Subject: Ackanomic Digest V2 #159
From: [email-masked] (Ackanomic Digest)
To: ackanomic-digest

Ackanomic Digest         Monday, June 23 1997         Volume 02 : Number 159

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:25:32 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Ackanomic: Worthless Trinket

> > I would like to lodge a complaint against the lame, inane, and generally
> > useless trinket "Military lasers", created today by the player Malenkai.
> 
> The CPPIA consists of:
> 
> Antimatter
> Malenkai <-- declined (I can do that here to save 2 more posts :))
> Guy Fawkes
> Rex Mundi
> Robert Sevin
> two-star
> fnord
> Alfvaen

Just to expedite matters(and because I can), I have created a temporary
mailing list for the CPPIA, with the membership above(except for Malenkai,
of course).  The email address is [email-masked] .  I will remove
anyone who leaves the Committee, and add anyone who replaces them.

(Is this the first Ad Hoc Committee to ever be called?  I don't recall
having run across any in the email logs...:-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--Cock Robin:Just Around The Corner
Current Book--Sheri S. Tepper:King's Blood Four
If you're going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance.

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:28:50 -0700
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Random OC determination

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# I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
# based on the following
# schedule:
# 1 - go fish
# 2 - map shard
# 3 - untouch me
# 4 - share my expenses
# 5 - share my income
# 6 - swinging sale
# 7 - tactical retreat
# 8 - paratroop
# 9 - foul fowl
# 10 - truthseeker
# 11 - fix my gadget
# 12 - scientist for a day
# 13 - art thief

No. of sides on every die:     13
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

     12

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> #P [email-masked]
> #S 13
> #D 1
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> #T Acka: Random OC determination
> 
> #C I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
> #C based on the following
> #C schedule:
> #C 1 - go fish
> #C 2 - map shard
> #C 3 - untouch me
> #C 4 - share my expenses
> #C 5 - share my income
> #C 6 - swinging sale
> #C 7 - tactical retreat
> #C 8 - paratroop
> #C 9 - foul fowl
> #C 10 - truthseeker
> #C 11 - fix my gadget
> #C 12 - scientist for a day
> #C 13 - art thief

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:28:42 -0400
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Rishon: Acka: Agoraphobia 

This message is being sent to the Ackanomic mailing list, the Rishonomic
mailing list, and the Agora discussion list. No one's going to divulge any
State Secrets (tm) here, so fear not, this is only observation.

{{N.B.: You will notice some exclamations and epithets in the following
message. They are a result of a Rishonomic rule pertaining to Sworn Enemies
- - let none of my former compatriots in Acka take offense. Then again, go
ahead. You ARE Sworn Enemies of ours...;v)}}

Rishonews, Volume I, Issue 1
InterNomic Edition

I've been playing Nomic only since March 2, when I joined Ackanomic
(ptooey!) as You can call me Al. The joy of Nomic back then was simply being
surrounded by so many intelligent people fighting about the DUMBEST things.
:v) I later realized, of course, that they were merely playing a game very
fiercely, and arguing the finer points of their (admittedly silly)
legislation was an integral part of that game. I enjoyed it a hell of a lot,
but when Uri founded Rishonomic, I jumped at that chance - a Nomic at the
ground floor! :v)

Anyway, I tried to play an active part in that Nomic, voting on every
proposal, writing a bunch of 'em myself, generally being heard once in a
while. It was a BLAST.

One of the early proposals was the "Sworn Enemies" proposal. I'm pretty sure
it was snowgod's work: we're great. Anyone who isn't us is by definition
less great. Some Nomics are SWORN ENEMIES and we need to slander them a
little. It was, and still is, vastly entertaining [cf. my
Let's-Smoke-crAckanomic slam a few days ago]. Anyway, we didn't include
Agora in the list of Enemies because the general sterotype of an Agoran is
that of the stolid Rules Lawyer. Not all are like this, evidently, but some
really are. And the Ruleset is evidence of this. The ridiculously formal
language of the Agoran official business that I've read is a sign of the
tone of the Nomic (if not necessarily of its players).

Evidently, a bunch of Agorans thought it was time to respond to this callous
lack of regard for their "skilled, daring gameplay" (*snicker*) by invading
Rishonomic. The original plan, I take it, was to alter only the text that
downgraded Agora, by making it a more Agora-praising text. This proposal
never came around. The first day, however, a player named Physical Ed made
some proposals which deeply annoyed the current population of Rishon: he
attempted to unilaterally alter the wording of nearly EVERY RULE in the
ruleset. This of course didn't wash, and I don't believe any of his roughly
35-40 or so proposals passed. This was in bad form, and I merely felt that
this was a tasteless display by an overzealous Nomician. I didn't see any
Secret Agena (tm) in this. If this was part of the Invasion, then Phase I
failed.

