Subject: Ackanomic Digest V2 #153
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Ackanomic Digest        Saturday, June 21 1997        Volume 02 : Number 153

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:15:18 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: New Observer

We have a new observer in Ackanomic.  His name is Mac Manser, and he has
expressed a desire to use Tambo as his Ackanomic name when and if he joins.
His email address is [email-masked].  He found out about us through
Robert Sevin's post on alt.music.tmbg.

Please Welcome him to Ackanomic!

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:56:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Observer

> We have a new observer in Ackanomic.  His name is Mac Manser, and he
> has expressed a desire to use Tambo as his Ackanomic name when and
> if he joins.

Tambo, eh? Hm. I wonder, if he does join, and eventually obtain an
evil twin, whether the twin will be willing to undergo the appropriate
name change.

> He found out about us through Robert Sevin's post on alt.music.tmbg.

Now how did I know that...?

> Please Welcome him to Ackanomic!

Welcome, Mr. Tambo.

breadbox

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:26:56 -0700
From: **Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Internomic P338

Phil Ackley wrote:
> 
> There is a new internomic proposal, number 338, proposed by our own Robert
> Sevin of Ackanomic.  I hereby initiate a senate vote on it.
> 
> Mr. Lunatic Fringe
> Ambassador
> 
> PS - Did anyone notice ackanomic becoming fun again? :)
> 
> Proposal 338
> 
> Create a new rule with the following text:
> 
> A member nomic's score is defined as the number of points they possess.
> Whenever a member nomic's score is a positive prime number (note that 1 is
> not a prime number), their score shall be instantly increased by 1 point.
> Whenever a member nomic's score is a positive perfect square, their score
> shall be instantly decreased by 2 points.
> Whenever a member nomic's score is equal to 57, their score shall be
> instantly changed to 137.

Note that a very interesting thing would occur whenever a member nomic's 
score is 2, 3, or 4.

**two-star

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 09:23:59 -0800
From: "Ross Morgan-Linial" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: JMCL auction

> Antimatter receives a JMCL
> 
> #award Antimatter : JMCL

I am auctioning of my JMCL in an UNOFFICIAL auction. Send bids to me privately. 
The highest bidder will recieve the JMCL for the bid of the *second highest* 
bidder! What a bargain! Remember, if you send in a lowball bid, someone else 
may get the JMCL cheap, so bid what you think the JMCL is worth. The auction 
will end sometime between next friday and next sunday. Only one bid per player, 
later bids will supercede earlier ones. I refuse the right to not sell the JMCL 
if all bids are ridiculously low, or if at least 4 bids are not recieved. Time 
is limited, so act now! You won't regret it! Remember, this fabulous JMCL can 
be yours for *less* than you bid!
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Antimatter * [email-masked]
You have the power of negation.

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:03:39 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Challenge to Malenkai

I hereby offer a challenge, on behalf of breadbox, Holder of a Silver
Moon, Scientist of *ping*, Historian, Justice, and Silly, who has asked
me to be his Second in this affair, to Malenkai, Speaker, Clerk of the
Courts, holder of the Right-Handed Grapefruit, Wearer of a Ruby
Slipper, Holder of a Bronze Torch, Count Tabula, sometime Godfather,
Wizard, Enlightened, GOD, Silly, Expert in Loophole Surfing and
Bandwidth-Wasting Gizz, and possibly Angry Villager.

The issue of honour here is that Malenkai has maligned breadbox's
trinket, the "whatever it is we're auctioning today", in Rule 1141.
Let it me known that breadbox will not stand idly by and permit players
to imply that the whatever it is we're auctioning today--a possession
that e is quite fond of, and considers to be of historical and artistic
significance--is the epitome of inanity and/or the nadir of aesthetic
integrity!

If Malenkai would be so kind as to choose eir Second to respond to this 
Challenge, this matter can be settled with equity and honour.  We await
eir response.

