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ackanomic digest        Monday, October 6 1997        Volume 02 : Number 327

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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:31:57 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: There is no Orange Menace

Ackanomic,

We come in orange to greet you. Orange, yes, but THERE IS NO ORANGE MENACE.
The denizens of the rind are your friends, and your would-be saviors.  We
ask only that you read our message at http://www.alaska.net/~snowgod/patch/
before making any decisions about the "Orange Menace".  Cast of the
shackles of the tyranical ruling elite, free yourself from the pedalogy of
the oppressed.  Become one with the orange and be happy.

er, Phil

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:30:54 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: metamorphosis

Thank you for your approval RS, but didn't you leave MetaMorph way back?
(if you are a member and I've neglected you then I apologize for
having forgotten you, and happy that you are one of us)

Niccolo Flychuck

On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Mitchell Harding wrote:

> I also approve of Alfvaen joining Metamorph.
> 
> Robert Sevin
> 
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> 

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 04:10:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: metamorphosis

At 10:30 AM 10/6/97 +0200, you wrote:
>
>Thank you for your approval RS, but didn't you leave MetaMorph way back?
>(if you are a member and I've neglected you then I apologize for
>having forgotten you, and happy that you are one of us)

I never voluntarily left(that I can recall), but I may have been ejected
automatically due to some rule.

Even if I am no longer a member, I still approve. :)

Robert Sevin

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:11:16 +0100
From: "Gavin Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: BWG Laser

> > I am also constructing an Evil Ballot Stuffer.  It will be done
> > in 3 days.
> 
> This is done.  An auction now starts.
#transfer RexBank, Rex Mundi: 1A$. Approved.

I bid 1 A$ for this.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:13:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: There is no Orange Menace

The entity formerly known as snowgod wrote:
> We come in orange to greet you. Orange, yes, but THERE IS NO ORANGE MENACE.
> The denizens of the rind are your friends, and your would-be saviors.  We
> ask only that you read our message at http://www.alaska.net/~snowgod/patch/
> before making any decisions about the "Orange Menace".  Cast of the
> shackles of the tyranical ruling elite, free yourself from the pedalogy of
> the oppressed.  Become one with the orange and be happy.

Alas, snowgod has been devoured by the orange menace, which continues to
brainwash the patchlings into believing (1) that there is still a ruling
elite in Acka, and (2) that the former ruling elite was oppressive and
tyrannical.  Defending your power for a short time, building a palace,
and reattaching half of the earth, while letting unrelated business proceed,
is not tyranny, nor oppression.

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:32:34 -0400
From: "Michael James" <[email-masked]>
Subject: re acka The Truth

The machine's truth

IF AND ONLY IF today ** *** ******,  *******, *********,  ********, ******
** ********, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*. 

- - Karma (scholar of ping)

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:40:21 -0400
From: "Michael James" <[email-masked]>
Subject: re acka *ping*

"Today is Monday, the 6th day of October, in the Year of Our Lord 1997, and
the Machine That Goes *ping* Has Gone *ping* today. Since I have been
scholar, the Machine has gone *ping* 1 times."
- - Karma (Scholar of *Ping*)

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:48:31 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: There is no Orange Menace

er, Phil wrote:

> We come in orange to greet you. Orange, yes, but THERE IS
> NO ORANGE MENACE.
> 
Alas, the Orange Menace has this once proud former Ackanomian
firmly in its grasp.  The Rules of Ackanomic clearly specify
that there is, indeed, an Orange Menace, and only a person
profoundly under its sway could possibly denounce this
stipulation so roundly.

> The denizens of the rind are your friends, and your would-
> be saviors.
> 
Ackazens, do not listen to him!  Once you turn to the Orange
side, forever will it dominate your destiny!  Witness as an
example this very Phil, former Mr. Lunatic Fringe, now a
witless servant of the Orange Menace.  So completely did the
Menace overcome him that he actually fled Ackanomic's shores
to seek refuge in the Menace's home itself.