However, a throwaway proposal to change every number greater than 4 in the
game to "A Suffusion of Yellow" managed to pass somehow. I for one voted for
it, and publicly stated that there was, and I quote, "no way in hell that
[the proposal] is going to pass" (an obviously rash statement).

Cut to this week. Uri returns from his vacation, and casually states
something to the effect of, "Well, I'm back and oh yeah! The game crashed.
Nice going" (but vastly more politely). With all our numbers greater than 4
now ASoY (that means EVERY RULE NUMBER and every score became ASoY), the
game crashed. Two CFJ's were issued, one by me and one by IdiotBoy. Mine was
judged by a resident Agoran (Ed...hmm...) to be FALSE, which isn't
surprising. I'll admit it was a last-ditch effort by me, and rather sloppy.
It was late, what can you do?

IdiotBoy's CFJ hinged on the wording of the rule - "I WILL change every
number greater than 4 to ASoY" (paraphrased by me, my emphasis). This
seemingly indeterminate wording, of course, meant that a whole slew of other
rules would seemingly be invalid, but that didn't matter. Better to start
with a fixed ruleset, right?

Narf judged IB's CFJ to be TRUE.

Hell, however, has not ceased to break loose quite yet. The appeal system in
Rishonomic is now being tested, as the wearers of the Powdered Wigs (roughly
equivalent to Acka's Supreme Court, I gather) ponder whether or not they
should uphold the verdict or overturn it. Why in God's name would they
overturn it? To be honest, the whole CFJ (and the judge's reasoning) seems a
little shifty. Though IdiotBoy's reasoning is certainly one valid
interpretation, the consensus in Rishonomic seems to be that Game Custom
would dictate a verdict of FALSE.

Anyway, we now find ourselves bifurcated: one thread with a TRUE verdict and
an unbroken game, and one thread with a FALSE verdict and a (seemingly)
complete crash.

The point of this email is to explain to some people what's going on in
their InterNomic community, and to preface the upcoming sea change in
inter-Nomic diplomacy. REAL INTERACTION, instead of merely existing in
parallel universes and coming together only to vote. It's entirely possible
that the first Internomic Duel may take place to settle once and for all the
matter of who's REALLY the fairest of them all (although this is entirely
redundant; everyone knows what the word "Rishonomic" means [I believe it's
"First Nomic", though my Hebrew is most elementary]). Through the efforts of
many players in both Agora and Rishonomic (some in both), we may be able to
come up with a structure for binding Nomics to the results of interactions
on the InterNomic stage. I, for one, would LOVE to see this happen, although
the potential for scamming and ruleset destruction becomes high. The
(despicable) Ackanomic concept of Contracts may then come into play, and
good form could be rewarded by InterKudos, and the Voting Gnome (AMNESTY FOR
GNOMES!!) may once again spread cheer and fear throughout the Nomic universe.

Even better, we could invite Canada to join InterNomic. Wouldn't that be
interesting? In any case, in the words of that Mike Myers character from
Saturday Night Live, "Talk amongst yourselves." Thanks for listening, and on
a more personal note, thank you for providing me with hours of entertainment
and thought-provoking little arguments.

I'd be interested to know Suber's thoughts on inter-Nomic interaction.
Anyway, that's it for now. From the heartland, this is You can call me Al,
signing off.

Al
6.23.97

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 23:10:01 -0700
From: **Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Shovel burial

I am burying the Silver Shovel.

The map to it reads:

The Silver Shovel shall be found by the first player who has signed the 
Silver Shovel Contract to find a treasure buried by a custodian or 
writer of this map.

**two-star

who has a nifty treasure hunt planned.

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 14:57:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Return from Vacation, etc.

To:   Ackanomians
From: mr cwm

By this line of this message I return from Vacation.
By this line of this message I resign as CSRR Officer.
By this line of this message I announce my intent to try to figure out
what is going on. (I guess that's two lines.)

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 22:05:30 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Niccolo Flychuck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  P2113 rejected (Spam Spam Spam Spam)

On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> 
> OK, I must ask Niccolo, Alfvaen, Atilla, Antimatter, breadbox, two-star,
> snowgod, Bascule, and Guy Fawkes why you voted against this proposal.

Sometimes I like to send proposals in big batches. Most of the time I just
submit a proposal every few days. Sometimes I RFC, and then submit the
actual proposal a long time afterwards, especially if it's not critical.
But I don't like such a limit.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 14:21:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Dividends

I didn't mention it yet, but Vynd became Harfmeister with P2109,
Rex Mundi became active and triggered the Whamiols (one now owned
by Techno) with P2095, 4 separate +5's from temp text at the bottom
of Robert Sevin's recycled proposals took effect, Robert Sevin got
+1 from the Great Tuba for every one of those proposals of his that
passed yesterday (and a couple were short), and I've marked Malenkai
and Alfvaen as having been successfully ambushed by Thargoids and
losing 1 point each.

