Subject: ackanomic digest V2 #431
From: [email-masked] (ackanomic digest)
To: [email-masked]

ackanomic digest       Monday, December 22 1997       Volume 02 : Number 431

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:02:08 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : Chess Umpireship

On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> > The way I see the rules, once Slakko left on Vacation PartChess, including
> > all PartyChess deadline is suspented. If Alfvaen does indeed appoint me in
> > an acting position, I intend to carry out the duties, and once I'm
> > appointed, the chess clock will start ticking again.
> 
> But Chess-Umpire is an Optional Office, so the Acting Chess-Umpire has
> no privileges _and_ no duties.  So I think this leaves you unable to
> Umpire Chess at all.
> 
The way I understand Optional Offices, an acting Officer can carry out,
but is not obliged to, the duties of Office, but does not enjoy the
priviliges.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 01:40:35 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 500 (Vynd)

I accept judgement on CFJ 500.

                                     - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 01:48:22 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 501 (Vynd)

I accept judgement on CFJ 501, and once again ask just what is up with
Malenkai's Judge selection methods...

                                   - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 05:37:55 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: the church of banna

I still need another follower to found this church.

rufus

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 06:46:10 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: tornado score swapping?

Are the scores that got swapped when the tornado hit accurate?  Some of
the proposals that breadbox announced the results to expired before the
tornado hit.  

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 06:49:36 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: tornado score swapping?

On Mon, 22 Dec 1997, David Scheidt wrote:

> Are the scores that got swapped when the tornado hit accurate?  Some of
> the proposals that breadbox announced the results to expired before the
> tornado hit.  

never mind. R207 is clear, and the results are right as they are.

> 

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:56:38 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  the Church of banna

I am founding the Church of banna.  The members of the Church of banna
are:  rufus (who is the founder); Slakko, a priest;  The Gingham Wearer, a
priest; and Red Barn, also a priest.

The Church Dogma is as follows:

All those who do not know the nature of banna are to be pitied.  All
members of the Church of banna know the nature of banna.

rufus

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:43:15 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Resignation and Runemaker

I vote for Slakko.  

If Slakko's proxy permits me, and if he has not already made a succesful
vote for himself, I cast his vote for Slakko as well.

Balsamic Dragon
- ----------
> From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
> To: Ackanomic <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Acka: Resignation and Runemaker
> Date: Saturday, December 20, 1997 3:54 PM
> 
> 1) I resign as Count Tabula.
> 
> 2) The following have volunteered for the office of Runemaker.
> Reply to breadbox to vote:
> 
> Alfvaen
> The Gingham Wearer
> Slakko

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:55:46 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Resignation and Runemaker

Whoops, that was supposed to go to breadbox.  Sorry!

Balsamic Dragon

- ----------
> From: Vivian Norwood <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: Acka: Resignation and Runemaker
> Date: Monday, December 22, 1997 10:43 AM
> 
> I vote for Slakko.  
> 
> If Slakko's proxy permits me, and if he has not already made a succesful
> vote for himself, I cast his vote for Slakko as well.
> 
> Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 15:57:34 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  the Church of banna

> I am founding the Church of banna.  The members of the Church of banna
> are:  rufus (who is the founder); Slakko, a priest;  The Gingham Wearer,
a
> priest; and Red Barn, also a priest.
> 
> The Church Dogma is as follows:
> 
> All those who do not know the nature of banna are to be pitied.  All
> members of the Church of banna know the nature of banna.

I leave all churches of which I am a member except for the Church of banna.
I know I'm a member of one but I can't recall what it is called.

The Gingham Wearer. 

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:57:58 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Synod Stuff

Some time ago, Slakko wrote:

> As Delegate of Religious Nutcase to the Synod, I suggest that the Synod
> convert its two trinkets, Democracy? and Demoncracy! into cash.
> I vote in favour of this suggestion.

> Therefore, there are more votes in favour of this suggestion than against
> it, and so the Synod is considered to support this action.

> As Delegate of Religious Nutcase to the Synod, I suggest that the Synod
> gift all its A$ to the Organization called Religious Nutcase.  
> I vote in favour of this suggestion.

