Subject: Ackanomic Digest V2 #27
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Ackanomic Digest        Friday, March 28 1997        Volume 02 : Number 027

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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:59:05 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Retracting P1685 (acrobot)

I am retracting P185 do to a problem with the titles.  I'll sresubmit it
shortly.

#retract proposal 1685

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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:59:09 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Retracting P1865 (acrobot)

>I am retracting P185 do to a problem with the titles.  I'll sresubmit it
>shortly.
>
>#ignore retract proposal 1685

I really screwed thaqt one up didn't I?  so...

I am retracting P1865 due to a problem with the titles.  I have resubmitted
a fixed version.

snowgod
#retract proposal 1865

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:09:32 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: CFJ 365 (Red Barn)

On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Malenkai wrote:

>Red Barn has been chosen.
>
>Clerk of the Courts
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Call For Judgement 365
>  Subject: Ad Hoc
>Initiator: Malenkai
>    Judge: Red Barn (selected Mar 25, 1997, 22:43h EST)
>Judgement:

  I ack this.

- -Red Barn

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:27:35 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Treasure/Auction

>I am hereby initiating an auction for my trinket called 'Earth'.  
>Minimum bid A$10.  Not only could this trinket be useful given its name
>(with or without some of the proposals in the queue), it will allow you
>to retrieve the silver key whenever you want, yet avoid the nasty gadget
>eating!  Its like having the silver key for free!
>
>Start Bidding!
>
>Malenkai
>

  I bid A$10 on Earth.

- -Red Barn

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:54:56 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : Swingpoints

Just realized that I have neglected to report SwingPoints.

On Tue. 18 (a week ago) All existing Swingpoints sere destroyed and turned
into point. The Swingpoint ammendment result became publically knowable
after this, so it had no effect on that day.

As far as I can determine, on that date there were four Swinger. Myself
for Vulcan, Mohammed for (None Yet), Strider for the people, and the
formerly vacationing Bascule.

Hence I received 4 Swingpoints
Mohammed recieved 3
Strider received 2
and Bascule received none - zero Weight

Please note that these Swingpoints last only until the last day of the
calendar month.

Niccolo Flychuck
Chess-Umpire

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:44:15 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: acka : Swingpoints

> Just realized that I have neglected to report SwingPoints.
> 
> On Tue. 18 (a week ago) All existing Swingpoints sere destroyed and turned
> into point. The Swingpoint ammendment result became publically knowable
> after this, so it had no effect on that day.

Ugh, what a mess.  Due to your failure to report this, I didn't have it
in the scorelog.  The swingpoints to be converted then were 3 for Niccolo
Flychuck, 2 for Ludwig, and 1 for Strider.  However, Ludwig left the game
before Mar 18; the undead-harfer should note that Ludwig's undead is
haunting 2 swingpoints.

As for the other points, this was before the tornado.  It appears that
in the tornado Strider got Niccolo Flychuck's score and breadbox got
Strider's score.  I have adjusted the scoring for the tornado appropriately.

> Hence I received 4 Swingpoints
> Mohammed recieved 3
> Strider received 2
> and Bascule received none - zero Weight
> 
> Please note that these Swingpoints last only until the last day of the
> calendar month.

Please remind me sometime close to the end of the month so I can record
the score changes.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:02:00 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Just Kidding 

Just Kidding,

I take ThinMans bribe (did that anyway) and am releasing him from Gaol.

snowgod

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:31:14 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: bot weirdness

The bot crashed twice this morning, once on Malenkai's proposal, because 
of something I failed to test, and once on Red Barn's command

#crash

which I put in for testing, meaning to take it out or at least restrict 
the access on it at some later date.  :o)  Oh well.

Partly as a result of the crashes and partly as a result of my 
negligence, you will receive several copies of proposals 1870-1872 
tonight when the digest comes through.  (If you have already received 
those proposals, shame on you.  You should be on acka-voting-digest.)  
They should be pretty much identical; if it matters, the time-stamp on 
the *first* of them is correct.

(I am working on a cgi script that will allow anyone with WWW access to
browse the pending proposals.  This should alleviate some of the anxiety
that can be caused by seeing six hours of blazing conversations about
proposals that you won't receive until midnight.  ...anyway.)

