Subject: ackanomic digest V2 #365
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ackanomic digest      Thursday, November 13 1997      Volume 02 : Number 365

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:35:13 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2364

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Malenkai wrote:

> > Proposal 2364
> > Weighty Matters to Discuss
> 
> > Append the following text, delinated by FREUNLEVEN, to Rule 1230.3:
> > FREUNLEVEN
> > The preceding sections of this rule may be amended as follows:
> > The Chess-Umpire may mail to the acka-chess mailing list a Suggested
> > Reweighting Scheme.  If no Swinger objects to this Suggested Reweighting
> > Scheme within 7 Days of its submission to the list, then this rule will be
> > amended accordingly to accomodate the Suggested Reweighting Scheme.
> 
> This would allow a minority of players to force a change to the rules.
> We've seen that done and attempted a few times before ... :-)

Okay. Retractaroonied.

I HEREBY RETRACT PROPOSAL 2364.

Fairly unambiguous, huh? :-)

Now. (Before any of you ask, I joined on October 25).

<RANT>
Each time I try to come up with something designed to make Ackalife just
that little bit easier it gets voted down!  I dunno, perhaps you're just
all out to get us newbies or something.  You offer us the ruleset, we read
through it, we read through again, but then of course there is all this
"game custom" we need to know about.  You're keeping that from us!  I want
my terabyte of email archive to sort through so I know exactly what every
single one of you ever thought when you were playing this game before.
It's not fair I tells ya!  How can a guy keep track when the rules he's
been sworn to uphold keep changing (and they do to - ask Niccolo about
the Party Chess amendments).
</RANT>

Can I have my retraction point back please?

A CFJ on French-Scotsman Point Application - Coming Soon!
- --
Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:19:54 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: A Duel!

As Vynd's second, I hereby relay the following response to Alfvaen's
challenge:

>"I see that the Evil Overlords of Acka(retired) are still persisting in
>their efforts to inflame the hearts of Ackanomians against the Orange
>Menace.  As the President it may be my Duty to "marshal the forces of
>Acka against the Orange Menace at home or abroad", but I can't help but
>wonder about who the Orange Menace is really a Menace to... In
>retrospect, it seems to me that if Rule 390 is a Duty that I must bear
>to be President, perhaps it is time to find another to take up the 
>yoke.  But I would rather fight the battle on other grounds.  Choose
>your weapons, knave!"

Slander!  Foul, pernicious slander!  How can anyone question the threat
the Orange Menace poses not only to each and every one of us, but to the
generations to come?  The very air reeks of Orange, the Orange haze
obscures our vision and coats everything with a vile film.  Instead, our
President is trying to deflect attention away from his inability to deal
with the Menace by once again attacking the Evil Overlords of Ackanomic.
Truly this is a reprehensible strategm, one I would have though beneath
our leader.  The Evil Overlords never hurt anyone in Acka, indeed, the
benefits of our reign are manifest!  Who else could have reunified half
the Earth?  Was it the Evil Overlords who are responsible for detaching
the other half, or a member of the so called Rebellion?  While it may be
true that we retired Overlords have taken the lead against the Orange
Menace, is that so terrible?  Clearly something must be done.  Clearly
our nominal leader, the man who has had the bareface audacity to
challenge ME to a Duel over MY stance against what may be the greatest
force of pure concentrated evil Acka has ever seen, was not getting the
job done.  So yes, I may have come to the fore, to lead our struggle,
but is that so wrong?  In any event, I look forward to the time after
this Duel, when my challenger lies bloody and battered on the ground.  I
wonder, what color might we find that blood to be... ?

Vynd selects Double Crash as the contest.  Get thee to the field!

ThinMan
Vynd's second

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:21:22 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Harfmeister

I thought I had declared a proposal harfy a while ago, and thus lost the
office.  Or do you only become harfmeister if your harfy proposal was
passed?

Balsamic Dragon

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> From: Aaron V. Humphrey <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]'
> Subject: Acka: Harfmeister
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 5:25 PM
> 
> 
> I thought that it didn't matter very much that Balsamic Dragon had
> happened to return a day or two later than expected, but I was just
> looking at Rule 1112, wherein it says that if ever the Harfmeister
> is "On Ice", the Speaker gets the title.  So it looks like Malenkai
> became the Harfmeister a few weeks ago...
> 
> 
> --
> --Alfvaen (Web page:http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/)
> Song In My Head--They Might Be Giants:Dead
> Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
> Oho!  Lies the wind in that quarter?
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:25:00 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Harfmeister

Balsamic Dragon wrote:

> I thought I had declared a proposal harfy a while ago, and thus lost
> the
> office.  Or do you only become harfmeister if your harfy proposal was
> passed?
> 
The Harfmeister may declare Harfy as many proposals as he or she chooses
so long as no more than three pending proposals are Harfy at the same
time.  The office shifts to the author of a Harfy proposal if and when
that proposal passes; otherwise, the Harfmeister retains the office.