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--Thomas Dolby:One of Our Submarines
Current Book--Jo Clayton:The Snares of Ibex
Please, no deja vu; I don't want to go through that again

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:21:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Observer 

At 01:15 AM 6/21/97 -0900, you wrote:
>We have a new observer in Ackanomic.  His name is Mac Manser, and he has
>expressed a desire to use Tambo as his Ackanomic name when and if he joins.
>His email address is [email-masked].  He found out about us through
>Robert Sevin's post on alt.music.tmbg.
>
>Please Welcome him to Ackanomic!

Welcome to Acka! If you have any questions, feel free to ask me (or anyone
else, for that matter). We're generally a helpful bunch. The game might seem
overwhelming at first, but I'm sure that being a fan of TMBG, you will be
capable of overcoming any difficulty. 

Robert Sevin

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:21:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Observer 

>> We have a new observer in Ackanomic.  His name is Mac Manser, and he
>> has expressed a desire to use Tambo as his Ackanomic name when and
>> if he joins.
>
>Tambo, eh? Hm. I wonder, if he does join, and eventually obtain an
>evil twin, whether the twin will be willing to undergo the appropriate
>name change.

Well, Tambo should really be named Mr. Tambo to make the effect complete.

Robert Sevin

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:22:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Internomic P338 

>Note that a very interesting thing would occur whenever a member nomic's 
>score is 2, 3, or 4.

That is currently the matter of much discussion in InterNomic. I think that
only adds to the fun, but apparently I'm in the minority on this one.

Robert Sevin

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:32:33 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Tornado

Alfvaen, /dev/joe, and Guy Fawkes were sheltered at the time
of the Tornado.  The Tower of Bandwidth does not have a basement.

In the "Azpiazu exists" thread, the following are the score changes and
scores.  That "other" thread is listed afterwords.

Malenkai
OICoRT

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Azpiazu
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Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -21 Calvin N Hobbes: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -24 Voting Gnome: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -4 Robert Sevin: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -23 Mr. Lunatic Fringe: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -4 Malenkai: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -28 You can call me Al: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -14 Atilla the Pun: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +12 Vynd: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -12 Bascule: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -5 Mohammed: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +2 fnord: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +2 Red Barn: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +1 mr cwm: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +17 ThinMan: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -6 breadbox: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -6 Niccolo Flychuck: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -3 two-star: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +0 Karma: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +23 Antimatter: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +0 Sammy: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +29 Rex Mundi: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +0 Joon: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +39 CarsesraC: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +6 AZTEC: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +19 Techno: Summer Tornado
Calvin N Hobbes     :  18
Voting Gnome        :  6
Robert Sevin        :  25
Mr. Lunatic Fringe  :  3
Malenkai            :  21
You can call me Al  :  -4
Atilla the Pun      :  7
Vynd                :  30
Bascule             :  3
Mohammed            :  9
fnord               :  14
Red Barn            :  12
mr cwm              :  10
ThinMan             :  24
breadbox            :  0
Niccolo Flychuck    :  0
two-star            :  0
Karma               :  3
Antimatter          :  26
Sammy               :  0
Rex Mundi           :  29
Joon                :  0
CarsesraC           :  39
AZTEC               :  6
Techno              :  15

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cycle 14
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Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +0 Voting Gnome: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -67 Mohammed: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -36 Mr. Lunatic Fringe: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -95 Vynd: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -94 You can call me Al: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -65 Atilla the Pun: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -45 Techno: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +11 mr cwm: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -72 Calvin N Hobbes: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -62 Malenkai: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +36 Bascule: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -63 ThinMan: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +45 Robert Sevin: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -33 Antimatter: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -21 breadbox: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +69 Karma: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +57 Red Barn: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +95 Joon: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +73 Ackers: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +0 Rex Mundi: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +3 Sammy: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +62 fnord: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: -8 AZTEC GOD: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +102 two-star: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +99 CarsesraC: Summer Tornado
Jun 21 4:20 EDT: +9 Niccolo Flychuck: Summer Tornado
Voting Gnome        :  120
Mohammed            :  33
Mr. Lunatic Fringe  :  62
Vynd                :  0
You can call me Al  :  0
Atilla the Pun      :  19
Techno              :  35
mr cwm              :  84
Calvin N Hobbes     :  0
Malenkai            :  0
Bascule             :  98
ThinMan             :  -5
Robert Sevin        :  80
Antimatter          :  0
breadbox            :  -2
Karma               :  72
Red Barn            :  58
Joon                :  95
Ackers              :  73
Rex Mundi           :  0
Sammy               :  3
fnord               :  62
AZTEC GOD           :  -8
two-star            :  100
CarsesraC           :  94
Niccolo Flychuck    :  1

