Subject: Ackanomic Digest V2 #195
From: [email-masked] (Ackanomic Digest)
To: ackanomic-digest

Ackanomic Digest         Monday, July 14 1997         Volume 02 : Number 195

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:32:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: acka: Synod

> RexBank is buying a seat in the synod. This costs 50 + 1x5 = 55 A$
> #award RexBank: -55 A$: buying Synod seat.

Actually, the money goes to the Synod.
#award Synod: +55 A$: seat purchased by rexbank

Look, profits! :-)

It is interesting to note that the synod should never have to take in
negative "profit-sharing" money from the members, because delegates
can always vacate their seats in order to throw the synod out of session
if that is going to happen.  Provided the delegates have been paying
attention to finances, of course.

Assuming the bugs (real or imagined) are fixed, the Synod _could_ be an
interesting thing to watch, but I don't see it ever being anything that
will remotely help simulate an economy.  

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:47:04 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Digestion II

(Niccolo Flychuck wrote, in response to Ben):
> Note that you will some source of income. Chess pieces cost A$. You get
> five three ones, and you acquire more by Capturing them.

("three"->"free"?)  Hmmm...is there a way for a non-voting chess-player to
get money just from playing chess?  Maybe some of our tax-shelter people
should make a donation.  :-)

(Calvin N Hobbes wrote):

> I will be going on vacation from Monday 14th of July at 0000 hours until
> Thursday 7th of August at 0000 hours.

Happy Bastille Day, CnH!  :-)

> While not yet on vacation, I give the monopole back to Alfvaen.

I ack this, if I am in time.  Hopefully, in the next few days, I will know
more about the status of Terranet and whether or not I will continue to be
on this account, or what.  I look forward to _knowing_, at least...

Oh, yes, by the way, today is my birthday.  Happy birthday to me...  Where
did that birthday list get to, ThinMan?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--Nik Kershaw:Radio Musicola
Current Book--Heather Spears:The Taming
Bullets bounce off me like raisins off an Oldsmobile!

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:05:32 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Digestion III

(Vynd wrote, in response to Dread Pirate Roberts):
> Ah, a kindred soul.  You're wrong that everyone else around here
> understands things like the parade, legacy, etc.  Many of us, perhaps even
> most of us, haven't the faintest idea what is going on with that stuff.
> Don't feel bad if you can't figure out have to go after some (most) of the
> treasures, because you don't understand them, you aren't alone.  I will
> say that many of the maps, especialy the maps by people who are really big
> on treasures, tend to involve rather difficult stuff like serious
> encryption.  A lot of the time the hard part to finding a treasure here
> isn't fullfiling the conditions of the map, it's figuring out what the map
> says in the first place.

I do realize that many of the players aren't as interested in the treasure
maps, but many are more interested in Party Chess than I am, or loophole
surfing, or Internomic, or what-have-you.  I confess to enjoying a good
decryption...

What we need are some good ideas for maps where the conditions are easily
discovered, but not easily attained.

(Ben wrote):
> hi, i'm ben good, i recently registered for ackanomic.  my mentor is
> Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>, i'm not sure if he has a
> different acka name or not.

I do tend to go by Alfvaen, here and elsewhere...

> i noticed in the digest that people were wondering if i was officially a
> player yet, since i had yet to declare an acka name.  so i hereby
> declare my acka name to be ben (w/o the good (i hate my last name), sort
> of like prince or madonna).  

All lowercase?  :-)

> if i decide to buy a swinger's office, do i talk to anyone in
> particular?  who approves the sale and sets the cost?  do i officially
> have any A$ to my name yet?

All new players get a sum of A$ equal to the average A$ total of all extant
players, or something like that.  I think as far as the actual act of
buying it goes, the cost is set by the number of swingers active(as Niccolo
Flychuck has already stated), but apart from that I think you can buy it by
just stating that you are paying that much money for it.  Oh, yes, and
naming it too.

(Since Capital Swinger offices are tradeable, it is possible to obtain
existing ones from people that have them, by other means; I seem to recall
that the one Niccolo Flychuck has right now was buried for some period of
time...)

(Niccolo Flychuck wrote):
> The only conclusion I can draw from this, combined with the fact that
> hardly any Internomic proposals were made recently, is that all of those
> players, with the possible exception of the Senators, have little or no
> interest in Internomic.