> We ask only that you read our message at
	http://www.alaska.net/~snowgod/patch/ before making any
> decisions about the "Orange Menace".
> 
Mere propaganda and doctored photos.  If you need confirmation
then go to Ackanomic's shores yourself.  Indeed, if the Orange
Menace were not so dangerous, I would even recommend you
travel to the Wilds of Ackanomia to see its influence.  The
Orange Menace wants you, Ackanomians, but you have the power
to resist it.  Indeed, it is even possible that if we
cooperated, we could bring relief even to our cousins in the
patch, though I fear that they may never be wholly free.

> Cast of the shackles of the tyranical ruling elite, free
> yourself from the pedalogy of the oppressed.  Become one
> with the orange and be happy.
> 
Yes, Ackanomians -- turn in your brains at the door and be
assimilated by the Orange Menace.  Join it and become happy,
carefree, mindless drones.  Who knows what despicable Orange
deeds you might be driven to perform; even so far as
attempting to seduce your friends and associates into
succumbing to the Orange Menace's allure themselves.  But no,
not me.  Even should all the rest of Ackanomic fall to the
Menace, I shall continue to fight it as long as I am able.
Perhaps I will be overcome in the end, but I will not lay
down and _allow_ such a doom to have me.

ThinMan
Ackanomian

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:48:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: metamorphosis

>> Thank you for your approval RS, but didn't you leave MetaMorph way back?
>> (if you are a member and I've neglected you then I apologize for
>> having forgotten you, and happy that you are one of us)
> 
> I never voluntarily left(that I can recall), but I may have been ejected
> automatically due to some rule.

I believe you left MetaMorph when you joined Harf.

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:50:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: re acka The Truth

> The machine's truth
> 
> IF AND ONLY IF today ** *** ******,  *******, *********,  ********, ******
> ** ********, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*. 
> 
> - Karma (scholar of ping)

O Mighty Scholar, I am guessing that the Machine's Truth is:

IF AND ONLY IF today is not Monday,  Tuesday, Wednesday,  Thursday, Friday
or Saturday, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:52:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: re acka The Truth

My dear Scholar,
Is the truth by any chance:

IF AND ONLY IF today is not Sunday,  Tuesday, Wednesday,  Thursday, Friday
or Saturday, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*. 

/dev/joe
Would this be a record?

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:58:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: re acka The Truth

> My dear Scholar,
> Is the truth by any chance:
> 
> IF AND ONLY IF today is not Sunday,  Tuesday, Wednesday,  Thursday, Friday
> or Saturday, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*. 
> 
> /dev/joe
> Would this be a record?

I certainly hope the record books show that I finally managed to beat
/dev/joe in a Hubert situation.

However, I believe that these guesses are moot, as the Machine is not
supposed to *ping* on the same day that the truth is announced. So it
looks like the Machine will teleport to a random home.

breadbox

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:39:34 -0500
From: bt <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: There is no Orange Menace

thin hoosier man
mr lunatic fringe aka er phil is not a *witless* servant of the orange
menace
although the orange menace is in fact real (as witnessed by its place of
honor in the ackan uliset), in all other respects er phil's post is one
hundred percent accurate
(at least we dont have a trout in *our* milk
another hoosier
(at least by birth)
(and its nice to see another of my cave dwelling brethren in the nomic
world)
Bowser

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:29:55 -0400
From: "Michael James" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re acka the truth 

O Mighty Scholar, I am guessing that the Machine's Truth is:

IF AND ONLY IF today is not Monday,  Tuesday, Wednesday,  Thursday, Friday
or Saturday, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

breadbox

A brilliant deduction Breadbox this is indeed the cryptic truth.
How you managed to solve it so quickly and effortlessly is most amazing! I
must say I was flipping (well not really flipping, that's not possible)
through the past truths and I was somewhat disconcerted to see all these
non challenging truths eg: the date is a series of prime numbers
triangulated to equal the root of the inverted square of the present date
if we were in a leap year, and I said what we need is a "real challenge".
To top it off I had just logged on to ask Malenkai if I had to add d/j's
magic letter d to the truth since it wasn't administered to Rexs' truth,
thinking I'd make it a little simpler to figure. And whoa and woe and low
and behold you already had it solved, brilliant!
Alas, if what you say about posting it on the same day as the *ping* is
something I overlooked, that machine has left me as quickly as it appeared.

