Subject: ackanomic digest V2 #362
From: [email-masked] (ackanomic digest)
To: [email-masked]

ackanomic digest       Monday, November 10 1997       Volume 02 : Number 362

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 23:07:29 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 468 (Fortunato)

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Call For Judgment 468
> >   Subject: Playing Pieces
> > Initiator: Alfvaen
> > Submitted: 97-11-09 1:58 [by timestamp; initiator's e-mail appears
> > misconfigured]
> 
> In what way, precisely?  I do know that I've had some trouble convincing it
> that Daylight Savings Time is over...mainly because I can't change the
> system clock from Linux(well, I can change it, but it won't last once I
> turn the computer off...I have to do that from DOS).

Alfvaen's headers on this message looked OK to me.

Alfvaen, to set the CMOS clock from the system clock in Linux, use
the "clock" program (which lives in /sbin, so it may not be in your
normal path ... and you need to be root to do that.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:52:22 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: RoJ #20

  Malenkai, I seem to have this RoJ fragment.  I'd like to look at it, please.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:17:38 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 467 (Balsamic Dragon)

I'm not sure that this shouldn't be sent to Malenkai first, but since there
doesn't seem to be a large element of controversy consider this a sending
to the clerk as well.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Call For Judgment 467
>   Subject: On Ice
> Initiator: Alfvaen
> Submitted: 97-11-02 16:39
>     Judge: Balsamic Dragon (selected 97-11-03 19:39 EST)

      Judgement:   TRUE
> 
> Statement:
> 
> norpan was not On Ice on October 31st.

Alfvaen's reasoning makes sense to me, and I think that we should give
norpan the benefit of the doubt as to his statement.

> 
> Alfvaen's Reasoning:
> 
> This is the question that P2343 is designed to render moot, but I'd like
to
> have the matter cleared up before then, since it has potential game
effects
> (i.e. it affects the date norpan can be removed from the game if e does
not
> return), and the Proposal probably won't fix that.  (Maybe I should have
> put in some self-deleting text that would have done that...ah, well.)
> 
> norpan posted the following message on September 10, 1997:
> 
>    Due to an enourmous amount of work right now, I am putting myself
>    on vacation.  I hope to be back in October.
> 
> Rule 255, "Vacationing", states the following:
> 
>    A player should specify the expected duration of their vacation. If
>    the duration is not specified when they go on vacation, it is assumed
>    to be 14 days. If the period specified is longer than 60 days, it is
>    assumed, and recorded, as 60 days. If the period specified is shorter
>    than 2 days, it is assumed, and recorded, as 2 days. It is a duty of
>    the Registrar to keep a record of the expected duration of vacationing
>    players.
> 
> and
> 
>    If a player is still on vacation when their expected duration expires,
>    they are put "on ice", and it is a duty of the Registrar to announce
>    this fact publically. A player on ice is still considered a
>    vacationing player, and their on ice status is removed at the same
>    time they return from, or are removed, from vacation.
> 
> The question is whether or not norpan specified the expected duration of
> eir vacation, and, if so, what that duration was.
> 
> If norpan did not specify the duration, then the EDR was set to September
> 24th, and e became "On Ice" on the 25th.  [BTW, I have always assumed
that
> Vacation return times were not specified any more finely than to the day,
> so that a person would not become "On Ice" until the very beginning of
the
> day following the EDR.]  In this case, the CFJ should be ruled as FALSE.
> 
> If "I hope to be back in October" is to be interpreted as specifying a
date
> of return, there seem to be two possible dates specified: October 1st(as
in
> "I hope to be back at the beginning of October")and October 31st(as in "I
> hope to be back by the end of October").  The CFJ should be FALSE in the
> first case, and TRUE in the second case.
> 
> I have been harfing according to the last case, and P2343 is based on
that
> assumption as well.  However, if it can be decided differently, it should
> be settled now.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:25:26 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: CFJ 468 (Fortunato)

I accept.

>Fortunato has been selected.
>
>Clerk of the Courts
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Call For Judgment 468
>  Subject: Playing Pieces
>Initiator: Alfvaen
>Submitted: 97-11-09 1:58 [by timestamp; initiator's e-mail appears
>misconfigured]
>    Judge: Fortunato (selected 97-11-09 22:25 EST)
>Judgement: 
>
>Statement:
>
><...>

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:11:21 -0500 (EST)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ping*

To:   Ackanomians
From: mr cwm, Scholar of *ping*

Today is Monday, the 10th of November, and the Machine that Goes *ping*
Has Gone *ping* today.  Since I have been Scholar, the Machine has gone
*ping* 12 times. 