I confess to having little or no interest in it myself, and I have looked
at the pages once or twice.  It just doesn't strike me as inherently
interesting.  Maybe that's why I'm in Ackanomic as opposed to something
newer...

(Malenkai wrote):
> Alfvaen has found the Snail Shell #transfer buried,snail shell : alfvaen

Let anyone else try to outscore me on music trivia questions...:-)

> He scored 7 points.  Voting Gnome's entry scored 4 points.  The map
> is after Alfvaen's answers.  Answers in [] are songs I know that may
> fit the answer.
> 
> > Antimatter is is cell 1000000000000, its walls are green.
> 
> Well, it's a bit big for the Barenaked Ladies, and the closest thing I can
> think of is "How To Be A Millionaire" by ABC, which is probably not it.
> 
> [David Bowie: Panic in Detroit]

Haven't heard that one; what album is it from?  His newest one?

> > Guy Fawkes is in cell 4545, its walls are green.
> 
> Zager & Evans: In The Year 2525

I always liked this song, but don't happen to have it in my collection
yet.

> > Rex Mundi is in cell 96, its walls are green.
> 
> ? & The Mysterians: 96 Tears

(Also covered more recently by The Stranglers, and before them by The
Residents, though theirs is a bit more twisted.)

> > Robert Sevin is in cell 82, its walls are harf.[Asia: Heat of the Moment]

Ah, okay.  Should've known that one.  (I know three or four with "84" in
them...)

> > two star is in cell 66, its walls are wall-coloured.
> 
> Not a clue.  (I know there's a "Route 66" song,
> [Depeche Mode: Route 66]

This is definitely from their new album, because I have all their other
ones and it's not on any of those.

> 7) An extra point is awarded for providing *both* "Bedbugs and Ballyhoo"/
> "Echo and the Bunnymen" for "That's the way the bee bumbles".

Missed this entirely.  (But see my tagline at the bottom of this
message...)

(Mohammed, as he was then known, wrote):
> 	Bah.  Nobody wants the job.
> 	So let's do process of elimination, eh?
> 
> Malenkai, Robert Sevin, Thinman, /dev/joe, Vynd, breadbox, and I are
> ineligible because of offices already held.  This is a shame because I
> think Vynd is the best fit for the office under the circumstances.

> Red Barn, Ackers, fnord, Antimatter, Carsesrac are on the CFJ
> Ineligibility list and would thus probably be inappropriate.

> Ben has no interest or time for the job, and mr cwm just resigned from
> it.  Atilla the Pun, AZTEC GOD, Chalmers, Darth Vader, Joon, Karma,
> Lipid, Rex Mundi, Sammy, and Techno are all either too new or too
> quiet.  (No offense.)

> This leaves seven candidates, all involved and competent (IMHO
> anyway).  The question is, who has the most time.  Hmm.

I don't know if I'd be a good candidate either.  Although I do have loads
of time, in general.  But I'd like to see a few more CFJs(and see fewer of
them overturned...:-)before trying anything like Justice.  Maybe I should
pay for the Purple Robe of Justice or something.

(Chaos, then known as Mohammed, wrote):
> I am changing my name from Mohammed to Chaos.

Any particular reason?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--Milli Vanilli:All Or Nothing
Current Book--Heather Spears:The Taming
Kangaroo and chipmunks...bedbugs and ballyhoo

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:26:18 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: Synod

Welcome aboard?

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Gavin Doig wrote:

> RexBank is buying a seat in the synod. This costs 50 + 1x5 = 55 A$
> #award RexBank: -55 A$: buying Synod seat.
> Approved by me.
> By my count RexBank now has 514 A$, and 100 PFRex Mundi.
> 
> RexBank is appointing Rex Mundi as the Trade Delegate, and Rex Mundi is
> approving his appointment.
> 
> Rex Mundi.
> 
> ------------------------------
>

How's that for lack of interest?