In the thread without Azpiazu, where we are still in cycle 14 and the
Magic Number has not reset yet, these are the current scores.
In this thread, Lunatic Fringe's tammany bribe on P2113 failed.

203     Robert Sevin         A   (Mitchell Harding)
168     /dev/joe             A   (Joseph DeVincentis)
152     Alfvaen              A   (Aaron Humphrey)
150     Voting Gnome         N   (Ed Graham)
140     Guy Fawkes           A   (Robert Shimmin)
124     two-star             A   (Alexandre Muniz)
124     Bascule              A   (Matt Black)
110     Mr. Lunatic Fringe   A   (Phil Ackley)
95      fnord                A   (Michael J. Thomas)
95      Joon                nV   (Lisa Griffith)
94      CarsesraC           AV   (Jeroen M.W. van Dijk)
86      Techno               A   (Jerome Herrman)
84      mr cwm               Ag  (Eric Murray)
78      Karma                A   (Jordan James)
73      Ackers               Ii  (Sean Crystal)
68      Mohammed             A   (Jason Orendorff)
64      Red Barn            AV   (Daniel Knapp)
55      Atilla the Pun       A   (Micah Smukler)
43      Malenkai             A   (Randy Hall)
37      Calvin N Hobbes      A   (Thierry Joffrain)
35      Vynd                 A   (John McCoy)
31      breadbox             A   (Brian Raiter)
28      ThinMan             AV   (John Bollinger)
12      Rex Mundi           NP   (Gavin Doig)
4       Niccolo Flychuck     A   (Uri Bruck)
3       Sammy               NP   (Michelle Stevens)
0       Antimatter           A   (Ross Morgan-Linial)
- -8      AZTEC GOD           NP   (Jesse Czaja)

Score changes used for bond cycle calculation:
- ----------------------------------------------
Ackers: 73
Alfvaen: 60
Antimatter: -27
Atilla the Pun: -2
AZTEC GOD: -8
Bascule: 67
breadbox: 18
Calvin N Hobbes: 10
CarsesraC: 105
/dev/joe: 120
fnord: 107
Guy Fawkes: 57
Joon: 95
Karma: 78
Malenkai: 116
Mohammed: 9
mr cwm: 26
Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 65
Niccolo Flychuck: 18
Red Barn: 54
Rex Mundi: 12
Robert Sevin: 212
Sammy: 3
Techno: 4
ThinMan: -5
two-star: 106
Voting Gnome: 105
Vynd: -33

Yes, these are really the score changes in the last two weeks.
I believe Robert Sevin's 212 is a record.  Next time some of you
won't get so greedy voting for points on questionable proposals.

Bond Dividends
- --------------
Ackers: 71.99  -->  87*73 + 4*212
Alfvaen: 43.2  -->  69*60 + 10*18
Antimatter: -12.825  -->  95*-27/2
Atilla the Pun: -1.0  -->  100*-2/2
AZTEC GOD: -4.0  -->  100*-8/2
Bascule: 67.0  -->  100*67
breadbox: 15.12  -->  84*18
Calvin N Hobbes: 10.0  -->  100*10
CarsesraC: 105.0  -->  100*105
/dev/joe: 164.37  -->  91*120 + 2*116 + 15*4 + 10*-5/2 + 50*105
fnord: 106.18  -->  1*18 + 2*120 + 93*107 + 1*26 + 1*65 + 1*212 + 1*106
Guy Fawkes: 42.75  -->  75*57
Joon: 95.0  -->  100*95
Karma: 78.0  -->  100*78
Malenkai: 91.64  -->  79*116
Mohammed: 30.81  -->  11*60 + 2*120 + 5*107 + 2*116 + 87*9 + 5*26 + 3*65 +
  17*18
mr cwm: 36.535  -->  1*107 + 5*9 + 94*26 + 5*212 + 1*-5/2
Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 39.25  -->  1*116 + 5*9 + 54*65 + 3*18 + 50*4
Niccolo Flychuck: 45.28  -->  5*73 + 5*60 + 5*18 + 5*120 + 5*116 + 2*9 +
  5*65 + 50*18 + 5*54 + 5*212 + 5*4
Red Barn: 48.6  -->  90*54
Rex Mundi: 12.0  -->  100*12
Robert Sevin: 190.79  -->  3*73 + 1*107 + 1*116 + 10*65 + 85*212 + 2*-33/2
Sammy: 3.0  -->  100*3
Techno: 54.35  -->  25*65 + 30*18 + 30*4 + 30*105
ThinMan: 12.375  -->  5*60 + 10*116 + 89*-5/2
two-star: 104.355  -->  5*-27/2 + 1*9 + 99*106
Voting Gnome: 21.0  -->  20*105
Vynd: -16.17  -->  98*-33/2

