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ackanomic digest       Tuesday, November 4 1997       Volume 02 : Number 356

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 02:26:42 -0500 (EST)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: The Rex Times, vol. 18 no. 8

On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Gavin Doig wrote:

> The Flora Amanita should be findable fairly soon... We've published a few
> clues now, and it shouldn't be monstrously difficult for any REM fans.
> 
> In other news, I got engaged today. Woohoo!
> 
> Rex Mundi.
> 

Congratulations!

                                     - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:00:51 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction them Entities

"Leave that junk in the Warehouse"

Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS, CUANZSS, Archimedeans, CUDipSoc, how do I study?

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:52:47 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Proposal 2341 rejected

On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Bollinger, John C. wrote:

> Niccolo Flychuck wrote:
> 
> > Could people please let me know why they voted against this one?
> > 
> > After the RFC there were some objections raised. I left the
> > objectionable
> > material out, took the time to point it out in a commment before the
> > proposal. 
> > Anyone?
> > 
> You did not leave out all the material to which I objected.  It
> probably would have been difficult to do so, because I pretty much
> objected to your whole approach.  After having voiced my concerns in
> the RFC stage, I decided tosimply vote against the proposal.  I also
> decided not to take any extraordinary measures to attempt to defeat
> the proposal.

I left out material to which there a lot of objections, including yours.
Such as the player -sanctioned organizations, and how politicla parties
are defined. Those appeared to me to be the main objections.

I'm afraid you're going to have to jog my memory as to your other specific
objections.  
Niccolo Flychuck

> 
> 
> ThinMan
> 
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:56:05 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : An unofficial report from an ex Chess Umpire

On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Duncan Richer wrote:

> I believe that the formation of SPAM as a Political Party, and my
> "appointment" as its Swinger entitles me to join the game (in fact
> automatically puts me in the game).  I will have to email the Chess Umpire
> with my choice of initial pieces, but nonetheless am I right in thinking
> that I should be put on the bottomof this list?
> 
> Yours,
> Slakko
> 

You are indeed correct, however I did point out that this is an unofficial
report made by an ex chess umpire in order to make it easier for the newly
appointed chess umpire to take on eir duties. I also stated that it
reflects the state of things at the time I left the office, which was some
time before SPAM was founded. Therefore you will be added to the list by
the new Chess Umpire, when the position is filled.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:01:32 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2347

On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> > Proposal 2347
> > Doubles all Round!
> > Niccolo Flychuck (Uri Bruck)
> 
> > This is a Modest Proposal.
> > Append the following text to section 6 of R1230.2:
> > "It is impersmissible for a Swinger to Move the same piece in the same turn
> > more than once. If a Swinger is permitted to make more than one Move per
> > turn, then each Move must be with a different piece."
> > 
> > {{[double moves for a single piece make things really complicated,
> > including allowing Swingers to Capture Kings. Another possible ammendment
> > would have been an ammendnment to handle King's Capture, but I prefer the
> > I submitted]}}
> 
> This is good, but this isn't enough to prevent King capture.  For instance,
> if pieces are lined up as follows:   BK WB WR
> and "W" has two moves this turn, he could move the bishop out of the way
> with the first move, and then...
> 
> Best to simply make it so that in any multiple move, if any single
> move ends with any king in check, the turn ends right there.

Right. I considered this solution, and now that you mention the above it
seems that it was the best one after all. I'll retract the above, and
resubmit with this in mind.
 > 
> Also, do the multiple-move bits consider a player being in check?  If
> a player in check has multiple moves or a move+placement, the first
> move should be required to take him out of check.  
The current rules say that a Swinger cannot end eir move in a stat of
being checked. I don't see why this should be required.

> In a multiple-player
> check situation, take away the multiple-move options -- it could be
> hard enough to have non-conflicting moves without letting some of the
> checked players make two moves and a placement...

Agreed.

Niccolo Flychuck

> 
> /dev/joe
> 
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:20:21 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: acka: The Rex Times, vol. 18 no. 8

Rex Mundi wrote:

> In other news, I got engaged today. Woohoo!
> 
Congratulations!

ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:38:00 -0500
From: "Vivian Norwood" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: re acka congrats

> 
> In other news, I got engaged today. Woohoo!
> 
> Rex Mundi

Rex you dog, you!  Congratulations!

Balsamic Dragon

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:02:53 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Proposal 2341 rejected

Niccolo Flychuck wrote:

> I left out material to which there a lot of objections, including
> yours.
> Such as the player -sanctioned organizations, and how politicla
> parties
> are defined. Those appeared to me to be the main objections.
> 
> I'm afraid you're going to have to jog my memory as to your other
> specific
> objections.  
> 
In all fairness, you did remove much of the material to which I
objected.  And to perfectly frank, I'm not quite certain which of
the comments I am about to make I actually expressed earlier.  Perhaps
some I did not.  In any case:

(1) I see nothing wrong with "small" organizations, and no reason why
they must be forced to disband.  I concede that allowing such to wield
organizational powers may be unbalancing, but I am not wholly convinced
even of that.  I will not champion organizational powers for small
organizations against the objections of the rest of the playership,
but I will champion small organizations.