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:23:26 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: RFC for Internomic voting (was: P2205 rejected)

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Brian Raiter wrote:

> > In that case, let me ask you this. Would you support a proposal that
> > would retain the same or lower level of simplicity - basically, have
> > the entire population of Ackanomic vote on Internomic proposals.
> 
> I would.
> 
> In fact, consider the following to be an RFC.
> 
> 
>  {{[This may look complicated, but the gist of it is simply this:
>  when Ackanomic has to vote in Internomic, a proposal is created and
>  the players vote. And if for some reason that doesn't work, then
>  the Senate is calledupon to reach a decision. Everything else is
>  just handling special cases for when that procedure fails.]}}
> 

Except that  there may be more than two possible ways to vote. In fact, it
is already possible to abstain. The Senate would be a good fallback.
I was thinking of doing it outside the proposal queue.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:19:13 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  P2205 rejected (Greater Internomic Interface)

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Malenkai wrote:

> >  In that case, let me ask you this. Would you support  a proposal that
> > would retain the same or lower level of simplicity - basically, have the
> > entire population of Ackanomic vote on Internomic proposals.
> 
> I would like that each internomic proposal goes through the acka
> proposal queue, but found that that has some problems, such as what
> if the matter up for vote is tri-state, or what about the logistics
The proposal queue is problematic

> of submitting the proposal in the first place; it should not be
> a scoring situation for the Liaison.  Because of these problems, I
> have shied away from it.
> 
> I think Vynd had some good ideas, though.
Me too.

Niccolo Flychuck

> 
> Malenkai
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:43:37 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Treasure.   

The native are getting restless.  Tommorow I have some free time and will
anbnounmce the start of the treasure hunt.  Sorry for any delay.  Also, did
anyone recieve the last GAD results?  I have a feeling I sent them to my
grandma or something.

Mr. Lunatic Fringe

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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:51:31 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Synod 

The synod has A$610 with rexbanks purchase and /dev/joe's correction
(thanks dev)

Mr. Fringe

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:24:11 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Digestion III

> > [David Bowie: Panic in Detroit]
> 
> Haven't heard that one; what album is it from?  His newest one?

As far as I know, its from the 70s.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:09:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Monopole (CnH)

On Sat, 12 Jul 1997, Malenkai wrote:

>CnH wrote:
>> I will go from house to house, pointing the gizmo and pressing the buttons,
>> in order, of the following houses:
>
>You need permission from the owners to go to these houses (perhaps they
>*want* their houses to dangle), and need suitable bravado when using
>the Monopole.

I permit CnH to approach or enter the Revolving Shed, as necessary, in his
attempt to work the Monopole's magic, and thank him for doing so.

- -mr cwm

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:08:24 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 428 (ThinMan)

AZTEC G0D did not respond.  CFJ 428 is assigned to ThinMan.

Clerk of the Courts
- ------------------------------------------------------------------

Call For Judgment 428
  Subject: Conventional English Morphology V
Initiator: breadbox
    Judge: AZTEC G0D (did not respond)
2nd Judge: ThinMan (assigned Jul 14, 1997, 8:08h EDT)
Judgement:

Statement:

The trinket "Malenkai-run Office", created by breadbox, is a Forgery.

breadbox's Reasoning:

Malenkai is the name of a player. The real question, however, is
whether the name is still a separate word in the eyes of Rule 506
when it is connected to an adjective by a hyphen.

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:36:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 429 (mr cwm)

I accept, and will get right on this.  (Is it important?)

- -mr cwm

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Malenkai wrote:

>mr cwm has been picked.
>
>Clerk of the Courts
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Call For Judgment 429
>  Subject: Similarity
>Initiator: Malenkai
>    Judge: mr cwm (selected Jul 13, 1997, 19:10h EDT)
>Judgement:
>
>Statement:
>
>The H similarity of They Might be Slumbering Giants and They Might be
>Slumbering Giants is 100.
>
>Malenkai's Reasoning:
>
>Similarity is described by rule 1003, section 4.
>

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:51:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Digestion III

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Alfvaen wrote:

>> > two star is in cell 66, its walls are wall-coloured.
>> 
>> Not a clue.  (I know there's a "Route 66" song,
>> [Depeche Mode: Route 66]

Does this strike anyone else as similar to [The Supremes:  Yesterday]? I
mean, Route 66 has to be 40 years old (the song, not the road).  I,
personally, associate it with The Rolling Stones, but I heard some light
jazz version once which I'm sure is older and more ... closely identified
with the artist. 