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:42:18 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 468

CFJ 468:  "Alfvaen, as current Swinger for Metamorph, may choose his
initial set of five playing pieces [to go with the King, which of course
he
cannot choose]."

I judge that this statement is TRUE.

Reasoning:  My reasoning is more or less in accord with Alfvaen's.  It
seems that the Office of Swinger received the option to choose five
pieces at its creation, which was not exercised until he did so.  If
this were not the case, it would cause anyone who did not immediately
define their five pieces to lose their chance to do so.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:44:04 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

> To:   Ackanomians
> From: mr cwm, Scholar of *ping*
> 
> Today is Monday, the 10th of November, and the Machine that Goes *ping*
> Has Gone *ping* today.  Since I have been Scholar, the Machine has gone
> *ping* 12 times. 

I pick O as the magic letter.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:08:45 -0500 (EST)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Membership Drive

Bidding a fond farewell to nobody in particular at Munchkin Haven, I join
SPAM, if they'll have me.

- -mr cwm

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:20:56 -0500 (EST)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

Ah, an "o."  Well, there ought to be an "o" around here somewhere ... here
they are!

"IF AND ONLY IF today ****h* *** ****** *h* ***h*** *h** *o** ****** *o *o
******, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping." 

Enjoy!

- -mr cwm
 Scholar of *ping*

#award /dev/joe : -A$25 : Magic Letter Premium

On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, /dev/joe wrote:

>I pick O as the magic letter.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:57:41 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 467 (Balsamic Dragon)

Balsamic Dragon wrote:

> I'm not sure that this shouldn't be sent to Malenkai first, but since there
> doesn't seem to be a large element of controversy consider this a sending
> to the clerk as well.

It doesn't become official until I distribute it, so sending it to
the main list is sort of like sending proposals to the main list when
they are intended for the Promoter.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:05:13 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 467 Verdict

CFJ 467 has been judged TRUE.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgment 467
  Subject: On Ice
Initiator: Alfvaen
Submitted: 97-11-02 16:39
    Judge: Balsamic Dragon (selected 97-11-03 19:39 EST)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:

norpan was not On Ice on October 31st.

Alfvaen's Reasoning:

This is the question that P2343 is designed to render moot, but I'd like to
have the matter cleared up before then, since it has potential game effects
(i.e. it affects the date norpan can be removed from the game if e does not
return), and the Proposal probably won't fix that.  (Maybe I should have
put in some self-deleting text that would have done that...ah, well.)

norpan posted the following message on September 10, 1997:

   Due to an enourmous amount of work right now, I am putting myself
   on vacation.  I hope to be back in October.

Rule 255, "Vacationing", states the following:

   A player should specify the expected duration of their vacation. If
   the duration is not specified when they go on vacation, it is assumed
   to be 14 days. If the period specified is longer than 60 days, it is
   assumed, and recorded, as 60 days. If the period specified is shorter
   than 2 days, it is assumed, and recorded, as 2 days. It is a duty of
   the Registrar to keep a record of the expected duration of vacationing
   players.

and

   If a player is still on vacation when their expected duration expires,
   they are put "on ice", and it is a duty of the Registrar to announce
   this fact publically. A player on ice is still considered a
   vacationing player, and their on ice status is removed at the same
   time they return from, or are removed, from vacation.

The question is whether or not norpan specified the expected duration of
eir vacation, and, if so, what that duration was.

If norpan did not specify the duration, then the EDR was set to September
24th, and e became "On Ice" on the 25th.  [BTW, I have always assumed that
Vacation return times were not specified any more finely than to the day,
so that a person would not become "On Ice" until the very beginning of the
day following the EDR.]  In this case, the CFJ should be ruled as FALSE.

If "I hope to be back in October" is to be interpreted as specifying a date
of return, there seem to be two possible dates specified: October 1st(as in
"I hope to be back at the beginning of October")and October 31st(as in "I
hope to be back by the end of October").  The CFJ should be FALSE in the
first case, and TRUE in the second case.