#award Ackers: 72 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Alfvaen: 44 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Antimatter: -13 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Atilla the Pun: -1 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award AZTEC GOD: -4 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Bascule: 67 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award breadbox: 16 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Calvin N Hobbes: 10 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award CarsesraC: 105 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award /dev/joe: 165 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award fnord: 107 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Guy Fawkes: 43 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Joon: 95 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Karma: 78 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Malenkai: 92 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Mohammed: 31 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award mr cwm: 37 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 40 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Niccolo Flychuck: 46 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Red Barn: 49 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Rex Mundi: 12 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Robert Sevin: 191 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Sammy: 3 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Techno: 55 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award ThinMan: 13 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award two-star: 105 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Voting Gnome: 21 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Vynd: -17 A$ : dividend Jun 23

To confuse issues more, I don't know if the R2101 2% payment happens before
or after these dividends are paid (or simultaneously, which implies it is
calculated before the dividends are paid).  Again in ths no-Azpiazu thread,
this payment is A$29 from Voting Gnome (1415) to /dev/joe (0) if it is
calculated before dividends are paid, but it is A$29 from Voting Gnome
(1436) to Mr. Lunatic Fringe (68) if it is calculated after these dividends
are paid.

==========================================================
Now, then, there is the thread where Azpiazu exists.
I haven't added up all the A$ (end of cycle tax and payment of score
in A$, failed trinket creations, etc.) in this thread so I don't know
who gets the 2% payment.  But I do have scores and bond holdings!
In this thread, we started with eggplant weights as usual
(Malenkai at -105!) and P2077 added the eggplant weight penalties
back to our scores, and amended the rule to change the procedure for
the next end-of-cycle but (as in the other thread) did not reset the
current bond cycle to ignore the eggplant weights.  [This is very
similar to the way that the Magic Number has not been reset to its
base value in the other thread also -- the way it resets was changed,
but it didn't reset.]

In this thread, the current scores are:

148     Robert Sevin         A   (Mitchell Harding)
66      Techno               A   (Jerome Herrman)
65      Vynd                 A   (John McCoy)
64      Malenkai             A   (Randy Hall)
62      /dev/joe             A   (Joseph DeVincentis)
57      ThinMan             AV   (John Bollinger)
55      Calvin N Hobbes      A   (Thierry Joffrain)
54      Guy Fawkes           A   (Robert Shimmin)
51      Mr. Lunatic Fringe   A   (Phil Ackley)
51      Alfvaen              A   (Aaron Humphrey)
47      fnord                A   (Michael J. Thomas)
44      Mohammed             A   (Jason Orendorff)
42      Voting Gnome         N   (Ed Graham)
41      Rex Mundi           NP   (Gavin Doig)
39      CarsesraC           AV   (Jeroen M.W. van Dijk)
37      Atilla the Pun       A   (Micah Smukler)
33      breadbox             A   (Brian Raiter)
29      Bascule              A   (Matt Black)
26      Antimatter           A   (Ross Morgan-Linial)
24      two-star             A   (Alexandre Muniz)
18      Red Barn            AV   (Daniel Knapp)
10      mr cwm               Ag  (Eric Murray)
9       Karma                A   (Jordan James)
6       AZTEC GOD           NP   (Jesse Czaja)
3       Niccolo Flychuck     A   (Uri Bruck)
0       Sammy               NP   (Michelle Stevens)
0       Joon                nV   (Lisa Griffith)

Score changes used for bond cycle calculation:
- ----------------------------------------------
Ackers: 0
Alfvaen: 51
Antimatter: 26
Atilla the Pun: 37
AZTEC GOD: 6
Bascule: 44
breadbox: 33
Calvin N Hobbes: 55
CarsesraC: 39
/dev/joe: 92
fnord: 47
Guy Fawkes: 54
Joon: 0
Karma: 9
Malenkai: 169
Mohammed: 59
mr cwm: 10
Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 51
Niccolo Flychuck: 3
Red Barn: 18
Rex Mundi: 41
Robert Sevin: 163
Sammy: 0
Techno: 66
ThinMan: 72
two-star: 24
Voting Gnome: 57
Vynd: 65
 
