Subject: Ackanomic Digest V2 #134
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Ackanomic Digest        Thursday, June 12 1997        Volume 02 : Number 134

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:07:48 -0400
From: jordan james <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Parties

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From:	Bollinger, John C. [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Thursday, June 12, 1997 9:22 AM
To:	[email-masked]'
Subject:	RE: Acka: Parties

/dev/joe wrote:

> Malenkai wrote:
> > I am leaving the (None Yet) Party, with much regrets, and requesting
> > membership in Vulcan (which only has two members).
> 
> Proposed Vulcan Action: Accept Malenkai as a member.
> 
> I approve this action.
> It will happen when ThinMan acks it.
> 
I also approve this action.  Welcome to Vulcan, Malenkai.

ThinMan

I hope you can still rfc on my idea for adding archie comics to the allowed quotes on vulcan malenki do u have pointy ears?

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 00:24:54 +0000
From: "Bascule" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 392 Appeal Verdict

> The Supreme Court, consisting of Justices breadbox and mr cwm,
> unanimously return the following decision on CFJ 392:
> 
> Supreme Court's Decision:  uphold the verdict of FALSE.

> Supreme Court's Reasoning:
> 
> The Supreme Court finds the reasoning of the
> original Judge to be valid, but would like to note that while the
> contracts in question place Bascule in the position of necessarily
> committing a Crime, that is not necessarily the same, and in this case is
> not the same, as necessarily committing an illegality.

Doh! I still don't agree, but there we are. If it wasn't my CFJ, I
probably would. I guess I'd better start tracking those keys, if
whoever's got the current info on 'em would care to forward it to
me. 

Cheers

Bascule 

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:52:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 392 Appeal Verdict

> Doh! I still don't agree, but there we are. If it wasn't my CFJ, I
> probably would. I guess I'd better start tracking those keys, if
> whoever's got the current info on 'em would care to forward it to
> me.

Heh. That would be me, actually. I'm not the last Chartreuse Goose
owner, but I was at the time the last key-related event took place.
Since the Chartreuse Goose changed hands rather frequently after she
left me, I've been keeping one eye out for key-state changes so that
the information wouldn't get out of date and force some officer to go
slog through months of archives.

In fact, I'll post the information here, and that way the complete
current state will be in the archive ... just in case.

- ----- BEGIN KEYSTATE.TXT -----
# Initial distribution by Malenkai:
# 
24 Feb 1997: Gold Key: Somewhere Else, Robert Sevin
24 Feb 1997: Silver Key: Somewhere Else, snowgod
24 Feb 1997: Bronze Key: Somewhere Else, ThinMan
24 Feb 1997: Chartreuse Key: Somewhere Else, /dev/joe
24 Feb 1997: Purple Key: Somewhere Else, Narf

# Narf buries the Purple Key as Treasure.
# 
25 Feb 1997: Purple Key: Narf, Treasure 131.

# snowgod buries the Silver Key as Treasure.
# 
09 Mar 1997: Silver Key: snowgod, Treasure 134.

# Malenkai finds snowgod's treasure.
# 
22 Mar 1997: Silver Key: Treasure 134, Malenkai.

# Malenkai buries the Silver Key as Treasure.
# 
22 Mar 1997: Silver Key: Malenkai, Treasure 137.

# Narf digs up his own treasure, thus getting the Goose, thus losing
# the key and becoming the caretaker of the keys.
#
30 Mar 1997: Purple Key: Treasure 131, Narf.
30 Mar 1997: Purple Key: Narf, Chartreuse Goose.
30 Mar 1997: Purple Key: Chartreuse Goose, Niccolo Flychuck.

# The end of the Cycle, and the passage of Proposal 1943.
#
27 Apr 1997: Purple Key: Niccolo Flychuck, Chartreuse Goose.
27 Apr 1997: Purple Key: Chartreuse Goose, fnord.

[Current State]

Gold Key: Robert Sevin
Silver Key: Treasure 137
Bronze Key: ThinMan
Chartreuse Key: /dev/joe
Purple Key: fnord

[Full List Of History Of Owners]

Gold Key: Robert Sevin
Silver Key: snowgod, Malenkai
Bronze Key: ThinMan
Chartreuse Key: /dev/joe
Purple Key: Narf, Niccolo Flychuck, fnord
- ------ END KEYSTATE.TXT ------

Note that, despite appearances, I do not actually have a script to
parse/generate this file. I just used this format for the hell of it.