I have been harfing according to the last case, and P2343 is based on that
assumption as well.  However, if it can be decided differently, it should
be settled now.

Balsamic Dragon's Reasoning:

Alfvaen's reasoning makes sense to me, and I think that we should give
norpan the benefit of the doubt as to his statement.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:07:34 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 468 Verdict

CFJ 468 has been judged TRUE.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgment 468
  Subject: Playing Pieces
Initiator: Alfvaen
Submitted: 97-11-09 1:58 
    Judge: Fortunato (selected 97-11-09 22:25 EST)
Judgement: TRUE

Statement:

Alfvaen, as current Swinger for Metamorph, may choose his initial set of
five playing pieces[to go with the King, which of course he cannot choose].

Alfvaen's Reasoning:

Here's what Rule 1230.2 has to say:

   2. Managing the Game
   
   B. Each Office of Swinger receives one King, and five playing pieces.
   Each Swinger may choose any five pieces which are defined by a
   PartyChessPieceDef rule, as long as their total material value does
   not exceed 30. These pieces are created in the possession of the
   appropriate Swingers, free of charge. Initially all pieces are
   off-board.
   
   C. When a new Office of Swinger is created, it receives one King and
   five playing pieces, as described in 2.B.
   
   D. Whenever an Office of Swinger is destroyed, all Party Chess Pieces
   owned by that office are destroyed. No re-imbursement is made for the
   destroyed items.

Mr. Lunatic Fringe was appointed Swinger for Metamorph on July 18th, 1997
(though he didn't "accept" until July 19th, so the action may not have
occurred until then, but that's another CFJ, if anyone cares).  E left the
game on August 13th, without ever having chosen the five pieces as in 2.B.
above.

Alfvaen was appointed Swinger on November 5, 1997, still with no pieces
chosen for his Swinger Office.  2.D. does not apply, because Metamorph
remained in existence as a Party in the meantime, so its Office was not
destroyed, only vacant.  The question is, does Alfvaen have the right to
choose the five initial pieces?

An Office of Swinger is created when a Party is, and may not be filled
immediately, so obviously the King and five pieces need not be immediately
defined.  But the rules seem to be ambiguous as to when they must be
defined.  I'd like this clarified.

Fortunato's Reasoning: 

My reasoning is more or less in accord with Alfvaen's.  It
seems that the Office of Swinger received the option to choose five
pieces at its creation, which was not exercised until he did so.  If
this were not the case, it would cause anyone who did not immediately
define their five pieces to lose their chance to do so.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:12:08 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 468 (Fortunato)

> > Submitted: 97-11-09 1:58 [by timestamp; initiator's e-mail appears
> > misconfigured]
> 
> In what way, precisely?  I do know that I've had some trouble convincing it
> that Daylight Savings Time is over...mainly because I can't change the
> system clock from Linux(well, I can change it, but it won't last once I
> turn the computer off...I have to do that from DOS).

I'm not sure -- the timestamp of your mail shows up one hour later than 
I receive it, although as pointed out, the headers look fine.  I will 
look into it more on my end.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:15:20 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: RoJ #20

>   Malenkai, I seem to have this RoJ fragment.  I'd like to look at it, please.

Since you made a public request, I assume you want a public reply? ;-)

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:51:44 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: SPAM

I either join SPAM or request permission to join SPAM, whichever is
appropriate.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:30:01 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: SPAM

Note that SPAM organised an open admissions policy.  Anyone who wants to
join SPAM and publically states eir desire to do so has joined the club,
as far as I believe the rules go.

Yours,
Slakko
- --
Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:31:00 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Retraction of CFJ

I hereby retract my CFJ 469.  The reasoning is inappropriate.  I'll be
back with better reasoning later.

Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
http://dcr24.quns.cam.ac.uk/Nomic/27/Index.html <-- Imperial Nomic Game 27

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:57:20 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: *ping*

> To:   Ackanomians
> From: mr cwm, Scholar of *ping*
> 
> Today is Monday, the 10th of November, and the Machine that Goes
> *ping*
> Has Gone *ping* today.  Since I have been Scholar, the Machine has
> gone
> *ping* 12 times. 
> 
This is getting ridiculous.  Oh well.  In an attempt to push it all the
way over the top, I offer the following guess at the machine's truth.

