Subject: ackanomic digest V2 #254
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ackanomic digest       Saturday, August 16 1997       Volume 02 : Number 254

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 21:22:07 -0700
From: **Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: YAHA RFC: Responses and refinements

John Frederic Mc Coy wrote:
> 

> >

> 
> I must have forgotten about the score requirements thing, forgive me, the
> RFC was very detailed after all.  How exactly were the score requirements
> for the various elements going to be determined though?
> 

Er, it was kind of complicated, more so than it needed to be. When I was 
thinking about the number of agenda credits each player shoud have, I realized 
that no limit was necessary, and from there it makes sense to ditch the agenda 
credits and bid directly on the score requirement, with a maximum (and 
default) bid of (magic number / 3) and a minimum bid of -2*(magic number/3) 
This means that players won't have to do all the math in their heads and can 
directly bid the difficulty of the condition. (i.e., if one believes 
fulfilling a condition and making 50 points is as easy as making (magic#/3) 
and fulfilling the simplest condition, one would bid 50.  Note that one could 
always bid the maximum on all NEs and be guaranteed a minimum level of 
difficulty on the associated AEs.) Of course this means the lowest bid wins 
instead of the highest. Another advantage of this is that, with no bidding 
restrictions, it is pretty easy to see when a condition is neary impossible, 
because many players will bid near the minimum.

> >
> >  "The fact that you aren't allowed to get your own elements back will
> > help, but there are still going
> > to be groups of people who decide to cooperate to give one of them an
> > excellent, call it hand, of conditions."
> >
> > I have given my reasoning for believing that the elements should be fairly
> > well balanced. But even if some are particularly easy, (due to poor
> > nemesis bidding,) why would anyone cooperate to help another player
> > without receiving a benefit to eirself? (And if the benefit is to receive
> > something nice in trade, well, that’s part of the game.)
> > If any player wanted to help another player win the cycle while decreasing
> > eir own chances of winning, they could issue duel challenges and
> > immediately forfeit them. (of course they couldn't do it too often.) Since
> > they do not do that now, I do not think that they will do so with hidden
> > agendas.
> 
> Heh, suffice it to say that I disagree with your assesment of how much
> cooperation goes on, when it comes to these matters.
> 

In any case I hope that cooperation would be a positive aspect of this.

> > My idea for the bidding system is this:
> > Each player will privately send one message to the HA-harfer, with eir bid
> > for each NE in agenda credits on it. Something like:
> >
> > Subject: Acka: NE bid
> >
> > NE1: 25
> > NE3: 5
> > NE4: 75
> > NE5: 20
> > NE7: 30
> > . . .
> > NE15: 8
> >
> > The HA harfer will then determine the distribution of NE’s as follows: the
> > NE with the highest bid will be awarded to its highest bidder, then NE’s
> > with the next highest bid in turn will be awarded to their highest
> > bidders, with the caveat that bids that would cause a player to have more
> > than 3 NE’s or to run out of agenda credits would be ignored. Any NE’s
> > that remain unbid on will be randomly distributed to players who do not
> > yet have NE's. Any ties will be broken randomly by the HA harfer. When the
> > AE weights are determined from the NE bids, perhaps the second highest bid
> > should be used so that extremely high bids by players who misunderstand a
> > condition’s difficulty will not make the associated AE too easy. I dunno.
> 
> This sounds reasonable to me.  Perhaps the elements should be split up
> into batches, however, saw of 8 or 10 each (or less, if there aren't many
> players).  this would help to avoid circumstances where elements never
> recieve bids at all.  It might also lead to more interesting bidding
> strategies, especially if you were allowed to use as many of your points
> as you want at any time, not some set portion of your total per batch.
> 

I don't see the circumstance of elements for easy conditions not receiving 
bids (or, in the new formulation, receiving the default bid,) as something to 
be avoided. I still prefer having only one batch in order to speed and 
simplify things.