Oh, $#!+. Looking at the file now, I see that I forgot to reassign
the Purple Key at the beginning of this Cycle. (Which began only one
day after I had given the key to fnord. He had three days in which to
find someone to give it to, and in those three days I forgot about
it.) Well, that was certainly more than two weeks ago, so I guess it
stands. Sorry, folks. I'll do better next time.

breadbox

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:51:43 -0400
From: Dan Knapp (A.K.A. TheWiz) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Announcements (was Re: Acka: Observation) 

> The Agora ruleset is stored so that you can search for an individual rule
> (or rather, link to individual rule from the master copy), via a Perl
> script. This is a convenient and above all FAST way of browsing the Agora
> archive. Good stuff, really...just a thought. I'm not even CLOSE to knowing
> jack about Web programming. I'm an HTML gimp at best. ;v)

  We (That is, Dev) might make the "standard" means of viewing rules be
only a few at a time - perhaps 10, 5, or even 1 - with links "next" and
"previous", and perhaps a pop-up to choose a set arbitrarily.
  Whatever happens, it is convenient to have the complete ruleset available
as one document, for offline reading.

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:24:17 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: IRC

I'll be lurking on Acka IRC tonite, and fnord is also there.  Stop
by if you feel like it.

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: 12 Jun 1997 20:03:58 CST/CDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: a wee bit o fun 

In case my previous announcement about attaching two of my Gadgets was
ineffective, I am now _strapping_ my Bonus Vote Add-On to my Vending
Machine.

I am lowering the price of a Bonus Vote from my Vending Machine to A$2.

Guy Fawkes

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:01:03 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	Ref T156
        [this space intentionally left blank]

#award : Malenkai : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Malenkai : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Malenkai, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:01:27 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	Ref T157
        [this space intentionally left blank]

#award : Malenkai : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Malenkai : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Malenkai, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:01:49 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	Ref T158
        [this space intentionally left blank]

#award : Malenkai : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Malenkai : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Malenkai, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:02:14 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	Ref T159
        [this space intentionally left blank]

#award : Malenkai : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Malenkai : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Malenkai, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:03:11 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	Ref T160
        [this space intentionally left blank]

#award : Malenkai : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Malenkai : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Malenkai, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:03:40 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	Ref T161
        [this space intentionally left blank]

#award : Malenkai : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Malenkai : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Malenkai, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:04:35 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	Ref T162
        [this space intentionally left blank]

#award : Malenkai : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Malenkai : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Malenkai, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: 12 Jun 1997 20:20:20 CST/CDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Ack: enough 

I am burying my Vending Machine.  The map to the treasure reads as
follows:

       This treasure shall be found by the first player whom Guy Fawkes
publically praises as a hoopy frood.

Guy Fawkes

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:35:01 -0400
From: jordan james <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: IRC

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Subject:	Acka: IRC

I'll be lurking on Acka IRC tonite, and fnord is also there.  Stop
by if you feel like it.

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

Acka irc ? where will I find this malenkai?=20

_ your proud protog=E9 Karma (where can I buy a shovel)

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:40:30 -0400
From: jordan james <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: a wee bit o fun

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From:	[email-masked] [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Thursday, June 12, 1997 4:04 PM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Acka: a wee bit o fun

In case my previous announcement about attaching two of my Gadgets was
ineffective, I am now _strapping_ my Bonus Vote Add-On to my Vending
Machine.

I am lowering the price of a Bonus Vote from my Vending Machine to A$2.

Guy Fawkes

I wish to buy 2 bonus votes from guy fawkes and tuck them in my back pocket.