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:44:18 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Phoebe

Red Barn has found Phoebe

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:56:02 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Observers Email 

I incorectly posted the new observers email address.  His domain is
ohio.net, not ohio.new

Mr. Lunatic Fringe

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 15:04:15 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Tornado 

>Alfvaen, /dev/joe, and Guy Fawkes were sheltered at the time
>of the Tornado.  The Tower of Bandwidth does not have a basement.

I think iwas in the afterlife after being burned as a witch. No?  Oops,
never mind.  I went to the tower to cavort with the entities tht may or may
not be there.  My apologies.

Mr. Fring
e

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:19:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Tornado

I forgot to add breadbox's 6 points for posting what phoebe said in
part of that long W-file report, so whoever got breadbox's score in
the tornado got 6 more points.  

> In the "Azpiazu exists" thread, the following are the score changes and
> scores.  That "other" thread is listed afterwords.

> Voting Gnome        :  6
> AZTEC               :  6

In this thread, breadbox's score was erroneously listed at 6 when it should
have been 12.  Unfortunately, Malenkai listed the new scores in the order
the players were originally in, instead of the order the scores were
originally in, so I don't know which of the above 2 is breadbox's 6.

> Atilla the Pun      :  19

In the other thread breadbox's score should have been 25 instead of 19, and
Atilla got this score.

/dev/joe

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:40:48 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:Acka: Anti-Gumball 

> When /dev/joe chewed the Anti-Gumball recently, the following
> Trinkets were destroyed, and it was not noted at the time:
>
> Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment 2
> Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment 8
> Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment 10
> Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment 12

  Oh, great.  :-)

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:41:03 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Proposal 2130 

> Lord of the Rings - Tolkien.
>
> Three rings for the Elven Kings under the sky
> Seven for the Dwarf Lords in their Halls of Stone
> Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die
> One for a Dark Lord on his Dark Throne
>
> In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie
> One ring rule to rule them all
> One ring to find them
> One ring to pull them all
> and in the darkness bind them
> In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie.
>
> (I might have a couple of words wrong  - this is from memory)

  Yes.  It's "bring", not "pull", and you split two lines after "them all",
where you should have put a comma.  No, that wasn't off the top of my head;
I looked it up when I sent my parody.

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:41:13 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:Acka: Automatic Sculptures 

> Now I can see three possibilities.  1) The original creator of the AS
> describes it when it is dug up.  (But what if that person has left the
> game?  Maybe the one who's buried it, or the custodian of the map,
> instead...)  2) The finder of the AS gets to describe it.  Not much problem
> with this one...  3) A player is selected at random to describe it.  Sounds
> like more fun, in my opinion, but there should be some reward for that
> player if it does happen, or a penalty if it doesn't, and that might be a
> hassle.
>
> I'd like 3), but would be willing to settle for 2).  Any other opinions on
> the matter?  Consider this an RFC.

  I like 3, myself, as well.  Can we somehow share the mechanism with SVHes?

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:41:18 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:Acka: AZTEC GOD 

> which bounces (though right at the moment, not much is getting anywhere
> on AOL -- their mail servers are overloaded and unable to accept mail).

  Must be our fault...

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:41:27 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:Acka: Anti-Gumball RFC 

> Just to throw out a few ideas:
>
> --If the player is in a location with a building, that building loses its
> suction grip and starts to dangle.  If there's no building...well, maybe it
> blows a hole in Ackanomic, creating a kaa of empty space...though what the
> precise effects of that would be, I don't know.  I'm sure something harfy
> could be done with it, though.

