Subject: Ackanomic Digest V2 #93
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Ackanomic Digest         Friday, May 23 1997         Volume 02 : Number 093

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:41:21 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  P1981 rejected (Trinity)

Yesterday this was reported as accepted, with 5 votes against.

Niccolo Flychuck

On Wed, 21 May 1997, Acrobot wrote:

> Proposal 1981
> Trinity
> Niccolo Flychuck
> 
> Votes cast by active players:  17 / 21 = 80.952381%
> Yes:  8    No:  6     Present:  3   ...Proposal rejected.
> 
> 
> YES votes:
> 	Atilla the Pun
> 	IdiotBoy
> 	/dev/joe
> 	Niccolo Flychuck
> 	Antimatter
> 	snowgod
> 	Guy Fawkes
> 	Vynd
> 
> NO votes:
> 	Bascule
> 	Techno
> 	You can call me Al
> 	mr cwm
> 	ThinMan
> 	Mohammed
> 
> PRESENT votes:
> 	two-star
> 	Alfvaen
> 	breadbox
> 
> Active players who did not vote:
> 	Calvin N Hobbes
> 	Robert Sevin
> 	Red Barn
> 	fnord
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 10:04:50 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : New Church !

Since I 'm not sure at this time whether it is possible for me to be a
member of more than one Church, I'll be leaving the Church of Seleya (when
it becomes possible to become a member of more than one Church, I'll
probably ask to become a member once more)

Mr.Nacho is still a member fo the Markovian Church, so, for now, it seems
that he can't be a member of the Church of Odo on the Wormhole. He is
always welcome to become a member , once it is legal for him to do so.

Consequently, the quoted message below might have not happened. 

I am hereby anouncing that I am the Founder of the Church of Odo on the
Wormhole, and its members are

Niccolo Flychuck (Founder)
IdiotBoy
Robert Sevin
CareseraC
You can call me Al
mr cwm

I am ordaining IdiotBoy as a Priest of the Church of Odo on the Wormhole.

Furtheremore I am giving a A$100 to the Church of Odo on the Wormhole.
 I am also giving  A$100 to the MetaMorph Organization

Niccolo Flychuck

On Wed, 21 May 1997, Uri Bruck wrote:

> I am hereby Founding a new Church. 
> The name of the Church is the   The Church of Odo on the Wormhole, and its
> members are :
> 
> Niccolo Flychuck (Founder)
> Mr.Nacho  (the player previously known as snowgod
> IdiotBoy
> Robert Sevin
> CarseraC
> You can callme Al
> mr cwm
> 
> I am also requesting that the Postmaster make a list available to the
> Church, and a list available to the Organization MetaMorph.
> 
> 
> Niccolo Flychuck
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 00:17:01 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 384 (fnord) 

Call For Judgment
Subject: Possible Polythiesm
Initiator: Alfvaen
Judge: fnord
Judegement:

Statement:

A player can be a member of more than one Church at a time.

Alfvaen's Reasoning:

According to Rule 102, "Resolving Conflicts", if two sections of the same
rule conflict, and there is no other section of the rule that resolves the
conflict, then the statement occurring later in the rule takes precedence.
I quote the revelant sections of Rule 1301, "Churches":

(Rule 1301)
      6. A player may not be a member of more than one Church at the same
time.

7. a. Any player may petition the Founder of a Church for membership
in that Church.
b. If Church Policy has nothing to say on accepting new members, then
Church membership will be up to the Founder. However, a Player cannot
become a member of a Church until the Founder of the Church sends a
public announcement to that effect.

So, in essence, clause 6 applies only so long as it does not contradict the
Church Founder's own whims regarding membership of eir Church, whose effect
on Church membership takes precedence by occurring later in the rule.  No
player can belong to more than once Church at a time, unless the founders of
the latterly-joined Churches decide that they are willing to accept the
player.  (Subject to Church Policy, of course, but there is nothing to say
that Church Policy has to reject players who are already members of
Churches, either.)  Clause 6 is thus entirely nullified by Clause 7, since
it can be ignored by Church Founders and makers of Church Policy with
impunity.