Bond Dividends
- --------------
Ackers: 6.52  -->  87*0 + 4*163
Alfvaen: 38.49  -->  69*51 + 10*33
Antimatter: 24.7  -->  95*26
Atilla the Pun: 37.0  -->  100*37
AZTEC GOD: 6.0  -->  100*6
Bascule: 44.0  -->  100*44
breadbox: 27.72  -->  84*33
Calvin N Hobbes: 55.0  -->  100*55
CarsesraC: 39.0  -->  100*39
/dev/joe: 132.7  -->  91*92 + 2*169 + 15*66 + 10*72 + 50*57
fnord: 48.36  -->  1*33 + 2*92 + 93*47 + 1*10 + 1*51 + 1*163 + 1*24
Guy Fawkes: 40.5  -->  75*54
Joon: 0.0  -->  100*0
Karma: 9.0  -->  100*9
Malenkai: 133.51  -->  79*169
Mohammed: 67.05  -->  11*51 + 2*92 + 5*47 + 2*169 + 87*59 + 5*10 + 3*51 + 17*3
mr cwm: 21.69  -->  1*47 + 5*59 + 94*10 + 5*163 + 1*72
Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 65.27  -->  1*169 + 5*59 + 54*51 + 3*3 + 50*66
Niccolo Flychuck: 34.83  -->  5*0 + 5*51 + 5*33 + 5*92 + 5*169 + 2*59 + 5*51 + 50*3 + 5*18 + 5*163 + 5*66
Red Barn: 16.2  -->  90*18
Rex Mundi: 41.0  -->  100*41
Robert Sevin: 147.11  -->  3*0 + 1*47 + 1*169 + 10*51 + 85*163 + 2*65
Sammy: 0.0  -->  100*0
Techno: 50.55  -->  25*51 + 30*3 + 30*66 + 30*57
ThinMan: 83.53  -->  5*51 + 10*169 + 89*72
two-star: 25.65  -->  5*26 + 1*59 + 99*24
Voting Gnome: 11.4  -->  20*57
Vynd: 63.7  -->  98*65

#award Ackers: 7 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Alfvaen: 39 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Antimatter: 25 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Atilla the Pun: 37 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award AZTEC GOD: 6 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Bascule: 44 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award breadbox: 28 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Calvin N Hobbes: 55 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award CarsesraC: 39 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award /dev/joe: 133 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award fnord: 49 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Guy Fawkes: 41 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Joon: 0 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Karma: 9 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Malenkai: 134 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Mohammed: 68 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award mr cwm: 22 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Mr. Lunatic Fringe: 66 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Niccolo Flychuck: 35 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Red Barn: 17 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Rex Mundi: 41 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Robert Sevin: 148 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Sammy: 0 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Techno: 51 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award ThinMan: 84 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award two-star: 26 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Voting Gnome: 12 A$ : dividend Jun 23
#award Vynd: 64 A$ : dividend Jun 23

/dev/joe
Bond-Harfer doing twice the work this bond cycle.

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 14:28:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Taking back my money

Regardless of the thread, I now (on behalf of Seleya) give all Seleya's
A$ to /dev/joe.  Then (on behalf of myself) I donate A$100 back to
Seleya (which was already there before my donation).

/dev/joe
Founder of the Church of Seleya

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 97 20:38:26 UT
From: "Beth Moursund" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Rishon: Internomic Proposal 

>  Rule 3.
>  A rule may be declared illegal by the judge for any reason. The referee 
need 

What judge?  The rest of the proposed rule only talks about referees.  Does 
this mean that every proposed rule is treated as a CFJ?

  - Agoraphobe BethMo

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 23:40:22 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Proposal 2155 (fwd)

On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Acrobot wrote:

> Proposal 2155
> Finger On The Pulse
> Alfvaen
> option.
> 
> 3. Forward the matter to an Ad Hoc Committee created for the purpose,
> which will have the power to change the Blueprint in question.
>

This language doesn't quite mesh with the Ad Hoc language. It seems to
work, no reason that a single rule can't both empower an Ad Hoc committe
and specify when it can be called.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:42:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ross Morgan-Linial <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Internomic Proposal

I hereby submit the following internomic proposal, assuming this is legal:

####
Let the rules be changed by removing Rishonomic from the list of voting
players.
####

- ------
Ross Morgan-Linial * [email-masked]

Any man who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined.
 - Samuel Goldwyn

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:51:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ross Morgan-Linial <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Rishon: Internomic Proposal

On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Beth Moursund wrote:

// >  Rule 3.
// >  A rule may be declared illegal by the judge for any reason. The referee 
// need 
// 
// What judge?  The rest of the proposed rule only talks about referees.  Does 
// this mean that every proposed rule is treated as a CFJ?
// 
//   - Agoraphobe BethMo

Not to mention I forgot to specify how the referee is selected (it should
have been at the agreement of the two Nomics). The substitution of "judge"
for "referee" is, of course, a mindo (similar to a typo, and pronounced
"MIND-oh"). I think I'll just see if the flawed version passes :-)

In the meantime, would Rishonomic like to select three champions, and
could someone find a neutral referee for a Rishonomic-vs-Agora duel?

- ------
Ross Morgan-Linial * [email-masked]

Any man who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined.
 - Samuel Goldwyn

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 00:00:44 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alphabet RFC

I am calling a politeness moon on this RFC.

On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Aaron Humphrey wrote:
> Proposal Aleph Beth Gimel

While  a proposal citing the Hebrew alphabet is a good way to get my
attention I think there is no excuse for the rude explicit language used
below

 > 
> Create a new rule, numbered 349, with text as follows(delineated by ZAYIN):
								     ^^^^^
> 
and there it is again:

> ZAYIN

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:18:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Awards 

>And before you say, 'stop using the work' argument, as has been done
>in the past, its a valid argument and should be countered objectively,
>if it is to be countered.  People will only put work into something 
>if they expect to get at least a 1 to 1 return on that work.  When they
>don't, they find something else to do.