- - Karma (Scholarless of *ping*)

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:21:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re acka the truth

Karma responded to breadbox's guess:
> IF AND ONLY IF today is not Monday,  Tuesday, Wednesday,  Thursday, Friday
> or Saturday, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

> A brilliant deduction Breadbox this is indeed the cryptic truth.

> Alas, if what you say about posting it on the same day as the *ping* is
> something I overlooked, that machine has left me as quickly as it appeared.

Not only that, but if breadbox's guess was correct, then the *ping*
message was not only posted against the rule which says when the machine
starts *pinging*, but also didn't match the truth, since the *ping* was
posted on Monday.

/dev/joe
breadbox beat me out in the race to post the guess first, but mine
matched the posted *ping*.

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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:07:27 +0100
From: "Gavin Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Re acka the truth 

[snip]
> To top it off I had just logged on to ask Malenkai if I had to add d/j's
> magic letter d to the truth since it wasn't administered to Rexs' truth,
[snip]

Actually, it was. There just weren't any d's in the truth.

Which reminds me, the truth was:
IF AND ONLY IF today has a name which begins with the letters W or H, THEN
the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.
The H was for Halloween, in case you're wondering.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:30:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: metamorphosis

At 08:48 AM 10/6/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>> Thank you for your approval RS, but didn't you leave MetaMorph way back?
>>> (if you are a member and I've neglected you then I apologize for
>>> having forgotten you, and happy that you are one of us)
>> 
>> I never voluntarily left(that I can recall), but I may have been ejected
>> automatically due to some rule.
>
>I believe you left MetaMorph when you joined Harf.

Ah. If the two are mutually exclusive, then indeed I did.

Oh well, he still has my approval.

Robert Sevin

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 20:49:26 -0400
From: "Michael James" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: re re acka The truth

Not only that, but if breadbox's guess was correct, then the *ping*
message was not only posted against the rule which says when the machine
starts *pinging*, but also didn't match the truth, since the *ping* was
posted on Monday.

/dev/joe
breadbox beat me out in the race to post the guess first, but mine
matched the posted *ping*.

Oh my graciousness! Double brilliant! Dev/joe you have made an impacting
point. On close examination (actually not that close) I must rip all of
that praise from Breadbox and forward it to D/J for he is the mastermind
that unravelled the true, truth of the machine. It was in fact "sunday"
that should have been included in the truth phrase. 
Although it may be in vain you have buried Breadbox once again.

- - Karma (Twice removed scholar of *ping*)

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:41:55 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Potato + Aliens

Onieros has found the magic potato.

Alien rolls:

1054
1553
454

no effect.

Malenkai
Speaker

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:52:30 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: re acka The Truth

> However, I believe that these guesses are moot, as the Machine is not
> supposed to *ping* on the same day that the truth is announced. So it
> looks like the Machine will teleport to a random home.

That only happens if a player complains that the scholar's error has
compromised the game.  It seems that the truth has been found before
anyone has made such a complaint, so whoever actually solved it would
get a boon, it would seem.  So who actually solved it?  I saw two 
different announcements of different players solving it; which, if
any, holds sway?  If neither hold sway, I am officially complaining that
the game has been compromised per rule 1209.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:53:23 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: BWG Laser

> I bid 1 A$ for this.

I bid A$ 5.

Malenkai

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