O Scholar, can it be that the Machine's Truth is:  IF AND ONLY IF today
the chartreuse guardians of Harf yet stand firm against the Orange
Menace, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping. ?

ThinMan
Anxious Student of *ping*

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:04:30 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Let's go a-diggin'

I am creating a trinket, valued at $A100, named "The Trinket of Awesome,
Near-Infinite Possibilities".  The description is as follows:

"This trinket is a small, brownish, smooth disk-shaped object, about the
size of a small jewelry box.  It appears to have no buttons, switches,
touch-sensitive panels or lights on it's surface.  It has no openings or
hidden compartments.  It has no voice-activated features.  It cannot be
used to complete any significant quests, or to perform mighty arts of
magic.  It is mentioned nowhere in any incredibly ancient texts.
Nevertheless, it is a device of awesome power."

I am burying the Trinket of Awesome, Near-Infinite Possibilities, and
the Puzzle Box.  I will give out no hints whatsoever, except these hints
that are to follow:

1)  2-8-3-28-23-8 1 23-8-23-2-8-53 28-11 58-13-8 1-3-21-1-25-28-23-15-3
55-81-2-12-8-25-15-81-55

2)  13-1-82-8 1 51-53-28-55-58-13-8-58-15-3 "5-28-2-2-55" 13-8-1-5

3)  13-1-82-8 1 55-23-28-21-15-25-12 "11-53-28-51" 51-15-51-8

4)  Post a public message with these two attributes:
    i)  The body must be an appropriate response to the question, "Are
      cats on the upgrade?"
    ii) The subject must be a proper name that fits the question posed
      in part i).

- --
Aaron Keesler
Adtran, Inc.
- --

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:09:53 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: *ping*

> O Scholar, can it be that the Machine's Truth is:  IF AND ONLY IF today
> the chartreuse guardians of Harf yet stand firm against the Orange
> Menace, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping. ?

  Funny, but I believe some of the words are the wrong lengths...

___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______
<[email-masked]><[email-masked]> http://users.bergen.org/~dankna
Visit ftp://ftp.gmd.de/if-archive/ and find out about text adventures!
If you don't have anything to say, get off the soapbox.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:18:52 -0600
From: AARON KEESLER <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: *ping*

Yes, but I think he captured the _essence_ of the statement :)

>  Funny, but I believe some of the words are the wrong lengths...
>
>___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______
><[email-masked]><[email-masked]> http://users.bergen.org/~dankna
>Visit ftp://ftp.gmd.de/if-archive/ and find out about text adventures!
>If you don't have anything to say, get off the soapbox.
>
>

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:25:18 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: *ping*

Red Barn wrote:

> > O Scholar, can it be that the Machine's Truth is:  IF AND ONLY IF
> today
> > the chartreuse guardians of Harf yet stand firm against the Orange
> > Menace, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping. ?
> 
>   Funny, but I believe some of the words are the wrong lengths...
> 
Wrong lengths?  Phaugh!  You cling tightly to your safe, strict
traditionalism if you like, but not me!  I am throwing off the shackles
of conformity, looking unending *ping*s straight in the eye, and daring
them to try to stand up to me!  I say, I am seizing the bull by the
horns, taking the tiger by the tail, and grasping the bungy-eared yak
by its external auditory appendages!  You just wait and see what
happens, mark my words!

ThinMan!

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 13:58:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

> Ah, an "o."  Well, there ought to be an "o" around here somewhere ... here
> they are!
> 
> "IF AND ONLY IF today ****h* *** ****** *h* ***h*** *h** *o** ****** *o *o
> ******, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping." 
> 
> [...]
> 
> On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, /dev/joe wrote:
> 
>> I pick O as the magic letter.

Wasn't it /dev/joe who RFC'ed an idea to allow students to heckle each
other's lousy choice of Magic Letters...?

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:09:09 -0500 (EST)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: *ping* (Ridicule)

On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, ThinMan wrote:

>This is getting ridiculous.  Oh well.  In an attempt to push it all the
>way over the top, I offer the following guess at the machine's truth.
>
>O Scholar, can it be that the Machine's Truth is:  IF AND ONLY IF today
>the chartreuse guardians of Harf yet stand firm against the Orange
>Menace, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping. ?
>
>
>ThinMan
>Anxious Student of *ping*

Anxious!  You'd better be anxious!  I'd be anxious, too, if I'd submitted
such a pathetic, farcical, and irreverent guess at the Truth!  You'll be
lucky if the Ancient Ones don't stop up your external auditory appendages
(pointy or not) so you never hear a *ping* again!  Bah!