> >
> > "So long as I'm here, a few other things that might cause problems.  what
> > if someone deliberately creates impossibly hard conditions, since he knows
> > he won't get them?"
> >
> > Good point. I guess the simplest solution would be to give the HA-harfer
> > the ability to throw these out at eir discretion, with a penalty to be
> > imposed on the offender. But there is a real grey area between impossibly
> > hard and very difficult. Penalizing the creator of the condition which
> > gets the highest NE bid is a possibility, but I don’t think this should
> > occur if the condition is only reasonably difficult, and it might tend to
> > push the difficulty level too far in the other direction. Rewarding
> > creators of conditions that receive near-median bids, or that are used in
> > AE’s by the eventual winner are also possibilities.
> >
> 
> I rather like the idea of simply tossing the ones that are too darn hard.
> Penalizing authors of hard elements doesn't do anything to help the poor
> sod who ends up with the element: "Become the holder of all of Ackanomic's
> functional offices."  I realize that making it one man's decision as to
> what is or is not too hard has it's own problems, and I would prefer if it
> was a group of at least a few people.  Would prefer it, that is, if it
> wan't for the fact that the more people that get involved in running
> things, the longer it takes just to organize everything, and the fewer
> people who can actuallytry to meet their agendas.

Well, hearings are fairly simple. I'm certainly not suggesting an ad hoc 
committee. :-) And the bidding system may aid in showing which elements are 
impossible. I'm hesitant to rely on that too much in case people start taking 
that account into their bids. Any too difficult condition should be replaced 
by a null condition (or better yet, a silly but easy condition chosen by the 
HA-Harfer,) which is considered unbid upon, and its NE should be distributed 
at the end of bid counting to whoever has one NE spot remaining.

> A lot of these problems
> would go away if we simply allowed the secret agendas to run across cycles
> until someone has suceeded, or some set period of time ends.  We don't
> stop all of the G&Cs whenever a cycle ends, after all.
> 

True, but G&Cs have relatively small stakes. It is not considered a problem if 
a new player or one who enters late in the game is at a disadvantage or even 
if e is barred from entering. Such a circumstance would be a shame for what 
may become one of a very small number of viable methods for winning the cycle. 
I would support allowing players to keep one AE, but no more (possibly two in 
case a large (>=9) number of players are involved.) There is nothing to stop 
players from submitting a particular condition more than once if there is 
interest.

**two-star

> >
> > **two-star
> >
> 
>                                     - Vynd
> 
> [email-masked]

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:42:39 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: acka: proposals

> hey kids, i recently saw in the digest that while the bot is down, we
> send our votes to malenkai.  but where do we send the proposals? 
> malenkai also?  i don't want to send him a bunch of proposals if he's
> not supposed to get them, i doubt he needs any more acka mail than he
> already gets.

I'm the Promoter for now, so technically you should send them to me, but
hopefully breadbox will be Promoter Real Soon Now.  It might be a good
idea to wait until breadbox officially has the Acrobot up and running
before you sending out Proposals; Malenkai has requested nobody submit
non-essential Proposals, and at the very least we should find out how
breadbox feels about it before burdening him too much.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Bach:Brandenburg Concertos
Current Book--John A. Williams:Mothersill And The Foxes
Solid gold question mark twenty feet tall

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:47:17 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Nominations(was Re: Stuff)

> 1) Non-voting players can now become voting players.

> 2) The one proposal in the queue, 2276, most likely will
> fail due to quorum, based on the votes received.  We should try
> to clean up the officer stuff before its voting period ends, or
> its author should retract it.

Very well.  I hereby retract Proposal 2276.  Too bad, I wanted a Parade to
stick some Treasure clues into.  :-/

> 3) I am announcing my intent to resign as Tabulator, assuming
> breadbox becomes active, and volunteers.  I'm not sure how this
> smooth transition stuff really works, but I do the right
> actions to make it happen :)

I am announcing the beginning of a nomination for Tabulator.  I am also
announcing my intention to resign as Promoter, if I have not already done
so(I accidentally lost some mail while out of town yesterday; was reading
from someone else's program, and forgot to check "Leave Mail On Server" in
their setup), and if there is not already a nomination for Promoter
running, I announce one.