As promised:

I am creating a Trinket worth A$ 10 called the Crash Helmet.  This is
another piece of headwear (-ware?) for Malenkai.  It is blast-proof,
flame-proof, lightning-proof, waterproof, acid-proof, death-magic-proof,
and generally more or less secure (except for the bugs and back doors.)
There is a small flask clipped to the inside containing a concoction that
is 180 proof. 

The Crash Helmet I give to Malenkai.

I create a Trinket worth A$ 10 called the Crashproof Vest.  Across the 
front are printed the words, "What's your clearance, citizen?"  On the 
back is printed "Destruction of Computer property is a Crime, a Felony.  
Have a nice day!"  The Vest, unfortunately for Red Barn, is bright yellow.

I am giving the Crashproof Vest to Red Barn.

- -- Mohammed

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:37:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: bot weirdness

>I create a Trinket worth A$ 10 called the Crashproof Vest.  Across the 
>front are printed the words, "What's your clearance, citizen?"  On the 
>back is printed "Destruction of Computer property is a Crime, a Felony.  
>Have a nice day!"  The Vest, unfortunately for Red Barn, is bright yellow.
>
>I am giving the Crashproof Vest to Red Barn.
>
>-- Mohammed

  I ack this.  I am taking the crashproof vest and putting it inside
itself (while keeping it right-side-out).

- -Red Bran
(er, Barn.)

  I just wanted this on ackanomic, so the location would be officially
listed as itself.

- -Red Barn

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:37:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka:  ootf

Do we have a Financier yet?

- -- Mohammed
out of it, probably

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:05:15 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Registrarness 

The Registrar's page is online at http://www.alaska.net/~snowgod/acka/registrar

It contains a listing of player names, address, and status.  I'm hoping to
automate it soon.

snowgod
Registrar

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:10:33 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Assistant Web-Harfness 

>The Registrar's page is online at
>http://www.alaska.net/~snowgod/acka/registrar
>
>It contains a listing of player names, address, and status.  I'm hoping to
>automate it soon.
>
>snowgod
>Registrar

I hereby volunteer to maintain, as an assistant Web-Harfer, the
afformentioned page.

snowgod

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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:36:42 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : Swingpoints

On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> > Just realized that I have neglected to report SwingPoints.
> > 
> > On Tue. 18 (a week ago) All existing Swingpoints sere destroyed and turned
> > into point. The Swingpoint ammendment result became publically knowable
> > after this, so it had no effect onthat day.
> 
> Ugh, what a mess.  Due to your failure to report this, I didn't have it

Sorry.  I've set myself up a little chart now next to my computer and
colored in the next few Swingpoint dates.
I am also hitting myself over the head with the PartyChessPiece known as a
Qball.

> in the scorelog.  The swingpoints to be converted then were 3 for Niccolo
> Flychuck, 2 for Ludwig, and 1 for Strider.  However, Ludwig left the game
> before Mar 18; theundead-harfer should note that Ludwig's undead is
> haunting 2 swingpoints.

> 
> As for the other points, this was before the tornado.  It appears that
> in the tornado Strider got Niccolo Flychuck's score and breadbox got
> Strider's score.  I have adjusted the scoring for the tornado appropriately.
> 
> > Hence I received 4 Swingpoints
> > Mohammed recieved 3
> > Strider received 2
> > and Bascule received none - zero Weight
> > 
> > Please note that these Swingpoints last only until the last day of the
> > calendar month.
> 
> Please remind me sometime close to the end of the month so I can record
> the score changes.
> 
> /dev/joe
> 
I think this end of the month thing should make this easier for me to
track, at least for the points conversion.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:41:56 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : Swing Point conversion and trade (Malenkai)

I am converting  my four SwingPoints to one Bonus Vote.

I am proposing the following trade

Niccolo +15  -1 Bonus Vote
Malenkai -15 +1 Bonus Vote

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:39:18 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : Swing Point conversion and trade (Malenkai)

Niccolo Flychuck wrote:

> I am proposing the following trade
> 
> Niccolo +15  -1 Bonus Vote
> Malenkai -15 +1 Bonus Vote

I ack this trade.