(2) I think there are problems with your new method for forming
player-sanctioned organizations.  It is not clear to me that it would
work at all.  A Judge might have found that it worked as intended, but
why risk it?  Also, if it did work then the required protocol would
leave open a loophole by which an Organization formation could be
hijacked; that would be more of an annoyance than anything else in most
situations but why leave it open?  If we keep small organizations
then there is no need to make any changes to the method of formation of
player-sanctioned organizations.

ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:15:35 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: acka: The Rex Times, vol. 18 no. 8

> The Flora Amanita should be findable fairly soon... We've published a few
> clues now, and it shouldn't be monstrously difficult for any REM fans.

Well, "Life's Rich Pageant" was never my favourite of their albums...

> In other news, I got engaged today. Woohoo!

Congratulations to the future Rex & Regina Mundi!

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--REM:Fall On Me
Current Book--Wild Cards XII:Turn of The Cards
'Oh, bother,' said Pooh, as he formatted his life.

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:23:33 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Salaries

The following salaries were paid yesterday at noon:

Nov 03 12:00 EST: +35 A$ Malenkai: salary - speaker 35
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ breadbox: salary - promoter 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - web-harfer 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ breadbox: salary - tabulator 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Malenkai: salary - count tabula 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - registrar 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - scorekeeper 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - financier 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Malenkai: salary - clerk of the court 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Vynd: salary - CSRR 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ breadbox: salary - postmaster 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ two-star: salary - map-harfer 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - undead-harfer 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Alfvaen: salary - bond-harfer 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +25 A$ Malenkai: salary - trinket-harfer 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +1 autosculp Malenkai: salary - treasure-harfer 25
Nov 03 12:00 EST: +0 A$ [nobody]: salary - chess-umpire 25 - vacant

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--REM:Fall On Me
Current Book--Wild Cards XII:Turn of The Cards
Left to my own lurch

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:26:17 -0700 (MST)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: acka : An unofficial report from an ex Chess Umpire

> > I believe that the formation of SPAM as a Political Party, and my
> > "appointment" as its Swinger entitles me to join the game (in fact
> > automatically puts me in the game).  I will have to email the Chess Umpire
> > with my choice of initial pieces, but nonetheless am I right in thinking
> > that I should be put on the bottomof this list?

> You are indeed correct, however I did point out that this is an unofficial
> report made by an ex chess umpire in order to make it easier for the newly
> appointed chess umpire to take on eir duties. I also stated that it
> reflects the state of things at the time I left the office, which was some
> time before SPAM was founded. Therefore you will be added to the list by
> the new Chess Umpire, when the position is filled.

Now, what happens if Slakko himself becomes Chess-Umpire?  Can he still be
a Swinger as well?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--REM:Fall On Me
Current Book--Wild Cards XII:Turn of The Cards
I have engaged the enemy.  The wedding is this Saturday.

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:56:56 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: acka: The Rex Times, vol. 18 no. 8

> Rex Mundi wrote:
> 
> > In other news, I got engaged today. Woohoo!
> > 
> Congratulations!
> 
> ThinMan

  Let me be the ... er, next ... to add my best wishes!

___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______
<[email-masked]><[email-masked]> http://users.bergen.org/~dankna
Visit rec.games.video.classic and find out about Pac-Man's contemporaries!
The good, the bad, and the unmentionable.

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:58:55 +0000 ()
From: Duncan Richer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : An unofficial report from an ex Chess Umpire

> 
> Now, what happens if Slakko himself becomes Chess-Umpire?  Can he still be
> a Swinger as well?

I checked the rules carefully.  I can't find anything preventing me from
doing so, even in the Party Chess Rule Suite.
- --
Slakko
- --
Duncan C. Richer -- aka Slakko the Lost Warner Brother -- Now Really Lost!
Queens' College  -- PhD, Pure Maths, Graph Theory --  Cambridge University
"Equipment malfunction." "Well, whack it." -- Obscure P&TB Quote
CUSFS, CUSTS, CURS, CUANZSS, Archimedeans, CUDipSoc, how do I study?

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:09:15 -0500 (EST)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: The Rex Times, vol. 18 no. 8

On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Rex Mundi wrote:

>In other news, I got engaged today. Woohoo!

Woohoo, indeed!  Congratulations!

- -mr cwm

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:10:04 -0500 (EST)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: *ping*

To:   Ackanomians
From: mr cwm, Scholar of *ping*

Today is Tuesday, the 4th of November, and the Machine that Goes *ping*
Has Gone *ping* today.  Since I have been Scholar, the Machine has gone
*ping* 6 times. 

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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:21:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping*

> To:   Ackanomians
> From: mr cwm, Scholar of *ping*
> 
> Today is Tuesday, the 4th of November, and the Machine that Goes *ping*
> Has Gone *ping* today.  Since I have been Scholar, the Machine has gone
> *ping* 6 times. 

O mr scholar, I would like to name 'h' as the Magic Letter.

breadbox

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 00:13:04 -0000
From: "Gavin Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: The Rex Times, vol. 25 no. 4

Firstly, thanks to all of you who offered your congratulations :-). You may
be glad to hear I can now eat again...

Alfvaen: the map to the Flora Amanita has nothing to do with Lifes Rich
Pageant. It might help to have another REM album, but it isn't essential.
Remember, you can sometimes judge a book by its cover...

Rex Mundi.

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