ThinMan

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:49:49 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 470 (/dev/joe)

/dev/joe has been selected.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgment 470
  Subject: Retracting
Initiator: Slakko
Submitted: 97-11-13 2:38
    Judge: /dev/joe (selected 97-11-13 8:49)
Judgement: 

Statement:

Proposal 2347 was retracted.

Slakko's Reasoning:

If the wish to commit an action is considered equivalent to an action, as
the result of CFJ 447 clearly states, then surely stating that one "will
retract a proposal" is just as equivalent to stating that one "is
retracting a proposal".  Therefore Niccolo's statement that proposal 2347
"will be retracted" should have been interpreted as him saying "I am
retracting proposal 2347".

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:08:05 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Chess Piece

I hereby purchase a PartyChessPiece Demon (MV=2) for the Vulcan
Swinger's Office.  The cost is 7*2 + 1= 15 Ackadollars.

ThinMan
Vulcan

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 07:53:40 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2364

> Okay. Retractaroonied.

> I HEREBY RETRACT PROPOSAL 2364.

> Fairly unambiguous, huh? :-)

> Now. (Before any of you ask, I joined on October 25).

Okay, so that means that you are in the first three weeks of being a new
player(that ends on the 15th), so according to Rule 330 you don't lose any
points for the retraction.  As you pointed out to me previously.  :-)

So the rant you included(elided for brevity), while touching and all,
doesn't accomplish anything in particular...

> Can I have my retraction point back please?

No.

> A CFJ on French-Scotsman Point Application - Coming Soon!

I'd rather just read the book.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Pat McCurdy:Imagine A Picture
Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
The pills that I took, they made my fingers disappear

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:55:04 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2347 accepted

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Brian Raiter wrote:

> > [25 lines of quoting deleted]
> > 
> > Right. I considered this solution, and now that you mention the
> > above it seems that it was the best one after all. I'll retract the
> > above, and resubmit with this in mind.
> 
> At the time I read the "I will" in "I'll retract the above" as a
> voicing of future intent, not as a taking of present action. Thus I
> did not mark it as retracted.

I believe breadbox read my intention correctly. A couple of times in the
same week I said that  I would retract something and then posted another
message stating that I am perfomring the actual action of retraction.
I did change my mind about retracting this, so I didn't post the second
message that would have the effect. I am sorry for the ambiguity, if it is
decided that this did indeed constitute a retraction message, then I'll
have to resubmit, considering the current text of the Party Chess rules.

 > 
> If someone can show me a precedent or any other good argument that I
> interpreted this ambiguous statement wrongly, I'll treat it as
> retracted. Or you can submit a CFJ, if you feel it would be worthwhile
> to do so. Otherwise, I'm standing by the game state as I have harfed
> it. If nothing else, it *was* ambiguous.
> 
> breadbox
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:57:58 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2347 accepted

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Duncan Richer wrote:

> > 
> > If someone can show me a precedent or any other good argument that I
> > interpreted this ambiguous statement wrongly, I'll treat it as
> > retracted. Or you can submit a CFJ, if you feel it would be worthwhile
> > to do so. Otherwise, I'm standing by the game state as I have harfed
> > it. If nothing else, it *was* ambiguous.
> 
> The only "good argument" I can come up with is that another Proposal was
> submitted by Niccolo, along similar lines to this one, and
> taking into account what was "mentioned above" according to this message.
> His intent must clearly have been that 2347 was retracted, because the
> text of the second proposal (2352 I think) includes a note (which
> would not get into the original rule) noting the contribution that
> /dev/joe's suggestions made, and hence indicating that this is a
> revision of 2347.

If I recall correctly I only included in that second proposal those parts
which I intended to add, but I'll have to look up the propoal queue, as
I've been away for a week.
However, as breadbox pointed out, it is action and not intent which is
most relevant here, I attmepted to present a case for a sort of Game
Custom, at least my Game Custom in my previous post. Not a very strong
case, mind you, but a straw to hold, nonetheless.