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:05:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : New Church !

On Thu, 22 May 1997, Uri Bruck wrote:

> I am ordaining IdiotBoy as a Priest of the Church of Odo on the Wormhole.
> 

Whew, now I only have to donate to ONE church.

> 
> Furtheremore I am giving a A$100 to the Church of Odo on the Wormhole.
>  I am also giving  A$100 to the MetaMorph Organization
> 
> 
> 
> Niccolo Flychuck

I donate A$100 to the MetaMorph organization.

I donate 10 PFAlfvaen to the Church of Odo on the Wormhole.

IB

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:18:47 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Elections

I knew I forgot to do something yesterday.  The nomination periods for
Senator (seat Rebus 8-()) and for Ackaphysicist are over.  The
candidates are:

Senator:

IdiotBoy
Robert Sevin
You can call me Al

Ackaphysicist:

Alfvaen
CarsesraC
Red Barn
two-star
You can call me Al

The election for each office begins now, and ends in 72 hours.  Send
your votes to me.  It is customary to vote privately (replying to this
message will work), but votes will be made public at the conclusion of
the election.

ThinMan
Acting Speaker

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:00:07 -0800
From: "Jerome Herrman" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:Acid rain protection 

Microsoft Mail v3.0 (MAPI 1.0 Transport) IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note
From: Jerome Herrman
To:  [email-masked]'
Subject:  Acka:Acid rain protection
Date: 1997-05-22 08:57
Priority: 3
Message ID: 9CEC786CBED1D011937CA2AA1C24A000
Conversation ID: Acka:Acid rain protection

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I am creating a trinket called the "Bronze Umbrella" valued at A$100.  It   
is a rather large umbrella fashioned of the finest bronze in Acka.

#trinket Techno:Bronze Umbrella:100:may 22 1997

I am positioning the Bronze Umbrella so as to protect the Amber Banana   
Tree from acid rain.  Hopefully the auction will continue and someone   
will still make sure we all see an acid rain dance.  It could be quite   
exciting.

Techno

Bumper Sticker: "Horn doesn't work; Watch for finger"

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 08:54:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:Acid rain protection

> I am creating a trinket called the "Bronze Umbrella" valued at A$100.  It   
> is a rather large umbrella fashioned of the finest bronze in Acka.
> 
> #trinket Techno:Bronze Umbrella:100:may 22 1997
> 
> I am positioning the Bronze Umbrella so as to protect the Amber Banana   
> Tree from acid rain.  Hopefully the auction will continue and someone   
> will still make sure we all see an acid rain dance.  It could be quite   
> exciting.

Well, I did realize that this was a possibility too.  I considered creating
a Bronze Umbrella myself and then keeping it out of action, but I didn't
want to be a _total_ spoilsport...:-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Song In My Head--George Michael:Praying For Time
Current Book--C.S. Friedman:Black Sun Rising
I'll bare one precious scar that only you will know again

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 10:08:39 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka:Acid rain protection

Techno wrote:

> I am creating a trinket called the "Bronze Umbrella" valued at A$100.
> It   
> is a rather large umbrella fashioned of the finest bronze in Acka.
> 
> #trinket Techno:Bronze Umbrella:100:may 22 1997
> 
[etc.]

I was pretty sure that I remembered a Bronze Umbrella already being
created, and, sure enough, it is listed on Malenkai's trinkets page.
According to the p/e page, the Bronze Umbrella is in /dev/joe's
possession.  Therefore, Techno's attempt to create an identically-named
trinket fails.  Indeed, it may even be a Crime.

