the one I'm not wearing)

I suggest that RexBank accept all of the above items. (Do I need to?)

I leave the People's Council for Internomic.
I leave the Committee for Understanding.
I leave The Player Sanctioned Organization Preservation Society.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:17:00 -0000
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: auction

I am calling a public auction on the Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment #6.
Minimum bid is 3 A$.

I am calling a public auction on my Otzma Card Tactical Retreat. Minimum
bid is 5 A$.

Rex Mundi, Chief Cheese.

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:24:55 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Magic Letter

> I name "y" as the MTTP's magic letter.

Can I just confirm that this is a magic letter for the Machine that goes
*ping*. I can't think of anything else that it could be but I just want to
make sure.

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 18:43:36 -0800
From: **Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 507 (/dev/joe)

Malenkai wrote:
> 
> CFJ 507 has been assigned to /dev/joe
> 
> Clerk of the Courts
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Call For Judgment 507
>   Subject: Church Existance
> Initiator: ThinMan
> Submitted: 98-01-02 09:07
>     Judge: /dev/joe (selected 98-01-02 14:20)
> Judgement:
> 
> Statement:
> 
> No Ackanomic Church named The Church of Odo on the Wormhole exists.

Well, It's a good thing the universal nomic rule was repealed. I'd hate
to be responsible for destroying the Universe! (If the Universe were
destroyed, might one have a case for a pwcfj stating that ackonomic play
could not continue without it?) For that matter, when the rule to get
Nomics with certain letters in their names to recognize our president as
harf god went through, South Africa and The United States of America
were suggested as suitable candidates. If this is so, then they, (and
all of the world's govenments,) were destroyed in one swell foop.

I'll still pay my taxes just in case.

**two-star

(still on vacation.)

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:06:23 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Destruction

Well, thank you :)  Thank you very much.

>----------
>From: 	[email-masked][SMTP:[email-masked]]
>Sent: 	Friday, January 02, 1998 6:58 PM
>To: 	[email-masked]
>Subject: 	Re: Acka: Destruction
>
>
>> > I hereby destroy the following trinkets for cash:
>
>> > Molly Parrot
>
>> You destroyed Molly Parrot?!?!
>
>> You heartless fiend!
>
>I take it you're representing the Arts and Antiquities communities
>in this matter?  Sorry, I'm just feeling poor right now, but can't
>bring myself to destroy the Trinket of Near-Infinite Possibilities.
>
>
>--
>--Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
>Current Album--Blondie:Eat To The Beat
>Current Book--David Foster Wallace:Infinite Jest
>"Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the grave."
>

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:52:02 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The nail-bitting conclusion of GAD!

Well, it all came down to this, the Round of the Spider Woman.  ThinMan
and Fortunato, easily the best Grab A Donkey players in the game today,
faced off in a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors.

ThinMan boldly led off play with a Rock.

A few days later, Fortunato chose to strike with Paper.

A careful review of the Rules has determined that with this play Fortunato
has defeated ThinMan and grabbed his Donkey.  Fortunato now stands alone
atop the GAL, and as the only remaining player is named the winner and
Belt Holder for this game of Grab A Donkey.  He is rewarded with 7 points,
3 for his victory and 4 for the donkeys he grabbed.  He also has the
privilige of proposing a change to the Rules of Grab A Donkey.  

The final scores:

> > > > > Crackfoo   1 (eliminated)
> > > > > mr cwm     2 (eliminated)
> > > > > Red Barn   1 (eliminated)
> > > > > ThinMan    4 (eliminated)
> > > > > breadbox   1 (eliminated)
> > > > > Rex Mundi  3 (eliminated)
> > > > > /dev/joe   3 (eliminated)
> > > > > two-star   1 (eliminated)

and

> > > > > Fortunato  4  Belt Holder

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