- -mr cwm

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:19:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  Ex-odo

To:   Ackanomians
From: mr cwm

By this message and R1301/14(7c), I leave the Church of Odo on the
Wormhole.  And, in passing, encourage those who have not already made up
their minds to vote YES on P2220 to repeal the Synod.

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:41:08 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Digestion II

Alfvaen wrote:

> Oh, yes, by the way, today is my birthday.  Happy birthday to me...
> Where
> did that birthday list get to, ThinMan?
> 
Happy birthday, Alfvaen.  Sorry about that list; here it is:

Acka Birthdays:

Robert Sevin		January 12 (1977)
/dev/joe		January 19 (1972)
mr cwm			February 1 (1962)
*You Can Call Me Al	February 13 (1979)
Malenkai		February 22 (1965)
Techno			April 9 (1969)
Mr. Lunatic Fringe	April 20 (1974)
Voting Gnome		May 1 (1956)
Antimatter		May 19 (1980)
*Bascule		June 11 (1970)
Mohammed		June 13 (1977)
two-star		July 2 (1974)
Alfvaen		July 14 (1971; a holiday in France)
Niccolo Flychuck	July 19 (1969)
breadbox		August 23 (1966)
ThinMan		August 28 (1968)
Red Barn		December 13 (1980; Saturday, not Friday)

Former players are marked with an asterisk.  I will still accept any
and all birthday submissions and add them to the list.  There is no
requirement that anyone make any such submission.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:45:59 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: CFJ 428 (ThinMan)

The Clerk of the Courts wrote:

> AZTEC G0D did not respond.  CFJ 428 is assigned to ThinMan.
> 
I accept this CFJ.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:13:12 +0100
From: "Gavin Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Digestion III

> > > [David Bowie: Panic in Detroit]
> > 
> > Haven't heard that one; what album is it from?  His newest one?
> 
> As far as I know, its from the 70s.
> 
> Malenkai

It's on Aladdin Sane, from 1973.

Rex Mundi.

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Date: 14 Jul 1997 12:32:18 CST/CDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: Trinket creation 

I am creating a Trinket, value A$1, called Jephthah's Pride.  It is a
cheap tin miniature of a rather impressive classical bronze, though
portraying the rather disturbing subject matter of a young girl lying on
an altar with her throat slit.

#trinket Guy Fawkes: Jephthath's Pride: 1

I offer /dev/joe Jephthah's Pride in exchange for the Collossus of
Sardia, an Otzma Card type Go Fish, a Plunky Monkey Wrench, a Scroll of
Crumble, and A$250.

Guy Fawkes

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:30:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 2220

> I'll pay A$30 for exclusive rights to the copy.  Ack this and the
> money is transferred, then e-mail it to me :)
	Sold.

#transfer malenkai, chaos:  30 A$

- -- 
Chaos
For the hell of it, she left him for a singing flashy fool from Mexico.

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:31:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Trinket creation

Um, what about the Otzma Card to fix my gadget?

- -- 
Chaos
A horde of teachers and a well-mannered baker barely escaped from a pair
of Americans.

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Date: 14 Jul 1997 12:44:48 CST/CDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Supreme Court Appointment 

If confirmed by the Senate, I would be omre than willing to accept this
awesome duty and honor.  Despite my currently limited on-line time,
CFJ's are among my favorite parts of the game, and I would appreciate
the chance to serve Acka in this capacity.

Guy Fawkes

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Date: 14 Jul 1997 12:47:28 CST/CDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: CFJ 430 (Guy Fawkes) 

I accept.
GF

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Date: 14 Jul 1997 12:50:10 CST/CDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: offer 

I am offering Chaos an Otzma Card type Fix My Gadget as a gift.

Guy Fawkes

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:46:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Odo petition

To:   Ackanomians
From: mr cwm

Apparently, I am experiencing one of those crises in which the spirit of
one's Church entangles messily with its manifestations.  At the risk of
appearing hopelessly flighty, I humbly petition for reinstatement as a
member of the Church of Odo on the Wormhole. 

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:47:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: offer

On 14 Jul 1997 [email-masked] wrote:
> I am offering Chaos an Otzma Card type Fix My Gadget as a gift.
	I accept this trade.  I am playing my newly acquired Fix My
Gadget card to fix my Orbital Mind Control Laser.