I also remind people that there are nominations for Map-Harfer(two-star,
this means you)and Registrar going on.  I should have a couple of new
players to announce tonight as default Acting Registrar(I mean, heck, why
not), and hopefully I won't screw anything up too badly.

This message is sent to acka-priv(if I remember to go change the headers
when I finish this), so reply to this message to volunteer.  Don't forget
to become Voting first!

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Bach:Brandenburg Concertos
Current Book--John A. Williams:Mothersill And The Foxes
Stupid == careful plots to assassinate the cemetery.  --billbill

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:50:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Acka: Inventoriness

> I have put up current blueprint and original blueprint pages at 
> http://www.cyberhighway.net/~munizao/acka/blueprints.html and
> http://www.cyberhighway.net/~munizao/acka/oldblueprints.html
> respectively.

I will link these off the new Official Ackanomic Page shortly.

> Currently these are just copies of /dev/joe's pages. If anyone knows 
> about changes to blueprints or new blueprints not shown there, please 
> tell me. The one thing I am concerned about is the Butler blueprint. 
> Does that still exist in its original form? I can't believe that nobody 
> has scammed off this yet. Also it needs I think the sentence "Raw 
> materials of 0 processing chips are required" should be appended to it, 
> whatever effect that may have, if it exists.

If Proposal 2262 did not fail quorum(depending on the pending CFJ), then
the Butler Blueprint should be at least partially fixed.  If you want to
scam off it, go ahead and build one.  :-)

> Azpiazu bless Cheez-Whiz

I do not believe that, as a non-Priest of the Church of Azpiazu, two-star
can validly state this.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Bach:Brandenburg Concertos
Current Book--John A. Williams:Mothersill And The Foxes
I didn't really die.  It was just a long night.

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:58:37 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Re: ackanomic digest V2 #252

> So as not to let that darling creation of snowgod's waste away,  I hereby
> request membership in the Ciult of the Markovian Dream,  in hopes to
> restore it to its former glory as a church.

Well, the Cult of the Markovian Dream has no official status, but if you
want to re-found it or something...  I wonder if I should change "Church"
to "Cult" on the PE page, or just delete it entirely...

> Also,  I am going over to Vynd's house,  dragging my monoploe behind me. 
> With eir help,  I hoist up and press the little red button...

breadbox and I are, I believe, still hovering over by the Ackanomic
Afterlife, if anyone wants to join us...

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Bach:Brandenburg Concertos
Current Book--John A. Williams:Mothersill And The Foxes
Be sure to evaluate the bird-hand/bush ratio.

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 01:21:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Voting

I am changing my status from non-voting to voting.  Again.

                                     - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:51:09 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Acting Registrarness (two-star)

It appears that, as President, and not having appointed anyone else, I am
Acting Registrar until someone else volunteers or something.  Or so I
gather from the fact that Mr. Ackley has forwarded several pieces of email
my way.  :-)  Oh, well, no problem, I can handle it.  So:

We have a new observer in Ackanomic; his name is Michael Fox, and his email
address is <[email-masked]>.

We also have a new player!  Here's how she answered the former Registrar's
questionnaire:

> Question #1 -
> What is you choice of an Ackanomic name?

Balsamic Dragon

> Question #2 -
> What is your real name?

Vivian Norwood

> Question #3 -
> Would you like to be a voting or a nonvoting player?

Voting, please

> Question #4 - The Market Research Question -
> Where did you find out about Ackanomic?

Yahoo search, but a friend of mine named Jack Zaientz got me into nomic.

Her email address is <[email-masked]>, and two-star has been chosen
(by Mr. Lunatic Fringe's non-patented non-random selection method; heck, I
don't even have the full mentor list yet)as her mentor.

