Subject: ackanomic digest V2 #427
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ackanomic digest       Friday, December 19 1997       Volume 02 : Number 427

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:03:59 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Next step

> I proxy my support to Shell#1
> I proxy my support to Shell#2
> I proxy my support to Shell#3
> I proxy my support to Shell#4
> I proxy my support to Shell#5
> I proxy my support to Shell#6
> I proxy my support to Shell#7
> I proxy my support to Shell#8
> I proxy my support to Shell#9
> I proxy my support to Shell#10

> I suggest that Shell#1 transfer its Scroll of Crumble to me
> I suggest that Shell#2 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me
> I suggest that Shell#3 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me
> I suggest that Shell#4 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me
> I suggest that Shell#5 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me
> I suggest that Shell#6 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me
> I suggest that Shell#7 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me
> I suggest that Shell#8 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me
> I suggest that Shell#9 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me
> I suggest that Shell#10 transfer its Automatic Sculpture to me

But do you accept these transfers?  I don't believe you do.  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--The Cardigans:Lovefool
Current Book--Gordon Korman:The Chicken Doesn't Skate
They may eat lamb or stroke each other.

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:38:45 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka : synod actions

On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Duncan Richer wrote:

> 
> Well thanks to you turning them into Orgs from Institutions, that's
> exactly what both of them have to do.
> > 
> > In my opinion, I acted according to a Synod decision - if you believe
> > differently, I think you should invoke a CFJ.
> 
> See you in court, chummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmp. ["The Simpsons"]
> 
I suggest we worry about the Senate later, and for now, fight over the
spoils of the Synod like two civilised entities.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:46:10 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka : synod actions

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Uri Bruck wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Duncan Richer wrote:
> > 
> > See you in court, chummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmp. ["The Simpsons"]
> > 
> I suggest we worry about the Senate later, and for now, fight over the
> spoils of the Synod like two civilised entities.

Fine by me.  I just couldn't resist a good Simpsons quote.

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:46:42 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

> And as to the flatness or otherwise of the earth.

  I am calling a witchunt against Slakko.

___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______
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Some things aren't self-referential.

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:23:05 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, A.K.A. TheWiz wrote:

> > And as to the flatness or otherwise of the earth.
> 
>   I am calling a witchunt against Slakko.

I never said that the earth was not flat.  I said that some may doubt it.
I do not, and I claim that this witchhunt is a complete fabrication.

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:30:04 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

> > > And as to the flatness or otherwise of the earth.
> > 
> >   I am calling a witchunt against Slakko.
> 
> I never said that the earth was not flat.  I said that some may doubt
it.
> I do not, and I claim that this witchhunt is a complete fabrication.

You never said the Earth is not flat? Why not? Everyone knows that it
isn't! Sheesh, how many times do I have to tell you? THE EARTH IS
ROUND!

The Gingham Wearer.

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:29:11 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Come to IRC before 4:30!

  The server is, reminder, wilma.che.utexas.edu, port 9942.

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Absolute knowledge does not constitute proof.

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:52:17 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, The Gingham Wearer wrote:

> > > > And as to the flatness or otherwise of the earth.
> > > 
> > >   I am calling a witchunt against Slakko.
> > 
> > I never said that the earth was not flat.  I said that some may doubt
> it.
> > I do not, and I claim that this witchhunt is a complete fabrication.
> 
> You never said the Earth is not flat? Why not? Everyone knows that it
> isn't! Sheesh, how many times do I have to tell you? THE EARTH IS
> ROUND!

The Earth is not round.  It ain't flat either, it is shaped like a banna,
of course!

rufus
> 
> 
> The Gingham Wearer.
> 

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:55:36 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, David Scheidt wrote:

> The Earth is not round.  It ain't flat either, it is shaped like a banna,
> of course!

I hereby call a Witchhunt against rufus for this heretical remark.

BURN THE WITCH!

Yours,
Slakko

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:55:04 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

> 
> The Earth is not round.  It ain't flat either, it is shaped like a banna,
> of course!
> 
> rufus
> > 

What's a banna?

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:57:24 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

> What's a banna?

  You may not be aware that even quoted text can count...
  I am calling a witchhunt on Balsamic Dragon.

___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______
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It's still paranoia, even if they really are out to get you.

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:14:18 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Duncan Richer wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, A.K.A. TheWiz wrote:
> 
> > > And as to the flatness or otherwise of the earth.
> > 
> >   I am calling a witchunt against Slakko.
> 
> I never said that the earth was not flat.  I said that some may doubt it.
> I do not, and I claim that this witchhunt is a complete fabrication.
> 

Oh man, he shouldn't have said that...  He's already half-way to the
barbeque now.