- -mr cwm
 deeply offended Scholar of *ping*

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:51:46 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

> > "IF AND ONLY IF today ****h* *** ****** *h* ***h*** *h** *o** ****** *o *o
> > ******, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping." 

breadbox wrote:
> Wasn't it /dev/joe who RFC'ed an idea to allow students to heckle each
> other's lousy choice of Magic Letters...?

I laugh at breadbox's heckling as I submit my guess at the machine's truth.
Is it:

IF AND ONLY IF today truths may permit the Machine that goes *ping*
to go *ping*, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

?

/dev/joe
Hoping the *extremely* sloooow net right now doesn't cost him a boon.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:44:23 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Membership Drive

> Bidding a fond farewell to nobody in particular at Munchkin Haven, I join
> SPAM, if they'll have me.

And so ends the longest-lived party in Ackanomic.  Historian, take note.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Cowboy Junkies:Sweet Jane(Live)
Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
Chuckle--A truly 20th-century sound: a little crazed and having no tonal center.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 20:25:57 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Bond Dividends, November 10

Here are the bond dividends for the bond cycle ending November 10 at noon
(although if Slakko's French-Scotsman attempt goes as he claimed in his
original CFJ submission, this might change slightly).

Score changes used for bond cycle calculation:
- ----------------------------------------------
Ace Rimmer: 0
Alfvaen: 16
Antimatter: 0
Archie Leach: -3
Atilla the Pun: 0
AZTEC GOD: 0
Balsamic Dragon: 7
Ben: 0
breadbox: 11
Calvin N Hobbes: 0
CarsesraC: 0
Chaos: 0
Crackfoo: 15
Darth Vader: 0
/dev/joe: 0
Dread Pirate Roberts: 0
fnord: 0
Fortunato: 7
Guy Fawkes: 0
ILIOS: 0
Karma: -5
Malenkai: 0
mr cwm: 6
Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 0
Niccolo Flychuck: 15
norpan: 0
Onieros: 0
Red Barn: 2
Rex Mundi: 1
Robert Sevin: 0
Slakko: 2
SonOfWu: 0
ThinMan: 3
two-star: 0
Voting Gnome: 30
Vynd: 2
Whiz: 0
 
Bond Dividends
- --------------
Ace Rimmer: 0.0  -->  100*0
Alfvaen: 12.14  -->  69*16 + 10*11
Antimatter: 0.0  -->  95*0
Archie Leach: -1.5  -->  100*-3/2
AZTEC GOD: 0.0  -->  100*0
Balsamic Dragon: 7.0  -->  100*7
breadbox: 9.02  -->  82*11
Calvin N Hobbes: 0.0  -->  100*0
Crackfoo: 18.0  -->  30*15 + 30*15 + 30*30
Darth Vader: 0.0  -->  100*0
Dread Pirate Roberts: 0.0  -->  100*0
/dev/joe: 16.05  -->  90*0 + 2*0 + 15*15 + 10*3 + 45*30
fnord: 0.17  -->  1*11 + 2*0 + 93*0 + 1*6 + 1*0 + 1*0
Fortunato: 7.0  -->  100*7
Karma: -2.5  -->  100*-5/2
Malenkai: 0.0  -->  79*0
mr cwm: 5.89  -->  2*11 + 1*0 + 94*6 + 5*0 + 1*3
Niccolo Flychuck: 9.7  -->  5*16 + 5*11 + 5*0 + 5*0 + 50*15 + 5*2 + 5*0 + 5*15
norpan: 0.0  -->  100*0
Red Barn: 1.8  -->  90*2
Robert Sevin: 0.04  -->  1*0 + 1*0 + 85*0 + 2*2
Slakko: 2.0  -->  100*2
SonOfWu: 0.0  -->  100*0
ThinMan: 3.47  -->  5*16 + 10*0 + 89*3
two-star: 1.5  -->  5*0 + 1*0 + 99*0 + 5*30
Voting Gnome: 6.0  -->  20*30
Vynd: 1.96  -->  98*2
Ackers: 0.0  -->  4*0
Chaos: 4.61  -->  11*16 + 2*0 + 5*0 + 2*0 + 5*6 + 17*15
Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 7.95  -->  1*0 + 3*15 + 50*15
Narf: 0.1  -->  5*2
Odo on the Wormhole: 1.6  -->  10*16
RexBank: 1.0  -->  100*1