> Therefore, there are more votes in favour of this suggestion than against
> it, and so the Synod is considered to support this action.

> As a member of Religious Nutcase, I suggest that it gift an amount of A$
> equal to half its balance less A$55 to Balsamic Dragon, and that it
> simultaneously gift an amount of A$ equal to half its balance plus A$55 to
> Slakko, thereby gifting away all of its A$.  I support this suggestion.

I believe that Slakko is fundamentally correct in his statements here,
but the fact that the Yor-Delegate is the one who acts on behalf of the
Synod means, I think, that this does not occur until the Yor-Delegate
announces it.  And it is entirely possible that by that time the Synod
may no longer support it.  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Depeche Mode:A Question of Lust
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
I was up until three in the morning fixing the moon.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:21:17 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess RFC

> It might make sense to destroy it and create a named marker when puting it
> in the treasury.  When the marker is removed, it would be replaced by a
> brand-spanking new Capital Swinger Office.  It looks like it is impossible
> to call an Auction Them Entities Hearing on a unnamed entity.  (So you
> can't call an auction on the A$ in the treasury..., too bad.)  

I'm intending to replace the Auction them Entities rule as well.  It
doesn't have any restrictions at the moment on what you auction, except
that it is one at a time, so auctioning A$ won't be particularly rewarding.
:-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Glass Tiger:The Thin Red Line
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
"CAUTION: Knife is very sharp. Keep out of children"

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:27:37 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: acka: tornado score swapping?

> Are the scores that got swapped when the tornado hit accurate?  Some of
> the proposals that breadbox announced the results to expired before the
> tornado hit.  

Yes, but the score changes don't take effect until the voting results
are announced.  It's in Rule 205 somewhere, I believe.

What _I'm_ not clear about is whether the score changes for a Chrome Streak
take place when the Streak-breaking proposal's results are posted, or when
the Brass Monkey's climb is announced.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--The Moody Blues:Your Wildest Dreams
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
Jail zesty vixen who grabbed pay from quack.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:29:30 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka:  the Church of banna

> I leave all churches of which I am a member except for the Church of banna.
> I know I'm a member of one but I can't recall what it is called.

I believe it was AHH#1, which was formed strictly as a test.  I think
the CFJ results have already been returned, in fact.

I also leave the Cult of AHH#1.  I have my own Church to attend to.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--The Moody Blues:Your Wildest Dreams
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
We promptly judged antique ivory buckles for the next prize.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:35:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Vacation

  I walk from one end of the pyramid to another (occasionally wondering
when somebody will show up and help me get the door open).  I take things
off shelves and throw them in bags.  I take bags and throw them on shelves.
I pack a bag of laundry.  I pack provisions.  Sure that I have all I will
need, I start bringing things down to the bombshelter.

  Ten flights of stairs later, I spot the cat (pun intended) playing with
a small red-and-blue matchbox.  I start swinging the laundry bag at it,
and the cat hastily departs.  I can't stop now: I heave it into the corner
of the room, boot the computer, and watch the matchbox.

  It does nothing.

  I open it.

  Phoebe is hiding in the corner, so I tell her: "It's OK, they're not
here yet."
  Phoebe peers out.  "Cement... cats... that horrible startup bong...
relatives..."
  This has gone far enough.  "This has gone far enough," I say.  "It's
been two messages since you've given any real wisdom.  Snap out of it."
  "Wisdom... wisdom... OH!  Beware of guests bearing gifts."
  "I already knew... oh, never mind.  Soda?"
  "Yes, please."
  So I got a funnel and filled a thimble with Sprite (up 10 flights...
down 10 flights... puff... pant... not EVERYTHING packed...).  I gently
set it down next to what I thought was Phoebe's matchbox, but it turned
out to be just part of my emergency supplies.  I wonder if this is the
shortest visit from Phoebe on record?  Probably not, though...

  I make two more trips, then, out of breath, I slap a sign on my
mailbox (very carefully NOT on the bombshelter door) and slam the
door.  The sign reads:

  "On vacation.  Will be back [spinny dial set to January 5th, 1998]"

  ... I enact it.