  *YES*!  We need to specify more of the geography outside Acka:  Perhaps
"expeditions" to strange places (for points), and so on.  And I'd like a
pet black hole in my basement.  :-)

> --The player becomes Radioactive, and may not possess any living entities
> (the Chartreuse Goose, Little Lamb, Frankenstein Monsters, something like
> that)for thirty days.  (There may be other effects here, too...)

  There should at least be a "living" attribute, just as there are
"tradeable", "nameable", and so on.

> Let me know what you think of these, or suggest others...

  The player is randomly teleported to a location e couldn't normally go
to, and might perhaps have trouble leaving?

  Oh, yes, and on a tangent:  Actions upon entities should only be
performable when in the same location as them.  Just a thought.

> --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
> Song In My Head--The Carpenters:Top of The World
> Current Book--Jo Clayton:The Snares of Ibex
> To know recusion, you must first know recursion.

  Oh, funny.  Of course, I'm re-learning lisp, which probably exaggerated
its impact on me.

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:41:39 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:Acka: Internomic P338 

> A member nomic's score is defined as the number of points they possess.
> Whenever a member nomic's score is a positive prime number (note that 1 is
> not a prime number), their score shall be instantly increased by 1 point.
> Whenever a member nomic's score is a positive perfect square, their score
> shall be instantly decreased by 2 points.
> Whenever a member nomic's score is equal to 57, their score shall be
> instantly changed to 137.

  This creates an infinite loop:

  2->3->4->2...

  I believe that's the only one.  Cool, and perhaps we should leave it in...

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:41:44 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Anti-Gumball RFC 

> (Oh, and I thought of another possible effect--name scrambling, a la the
> former Blue Thing, but only on the chewing player.)

  No!  On all entities in range!  Picture the chaos caused by the
Chartreuse Goose being renamed the Sour Goethe Reacts!  (Short one 't',
unfortunately)

  In that spirit, I am taking up /dev/joe's rather old and stale offer of
A$150 for my Scroll of Crumble.

#transfer devjoe: redbarn: scrollofcrumble
#transfer redbarn: devjoe: A$150

  Wow, pre-approved trade.  If that one's timed out, then, sorry, /dev.

  I am creating a trinket:

#trinket redbarn: Chartreuse Moose: A$50: It mopes about, eating grass
(which \ turns it more chartreuse), and occasionally looking mournfully
toward the sky.\
  It makes a noise rather like a french horn containing a colony of frogs which\
the blower is by sheer force of will moving through the valve mechanism, and\
can be seen to be munching upon a copy of the Acka ruleset, with hyperlinks\
hanging out of its mouth.

  I probably didn't get either of those right?  Well, I'll look it up
between now and next time.

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:42:00 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:Acka: Pre-Treasure Hunting News 

At 3:13 PM on 6/20/97, Phil Ackley wrote:

> Ackanomians,
>
> In a couple of days I am going to announce a new treasure.  It will be a
> treasure hunt unlike any treasure hunt Ackanomic has ever seen before.  It
> will be a treasure hunt based on a murder mystery!
>
> However, I have a problem.  In it's current form there can only be eight
> real participants.  Each person who chooses to participate must be willing
> to do the following things.

  How to Host a Murder-inspired?  Very good idea.  Shame I won't be here,
but I might run an HtHaM that I never got around to when I got back.  Is
the one you're using of your own devising or from a store?

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:57:17 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: AZTEC GOD 

> Sorry for any confusion caused by my E-mail address.
>
> It is aztec [email-masked].

  No, it isn't.  Only your address within AOL has the space; outside, it's
stripped.  So you address is [email-masked] - assuming that period
before the at-sign was deliberate.

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:59:14 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Pre-Treasure Hunting News 

> Malenkai
> wondering if a flat earth would have a solstice.  AckaPhysicist?

  Does it even have a sun?  If so, who revolves around whom?

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:04:24 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Anti-Gumball RFC

> #transfer devjoe: redbarn: scrollofcrumble
> #transfer redbarn: devjoe: A$150

I believe this has timed-out.