- -- 
Chaos
Otzma!  And it is done.

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:48:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: trinket conversion

I am converting the trinket Colossus of Sardia to A$.

#award /dev/joe: -Colossus of Sardia, +900 A$: conversion

/dev/joe
Not waiting around to see how they're going to try to un-shelter me.

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:54:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Trinket creation

> I offer /dev/joe Jephthah's Pride in exchange for the Collossus of
> Sardia, an Otzma Card type Go Fish, a Plunky Monkey Wrench, a Scroll of
> Crumble, and A$250.
	Oh my, this is too good to pass up.
	I am zapping /dev/joe with my Orbital Mind Control Laser for
the trade offer quoted above.
	*zot*

- -- 
Chaos
ensuing

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:05:34 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Trinket creation

Chaos wrote:

> > I offer /dev/joe Jephthah's Pride in exchange for the Collossus of
> > Sardia, an Otzma Card type Go Fish, a Plunky Monkey Wrench, a Scroll
> of
> > Crumble, and A$250.
> 
> 	Oh my, this is too good to pass up.
> 	I am zapping /dev/joe with my Orbital Mind Control Laser for
> the trade offer quoted above.
> 	*zot*
> 
No doubt /dev/joe will soon point this out, but at best this action
has no effect or doesn't happen.  It is slightly possible, however,
that it is a Crime, or the attempt is a Crime.  Not only is /dev/joe
Sheltered (in the Ackanomic Afterlife), but he also cannot legally
accept the quoted trade, as he no longer possesses the Collossus of
Sardia.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:11:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Trinket creation

> > Sardia, an Otzma Card type Go Fish, a Plunky Monkey Wrench, a Scroll of
> > Crumble, and A$250.
> 	Oh my, this is too good to pass up.
> 	I am zapping /dev/joe with my Orbital Mind Control Laser for
> the trade offer quoted above.
	Well, this doesn't work as the trade offer died when /dev/joe
convered Colossous to cash, and /dev/joe is in the Afterlife anyway
(and thus Sheltered.)
	Hmm.
	Guess I'll have to resort to... er, something else.  :o)

- -- 
Chaos
thwarted

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:21:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: offer

Mohammed/Chaos wrote:
> On 14 Jul 1997 [email-masked] wrote:
> > I am offering Chaos an Otzma Card type Fix My Gadget as a gift.
> 	I accept this trade.  I am playing my newly acquired Fix My
> Gadget card to fix my Orbital Mind Control Laser.

I am using my Go Fish otzma card to counter this Fix My Gadget card.

/dev/joe
Have we ever seen one of these Go Fish cards used before?

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:22:47 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: offer

/dev/joe wrote:

> I am using my Go Fish otzma card to counter this Fix My Gadget card.
> 
> /dev/joe
> Have we ever seen one of these Go Fish cards used before?
> 
Not to my knowledge.  Cool.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:57:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Entity questions

I was browsing the web pages (somewhat appropriately, I guess) and have a
couple of questions.  I see I have a Badge of Many Thanks.  What is that?
And I see the number of Purple Robes of Justice in existance is zero.  Why
is that?

- -mr cwm

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:08:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Entity questions

> I was browsing the web pages (somewhat appropriately, I guess) and have a
> couple of questions.  I see I have a Badge of Many Thanks.  What is that?
> And I see the number of Purple Robes of Justice in existance is zero.  Why
> is that?

The Badges of Many Thanks came from one of those Rules Consisting Entirely
of {{Double-Bracketed}} Text -- Rule 1331, from Proposal 1331, to be
specific.

The number of Purple Robes of Justice shown on the PE page is zero, due to
the one Purple Robe of Justice being unowned, since Bascule left the game
while owning it.  It can be purchased by any player for A$182.

/dev/joe

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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:07:41 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Odo petition (fwd)

As Founder of the Church of Odo on the Wormhole I accept mr cwm as a
member of the Church.