I feel that every played has the right to complain (although I would prefer
that it be polite). I do not agree that an officer, just by taking on work,
is any more of a player than, or is in some way superior to, a non-officer.
All of the offices that involve work are voluntary, and I am very thankful
that competent, hard-working, well-meaning people have filled them. But that
doesn't mean that the game should be played solely to please them. Acka is a
game, and people shouldn't gain power just because they decide to do the
grunt work -- the banker in Monopoly has no special privileges. Someone
needs to do it, or the game can't happen, but the game is no fun if the
functional officers continually use their status to lend legitimacy to their
complaints.

Further, in a related note, it seems as though we could automate more of the
jobs than we currently do. I think adding proposals to the web page could be
automated. Acrobot maintains a list of current proposals, and I *believe* it
is done automatically. Perhaps we should look into greater automation, so
that no one will have to work too hard.

Robert Sevin

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:08:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Alphabet RFC

> On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Aaron Humphrey wrote:
> > Proposal Aleph Beth Gimel
> 
> While  a proposal citing the Hebrew alphabet is a good way to get my
> attention I think there is no excuse for the rude explicit language used
> below
> 
>  > 
> > Create a new rule, numbered 349, with text as follows(delineated by ZAYIN):
> 								     ^^^^^
> > 
> and there it is again:
> 
> > ZAYIN

I plead ignorance.  I have only the vaguest memory of a few Hebrew
letters--the three in the title, and I thought that Z***N was another.  If
it was not, then I apologize unreservedly.  And if it is, and is still
somehow rude, again, my apologies.  Nothing was aimed specifically at you;
Greek letters are too common, and Hebrew is the only other alphabet I know
where the letters have actual names.  A thousand, thousand apologies.

(I do have a tagline which I know is supposed to be extremely rude in
Hungarian, but there's a story behind that one, which admittedly I've
forgotten most of.  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Alannah Myles:A-Lan-Nah
Current Book--Sheri S. Tepper:King's Blood Four
Base 8 is just like base 10, if you are missing two fingers.  -- Tom Lehrer

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:50:57 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Anti-Gumball RFC 

>     I wish I could find a nice free implementation of Scheme.  I
> thought the FSF had one but I can't find it now.  I guess I just need
> to spend some time looking....

  Funny, I had no trouble.  Since I have a Mac, I use MacGambit, a version
of a program for 68k Unixen, and a version for any platform that generates
C source, though the non-C-generating versions have their own compilers.
There are plenty of other ones, though: sorry I can't give you the address
of the FAQ I found, but it wasn't hard to locate on the web.

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:51:27 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Anti-Gumball RFC 2 

> I can see your point.  On the other hand, I think the two are somewhat
> different.  The Ackanomicon is sort of Lovecraftian, whereas the
> Anti-Gumball thing is more high-energy-related.  I just can't see how I
> could make the Ackanomicon gouge a hole in the surface of Acka, for
> instance.  If Ackanomic doesn't want them both, then they won't vote for
> mine.  I dunno...we'll see.  As always, I am still volunteering to help out
> with any work that I could to defray the extra effort engendered by any of
> my Proposals.  :-)

  What's really needed is a sort of "general effects" table, sorted into
categories, and rules needing an effect can pick a relevant one.  This does
have a drawback: it's limited to things the description of which fits any
rule that might select it.  It would be nice to have, though, and perhaps
that could be worked around, ie by creating categories based on cause as
well as effect.  Or alternately have two tables, of causes and effects.

- -Red Barn
from beyond the pail

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:58:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Silver Moon candidates

In the thread where cycle 14 ended with the creation of Azpiazu, the senate
(consisting of myself, Robert Sevin, Vynd, and acting Senator Niccolo Flychuck)
has unanimously agreed on the following list of candidates.

 Proposal 1909 by fnord
   http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~devjoe/acka/prop1950.html#P1909
 
 Thinman's ridicule of /dev/joe's guess at the 11th truth of the Machine.
   http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~devjoe/acka/machine.html#11-r1
 
 breadbox's Hubert Feathers treasure
   http://www.itw.com/~malenkai/ackafta.htm#141
 
 Vynd's posting of Phoebe's Wisdom on April 25th.
   http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~devjoe/acka/phoebe.html#36

/dev/joe

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:04:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Four Visitors: A Report 

>	This is utter balderdash.  Flagrant sensationalism.  A claw is
>a claw, and nobody has seen a talking claw.  Such concoctions belong
>in Ye Olde Rusty Lantern....

I will add this to the above as a rebuttal. However, it fails to say that
"it violates the laws of physics". A scientist will still have to say that.