#award Alfvaen: 13 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Archie Leach: -2 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Balsamic Dragon: 7 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award breadbox: 10 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Crackfoo: 18 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award /dev/joe: 17 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award fnord: 1 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Fortunato: 7 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Karma: -3 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award mr cwm: 6 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Niccolo Flychuck: 10 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Red Barn: 2 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Robert Sevin: 1 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Slakko: 2 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award ThinMan: 4 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award two-star: 2 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Voting Gnome: 6 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Vynd: 2 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Chaos: 5 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 8 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Narf: 1 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award Odo on the Wormhole: 2 A$ : dividend Nov 10
#award RexBank: 1 A$ : dividend Nov 10

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--Marvin Hamlisch:The Entertainer
Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
Sing hey, my fine fellow, let's wrestle in Jello

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 22:31:31 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: INP 351

INP 351 was submitted by Agora.  The hearing on whether to vote yes
or no lasts for one week.  Reply to vote:

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Fix a typo in rule 349 by replacing the string "The liaison of any
member nomic can sent a message to the mailing list" with "The liaison
of any member nomic can send a message to the mailing list". 
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:14:13 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Bob

I am forming an organization called The Ackanomic Subgenius.
To commemorate this event, I am trading my Rock To Wind A String Around
for a Prosthetic Forehead.  This Forehead shall bear a remarkable
resemblance to the forehead of "Bob" Dobbs.  Unfortunately, the forehead
won't come down far enough to have the full effect, so I am also creating
the Smoking "Frop" Pipe, a trinket worth A$68 whose description is as
follows:

This pipe has a long and thin stem, designed to hang down from the
smoker's mouth at a jaunty angle when held between the teeth.  It is the
trademark of the Subgenius.  The smoke that emerges from it is very froppy
in all respects.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--The Grapes of Wrath:Breaks My Heart(Live)
Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
Alfredo just must bring very exciting news to the plaza quickly.

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:20:40 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Bob 2

Since my creation of the Smoking "Frop" Pipe fails because of the fact
that quote characters are illegal, I'll create a trinket called the Smoking
'Frop' Pipe with the same value and description.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Song--XTC:Senses Working Overtime
Current Book--William Tenn:The Seven Sexes
Testostaroni--the _real_ San Francisco treat!

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 23:35:47 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: *ping*

On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Bollinger, John C. wrote:

> 
> Red Barn wrote:
> 
> > > O Scholar, can it be that the Machine's Truth is:  IF AND ONLY IF
> > today
> > > the chartreuse guardians of Harf yet stand firm against the Orange
> > > Menace, THEN the Machine that goes *ping* shall go *ping. ?
> > 
> >   Funny, but I believe some of the words are the wrong lengths...
> > 
> Wrong lengths?  Phaugh!  You cling tightly to your safe, strict
> traditionalism if you like, but not me!  I am throwing off the shackles
> of conformity, looking unending *ping*s straight in the eye, and daring
> them to try to stand up to me!  I say, I am seizing the bull by the
> horns, taking the tiger by the tail, and grasping the bungy-eared yak
> by its external auditory appendages!  You just wait and see what
> happens, mark my words!
> 
> 
> ThinMan!

Bravo ThinMan, bravo!  I applaud not only your audacity, but your message.
Indeed Harf shall remain safe so long as the Chartruse Guardians stand
firm!  I must say, however, that our President cannot be counted amongst
said Guardians.  I have been patient, sure that our fearless leader would
soon show us the way out of the orange haze that surrounds us, but alas
no!  Having warned him of our impending doom on countless occassions, I
must regretfully say that our President is either blind to the situation
and deaf to our pleas, or is purposefully taking a weak stance against the
Orange Menace.  I cannot being to speculate as to what might be motivating
the later.....

                             - Senator Vynd

[email-masked]

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