___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______
<[email-masked]><[email-masked]> http://users.bergen.org/~dankna
Visit ftp://ftp.gmd.de/if-archive/ and find out about text adventures!
If you don't have anything to say, get off the soapbox.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:01:11 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka:  the Church of banna

> I am founding the Church of banna.  The members of the Church of banna
> are:  rufus (who is the founder); Slakko, a priest;  The Gingham Wearer, a
> priest; and Red Barn, also a priest.

Whatever happened to normal Church followers?  Join the Church of Azpiazu,
where we won't force you to become a Priest!

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Roxy Music:Avalon
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
And the needers all insist upon it.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:34:10 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 497 (Alfvaen)

> CFJ 497 has been assigned to Alfvaen.

I accept judgement on this CFJ.  I was actually just trying to buy myself
some time.  You know, maybe the appeal judgement on CFJ 495 will go through
in time.  Also, I'll have some time after I come back from Christmas
vacation.  (I'll be gone from tomorrow, the 23rd, through to the 26th...)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Peter Gabriel:Sledgehammer
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
Just keep examining every low bid quoted for zinc etchings.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:34:18 -0800
From: **Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 499 (two-star)

Malenkai wrote:
> 
> CFJ 499 has been assigned to two-star.
> 

I accept this cfj.
**two-star

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 12:43:18 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Big White Gazette, Bumper Edition

The Big White Gazette
"Wasting Bandwidth since before most of you whippersnappers even joined
the game"

DEAD GUY MAKES GOOD

Back in September, while the editorial offices of the Gazette were in
disarray(we were moving), we received a message from Mr. Lunatic
Fringe, well-known Undead and Zombie.

> Alfvaen, I might have a scoop for the Big White Gazzette if you are
> interested.  I just sold a picture-book manuscript to a publisher.  If you
> are interested in running "DEAD GUY MAKES GOOD" or something, you are
> welcome to print the text (it will be 8 months before I even see dummies
> with the illustration) of my story in the BWG.

>Be the first on you[sic] block to read "Hot Dogs Delicious" soon to be a
>picture book by Phil Ackley, reprinted here in it's[sic] entirety.

HOT DOGS DELICIOUS
by Phil Ackley
 
Grandma used to be a school lunch lady with a scary striped uniform and a
splintered wooden spoon.  When she retired they made her give back the
uniform. She was supposed to turn in her School Cookbook too, but when I
rummaged through her kitchen once I saw it hidden under the sink.
 
The book was old and caked with tomato sauce, grease, and lima bean
squishies. "Warning!" read the first page , "Recipes contained herein may
be unsuitable for human consumption.  Serve only to unsuspecting students."
I know because I picked the lock holding the book closed.
 
Boy, am I sorry I snooped. On the second page was a recipe for
 
Cream of Sour Cream
 
1 cup of feta cheese
3 tablespoons of dijon mustard.
1 cup of skim milk
1 small platypus
2 pounds of Ore-Ida® French Fries
1 pounds of beets
1 loaf of bread
3 sesame sticks
1 vat of sour cream
1 dash of fresh oregano (may substitute stale)
1 pinch of parsley
 
Pour vat of sour cream into kettle. Cut platypus into bite-sized cubes and
stir into  sour cream. Dump french fries in mixture.  Place sesame sticks,
milk, feta cheese, bread, and mustard on floor.  Stamp with bare feet until
lumpy.  Scrape up paste, and stir into sour cream.  Sprinkle with oregano.
Boil for 26 minutes at high heat. Garnish with parsley.
 
Serves 142.
 
I think that's what we eat on Mondays-- except they always call it "Special
Stew".  On Tuesday they feed us
 
Fried Green Lettuce
 
1 head of lettuce
2 carrots
1 jar of honey
1 tree (hardwood)
1 teaspoon brown sugar
1 tree toad
 
Cut and  clean tree. Place in bowl.  Chop carrots and mix in bowl. Dip frog
in honey, slice, and mix in bowl.  Tear lettuce.  Sprinkle with sugar. Fry
for thirteen minutes. Toss into bowl.
 