CnH

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:06:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Calling (Markovians) 

>After much soul-searching, I have decided to request membership in the
>Church of the Markovian Dream.  (Okay, I can't resist a Jack L. Chalker
>reference. :-)

Alfvaen

I have not see your formal acceptance into the Church. However, I believe we
all agree to let you join up. I also believe our founder and prophet needs
to announce this publicly.

CnH

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:27:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Internomic proposals

On the issues of Internomic proposals 337-341, the senate consisting of
myself, Robert Sevin, Vynd, and acting senator Niccolo Flychuck have voted
differently on each proposal, requiring a tiebreaker from the Pro-Consul
in some cases.

Internomic proposal 337 by Micronomic II:
The vote was unanimously YES.

Internomic proposal 338 by Ackanomic (Robert Sevin):
Robert Sevin and Vynd voted YES.
Niccolo Flychuck and /dev/joe voted NO.

Internomic proposal 339 by Ackanomic(Calvin N Hobbes):
Robert Sevin voted NO.
The other 3 senators voted YES.

Internomic proposal 340 by Agora:
Robert Sevin and Vynd voted NO.
Niccolo Flychuck and /dev/joe voted YES.

Internomic proposal 341 by Agora:
Robert Sevin and /dev/joe voted NO.
Vynd and Niccolo Flychuck voted YES.

/dev/joe

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 00:48:40 +0100
From: "Gavin Doig" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Politeness Moon

> Date: 23 June 1997 18:14
> 
> A Politeness Moon has been called against Malenkai on the re-quoted
> content below.  The valid responses are:
> 
> Yes, it was Polite
> No, it was not Polite
> 

Yes, it was Polite

Rex Mundi.

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:13:27 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Anti-Gumball RFC

>   Funny, I had no trouble.  Since I have a Mac, I use MacGambit, a version
> of a program for 68k Unixen, and a version for any platform that generates
> C source, though the non-C-generating versions have their own compilers.
> There are plenty of other ones, though: sorry I can't give you the address
> of the FAQ I found, but it wasn't hard to locate on the web.

This is Nomic, not comp sci 101.  As Mohammed has complained profusely
about the IRC posts on this list (which actually *are* related to
this game), I am asking that these move to the appropriate forum.

Thx
Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:22:49 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Politeness Moon

A Politeness Moon as been called against Alfvaen for the content re-quoted
below.  The choices are:

Yes, it was Polite
No, it was not POlite

Reply to vote.  The voting lasts for 3 days.

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>  >
> > Create a new rule, numbered 349, with text as follows(delineated by ZAYIN):
>                                                                      ^^^^^
> >
> and there it is again:
> 
> > ZAYIN

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Date: 23 Jun 1997 19:38:34 CST/CDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: AZTEC GOD 

AC>>Sorry for any confusion caused by my E-mail address.
AC>>
AC>>It is aztec [email-masked].

AC>Without a space, though.  Correct?

AC>a-z-t-e-c-g-zero-god?

If the space causes a problem in a UNIX-basied mailer, try surrounding
it by quotes -- "aztec g0d"@aol.com.  I can promise any portability for
this solution, but it's worth a shot.
                     oblem, and nothing to apologize for.  We can be
Guy Fawkes           e details sometime, but we're just here to have fun.

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:37:41 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Awards

Robert Sevin wrote:

> I feel that every played has the right to complain (although I would prefer
> that it be polite). I do not agree that an officer, just by taking on work,
> is any more of a player than, or is in some way superior to, a non-officer.
> Acka is a game, and people shouldn't gain power just because they decide
> to do the grunt work

I agree with this 100%.  Now let me try to rephrase what I was trying
to say.  People expect at least a 1 to 1 return on the work that they
put into something, or at least I do.  When there is a long-term trend
of the work/fun ratio below 1:1, people go elsewhere to improve their
chances.  The people that do the work for this game, in some cases, are
not having fun.  Moreover, when they complain, they are subject to the
unsubstantiated retort that these complaints are "ruining the game".
I do not think complaints are tantamount to asking for special 
privileges, and for the most part, the officer who does the most work
for this game never complains.

My argument was that the people doing the work for this game leaving
was more of a threat to it than the complaint in question, that is
all, and that rather than complaining, the game might stand a better
chance of surviving the departure of the people who do the work for it
if the people enjoying the work-producing content would volunteer to
do some of the work.  That is my argument, TIA.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:53:48 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Internomic proposals

> Internomic proposal 338 by Ackanomic (Robert Sevin):
> Robert Sevin and Vynd voted YES.
> Niccolo Flychuck and /dev/joe voted NO.

I vote No.
 
> Internomic proposal 340 by Agora:
> Robert Sevin and Vynd voted NO.
> Niccolo Flychuck and /dev/joe voted YES.

I vote Yes.
 