> 
> 
> --
> Duncan "" Richer aka
> Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
> Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

                                  - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:15:24 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, A.K.A. TheWiz wrote:

> > What's a banna?
> 
>   You may not be aware that even quoted text can count...
>   I am calling a witchhunt on Balsamic Dragon.

Not with this flimsy evidence.  I believe that you have to quote the
heretical passages to start a Witchhunt.  As far as I know, the question
"What's a banna?" is not heretical.

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:11:31 -0800
From: Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

A.K.A. TheWiz wrote:
> 
> > What's a banna?
> 
>   You may not be aware that even quoted text can count...
>   I am calling a witchhunt on Balsamic Dragon.

Surely, ignorance of the nature of banna is not heresy, although it may
reveal a certain lack of sophistication...

**two-star

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:16:42 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, A.K.A. TheWiz wrote:

> > What's a banna?
> 
>   You may not be aware that even quoted text can count...
>   I am calling a witchhunt on Balsamic Dragon.
> 

Quoted text?  Heck, you don't even have to MENTION the Earth, flatness,
roundness, or anything else to have a witchhunt called on you.  All you
have to do is send a public message.  It is up to us, the voters, to
decide if it is worthy of a burning, and if Red Barn thinks so, thats good
enough for me!

                                     - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:19:15 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Vivian Norwood wrote:

> 
> > 
> > The Earth is not round.  It ain't flat either, it is shaped like a banna,
> > of course!
> > 
> > rufus
> > > 
> 
> What's a banna?

an earth shaped object of course.

sorry I cant type.  banana is what meant.  
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:24:19 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:

> Quoted text?  Heck, you don't even have to MENTION the Earth, flatness,
> roundness, or anything else to have a witchhunt called on you.  All you
> have to do is send a public message.  It is up to us, the voters, to
> decide if it is worthy of a burning, and if Red Barn thinks so, thats good
> enough for me!

Nice try, o Evil Overlord!  But your powers are no match for my special
ability!  Yes, I'm READING the RULESET!

>If a Player publicly refers to the Earth being round any other Player may
>start a Witchhunt by sending a public message that names the alleged
>witch, quotes his or her allegedly heretical message, and calls for a
>Witchhunt, provided a Witchhunt is not already in progress against that
>player, and provided there are less than 5 Witchhunts in progress. 

So I can CFJ this around for ages.  I just hope the SC agrees with me on
this one.

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:38:53 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: church of banna

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Alexandre Muniz wrote:

> A.K.A. TheWiz wrote:
> > 
> > > What's a banna?
> > 
> >   You may not be aware that even quoted text can count...
> >   I am calling a witchhunt on Balsamic Dragon.
> 
> Surely, ignorance of the nature of banna is not heresy, although it may
> reveal a certain lack of sophistication...

I intend to found the church of banna.  

> 
> **two-star
> 

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:43:03 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: church of banna

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, David Scheidt wrote:

> I intend to found the church of banna.  

I intend to become a Follower of the Church of banna.

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:04:39 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2535

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Duncan Richer wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, David Scheidt wrote:
> 
> > The Earth is not round.  It ain't flat either, it is shaped like a banna,
> > of course!
> 
> I hereby call a Witchhunt against rufus for this heretical remark.

I hereby retract my call for a Witchhunt against rufus, as it was not
well-formed.

Yours,

Slakko

- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:28:33 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: akca: my house

'tis green.  It has a distinct lack of windows.  Like so many of acka
buildings, it is much larger on the inside than would be expected from the
outside.  Nevertheless, there is not much space to move around in, as
there are automobile parts (despite there being no cars in acka) and
random bits of obsolete computer hardware.  There is one small room, the
shrine of banna, which contains a remarkably accurate scale model of the
world.  As would be expected, it is shaped like a banana.  
it is hereafter to be known as "rufus's house of bits, discount junk and
coffee."  

rufus

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:32:51 -0000
From: "The Gingham Wearer" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: church of banna

> From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>

> I intend to found the church of banna.  

I intend to become a follower of this church.

The Gingham Wearer (who knows that the earth is round, flat,
hemispherical, banana shaped, conical, supported on the backs of four
elephants riding on the back of a turtle and above all else banna
shaped (which encompasses all of the above, but I thought I'd mention
it for the unenlightened) if only it might mean I could become
enlightened and burned as an heretic (not necessarily in that order)).

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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:49:44 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : Synod

If the Synod currently has at least 1A$ then I suggest that the Synod take
the following Actions

Transfer A$100 to RexBank
Transfer all A$ it owns and all Trinkets it owns to the Church of Odo
on the WormHole

I vote for this action, there are more votes for this action than there
are for any other decision - These transfer take place.

Niccolo Flychuck
Founder and Delegate of the Church of Odo on the WormHole
Yor-Delegate
etc.