Serves 1.
 
 "Fresh Tossed Salad".
 
Wednesday, pizza day, is my friend Meagan's favorite.  Wait till she finds
out she is eating
 
Delicious Left Handed Flea Bars
 
1 slice of sharp cheddar cheese
2 newts off the root of a banyan tree
1 pinch of iodized salt
1 family of left handed fleas
5 tablespoons of oregano
1 frisbee
1 squirt of ketchup
 
Squirt ketchup into frisbee and spread evenly. Garnish with cheddar cheese.
Slice and apply newts on a root of a banyan tree, using special care to
slice the newts lengthwise. Add fleas for texture. Sprinkle on oregano and
salt. Bake for 91 minutes at 55 degrees.
 
Serves 4.
 
I'm not even going to mention what they serve on Thursday because I think
if I do someone might come to haul my grandma away.  Let me tell you
something, though:  Those little white things in the "meat loaf" aren't
onions.
 
Friday we eat in the classroom while the teacher reads to us.  I never
noticed until I found the cookbook, but Mrs. Barnabas never eats hot lunch.
 
Bread Souffle
 
5 loaves of bread (wheat)
2 shiny lobsters
2 fatty hamburgers
1 package white rice
4 ounces green cheese
12 green eggs
1 ham
2 cups lasagna noodles
2 cups pink lemonade.
3 jars of honey
9 pounds of mustard
1 bay leaf
1 pound butter
 
Place hamburger , lobsters and rice in blender. Frappé.  Pour resultant goo
into mixing bowl. Stir in white rice, noodles, and lemonade. Place on low
heat and let simmer. Mix ham, honey, mustard and eggs in blender.
Refrigerate. Carefully add hot goo to cold goo.  Bake for 6 days at 122
degrees.  Serve bread and butter to students while baking proceeds.
 
Serves 103.
 
Last night my Grandma called mom and invited us to eat with her on
Thursday. I love my Grandma--even more now that she doesn't wear that scary
striped uniform around--but I don't care what mom and dad say, I'm not
going to her house for dinner.
 
Especially on a Thursday.

OTHER NOTES

Speaking of selling stories, Alfvaen, editor of the Big White Gazette, has
sold another story.  "Highway Closure", a depiction of modern folk magic
in the highway country of western Alberta, has been sold to the anthology
_Tesseracts7_, in the popular annual series of Canadian speculative fiction
compilations.  All the facts are not yet in, but guesses are that since
_Tesseracts6_ is not out yet, it will be over a year before _T7_ is out.
Still, it looks like e might be on the road to a Chrome Streak of
publications.  (Well, okay, there was one rejection in between, but
still...)

In the Fantasy Billboard contest, /dev/joe's Godel Escher Bach is doing
extremely well, still in the Top 50 in the third week.  Will /dev/joe
add yet another treasure find to eir tally?  Slakko's Slakkology is
also doing quiet well, as well as Crackfoo's CrackFoo label.  Sonic Vynd
is still in the running, of course; Ultima Records has been inactive
lately, but if Godel Escher Bach falters in its fourth week, Balsamic
Dragon may still have time to get back into the game.

In response to the recurring clamour for more treasure clues, Alfvaen
notes only that e has tried to insert clues into what Malenkai describes
as "must-describe harf" wherever possible.  Of course, there are
intermixed clues for three different treasures, but that's unavoidable.
As Malenkai had also noted, some of the taglines Alfvaen has recently
added are also an oblique clue to one of the treasures, though this was
not really intentional.  (And other taglines are also slightly helpful
as well, though in an even more indirect manner than the oblique ones.)

Oh, yeah, the Big White Gazette also offers whatever greetings may be
appropriate in this time when a lot of people are celebrating stuff.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Siouxsie & The Banshees:Dear Prudence
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
"Ballcocks, governor.  Your ballcocks're gone."