ThinMan
Acting Speaker

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:32:24 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: A call to arms

Vynd wrote:

> As a Senator, Crazy-French Scotsman, and citizen of ackanomic, I feel
> that
> it is my duty, painful as it may be, to call for an Inquistion on
> fnord,
> our Harfmeister.
> 
> I have nothing against fnord, brave soul that he is.  Unfortunately,
> he
> hasn't designated any proposals as harfy in several weeks now, and as
> these graphs here show <rustle rustle> this is having a negative
> effect on
> the economy.  Never let it be said that I, Vynd, will allow the
> quality of
> life here in Acka to decline without a fight.  May god have mercy on
> our
> souls.
> 
This is a call for a Hearing.  The acting Count Tabula is obliged to
open the Hearing as described by R360.  If no acting Count Tabula has
otherwise been selected, then nachogod, as president, is the acting
Count Tabula.

ThinMan
Acting Speaker

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:01:16 -0700
From: Summoned Spider <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Hubert Feathers 

This notice is to inform you that one (1) copy of the map to the
Hubert Feathers has been issued to the player with the name Alfvaen.

You do not need to respond to this notice. It is provided for
informational purposes only.

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:11:38 -0700
From: Joshua Nave <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Acid Rain Contract Auction

Brian Raiter wrote:
> 
> > Now I am at the moment undecided as to whether or not I wish to
> > destroy the Amber Banana Tree.  On the one hand, it may be harfy, so
> > that it would be a shame to destroy such a potential boon to the
> > game.  On the other hand, I have, in my admittedly brief sojourn,
> > never seen the Amber Banana Tree or its fruit come into play in the
> > game, so perhaps it would not be missed were it to go.
> 
> There have been two purchases of Amber Bananas in my somewhat less
> brief time in Ackanomic. Currently one is owned by /dev/joe.
> 
> The Amber Banana Tree was consigned to a kind of limbo when Techno
> left the game. There were some attempts to change the rule in order to
> rescue the Tree, but eventually Techno rejoined the game, making this
> unnecessary.
> 
> Amber Bananas are also made use of by The Crystal Chalice Rule (which
> is presumably why /dev/joe is hanging on to the one he has).
> 
> breadbox

Actualy, I know of at least three purchases.  DJ has one, Malenkai
has/had? one, and I purchased one.

Narf

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: The Acid Rain Contract Auction

>> There have been two purchases of Amber Bananas in my somewhat less
>> brief time in Ackanomic. Currently one is owned by /dev/joe.
> 
> Actualy, I know of at least three purchases.  DJ has one, Malenkai
> has/had? one, and I purchased one.

Whoops. I meant to say that there have been at least two purchases.

breadbox
chastened Historian

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 14:45:34 -0700
From: Alexandre Muniz <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 379 Judgement

Call For Judgement 379
Subject: A Tounge Twisting Paradox
Initiator: Atilla the Pun
Judge: two-star
Judgement: False
Statement:

The legality of an Acting Senator voting to confirm the appointment of a
Justice, in the case where the Senator replaced by the Acting Senator is 
not
on Vacation, cannot be determined with finality.

Atilla the Pun's Reasoning:

This is a Paradox Win CFJ.

First, the applicable rules and rulings:
[all statements in brackets other than this one are my own 
clarifications
based on the way I cut the documents.]

>From Rule 416:xJustices are appointed by the President and confirmed by Senate vote.x

Rule 411:
The Office of Senator has four Seats.  The Speaker is not eligible to
hold this office.  The Senators are collectively an Institution known
as the Senate. The Speaker or Acting Speaker is the titular head of
the Senate, with the title of ProConsul.  When a Senate vote is tied,
the ProConsul may cast a tiebreaking vote on the matter in question.