>   I am creating a trinket:

If the above timed out, this fails, as it looks like you are
penniless.

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:24:57 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Tornado

> > In the "Azpiazu exists" thread, the following are the score changes and
> > scores.  That "other" thread is listed afterwords.
> 
> > Voting Gnome        :  6
> > AZTEC               :  6
> 
> In this thread, breadbox's score was erroneously listed at 6 when it should
> have been 12.

I have a program that does it, and the way the alg works (which is just
as described in the rule except it uses the actual scores rather than
a symbolic reference such as 'breadboxscore', it cannot be determined
with finality.  Oh well.  As OICoRT, I have randomly decided that we
are in the thread where Voting Gnome got breadbox's score.  If someone
else wants to harf the other thread, feel free :)

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:37:29 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re:Acka: Pre-Treasure Hunting News 

>
>  How to Host a Murder-inspired?  Very good idea.  Shame I won't be here,
>but I might run an HtHaM that I never got around to when I got back.  Is
>the one you're using of your own devising or from a store?

The one I'm going to use this time is from a store, but modified for
Ackanomic (The names have been changed to protect the innocent, and some
other details).

Mr. Lunatic Fringe
Who wanted to write one himself, but couln't find anyone to help :)

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:45:43 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: The Sting

Here's something that's been bothering me ever since I originally read the
ruleset before I joined...  In the "Trial By Jury" rule, it refers to a
"Prosaecuter" and "Conseacuter", but there is no consensus as to spelling.
"Prosaecuter" is also spelled "Proseacuter"(both three times), and
"Conseacuter" is also spelled "Consaecuter" and "Consaecutor".

I'd like to fix this, but first I'd like to come to some consensus as to
what the Ackanomic populace-at-large wants to see.  Myself, I'd ditch the
fake Latin "ae"s and just go for Prosecutor and Consecutor(the "or" ending
is proper in this case).  The former has the virtue of even being in the
dictionary; the latter doesn't even have that.  (Otherwise I'd leave this
to the Spelling Bee...)

Anyway, consider this an RFC for a Proposal to change the spellings to make
them all consistent, mostly 'cause they bug me.  :-)  If I don't hear any
dissenting opinions, I'll ditch the "ae"s and "er"s.  Fair warning.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Led Zeppelin:Physical Graffiti
Current Book--Jo Clayton:The Snares of Ibex
Satan oscillate my metallic sonatas

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:52:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Anti-Gumball RFC

> > --If the player is in a location with a building, that building loses its
> > suction grip and starts to dangle.  If there's no building...well, maybe it
> > blows a hole in Ackanomic, creating a kaa of empty space...though what the
> > precise effects of that would be, I don't know.  I'm sure something harfy
> > could be done with it, though.
> 
>   *YES*!  We need to specify more of the geography outside Acka:  Perhaps
> "expeditions" to strange places (for points), and so on.  And I'd like a
> pet black hole in my basement.  :-)

Personally, I oppose the idea that the other side of the disc of
Ackanomic is where other nomics are located, since it's doubtful they share
enough laws in common to be living in such a similar environment.  Maybe
Undead houses should be moved to the other side, to make the Map-Harfer's
job easier.  :-)  Actually, the picture of Ackanomic is a bit fuzzy
anyways, because while we're described as being inside an aluminum sphere
two cat-heights larger than the Monument to Futility, there are also two
hemispheres dangling on immense tethers...where do they fit?  I may have to
submit a consistent Ackanomian description sometime.

> > --The player becomes Radioactive, and may not possess any living entities
> > (the Chartreuse Goose, Little Lamb, Frankenstein Monsters, something like
> > that)for thirty days.  (There may be other effects here, too...)
> 
>   There should at least be a "living" attribute, just as there are
> "tradeable", "nameable", and so on.

Not a bad idea...  As it is, I can just work it into this clause for
now, and make up something more general later.

> > Let me know what you think of these, or suggest others...
> 
>   The player is randomly teleported to a location e couldn't normally go
> to, and might perhaps have trouble leaving?