Niccolo Flychuck

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, mr cwm wrote:

> Apparently, I am experiencing one of those crises in which the spirit of
> one's Church entangles messily with its manifestations.  At the risk of
> appearing hopelessly flighty, I humbly petition for reinstatement as a
> member of the Church of Odo on the Wormhole. 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:09:39 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: (Niccolo Flychuck) Alfvaen vs. /dev/joe

Accroding to my calculations, This Duel  is not over yet, let the next
round begin, Alfaven starting

On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> Move 9 (C):
> 
>       BBAACC
>      cBaaAbC
>      ccaCbbA
>        bCCAA
>        bb
> 
> Well, that's a quick round.  1 b tromino surrounded.
> 
> /dev/joe
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:36:52 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe

I was wandering around my evil twin's house earlier today, admiring
the furnishings, and I happened to put my hand in my pocket, where
to my surprise I found a battered, red and blue matchbox with which I
have some familiarity.  I withdrew it and slid it open, revealing, as
I expected, Phoebe, the nanotech steel flea.

"Nice toga, ThinMan," Phoebe said.

"Really?" I replied.  "Thanks.  But you have to give snow -- er --
Nach -- er... umm... -- master of lunar fungus!  Yeah, that's sounds
mostly right.  Anyway, give him the credit; he designed and made it."

"Perhaps I will.  But that's not what I want to talk to you about."
Phoebe jumped up to my shoulder, then stood in my ear to whisper.  I
can't tell you everything she said, but here are a few snippets:

"Acka is less stable than you might think."  (admonitory)
"When you least expect it, expect it."  (very hushed)
"Cooperation is the key.  Give and take."  (advisory)
"Definately the fourth Doctor."  (emphatic)
"I _have_ seen a talking claw."  (amused)

There was more, but it was mostly idle chit chat, catching up on old
times and the like.  When we were done, I went and his Phoebe's
matchbox in the very last place anyone would look.  Or the last place
I'd look, at least.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:46:36 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Dangling

Alfvaen wrote:

[I wrote:]
> > My dear Alfvaen, at your convenience, please feel free to come by
> the
> > Ackanomic House of Pancakes.  You'll have to climb down the rope
> ladder
> > to get in, but hopefully that's just temporary.  Be sure to bring
> your
> > Monopole, and consider yourself invited to a lovely pancake and
> > sausage dinner.  While you're here, perhaps we can try to get the
> > place back down to the ground.
> 
> Why, sure!  I'll head over to the AHoP and, having wings, waft gently
> down
> to the tether.
> 
> Let's see, now how does this Gravitational Monopole work again?  Oh,
> yes.
> It must work like this.  Just let me attach it to the house here...
> Okay.
> Now I just have to press this red button.  Don't worry, I'm the
> AckaPhysicist, of course I know how to work this thing!
> 
I would like to express a belated thanks to our esteemed and highly
competent Ackaphysicist, Alphvaen.  I have become rather attached to
the AHOP, and I would prefer that it stay comparably attached to the
ground.

I am, indeed, serving a pancake and sausage dinner, although at this
point it is in absentia.  In fact, I have been serving it for the
better part of a week.  Kind of an exaggerated Roman theme.  By the
way, would you care for an after dinner mint?  It's only wafer thin.

ThinMan

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:03:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: CFCJ 138 (AZTEC G0D) 

I decline cfcj 138

AZTEC GOD

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:04:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 428 (AZTEC G0D) 

I decline cfj 428

AZTEC GOD

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:07:01 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe (fnord)

Phoebe has been found by fnord.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:11:11 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFCJ 138 (Guy Fawkes)

Guy Fawkes has been selected.

Clerk of the Courts
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Call for Criminal Judgement 138
  Subject: Big Tenant
Initiator: Mohammed
    Judge: AZTEC G0D (declined)
2nd Judge: Guy Fawkes (selected Jul 14, 1997, 19:10h EDT)
Judgement:

Statement:

Robert Sevin has committed a Crime.

Mohammed's Reasoning:

Rule 1009 (Big Tents and Rewarding Party Unity) says:

> An Organization that has a Big Tent is called a Political Party. It
> is a Crime to be a member of more than one Political Party at once.

Robert Sevin is a member of both Metamorph and Harf, two Organizations
each of which owns a Big Tent.

Recommended Penalty:

A DEDUCTION of 10,000,000 points.