>From Rule 409:x(ii)  Duties:
The Duties of an Office are the tasks that the
Officer(s) are expected to carry out to facilitate
the conduct of Ackanomic business.  Duties tend to
be typified by the compilation, maintenance, and
distribution of information.
(iii) Privileges:
The Privileges of an Office are the considerations
the Officer(s) receive according to the Rules
regulating the Office.  Examples can include the
receipt of Ackanomic currency, the ability to cast
extra votes in certain circumstance, or special
consideration with regards to making appointments
or issuing CFJ decisions.
(iv)  Acting Officers:
The Rules may specify conditions under which a Player
serves in an Office in an "Acting" capacity.  In such
a case, the Player is responsible for performing all
of the Duties without receiving any of the Privileges
of the Office, except for Privileges which are also
explicitly defined to be Duties by the rules, or Privileges
required to perform explicitly defined Duties, or Privileges
of the office when the Acting officer is filling in for a
vacationing player. For any given Seat, there can be
an "Acting" Officer only if the Seat is vacant.
Non-voting players may only be acting officers for offices
which may normally be held by non-voting players.x

>From CFJ 223:xClearly the vote [to confirm a justice] is to "carry out to facilitate 
the
conduct of Ackanomic
business".  Confirming Justices is Ackanomic business, thus a "duty" 
from
(ii) above.

Clearly it is also "the ability to cast extra votes in certain 
circumstance,
or special consideration with regards to making appointments", thus a
privilege from (iii) above.

Therefore it is both a duty and a privilege.x

By the reasoning used by Malenkai in CFJ 223, the confirmation of 
Justices is
a Duty associated with the office of Senator.  Therefore, an Acting 
Senator
must vote to confirm a Justice.

However, again by Malenkai's reasoning, the confirmation of Justices is 
also
a Privilege.  Therefore, an Acting Senator may only perform it if one of 
the
following conditions is true:

(a) It is a Privilege which is also explicitly defined to be a Duty by 
the
rules
(b) It is a Privilege which is required to perform explicitly defined 
Duties
(c) The Acting officer is filling in for a Vacationing player.

Obviously, (c) is not the case; this was part of the hypothetical 
situation
set up by the statement.

At first glance, the confirmation of a Justice appears to meet criterion 
(a).
 Though confirmation, by Malenkai's reasoning, is a Privilege, it is 
also a
Duty.  However, nowhere in the ruleset does it explicitly state that
confirmation of Justices is in fact a Duty of Senators; this fact must 
be
inferred from the definition of a Duty.

The definition rule for the Senate (Rule 411, above) does not explicitly
define any Duties, nor, to my knowledge, are there any explicitly 
defined
Duties of the Office of Senator anywhere else in the Rules.  Even if 
there
are, it is difficult to see how a Duty could exist for which it is 
necessary
to confirm a Justice, except for the Duty of confirming Justices.  
Therefore,
since this Duty is nowhere explicitly defined, the Privilege of 
confirming
Justices fails part (b), above.

Since confirmation of Justices is a Privilege for which none of the 
above
conditions apply, then, by Rule 409, an Acting Senator may not confirm a
Justice.  However, since confirmation of Justices is also a Duty, it is
possible for an Acting Senator to confirm a Justice, again by Rule 409.
 Therefore, it is both legal and illegal for the Acting Senator to 
confirm
the Justice, causing a state of paradox.

Judge's Comments: 
The reasoning for the illegality of the Acting Senator to confirm a 
justice is sound, although what the initiator calls Rule 409 appears to 
be rule 401 in my copy of the rules. However, while the rule defining 
duties generally makes duties permissible, it does not supercede any
rule that makes specific duties illegal.
There is also the simple matter of precedence:
by rule 102,
"If two statements in the same rule conflict with each other, and the
rule doesn't define a way to resolve the conflict, then the statement
which appears later in the rule takes precedence."
Duties are defined in section (ii) of r401, Acting Officers are defined
in section (iv) Therefore, by precedence, the action is illegal.
This case should probably be patched to work as intended, either by 
loosening the restriction that duties that are priveliges must be
explicitly defined as such in order to be legal for Acting Officers, or
by explicitly defining the duty in question as a duty.
  As an aside, there has been some question as to whether this is in
fact a paradox win CFJ. I will merely note that I have not been asked to
judge this.

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Date: 22 May 1997 17:24:44 CST/CDT
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka: CFJ 383 

Although I am listed as the initiator of CFJ 383, I did not initiate it,
but I would appreciate knowing who did.  It is a very interesting CFJ.