I've sent her the welcome package, appropriately modified to fit our
changing times, and she'll be up on the web pages as soon as I do my
Financierly, Web-Harferly, and Scorekeeperly duties.  Please welcome her to
Ackanomic.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--The Band:Up On Cripple Creek
Current Book--John A. Williams:Mothersill And The Foxes
And if you say wash the rain, do you mean wash the pain from me?

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 00:19:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: [email-masked] (Aaron V. Humphrey)
Subject: Acka: Contract

As per the terms of the Beldin's Tailor Contract I created a while back, I
am giving Karma A$25 for having changed "loses" to "gains".  I am then
destroying the Contract.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Song In My Head--The Band:Up On Cripple Creek
Current Book--John A. Williams:Mothersill And The Foxes
I am you, and you are me, and we are all together in a Yellow Submarine.

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:18:40 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Politeness Moon

> A Politeness Moon has been called against Karma for the content
> requoted below.  The vaid responses are:

This is over.  It was voted not polite by a 5-1 vote.  Ironically,
the one player who voted polite (Whiz), was the player to whom the
message was directed.

Malenkai
Count Tabula

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:28:24 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Hall of Elders

I count 10 nominations for snowgod for the Hall of Elders.  Since
there are less than 10 active players now, as far as I can tell,
he is enshrined.  BTW, is the acting web-harfer keeping the HoE
current?

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:31:34 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: ackanomic digest V2 #252

> I seem to have lost track \of a few things,  so I now announce that I am
> (if I failed to do so earlier)  aiming my BWG Lazer at breadbox.

I think if you want it to have effect, you have to put fuel in it
too.

> Also,  I am going over to Vynd's house,  dragging my monoploe behind me.
> With eir help,  I hoist up and press the little red button...

This works.

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:41:15 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Active Players

I have the following as the list of active players:

breadbox
Rex Mundi
/dev/joe
Vynd
Malenkai
Alfvaen
two-star
Red Barn
mr cwm
Guy Fawkes

I have ThinMan's attempt as failing.

If anyone has a different list, please clarify.  The deadline to 
activate and keep your offices is 8/18 23:54, as I recall.

Malenkai
Speaker

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:43:37 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Chorg

I am reading the first page of my spell book of chorg.  It
vanishes in a pyrotechnic display which is otherwise too
mind-numingly complex to describe.

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 08:50:20 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Rules

Is anyone keeping changes to the rules?  I have all the info as
part of tracking the game state (but it is not very useable), but I
was wondering if anyone else, like the acting web-harfer, was doing
it.

Also, it seems that Whiz has no access to the rules (or the web).
Rather than mail 500K of rules, does someone have a better idea.
Of course, if there is 500K of content, we have little choice except
to repeal alot of the gizz (e.g. Synod ;-)).

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 06:00:42 -0700
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Subject: Acka: SBoC Random OC determination

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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 14
> #D 1
> #R 1
> #L 1
> #T Acka: SBoC Random OC determination
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> #C Player: Malenkai
> #C I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
> #C delivered from the spell book of chorg based on the following
> #C schedule:
> #C 1 - go fish
> #C 2 - map shard
> #C 3 - untouch me
> #C 4 - share my expenses
> #C 5 - share my income
> #C 6 - swinging sale
> #C 7 - tactical retreat
> #C 8 - paratroop
> #C 9 - foul fowl
> #C 10 - truthseeker
> #C 11 - fix my gadget
> #C 12 - scientist for a day
> #C 13 - art thief
> #C 14 - skeleton key

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 09:34:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Acting Registrarness (two-star)

On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Aaron V. Humphrey wrote:

> 
> We have a new observer in Ackanomic; his name is Michael Fox, and his email
> address is <[email-masked]>.
> 
> We also have a new player!  Here's how she answered the former Registrar's
> questionnaire:
> 
> > Question #1 -
> > What is you choice of an Ackanomic name?
> 
> Balsamic Dragon
> 
> > Question #2 -
> > What is your real name?
> 
> Vivian Norwood
> 
> 
> I've sent her the welcome package, appropriately modified to fit our
> changing times, and she'll be up on the web pages as soon as I do my
> Financierly, Web-Harferly, and Scorekeeperly duties.  Please welcome her to
> Ackanomic.
> 