> Internomic proposal 341 by Agora:
> Robert Sevin and /dev/joe voted NO.
> Vynd and Niccolo Flychuck voted YES.

I vote No.

Malenkai
ProConsul

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:59:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Azpiazu Thread finances

OK, I have updated an alternate version of the finance log for the
thread where Azpiazu was created.
Here are the differences from the other thread I have been logging.

End of cycle tax: 20% of the A$ held by each player go to the treasury,
except only 10% of the cycle winner's A$.  20% from each undead too:

Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -101 A$ Ackers: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -10 A$ Alfvaen: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -263 A$ Antimatter: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -169 A$ Atilla the Pun: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -169 A$ Bascule: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -205 A$ breadbox: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -164 A$ Calvin N Hobbes: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -196 A$ CarsesraC: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -726 A$ /dev/joe: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -120 A$ fnord: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -71 A$ Guy Fawkes: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -178 A$ Joon: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -176 A$ Karma: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -85 A$ Malenkai: end of cycle 14 tax (10%)
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -261 A$ Mohammed: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -119 A$ mr cwm: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -35 A$ Mr. Lunatic Fringe: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -27 A$ Niccolo Flychuck: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -200 A$ Robert Sevin: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -179 A$ Techno: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -308 A$ ThinMan: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -105 A$ two-star: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -283 A$ Voting Gnome: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -185 A$ Vynd: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -260 A$ AirHead: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -137 A$ Brinjal: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -240 A$ Clairence: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -177 A$ CV1701: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -65 A$ fon: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -193 A$ G. Peefalt: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -77 A$ Jammer: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -235 A$ Lestrade: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -140 A$ Ludwig: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -43 A$ Narf: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -57 A$ Pascal: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -47 A$ Strider: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -262 A$ Swann: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -238 A$ 23 Skidoo: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -109 A$ this is not a name: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -128 A$ Uncle Sam: end of cycle 14 tax
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -116 A$ You can call me Al: end of cycle 14 tax

End-of-cycle score bonus -- these are updated from the ones that
Malenkai posted in his fat lady post by one score correction --
the whamiols triggered on Karma's becoming active.

Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +0 A$ Ackers: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +101 A$ Alfvaen: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +30 A$ Antimatter: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +63 A$ Atilla the Pun: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +47 A$ Bascule: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +13 A$ breadbox: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +33 A$ Calvin N Hobbes: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -5 A$ CarsesraC: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +106 A$ /dev/joe: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -12 A$ fnord: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +86 A$ Guy Fawkes: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +0 A$ Joon: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +0 A$ Karma: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +37 A$ Malenkai: end of cycle 14 tax (1score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +86 A$ Mohammed: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +64 A$ mr cwm: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +72 A$ Mr. Lunatic Fringe: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -14 A$ Niccolo Flychuck: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +6 A$ Robert Sevin: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +84 A$ Techno: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +51 A$ ThinMan: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -5 A$ two-star: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +90 A$ Voting Gnome: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +77 A$ Vynd: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -2 A$ CV1701: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +70 A$ You can call me Al: end of cycle 14 score bonus
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -9 A$ Red Barn: end of cycle 14 score bonus [in debt]
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +0 A$ Sunflare: end of cycle 14 score bonus

The analysis of who became archaeologist is unchanged from what Malenkai
posted, except that my score was no longer prime so I don't get
somewhat-unfairly passed by.  breadbox gets it with score of 13.

Jun 15 01:50 EDT: -1 archaeologist /dev/joe: end of cycle 14 transfer
Jun 15 01:50 EDT: +1 archaeologist breadbox: end of cycle 14 transfer

ThinMan's 4th trinket creation in one message (for A$200) failed
due to lack of A$, at Jun 16 14:21 EDT.  [The instant shelter]

Some new players' starting cash is recalculated:

Jun 18 03:10 EDT: +633 A$ Sammy: starting cash (A$17073/27)
Jun 18 03:10 EDT: +634 A$ Rex Mundi: starting cash (A$17731/28)
Jun 20 04:05 EDT: +615 A$ AZTEC GOD: starting cash (A$17220/28)

YccmA had less A$ when he left the game:

Jun 21 23:34 EDT: -536 A$ You can call me Al: donation (all his A$)
Jun 21 23:34 EDT: +536 A$ Odo on the Wormhole: donation

Mr. Lunatic Fringe had enough A$ for his P2113 tammany bribe
in this thread:

Jun 22 16:34 EDT: -50 A$ Mr. Lunatic Fringe: P2113 tammany bribe

Alfvaen's zombie attempt still fails, but now the player with the fewest
A$ is ThinMan.

The bond dividends are different (as posted earlier)

When I gave all my A$ to seleya (and took it back later) the amount
was just A$319.

The player with the most A$ is still Voting Gnome, who pays A$25 to either
me or ThinMan.

Web pages with the alternate state are up, linked from the main page.

/dev/joe

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