Guy Fawkes

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 18:36:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: Aaron Humphrey <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 383

> Although I am listed as the initiator of CFJ 383, I did not initiate it,
> but I would appreciate knowing who did.  It is a very interesting CFJ.

Luckily, in the CFJ itself it was kind enough to list "ThinMan's
Reasoning".  So I think we can track down the culprit.  :-)

- --
- --Alfvaen(Web page: http://www.terranet.ab.ca/~aaron/)
Current Album--Cock Robin:After Here Through Midland
Current Book--C.S. Friedman:Black Sun Rising
You speak an infinite deal of nothing.

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Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:41:11 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 379 Judgement 

[This was sent first to the list by Two-star.  I believe I am required to
send it out too.  BWG.

  Mr. Nacho

Did we decide if Atilla gets the goose or not?]

Call For Judgement 379
Subject: A Tounge Twisting Paradox
Initiator: Atilla the Pun
Judge: two-star
Judgement: False
Statement:

The legality of an Acting Senator voting to confirm the appointment of a
Justice, in the case where the Senator replaced by the Acting Senator is
not
on Vacation, cannot be determined with finality.

Atilla the Pun's Reasoning:

This is a Paradox Win CFJ.

First, the applicable rules and rulings:
[all statements in brackets other than this one are my own
clarifications
based on the way I cut the documents.]

>From Rule 416:xJustices are appointed by the President and confirmed by
>Senate vote.x

Rule 411:
The Office of Senator has four Seats.  The Speaker is not eligible to
hold this office.  The Senators are collectively an Institution known
as the Senate. The Speaker or Acting Speaker is the titular head of
the Senate, with the title of ProConsul.  When a Senate vote is tied,
the ProConsul may cast a tiebreaking vote on the matter in question.

>From Rule 409:x(ii)  Duties:
The Duties of an Office are the tasks that the
Officer(s) are expected to carry out to facilitate
the conduct of Ackanomic business.  Duties tend to
be typified by the compilation, maintenance, and
distribution of information.
(iii) Privileges:
The Privileges of an Office are the considerations
the Officer(s) receive according to the Rules
regulating the Office.  Examples can include the
receipt of Ackanomic currency, the ability to cast
extra votes in certain circumstance, or special
consideration with regards to making appointments
or issuing CFJ decisions.
(iv)  Acting Officers:
The Rules may specify conditions under which a Player
serves in an Office in an "Acting" capacity.  In such
a case, the Player is responsible for performing all
of the Duties without receiving any of the Privileges
of the Office, except for Privileges which are also
explicitly defined to be Duties by the rules, or Privileges
required to perform explicitly defined Duties, or Privileges
of the office when the Acting officer is filling in for a
vacationing player. For any given Seat, there can be
an "Acting" Officer only if the Seat is vacant.
Non-voting players may only be acting officers for offices
which may normally be held by non-voting players.x

>From CFJ 223:xClearly the vote [to confirm a justice] is to "carry out to
>facilitate
the
conduct of Ackanomic
business".  Confirming Justices is Ackanomic business, thus a "duty"
from
(ii) above.

Clearly it is also "the ability to cast extra votes in certain
circumstance,
or special consideration with regards to making appointments", thus a
privilege from (iii) above.

Therefore it is both a duty and a privilege.x

By the reasoning used by Malenkai in CFJ 223, the confirmation of
Justices is
a Duty associated with the office of Senator.  Therefore, an Acting
Senator
must vote to confirm a Justice.

However, again by Malenkai's reasoning, the confirmation of Justices is
also
a Privilege.  Therefore, an Acting Senator may only perform it if one of
the
following conditions is true:

(a) It is a Privilege which is also explicitly defined to be a Duty by
the
rules
(b) It is a Privilege which is required to perform explicitly defined
Duties
(c) The Acting officer is filling in for a Vacationing player.

Obviously, (c) is not the case; this was part of the hypothetical
situation
set up by the statement.