I don't think there's that many such places, and that might be a bit cruel.
I'd like the effects to sort of run the gamut from Thermonuclear
Annihilation to Quantum Inflation, with most on the bad side so it's still
risky, but a few other possibly good ones too(like score-changing...)

>   Oh, yes, and on a tangent:  Actions upon entities should only be
> performable when in the same location as them.  Just a thought.

Most entities don't have defined locations, either.  Which is something
else that could be fixed.  For instance, owned entities should be either
"portable" or "non-portable"; in the former case they travel with the
player, in the latter case they stay at the player's house.  But this means
more record-keeping for our illustrious Trinket-Harfer...

> > --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
> > Song In My Head--The Carpenters:Top of The World
> > Current Book--Jo Clayton:The Snares of Ibex
> > To know recusion, you must first know recursion.

The Spelling Bee stings my tagline file!

>   Oh, funny.  Of course, I'm re-learning lisp, which probably exaggerated
> its impact on me.

Tail recursion: If you're not sick of it already, see Tail recursion.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Led Zeppelin:Physical Graffiti
Current Book--Jo Clayton:The Snares of Ibex
We meet with friends, we talk carcinogens  [Happy Rhodes]

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:54:36 -0400
From: jordan james <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Pre-Treasure Hunting News

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From:	Phil Ackley [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Friday, June 20, 1997 8:13 PM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Acka: Pre-Treasure Hunting News

Ackanomians,

In a couple of days I am going to announce a new treasure.  It will be a
treasure hunt unlike any treasure hunt Ackanomic has ever seen before.  It
will be a treasure hunt based on a murder mystery!

However, I have a problem.  In it's current form there can only be eight
real participants.  Each person who chooses to participate must be willing
to do the following things.

1) Make certain information available (as specified in the instructions I
will send) in the course of their regular Ackanomic messages.

2) Role-play a certain character in the course of their ackanomic play
while searching for the treasure. (not RPG type of role playing, just
assuming another personality as part of the treasure hunt)

3) Gaurd personal information aboout themselves (as specified in the
instructions I will send).

4) Gather information, and come to a conclusion about the identity ofthe
murderer, and post such information at the appropriate time.

If other players wish to participate, I may be willing to work them in as
extras (ie, court reporters, bartenders, or something, so that they can
participate in the treasure hunt).  Let me know.

My plan is to create trinkets and place them up for auction.  Only players
holding the specified trinkets will be able to participate (each trinket
represents a role), but first I would like to get a feel for who would like
to participate, so if this sounds interesting to you, please let me know.

Mr. Lunatic Fringe

This sounds way cool! If I may I might join the MURDER MYSTERY Tonight! 

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Anti-Gumball RFC

Malenkai wrote:
>[Red Barn wrote:]
> > #transfer devjoe: redbarn: scrollofcrumble
> > #transfer redbarn: devjoe: A$150
> 
> I believe this has timed-out.

That's OK, I ack the trade quoted above.

/dev/joe

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:20:08 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Challenge to Malenkai

As Malenkai's Second, I am relaying Malenkai's reply to breadbox's
Challenge, which e accepts.  Here are his statements on the matter:
<unfurls scroll>

"I, with the full support of the Arts and Antiquities communities, who
have been doing an awful lot of sneering lately, (and with good reason
I might add), accept this challenge, in the name of protecting our
citizens from ever even having to think about such inane and
distracting "art", if you can call it that.  Normally our standards
would prevent even *responding* to a challenge from someone with such
demonstrated poor taste, but this is a chance to avenge the pollution
of the Arts that has been festering in Acka for some time, and make an
example of one of its primary causes! :-)

"Prepare to be vanquished in a game of Double Crash (which admittedly
I have no idea how to play, but it looked interesting.  There is also
a bug in the duels rule about a "Web Page" that me may have to work 
around; I submitted the fix before I went on vacation and I have no
idea what happened to it.  I submitted it again)"

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--Led Zeppelin:D'yer Mak'er
Current Book--Jo Clayton:The Snares of Ibex
Vultures only fly with carrion luggage.

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