Niccolo Flychuck

 > 
> Perhaps it would be best to ask Niccolo, when e returns, what e intended?
> - --
> Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
> Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
> "Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
> http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:04:38 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2364

On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Malenkai wrote:

> > Proposal 2364
> > Weighty Matters to Discuss
> 
> > Append the following text, delinated by FREUNLEVEN, to Rule 1230.3:
> > FREUNLEVEN
> > The preceding sections of this rule may be amended as follows:
> > The Chess-Umpire may mail to the acka-chess mailing list a Suggested
> > Reweighting Scheme.  If no Swinger objects to this Suggested Reweighting
> > Scheme within 7 Days of its submission to the list, then this rule will be
> > amended accordingly to accomodate the Suggested Reweighting Scheme.
> 
> This would allow a minority of players to force a change to the rules.
> We've seen that done and attempted a few times before ... :-)
> 
> Malenkai
> Expert in Loophole Surfing

I strongly object to this proposal, and will shortly return from Vacation
so I can vote against it.  I have a few of objections:
1. See Malenkai's objection above. 
2. The Weight Scheme is not an arbitrarily chosen formula.
3. The Weight Scheme has game effects, such as Swingpoint distribution.

Niccolo Flychuck
Party Chess Expert

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:19:38 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : deVacationing

I am returning from Vacation.
Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:57:42 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Chess Stuff

The (None Yet) party has no Swinger - just to let you know.

Who last harfed the Swingpoints?  I need to get the last set of figures to
keep the totals up to date.

Yours,
Chess-Umpire Slakko

Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:00:40 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess Piece

On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Bollinger, John C. wrote:

> 
> I hereby purchase a PartyChessPiece Demon (MV=2) for the Vulcan
> Swinger's Office.  The cost is 7*2 + 1= 15 Ackadollars.

Done.  I don't know the exact form for letting the Financier know,
but I'm sure we'll get it sorted out.
- --
Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:07:27 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2364

On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Uri Bruck wrote:

> I strongly object to this proposal, and will shortly return from Vacation
> so I can vote against it.  I have a few of objections:
> 1. See Malenkai's objection above. 
> 2. The Weight Scheme is not an arbitrarily chosen formula.
> 3. The Weight Scheme has game effects, such as Swingpoint distribution.

Yes the Weight Scheme has game effects, but Swingpoint distribution itself
would be unaffected (i.e. this has no capacity to significantly change the
number of swingpoints issued - the person with the largest weight will
still only get NoS - 1.  Besides, if no-one in Party Chess has any
objections, why should the people not playing the game worry over the
weights?

I admit that the proposal, as specified, is severely lacking - hence I
retracted it.  However, if there was a way of avoiding the loophole
surfing principles inherent, then I don't see what the problem would be
anymore.

Yours,
Chess-Umpire Slakko
- --
Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:04:22 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Upcoming proposals

Dear Ackanomians,

Those of you who suffered under the yoke of the Evil Vulcan overlordship
will still, no doubt, be appalled that their Rule 1 sits in the ruleset
with no challenge to its authority.  I have, I believe, come up with a way
to reduce its authority without actually contravening it.  This process
has been started with Proposal 2363.  Other proposals will be coming
shortly, to complete the process. While I have sent these off to the
Promoter, I may have to retract and resubmit one or two of them to make
sure that the procedure works as planned.  I apologise for any errors I
may have made in this, but I will fix them within the next few hours
(provided the Promoter promotes my proposals within that time).

I urge all of you to support these proposals - we eliminated immutability
once before - we can do so again!

Yours sincerely,
Slakko

Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:05:30 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess Stuff

> The (None Yet) party has no Swinger - just to let you know.

I think the (None Yet) party disbanded when mr cwm left to join SPAM.
So there is no Swinger's Office for it in the first place.

> Who last harfed the Swingpoints?  I need to get the last set of figures to
> keep the totals up to date.

Karma was the one who last distributed them, but I have been harfing them
as entities for my Financierly duties; the totals I posted earlier should be
correct, or if not you can get the current totals off the PE page if you
search for "Swingpoint".

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--The Infidels:100 Watt Bulb
Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
Be true and do not lie in the area!

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:12:14 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Chess Stuff

Alfvaen wrote:

> > The (None Yet) party has no Swinger - just to let you know.
> 
> I think the (None Yet) party disbanded when mr cwm left to join SPAM.
> So there is no Swinger's Office for it in the first place.
> 
Was mr cwm the only remaining member of (none yet)?  That is the only
way that his departure would have caused its disbandment.

ThinMan

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:24:14 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess Stuff

> Alfvaen wrote:

> > > The (None Yet) party has no Swinger - just to let you know.