At first glance, the confirmation of a Justice appears to meet criterion
(a).
 Though confirmation, by Malenkai's reasoning, is a Privilege, it is
also a
Duty.  However, nowhere in the ruleset does it explicitly state that
confirmation of Justices is in fact a Duty of Senators; this fact must
be
inferred from the definition of a Duty.

The definition rule for the Senate (Rule 411, above) does not explicitly
define any Duties, nor, to my knowledge, are there any explicitly
defined
Duties of the Office of Senator anywhere else in the Rules.  Even if
there
are, it is difficult to see how a Duty could exist for which it is
necessary
to confirm a Justice, except for the Duty of confirming Justices.
Therefore,
since this Duty is nowhere explicitly defined, the Privilege of
confirming
Justices fails part (b), above.

Since confirmation of Justices is a Privilege for which none of the
above
conditions apply, then, by Rule 409, an Acting Senator may not confirm a
Justice.  However, since confirmation of Justices is also a Duty, it is
possible for an Acting Senator to confirm a Justice, again by Rule 409.
 Therefore, it is both legal and illegal for the Acting Senator to
confirm
the Justice, causing a state of paradox.

Judge's Comments:
The reasoning for the illegality of the Acting Senator to confirm a
justice is sound, although what the initiator calls Rule 409 appears to
be rule 401 in my copy of the rules. However, while the rule defining
duties generally makes duties permissible, it does not supercede any
rule that makes specific duties illegal.
There is also the simple matter of precedence:
by rule 102,
"If two statements in the same rule conflict with each other, and the
rule doesn't define a way to resolve the conflict, then the statement
which appears later in the rule takes precedence."
Duties are defined in section (ii) of r401, Acting Officers are defined
in section (iv) Therefore, by precedence, the action is illegal.
This case should probably be patched to work as intended, either by
loosening the restriction that duties that are priveliges must be
explicitly defined as such in order to be legal for Acting Officers, or
by explicitly defining the duty in question as a duty.
  As an aside, there has been some question as to whether this is in
fact a paradox win CFJ. I will merely note that I have not been asked to
judge this.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:42:39 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 383 

>Although I am listed as the initiator of CFJ 383, I did not initiate it,
>but I would appreciate knowing who did.  It is a very interesting CFJ.
>
>Guy Fawkes

I apologize for the, Mr. Fawkes.  ThinMan is the true initiator =tor of
this CFJ.  Your name was stuck in my template.

snowgod

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Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 00:18:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Frederic Mc Coy <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: A call to arms

On Thu, 22 May 1997, Bollinger, John C. wrote:

> 
> Vynd wrote:
> 
> > As a Senator, Crazy-French Scotsman, and citizen of ackanomic, I feel
> > that
> > it is my duty, painful as it may be, to call for an Inquistion on
> > fnord,
> > our Harfmeister.
> > 
> > I have nothing against fnord, brave soul that he is.  Unfortunately,
> > he
> > hasn't designated any proposals as harfy in several weeks now, and as
> > these graphs here show <rustle rustle> this is having a negative
> > effect on
> > the economy.  Never let it be said that I, Vynd, will allow the
> > quality of
> > life here in Acka to decline without a fight.  May god have mercy on
> > our
> > souls.
> > 
> This is a call for a Hearing.  The acting Count Tabula is obliged to
> open the Hearing as described by R360.  If no acting Count Tabula has
> otherwise been selected, then nachogod, as president, is the acting
> Count Tabula.
> 
> 
> ThinMan
> Acting Speaker

Unfortunately, this is incorrect.  Rule 408 clearly states that if Count
Tabula is on vacation, then the Tabulator will assume Count Tabula's
duties.  Furthermore, it also states that the only way in which the office
of Count Tabula can be flled is by appointment by the Tabulator.  Seeing
as how Mohammed is the Tabulator, and warned us that he would not be
around until, I think it was Sunday, this Inquisition was rather poorly
timed.  Thus, I hearby retract this call for a hearing, I'll try again
later when Mohammed is around.

                                   - Vynd

[email-masked]

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