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:57:31 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV 

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	 1 Hurdy Gurdy

#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Mr. Lunatic Fringe, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:58:50 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV 

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	 7 Hurdy Gurdy

#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Mr. Lunatic Fringe, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:58:46 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV 

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	 6 Hurdy Gurdy

#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Mr. Lunatic Fringe, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:58:41 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV 

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	 5 Hurdy Gurdy

#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Mr. Lunatic Fringe, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:58:37 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV 

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	 4 Hurdy Gurdy

#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Mr. Lunatic Fringe, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:58:33 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV 

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	 3 Hurdy Gurdy

#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Mr. Lunatic Fringe, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:58:28 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: BV 

I buy four Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.  I am burying
them.  I reveal the following potential information about the map to this
treasure:

	 2 Hurdy Gurdy

#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : -8 A$ :
#award : Guy Fawkes : 4 A$ :
#award : Mr. Lunatic Fringe : 4 bonusvote :
#transfer : Mr. Lunatic Fringe, Buried : 4 bonusvote

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:02:41 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: IRC 

>
>Acka irc ? where will I find this malenkai?
>
>_ your proud protog=E9 Karma (where can I buy a shovel)

Ackanomic IRC can be found (with a java capable web browser) at
http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~snowgod or with any standard IRC client at
wilma.che.utexas.edu port 9942 channel #Ackanomic

Mr. Lunatic Finger

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:07:54 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: BV

Lunatic Fringe wrote:

[cut and paste of some attempted actions deleted]

> Malenkai
> Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

ROTFL!

I didn't realise you changed your name again.  I think I should get
some royalties :)

IAC, the treasure burying fails.

The real Malenkai
accept no cheap cut&paste imitations
treasure harfer
wearing a silly vacation hat

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:28:46 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: BV 

>Lunatic Fringe wrote:
>
>[cut and paste of some attempted actions deleted]
>
>> Malenkai
>> Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat
>
>ROTFL!
>
>I didn't realise you changed your name again.  I think I should get
>some royalties :)

Hehehe.  How funny.  I apologize for trying to steal your name :).  But I
don't think it make the treasure burying fail.  I obviously was the one who
sent the message (and the fact that I cut and pasted a little too much
shouldn't affect that.

Do I need to submit a CFJ?

Mr Lunatic "Malenkai" Fringe
expert in Silly Vacation Hats

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:29:02 -0400
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: BV 

>I am lowering the price of a Bonus Vote from my Vending Machine to A$2.
>
>Guy Fawkes

I am buying 4 Bonus Votes from Guy Fawkes' Vending Machine.

#award You can call me al : -A$8 : Bonus Votes
#award Guy Fawkes : A$4 : Bonus Votes
#award You can call me Al : 4 Bonus Votes : Oh, you need a reason for this
as well? ;v)
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:28:10 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: BV

> Hehehe.  How funny.  I apologize for trying to steal your name :).  But I
> don't think it make the treasure burying fail.  I obviously was the one who
> sent the message (and the fact that I cut and pasted a little too much
> shouldn't affect that.
> 
> Do I need to submit a CFJ?

By the time you posted your messages, the vending machine was no longer
vending, as far as I can see, so you never had the BVs in the first
place.

Malenkai
whose name is probably not half Finnish-Bantu :)

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:33:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: BV

On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Phil Ackley wrote:

> >Lunatic Fringe wrote:
> >
> >[cut and paste of some attempted actions deleted]
> >
> >> Malenkai
> >> Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat
> >
> >ROTFL!
> >
> >I didn't realise you changed your name again.  I think I should get
> >some royalties :)
> 
> 
> Hehehe.  How funny.  I apologize for trying to steal your name :).  But I
> don't think it make the treasure burying fail.  I obviously was the one who
> sent the message (and the fact that I cut and pasted a little too much
> shouldn't affect that.
> 
> Do I need to submit a CFJ?

I believe the Vending machine had been buriedbefore any of your attempts
at purchase.  I assume that it is impossible to buy Bonus Votes from it
under these circumstances.  Just in case I am wrong though, I'm buying 5
Bonus Votes from it.

> 
> Mr Lunatic "Malenkai" Fringe
> expert in Silly Vacation Hats
> 
> 
> 

                                     - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:34:31 -0400
From: jordan james <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: IRC

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From:	Malenkai [SMTP:[email-masked]]
Sent:	Thursday, June 12, 1997 8:24 PM
To:	[email-masked]
Subject:	Acka: IRC

I'll be lurking on Acka IRC tonite, and fnord is also there.  Stop
by if you feel like it.

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

I tried to connect to the irc and kept getting disconnected every time I =
would try to type something I don't mean to be a downer but that really =
sucked!! How do I stay connected?

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