> > I think the (None Yet) party disbanded when mr cwm left to join SPAM.
> > So there is no Swinger's Office for it in the first place.

> Was mr cwm the only remaining member of (none yet)?  That is the only
> way that his departure would have caused its disbandment.

That is correct.  He and Guy Fawkes were the only members, and GF left
the game, and mr cwm left the party.  If anyone else is a member of (None
Yet), or Munchkin Haven, I am not aware of it.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Deacon Blue:When Will You(Make My Telephone Ring)
Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
Yellow concepts wobble jaggedly.  --ascott

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:12:02 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess Stuff

On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> > Alfvaen wrote:
> 
> > > > The (None Yet) party has no Swinger - just to let you know.
> 
> > > I think the (None Yet) party disbanded when mr cwm left to join SPAM.
> > > So there is no Swinger's Office for it in the first place.
> 
> > Was mr cwm the only remaining member of (none yet)?  That is the only
> > way that his departure would have caused its disbandment.
> 
> That is correct.  He and Guy Fawkes were the only members, and GF left
> the game, and mr cwm left the party.  If anyone else is a member of (None
> Yet), or Munchkin Haven, I am not aware of it.
>
Okay.  Even so, while the party was disbanded, the Swinger's Office
remains for 7 days (On a Limb - even though there is no swinger).  It's
gone as of this coming Monday).

Thanks for all the help,
Slakko
- --
Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 23:34:05 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : voting results for proposal 2355

I just looked at the voting results for proposal 2355.
I remember voting for this proposal, and my vote should have been counted,
just as it was for 2353.

breadbox, please recheck your records.

I don't mind reproposing it, but only if it's really necessary.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:32:17 -0000
From: "Gavin Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: The Rex Times, vol. 7, no. 20

Another message from Mad Scientist Rex Mundi:

"My zanks to all uf zose who may heff sent me perts for Valaraukar. Keep up
ze gut vork!"

Rex Mundi, Editor

Back issues:
The Rex Times is pleased to announce that the following back issues are now
available, at our regular charge of nothing at all.

vol. 5, no. 6
vol. 3, no. 5
vol. 14, no. 22
vol. 18, no. 8
vol. 24, no. 4
vol. 10, no. 5
vol. 7, no. 20

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:04:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : voting results for proposal 2355

> I just looked at the voting results for proposal 2355.
> I remember voting for this proposal, and my vote should have been counted,
> just as it was for 2353.
> 
> breadbox, please recheck your records.

Proposal 2355 was announced on Wed 5 Nov 1997 13:30:29. I received
four votes from you after that time, none of them for 2355. Perhaps
you are thinking of 2354 (which was retracted hours after you voted on
it)?

breadbox

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:08:40 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Chess Piece

> On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Bollinger, John C. wrote:

> > I hereby purchase a PartyChessPiece Demon (MV=2) for the Vulcan
> > Swinger's Office.  The cost is 7*2 + 1= 15 Ackadollars.

> Done.  I don't know the exact form for letting the Financier know,
> but I'm sure we'll get it sorted out.

I haven't been really sticky about a format, since I'm harfing it all
by hand.  Although the format I use in the entitylog is something like

Nov 11 20:35 EST: +1 pc Niccolo Flychuck: P2352
Nov 12 18:06 EST: +1 pc Slakko: P2356
Nov 13 09:08 EST: -15 A$ ThinMan: PartyChessPiece Demon purchase
Nov 13 12:22 EST: -1 vacation Niccolo Flychuck:

so if anybody wanted to submit things like that, go right ahead.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--Red Rider:Lunatic Fringe
Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
This is a perfect world; I'm riding on an incline

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:28:10 -0500
From: Dice Server <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Boon Determination

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# 93-97: ancient wisdom (new otzma card)
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> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: Boon determination
> 
> #C I am using the dice server to determine /dev/joe's boon from the 
> machine
> #C based on the following (using a 100 sided die):
> #C 1 -45: ancient artifact (random gadget)
> #C 46-70: ancient scroll (random otzma card)
> #C 71-80: gods are smiling (bonus vote)
> #C 81-87: ancient relic (trinket worth A$75)
> #C 88-92: ancient knowledge (new blueprint)
> #C 93-97: ancient wisdom (new otzma card)
> #C 98-99: gods are bored (pointy ears)
> #C  100 : gods are grouchy (chartreuse goose)
> #C Malenkai

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:40:09 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BWG

search for the parka
in the only place it is
somewhere surprising

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