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:21:08 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Church and Synod 

It's not too often that mr cwm and I come down on different sides of an
important issue, but I have to disagree with him on the issue of synod
complexity.  It is my opinion that the synod does not add any burden of
complexity to any players other than those who participate in it, and thus
is not part of the problem facing ackanomic (I think we still both agree on
the larger problem --complexity).  I am sorry to see him leave the Church
of Odo, but hope to work with him towards reducing the burden of complexity
in the future.

Mr. Lunatic Fringe
complex

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:30:34 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Odo petition 

>To:   Ackanomians
>From: mr cwm
>
>Apparently, I am experiencing one of those crises in which the spirit of
>one's Church entangles messily with its manifestations.  At the risk of
>appearing hopelessly flighty, I humbly petition for reinstatement as a
>member of the Church of Odo on the Wormhole.

As a former member of Munchken Haven (an entirely flighty party), and a
current member of Odo, I announce my support for this action.

Mr. Lunatic Fringe

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:33:19 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Entity questions 

>I was browsing the web pages (somewhat appropriately, I guess) and have a
>couple of questions.  I see I have a Badge of Many Thanks.

Brinjal created these long long agao with a {{}} proposal.  One was given
to each functional officer.  At the time I was only Acting so I didn't get
one, but you and a few other prople did.

>And I see the number of Purple Robes of Justice in existance is zero.  Why
>is that?
>
>
Uh, god question.

Mr. Fringe
TMBSG

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:35:04 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Phoebe 

>I was wandering around my evil twin's house earlier today, admiring
>the furnishings, and I happened to put my hand in my pocket, where
>to my surprise I found a battered, red and blue matchbox with which I
>have some familiarity.  I withdrew it and slid it open, revealing, as
>I expected, Phoebe, the nanotech steel flea.
>
>"Nice toga, ThinMan," Phoebe said.
>
>"Really?" I replied.  "Thanks.  But you have to give snow -- er --
>Nach -- er... umm... -- master of lunar fungus!  Yeah, that's sounds
>mostly right.  Anyway, give him the credit; he designed and made it."
>
>"Perhaps I will.  But that's not what I want to talk to you about."
>Phoebe jumped up to my shoulder, then stood in my ear to whisper.  I
>can't tell you everything she said, but here are a few snippets:
>
>"Acka is less stable than you might think."  (admonitory)
>"When you least expect it, expect it."  (very hushed)
>"Cooperation is the key.  Give and take."  (advisory)
>"Definately the fourth Doctor."  (emphatic)
>"I _have_ seen a talking claw."  (amused)
>
>There was more, but it was mostly idle chit chat, catching up on old
>times and the like.  When we were done, I went and his Phoebe's
>matchbox in the very last place anyone would look.  Or the last place
>I'd look, at least.
>
>ThinMan

This, my evil twin, is Silver Moon Quality material. Kudos.

Mr. Lunar Fungus

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:55:38 -0700
From: Hank Turowski <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: A House Warming Party!

I would like to take a moment to announce a house warming part this week at
my home, the Pirate Ship Revenge.  The festivities will begin this Thursday
the 17th of July at 1pm Ackanomic time, and run well into the night.
Please RSVP before midnight Wednesday by posting a public message stating
that you will be attending.  Anyone who RSVP's in time has my permission to
come aboard for the party.  In addition to chips and rum, all party goers
will receive a small gift (a trinket I have not yet finished designing)
worth A$5 or so.  Housewarming gifts will be greatfully accepted, but in no
way required.

Also, I will award a commemorative Prosthetic Forehead to whoever recites
the best original Limerick while attending my party.  Winner will by chosen
by a popular vote, all guests are welcome to enter the contest and vote
with the condition you may not vote for your own poem.  Voting will be done
via private email to me, one vote per guest.

Hope to see you all there!
Dread Pirate Roberts
- ----
Hank Turowski               Edmark, an IBM Company  C Code                 
[email-masked]            Redmond, WA             C Code Run             
[email-masked]  (206) 556-3651          Run Code Run... PLEASE!

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:03:08 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Church and Synod

> It is my opinion that the synod does not add any burden of
> complexity to any players other than those who participate in it, and thus
> is not part of the problem facing ackanomic

I have to disagree with this stated opinion.  /dev/joe, not a delegate,
has had to spend the time to correctly determine the Synod's assets, and
were it not for /dev/joe tracking of organizational membership as well,
it would be difficult to perform those and other calculations required
by the rule.  Without looking at anything /dev/joe has harfed, try to
determine some of these parameters and restrictions of the rule yourself
[plural you].  While it may be argued that someone *must* step in and
harf these things, who *is* going to?  If they become unnecessary, no one
has to.