Welcome Balsamic Dragon.  Welcome Michael Fox!  Welcome to all the other
new players he last few days that I never got around to saying welcome to!
I thought it might be nice of me to explain a few things to y'all.  Right
now, the gme is going a little, heck, a lot slow.  There's actually a fair
amount of work involved in making things here run smoothly, work
associated with various rule-defined offices.  recently, a lot of those
offices were vacated, and it's been a bit of a struggle to get new people
into the positions and ready to roll.  So if you've been wondering...
"gee, so Ackanomic is a bunch of people who send 15 or 20 emails to each
other every day, how... boring..." the answer is no.  We're a bunch of
people who send a hundred or so messages to each other every day, and they
tend to be a little more exciting.  So just hang on, we're really much
cooler than this, honest!  Also, as an official Crazy-French Scotsman of
Ackanomic, let me encourage you all not to read the rules, and then
complain bitterly about anything that happens to you, perhaps even lashin
out at everyone nearby.  Finally, in an attempt to test our new acting
Registrar, I am making it known that I would like to be added to the list
of mentors, heaven help us all.

                                - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 09:46:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CSR 118

The following is the text of CSR 188, the second and hopefuly last of my
CSRs to patch the People's Council for Internomic.

Ammend Rule 419.2 by adding the following text to the end of the rule:

{{The current members of the People's Council for Internomic are those
players who have declared in a public message that they are joining the
People's Council for Internomic, or words to that effect, and only those
players.}}

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 07:14:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Rules

> Is anyone keeping changes to the rules?  I have all the info as part
> of tracking the game state (but it is not very useable), but I was
> wondering if anyone else, like the acting web-harfer, was doing it.

It is rather strange that, with all these Harfers, there is no
official Rule-Harfer. I think that this job traditionally fell to the
Speaker, but when /dev/joe became the Web-Harfer (during the previous
mass-transition), the job sort of wound up with him.

I have already volunteered to be the Assistant Web-Harfer in charge of
the Proposal Archive (it makes sense for the Promoter to do this,
after all), so I have a feeling (deep breath) that I will also wind up
becoming the Rule-Harfer.

> Also, it seems that Whiz has no access to the rules (or the web).
> Rather than mail 500K of rules, does someone have a better idea.

FTP, perhaps? If email is all Whiz has, then that's what we'll have to
use.

After gzipping and uuencoding, the rules should be under 200K....

breadbox

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 10:36:43 -0400
From: jordan james <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: acka: proposals

- -----Original Message-----
From:	Aaron V. Humphrey [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Saturday, August 16, 1997 12:43 AM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Re: acka: proposals

It might be a good
idea to wait until breadbox officially has the Acrobot up and running
before you sending out Proposals; Malenkai has requested nobody submit
non-essential Proposals, and at the very least we should find out how
breadbox feels about it before burdening him too much.
Karma sez- How convenient that I have the Magic potato at this time
This is putting piracy back in conspiracy (disgruntled)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Bach:Brandenburg Concertos
Current Book--John A. Williams:Mothersill And The Foxes
Solid gold question mark twenty feet tall

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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 10:42:00 -0400
From: jordan james <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: ackanomic digest V2 #252

- -----Original Message-----
From:	Aaron V. Humphrey [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Saturday, August 16, 1997 12:59 AM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Re: ackanomic digest V2 #252

(snip)
breadbox and I are, I believe, still hovering over by the Ackanomic
Afterlife, if anyone wants to join us...
Karma sez- Hell! Why not vg has eveything under control with his Monopole and I've accepted the futility of trying to reattach it myself

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/alfvaen/ )
Current Album--Bach:Brandenburg Concertos
Current Book--John A. Williams:Mothersill And The Foxes
Be sure to evaluate the bird-hand/bush ratio.

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