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:16:41 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Bond Dividends, December 22, 1997

The last bond cycle of 1997, and, hopefully, the last bond cycle ever
(Fortnightly Dividends will be much easier to calculate):

Score changes used for bond cycle calculation:
- ----------------------------------------------
Alfvaen: 72
Antimatter: 0
Archie Leach: 56
Balsamic Dragon: 70
breadbox: 10
Calvin N Hobbes: 16
Crackfoo: 1
/dev/joe: 43
else...if: 61
Fortunato: 34
K 2: 54
Karma: 0
Malenkai: 42
Michael Wren: 38
mr cwm: -14
Niccolo Flychuck: -34
norpan: 37
Red Barn: 33
Rex Mundi: -4
Robert Sevin: 0
rufus: 78
Slakko: 15
The Gingham Wearer: 65
ThinMan: 48
two-star: 22
Voting Gnome: 2
Vynd: -9
 
Bond Dividends
- --------------
Alfvaen: 50.68  -->  69*72 + 10*10
Antimatter: 0.0  -->  95*0
Archie Leach: 56.0  -->  100*56
Balsamic Dragon: 70.0  -->  100*70
breadbox: 8.2  -->  82*10
Calvin N Hobbes: 16.0  -->  100*16
Crackfoo: -4.8  -->  30*-34/2 + 30*1
/dev/joe: 44.49  -->  90*43 + 2*42 + 15*1 + 10*48
else...if: 61.0  -->  100*61
Fortunato: 34.0  -->  100*34
Karma: 0.0  -->  100*0
K 2: 54.0  -->  100*54
Malenkai: 33.18  -->  79*42
Michael Wren: 38.0  -->  100*38
mr cwm: -5.9  -->  2*10 + 94*-14/2 + 5*0 + 1*48
Niccolo Flychuck: 1.55  -->  5*72 + 5*10 + 5*43 + 5*42 + 50*-34/2 + 5*33 + 5*0 + 5*1
norpan: 37.0  -->  100*37
Red Barn: 29.7  -->  90*33
Robert Sevin: 0.33  -->  1*42 + 85*0 + 2*-9/2
rufus: 78.0  -->  100*78
Slakko: 15.0  -->  100*15
The Gingham Wearer: 65.0  -->  100*65
ThinMan: 50.52  -->  5*72 + 10*42 + 89*48
two-star: 22.21  -->  5*0 + 1*43 + 99*22
Vynd: -4.41  -->  98*-9/2
Chaos: 6.38  -->  11*72 + 2*43 + 2*42 + 5*-14/2 + 17*-34/2
fnord: 1.11  -->  1*10 + 2*43 + 1*-14/2 + 1*0 + 1*22
Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 0.41  -->  1*42 + 3*-34/2 + 50*1
Odo on the Wormhole: 7.2  -->  10*72
RexBank: -2.0  -->  100*-4/2

#award Alfvaen: 51 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Archie Leach: 56 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Balsamic Dragon: 70 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award breadbox: 9 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Calvin N Hobbes: 16 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Crackfoo: -5 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award /dev/joe: 45 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award else...if: 61 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Fortunato: 34 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award K 2: 54 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Malenkai: 34 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Michael Wren: 38 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award mr cwm: -6 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Niccolo Flychuck: 2 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award norpan: 37 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Red Barn: 30 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Robert Sevin: 1 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award rufus: 78 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Slakko: 15 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award The Gingham Wearer: 65 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award ThinMan: 51 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award two-star: 23 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Vynd: -5 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Chaos: 7 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award fnord: 2 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 1 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award Odo on the Wormhole: 8 A$ : dividend Dec 22
#award RexBank: -2 A$ : dividend Dec 22

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Depeche Mode:A Question of Lust
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
Let he who has taken the plunge remember to return it by Tuesday.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:43:15 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Re: the recent BWG issue

The Big White Gazette published:
> HOT DOGS DELICIOUS
> by Phil Ackley

Hmm, I seem to remember having seen this posted here before...

> In the Fantasy Billboard contest, /dev/joe's Godel Escher Bach is doing
> extremely well, still in the Top 50 in the third week. 