Moreover, despite allegations to the contrary, the Speaker *has* had to
spend a decent amount of time checking the rule against the game state,
but I am not at liberty to discuss that in detail yet ;-()  I realise some
apparently assume this, and other, rules are no work for the Speaker, but
they often are, you just don't see the work, because it *fails* to generate
a dreaded 'you cannot do that post'. :) This is not a complaint, but a
fact.  The argument stems not from this work, but from my claim of its 
unnecessity, and my unclarity as to who will do in next month.

I have nothing personal against the author of the rule, the supporters of
the rule, etc.  My arguments are based partly on the fact that the player
who harfs all of this information that we take for granted will be gone
soon.  I am trying to propose amendments that will make the rules simpler
for the rest of us when this happens, and choosing rules that can be 
removed without loss of functionality.  For example, a Synod-like structure
can occur informally amongst any organizations who wish to do so without
the rule's mandated calculations and assumed a priori knowledge and
overhead.  For example: 

Organization A and B agree to pool some assets.  Founder A and B sign a
contract.  A and B split the profits 50/50 every fortnight, and do with
them what they wish.  Complexity, ratios based on membersip, etc, added 
as fun requirements and capacity to do work become available.

I have seen some rather disturbing content in print on various lists about
proposal 2220, things alleging that proposal 2220 is "deceptively titled",
(it is not; it will simplify the game), and rationale for keeping the
rule drawn 100% from the fact that "I'm sick of rules being repealed 
because Malenkai doesn't like them", in a non-humorous, non-smiley faced
context, and without explanation or apology after I have voiced my
distaste for such thought guiding game actions and being put in front of
my face.

For me, its not the end of the world if proposal 2220 fails, but it is the
end of the world if a simple proposal which I, in my heart, believe will
make the game easier to play when /dev/joe leaves generates such hateful,
mean-spirited content.  I almost left the game when I read that message;
to echo Niccolo's thoughts when someome proposed the repeal of Party
Chess -- 'I'm not sure I wish to remain in this community any longer'.

I have tried to be forthright, objective, and debate proposal 2220 with
class.  I feel I have done so; (I feel Niccolo has done so), and hope I
have stated the reasons why I think Synod should be repealed in a clear
manner.  I'm not asking you to agree with those reasons, but I am asking 
you to vote on proposal 2220 based on the Synod's merits and failings,
and the game state, and the fun it is, not based on the fact that Malenkai,
and not Jane Curtin or Uncle Wille, wrote proposal 2220.

Please don't make this a personal issue.  Its not with me.  I have stated
clearly, in non-personal terms, my reasons for proposing to repeal the
Synod.  Vote your conscience on the rule, not because *I* wish to see
it repealed.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:16:26 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: A House Warming Party!

> I would like to take a moment to announce a house warming part this week at
> my home, the Pirate Ship Revenge.  The festivities will begin this Thursday
> the 17th of July at 1pm Ackanomic time, and run well into the night.
> Please RSVP before midnight Wednesday by posting a public message stating
> that you will be attending.  

I'll be there, but I'd like to come and go in one message, if you don't
mind the eat-and-run type ;-).

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:39:00 -0700
From: Hank Turowski <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: A House Warming Party!

At 10:16 PM 7/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> I would like to take a moment to announce a house warming part this week at
>> my home, the Pirate Ship Revenge.  The festivities will begin this Thursday
>> the 17th of July at 1pm Ackanomic time, and run well into the night.
>> Please RSVP before midnight Wednesday by posting a public message stating
>> that you will be attending.  
>
>I'll be there, but I'd like to come and go in one message, if you don't
>mind the eat-and-run type ;-).
>
>Malenkai
>

I don't mind at all.  But be sure to include your limerick in that one
message  if you intend to enter the contest, as they must be recited AT the
party.

Dread Pirate Roberts
- ----
Hank Turowski               Edmark, an IBM Company  C Code                 
[email-masked]            Redmond, WA             C Code Run             
[email-masked]  (206) 556-3651          Run Code Run... PLEASE!

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