Subject: Ackanomic Digest V2 #117
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Ackanomic Digest        Saturday, June 7 1997        Volume 02 : Number 117

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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 21:55:21 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Clarifications

Alfvaen wrote:

> what if I call a single auction, for several items, which are
> distinct from each other in value and description? 

I do not believe you can do this.  Call seperate auctions.

Malenkai
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 19:20:13 -0700
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: SBoC Random OC determination

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Dice rolls requested by: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Rolls also sent to:
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# I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
# delivered from the spell book of chorg based on the following
# schedule:
# 1 - go fish
# 2 - map shard
# 3 - untouch me
# 4 - share my expenses
# 5 - share my income
# 6 - swinging sale
# 7 - tactical retreat
# 8 - paratroop
# 9 - foul fowl
# 10 - truthseeker
# 11 - fix my gadget
# 12 - scientist for a day
# 13 - art thief

No. of sides on every die:     13
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

      1

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> #T Acka: SBoC Random OC determination
> 
> #C I am using the dice server to determine the random otzma card
> #C delivered from the spell book of chorg based on the following
> #C schedule:
> #C 1 - go fish
> #C 2 - map shard
> #C 3 - untouch me
> #C 4 - share my expenses
> #C 5 - share my income
> #C 6 - swinging sale
> #C 7 - tactical retreat
> #C 8 - paratroop
> #C 9 - foul fowl
> #C 10 - truthseeker
> #C 11 - fix my gadget
> #C 12 - scientist for a day
> #C 13 - art thief

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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 22:22:34 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Otzma Day

I am declaring an Otzma Day.  The cards will be created in 3
days, it would seem.  If whoever harfed the parameters could tell
me how many cards I may create, I would be most appreciative.  The
language of rule 1240.1, section III, subsection 5, is a little iffy.

Malenkai
Acting Runemaker

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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:10:19 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Auction Clarifications

> Alfvaen wrote:
> 
> > what if I call a single auction, for several items, which are
> > distinct from each other in value and description? 
> 
> I do not believe you can do this.  Call seperate auctions.

I find no provision in the Auction rule to say that auctioning disparate
items is prohibited.  It may be intended only for single items or groups of
identical ones, which may determine game custom, but I don't see anything
against it in the rules.

Would you still have a problem with auctioning, say, three different
trinkets that are all A$5 in a single auction?

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Me Mom & Morgentaler:Shiva Space Machine
Current Book--Steven Brust:Five Hundred Years After
Her hair spilled out like rootbeer...

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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:31:29 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Rebirth, Renaissance, Etc.

I am planting my Amber Banana Tree Seed.  In two weeks, the Tree will
exist once more!  (And hopefully by then I will have completed my AP report
on its life cycle...)

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Me Mom & Morgentaler:Shiva Space Machine
Current Book--Steven Brust:Five Hundred Years After
The road to hell has a silver lining.

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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:02:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  further personal info

On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, Jason Orendorff wrote:

> 1.  What's the best movie you've seen in the past year?

the best new release I've seen in the past year is Fargo, which a friend
and I rented.  Probably the best movie of any kind I've seen in the past
year was Citizen Kane, which was playing at a local theatre.

> 
> 2.  What's the worst movie you've seen in the past year?

This is like, impossibly hard to answer.  As I mentioned earlier, my
favorite TV show is "Mystery Science Theatre 3000," which is devoted to
ripping on truly terrible films.  Even if you leave these shows out, my
friends and I still like to watch a lot of real shlock.  So much that I
can't really think of anything specific, they've all sort of melded
together.  I can tell you that the worst film I've ever seen in a theatre
is "The Ghost in the machine," which was out something like 5 years ago.

> 
> (Big-screen movies you've rented or seen on TV count, but made-for-TV
> movies don't.)
> 
> Mohammed
> Weird dogs from Brazil suddenly blew up just when things were looking
> up.
> 

                                - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 23:58:25 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Short on Cash

In my various capacities as both a player and the Godfather, the
following actions are occurring in the order specified:

1) As Godfather, I am publishing the following odds:

The odds of a public message being posted by a player other than
Malenkai in the next 7 days are 530 to 1.  

2) The Godfather is taking bets on this event, with a maximum
bet of A$1.

3) I, Malenkai, am taking the A$1 side of this bet, wagering A$1.

4) The Godfather acks this bet

#award Malenkai: -1 A$ : long shot wager
#award Narfalone Family: -530 A$ : covering the wager

The Godfather
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 00:21:29 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Proposal 2051

> Proposal 2051

This being a public message within 7 days of the recent
wager posted and acked by me, Malenkai wins the bet.

#award Malenkai: 530 A$ : winning a wager

The Godfather
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat

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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:31:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Chorg

I am making a Spell Book of Chorg.

- -- 
Mohammed
Inventor
The deal was a dog in a poke.  A pig in a whatnot.

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Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 00:26:06 -0400
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 399 (Bascule)

CFJ 399 has been assigned to Bascule

Clerk of the Courts
Wearing a Silly Vacation Hat
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Call For Judgment 399
  Subject: Auction
Initiator: Alfvaen
    Judge: Bascule (selected Jun 07, 1997, 00:26h EDT)
Judgement:

Statement:

It is permissible under the Rules to call a single Auction to auction
off a group of objects that do not all have the same value or
description, without having to do so as a single lot.

Alfvaen's Reasoning:

There is nothing in Rule 516, "Auctions", to prohibit such an action.  It
does not even implicitly state that an Auction can only be called for a
single type of object only.  "1 item" is a default quantity for an auction,
but then the Speaker is the default Auctioneer, too, so it should only hold
if there is no other specification.  The requirement that a single minimum
bid be specified might be problematic if a group of items widely disparate
in value are auctioned, but it is not an absolute prohibition.  If
disparate-item Auctions are not held, is it merely because nobody thinks to
do so?  Does that amount to "game custom"?

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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:42:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 398 (Vynd)

I accept judgement.

                              - Vynd

[email-masked]

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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:41:23 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Another Auction

While the legality of my auctioning multiple disparate items separately in
the same auction is settled, I might as well start on getting rid of them
one by one...

I am auctioning off my lovely "travesty"!  This painstaking hand-crafted
bit of chaos...well, actually machine-crafted, but meticulously reproduced
by hand("cut and paste" is for wimps!)could be yours!  Since it has a value
of A$10 all by itself(though it would be worth far more to a
collector), I am setting that as the minimum bid.  The auction shall be
public, I shall be the Auctioneer, and it will not be Shubik.

The auction will close at...let's see, what is it now?...about 12:40 am 
6/10, Ackatime, unless of course bidding is still going on by then.

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- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--21 Guitar Hits
Current Book--Steven Brust:Five Hundred Years After
All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door.

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