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:07:03 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Synod

Niccolo, I know exactly the point of your Synod thingamebob.  It's because
I didn't have enough money if I successfully guarded that proposal which I
was trying to, to found the organization which would have "stolen" all
your precious Synod money.

I see that you have accepted my initial organizational argument, and are
now attempting to nitpick your way around my supposedly well-timed scam.

I have an interesting intepretation of the State of Crisis Resolution
Document which may ruin this.

> The game state is adjusted, retroactively if necessary,
> as if proposal 2439 was not accepted.

If proposal 2439 had not been accepted, then I would not have had the
opportunity to scam, and hence I would not been so free with my money as
to guard a proposal.  
I would never have guarded the proposal in the situation where 2439 had
not been accepted, and hence when the gamestate was retroactively adjusted
I never guarded the proposal.

Ain't flow on effects wonderful? :-)

And, yes, I know this opens a can of worms, but I worked hard for that
scam, I'm low on cash as it is, and it is barely A$200 I'm making on this.
- --
Duncan "" Richer aka
Duncan C. Richer - aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother - Now Really Lost!
Queens' College -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory -- Cambridge University

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:07:12 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Phoebe

Very faintly, a sound begins to make itself heard.  Not by everyone, but a
certain frequency of sound detectable only by dragon's ears....

Quickly I follow the sound, wandering through the streets of acka, until I
come to K2's house.  The sound is coming from its base.

As I lean over, pushing the grass aside, I see a small chink of concrete
push itself to the side and fall over.  Then, out of a small hole, which
looks as if it goes all the way into the concrete block, a matchbox pops
out.  After it follows Phoebe hereself.  

Motioning me to lean in, she takes a deep breath.  I prepare in
anticipation of hearing the truth spoken once more.  She speaks:

"don't ever, EVER, do that again."  

With that, she disappears in a puff of black smoke, as I stand confused
wondering if there was anything else...

Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:26:50 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Guarding

> 
> (If so, this also means that Balsamic Dragon gets her A$150 back,
> since she later said she was Guarding Proposal 2475 if and only if it
> wasn't already Guarded.)
> 
> breadbox
> 

Okay, here's the deal.  I have no idea now how much money I have, but I
really want to build myself a tower before the tornado hits.  So.  If I
have the funds to do so, I am building a tower to attach to my home.  It is
35 yards high (or the minimum number of yards high if my memory fails me.) 
I am then going into my basement.  I will be staying there until Monday.

The description of my tower is as follows:

This tower is really just part of the mountain in which Balsamic Dragon's
cave is located.  The mountain is just bigger than you remembered it.

Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:42:09 -0500 (EST)
From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Guarding

On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Vivian Norwood wrote:

> Okay, here's the deal.  I have no idea now how much money I have, but I
> really want to build myself a tower before the tornado hits.  So.  If I
> have the funds to do so, I am building a tower to attach to my home.  It is
> 35 yards high (or the minimum number of yards high if my memory fails me.) 
> I am then going into my basement.  I will be staying there until Monday.

Towers have heights specified in meters.  I don't know if that means this
fails.  or what.

rufus

> 
> The description of my tower is as follows:
> 
> This tower is really just part of the mountain in which Balsamic Dragon's
> cave is located.  The mountain is just bigger than you remembered it.
> 
> Balsamic Dragon
> 

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:03:32 -0500
From: Towsner <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Next step

>But do you accept these transfers?  I don't believe you do.  :-)
	Fair enough.
	I accept the transfer of a Scroll of Crumble from Shell#1
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#2
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#3
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#4
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#5
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#6
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#7
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#8
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#9
	I accept the transfer of an Automatic Sculpture from Shell#10

	I bury 9 Automatic Sculptures in a new treasure.  Surprise!
Two-Star has found my treasure.  The map was:
	Whoever has the round tuit shall find this treasure.

- --
Omnium pro iure, ius pro omnio

- -Henry Towsner

	<[email-masked]>

	"I think the true test of a genius is the ability to see the
follies of one's own times.  The ability to change one's own times is the
true test of a leader.  And the ability to do both is the true test of a
visionary who will never be elected."
	-Marilyn vos Savant

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:15:32 CST
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: ackanomic digest V2 #426

Fellow Ackanomicians,  I know that I have not been active for quite some
time,  but I've been very busy in RL matters for some months,  and it's
only getting worse.  I thought I would be able to ease off after a while
and return to this wonderful world,  but it is not to be.

With a heavy heart,  I must withdraw from Ackanomia,  even as an
observer.  I hereby bequeath all my tradeable possessions to my moronic
twin Malenkai.  I also request to be removed from all Ackanomic lists, 
to wit:  the main,  research,  voting (a good joke there) and games. 
Farewell,  and may the Golden Frog smile on you all.

Voting Gnome

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