Wow, I hadn't seen this yet.  After the 2nd week, this one was out of the
top 50, but it's back now with a real chance of actually winning the
treasure.  My entry from last week is also doing well, at 65th place
after 1 week.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 18:11:47 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Potato + Phoebe

The Gingham Wearer has found both Phoebe and the Magic
Potato.  So there Vynd :)-

Malenkai
making his last rolls with those dice

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 18:15:05 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 484 (Niccolo Flychuck)

Balsamic Dragon did not deliver a verdict in the
thread where she accepted.  It has been reassigned to
Niccolo.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgment 484
  Subject: Trinkets
Initiator: Malenkai
Submitted: 97-12-11 9:09
    Judge: Calvin N Hobbes (deadbeat)
2nd Judge: Balsamic Dragon (deadbeat)
3rd Judge: Niccolo Flychuck (selected 97-12-22 18:14)
Judgement: 

Statement:

Trinkets with a value of negative A$ may not be created.

Malenkai's Reasoning:

I'll write even less for Slakko to critique this time :)

I don't know, a couple people have argued that it was not
possible, we should at least find out.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 18:21:15 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Retractions

I retract proposal 2525
I retract proposal 2539

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 18:49:17 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: jettisoning some stuff

I go to the museum and donate the Onyx Lion.
I donate Mr. Lunatic Fringe's Treasure Toga #4 to the treasury.
I go to Vulcan headquarters

I offer the following entities to Vulcan:

 Otzma Card Untouch Me
 Otzma Card Share my Expenses
 Otzma Card Tactical Retreat
 Otzma Card Go Fish
 Pulse Laser
 Silver Spaceship
 Spell Book of Chorg
 Gravitational Monopole
 Vending Machine
 Scroll of Crumble
 1 swingpoint
 20 BPVoting Gnome
 52 A$
 
I suggest that Vulcan accept these entities.
I suggest that Vulcan buy 2 pointy ears.

I ask the financier why I have 2 extra heads
and not a nomic.

I resign as expert in the following areas:

Expert in Proposals and Rule Changes
Expert in the Judicial System
Expert in Offices
Expert in Financial Matters, including Entities

I resign as treasure-harfer.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 23:34:41 -0000
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Synod Stuff

> Some time ago, Slakko wrote:
> 
> > As Delegate of Religious Nutcase to the Synod, I suggest that the Synod
> > convert its two trinkets, Democracy? and Demoncracy! into cash.
> > I vote in favour of this suggestion.
> 
> > Therefore, there are more votes in favour of this suggestion than
against
> > it, and so the Synod is considered to support this action.
> 
> > As Delegate of Religious Nutcase to the Synod, I suggest that the Synod
> > gift all its A$ to the Organization called Religious Nutcase.  
> > I vote in favour of this suggestion.
> 
> > Therefore, there are more votes in favour of this suggestion than
against
> > it, and so the Synod is considered to support this action.
> 
> > As a member of Religious Nutcase, I suggest that it gift an amount of
A$
> > equal to half its balance less A$55 to Balsamic Dragon, and that it
> > simultaneously gift an amount of A$ equal to half its balance plus A$55
to
> > Slakko, thereby gifting away all of its A$.  I support this suggestion.
> 
> I believe that Slakko is fundamentally correct in his statements here,
> but the fact that the Yor-Delegate is the one who acts on behalf of the
> Synod means, I think, that this does not occur until the Yor-Delegate
> announces it.  And it is entirely possible that by that time the Synod
> may no longer support it.  :-)
> 
I denounce this action.

Rex Mundi, RexBank delegate.

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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 00:00:59 -0000
From: "Gavin M. Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : Synod

> If the Synod currently has at least 1A$ then I suggest that the Synod
take
> the following Actions
> 
> 
> Transfer A$100 to RexBank
> Transfer all A$ it owns and all Trinkets it owns to the Church of Odo
> on the WormHole
> 
> I vote for this action, there are more votes for this action than there
> are for any other decision - These transfer take place.
> 
> Niccolo Flychuck
> Founder and Delegate of the Church of Odo on the WormHole
> Yor-Delegate
> etc.
> 
I approve of this.

Rex Mundi, RexBank delegate.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:41:08 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Synod Stuff

> > I believe that Slakko is fundamentally correct in his statements here,
> > but the fact that the Yor-Delegate is the one who acts on behalf of the
> > Synod means, I think, that this does not occur until the Yor-Delegate
> > announces it.  And it is entirely possible that by that time the Synod
> > may no longer support it.  :-)

> I denounce this action.

> Rex Mundi, RexBank delegate.

And it's not that simple, either.  You are voting against it, but you
can't block the action entirely like you can with a normal Org...

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:44:22 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: jettisoning some stuff

> I suggest that Vulcan buy 2 pointy ears.

I don't believe that Vulcan can do that, but that may depend
on the result of the org-name-changing CFJ...

> I ask the financier why I have 2 extra heads
> and not a nomic.

Because I haven't gotten around to doing the nameless nomic thing
yet.  I have to go look at that proposal again and figure out if
Red Barn got a nomic or not.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Enya:The Memory of Trees
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer a friend.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 18:46:20 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: jettisoning some stuff

Malenkai wrote:
> I offer the following entities to Vulcan:
> 
>  Otzma Card Untouch Me
>  Otzma Card Share my Expenses
>  Otzma Card Tactical Retreat
>  Otzma Card Go Fish
>  Pulse Laser
>  Silver Spaceship
>  Spell Book of Chorg
>  Gravitational Monopole
>  Vending Machine
>  Scroll of Crumble
>  1 swingpoint
>  20 BPVoting Gnome
>  52 A$
>  
> I suggest that Vulcan accept these entities.
> I suggest that Vulcan buy 2 pointy ears.

I approve of these suggestions.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:46:11 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Treasure-Harfer

I am calling a nomination for the optional Functional Office of
Treasure-Harfer.  Reply to volunteer.  See Rule 429 for details
of the office, and also be prepared to put up the appropriate
web pages.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Enya:The Memory of Trees
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
Asking whether machines can think is like asking whether submarines can swim.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:49:26 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Re: the recent BWG issue

> The Big White Gazette published:
> > HOT DOGS DELICIOUS
> > by Phil Ackley

> Hmm, I seem to remember having seen this posted here before...

I don't recall seeing it...I could, of course, be wrong.

In any case, if it was indeed previously posted here, then I apologize
for wasting bandwidth, although I'm still not up to the level of a
ThinMan/Niccolo Flychuck debate or anything.  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Enya:The Memory of Trees
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
Throw another leg on the fire.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:20:12 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Nomics

Okay, here is how I believe the nomic situation is right now.

Internomic is an entity which exists in the Treasury.  There is also a
nomic(a nameless, tradeable entity)in the Treasury for each other nomic
which is a member of Internomic.  (Actually, looking at the Rule, it
seems to be ambiguous whether or not they are "nomics" or "member nomics".)

The nomics that are gained by the Beldin's Pants rule, on the other hand,
are entirely different entities, nameless entities which may or may not
be tradeable depending on whether or not you think that Rule 419.2 talks
about "nomics" or "member nomics".  I'll consider them to be "nomics" for
now...Proposal in the works, though.

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Current Album--Mark Korven:This Must Be The Place
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
With fronds like you, who needs anemones?

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:33:55 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Instance Limit

It appears that Malenkai currently owns eight Otzma cards, although
the limit for ownership of Otzma cards is six.  E must destroy two
of eir Otzma cards.  (I'm not sure if it's allowable to transfer the
surplus to another player...)

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Mark Korven:This Must Be The Place
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
My postilion has been struck by lightning.

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:17:11 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: acka : Synod

> If the Synod currently has at least 1A$ then I suggest that the Synod take
> the following Actions

> Transfer A$100 to RexBank
> Transfer all A$ it owns and all Trinkets it owns to the Church of Odo
> on the WormHole

> I vote for this action, there are more votes for this action than there
> are for any other decision - These transfer take place.

I consider these actions to have succeeded, because NF is Yor-Delegate
and hence may decree the Synod act according to its decisions.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Mark Korven:This Must Be The Place
Current Book--Fred Saberhagen:The Third Book of Swords
This article has no next sibling.

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