Malenkai

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:50:13 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: 'Round the Earth

'Round the Earth, Issue 6 (27-Mar-97):
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
NO CONTENT ISSUE
malenkai, managing editor

'Round the Earth has no material to publish this month, except to say
that the editorial staff objects to the rule that requires this issue.
What can we say, we publish when we have stuff to publish, and that
generally does not conform to a monthly schedule.

That is how we became Acka's number one newspaper, by not publishing
gizz like this ;-)

Since the rules require us to make this post, or go bust, we might as
well piggyback the announcement that Malenkai is on IRC now, come
join me.  Perhaps a game of chess, I imagine I'm a pushover; not having
played in 5 years or so.  Malenkai also apologizes to Mohammed for being
on IRC but not responding -- he was out watching the comet, being that
he has a particularily good view of it at this time of night.

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:17:12 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Anonymous Proposals

It seemed there was alot of support for the anonymous proposal idea.
My idea was not to have it as an option (ie, the cowardice idea), or
a game for scoring purposes, but to simply remove the author's name
from all proposal distributions.

The idea was to promote harf in both the speculation of who wrote a
particular proposal, and to, as was pointed out, possibly encourage
wagering on the issue.  Some of the harf could be in attempting to write
in someone else's style, and winning a prize if a majority votes that
player X, X not being the author, wrote it.

Its interesting to note that I do not think the rules require the 
promoter to put the author on the proposal, except as game custom.  I
wonder where it comes from, perhaps the old promoter rule, or just
global PBEM nomic culture.

ThinMan seemed to object strongly to the idea, so I will not propose it.
I do not believe ideas, even though they may have the support to pass, 
should be proposed over a strong objection, if it is core to the game
and appears it would make the game less fun for a particular player.
I guess its a judgement issue; its sort of like when I objected to that
proposal docket thing a while back.  There are counterexamples, but this
does not feel like one of them.

Malenkai

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 21:43:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Miller <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Evil Twins

On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Thierry Joffrain wrote:

> IB, would you be my evil twin?
> 
> And if no one is keeping a list of who is who's evil twin, I can do that on
> my web pages.
> 
> Calvin N Hobbes
> 

I'm not sure how official this is, but my acknolwedgment of this is on the
main list now anyway!

I loves being an Evil Twin!
IB

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 18:57:11 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Goodbye

Being that I am no longer devoting any time to Ackanomic, I am
reluctantly quitting.  I apologize for any problems this may cause for
anyone else.  

Sorry, folks.

Strider
Jason McCulley

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:13:18 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: President

If you would like to volunteer for the office of President,
e-mail me.  The nomination lasts for 3 days.

Malenkai

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:22:57 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Financier

In accordance with R 101, I am recruiting someone to unofficially
volunteer to simulate the duties of Financier over the next 6 days.

If no one volunteers, I will do it, but if you *wanted* to do it,
it makes sense to do it now, if you don't mind.  Thanks.

Malenkai
Speaker
not acting President

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:01:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Evil Twins 

>> IB, would you be my evil twin?
>> 
>> And if no one is keeping a list of who is who's evil twin, I can do that on
>> my web pages.
>> 
>> Calvin N Hobbes
>
>I'm not sure how official this is, but my acknolwedgment of this is on the
>main list now anyway!
>
>I loves being an Evil Twin!
>IB

Woo-hoo!

Could all twins drop me a message (this is acka-priv, just hit reply) and
tell me who all their twins are?

Calvin N Hobbes

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:01:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Thierry Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Evil Twins 

>> IB, would you be my evil twin?
>> 
>> And if no one is keeping a list of who is who's evil twin, I can do that on
>> my web pages.
>> 
>> Calvin N Hobbes
>
>I'm not sure how official this is, but my acknolwedgment of this is on the
>main list now anyway!
>
>I loves being an Evil Twin!
>IB

Woo-hoo!

Could all twins drop me a message (this is acka-priv, just hit reply) and
tell me who all their twins are?

Calvin N Hobbes

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:13:24 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Financier

> In accordance with R 101, I am recruiting someone to unofficially
> volunteer to simulate the duties of Financier over the next 6 days.
> 
> If no one volunteers, I will do it, but if you *wanted* to do it,
> it makes sense to do it now, if you don't mind.  Thanks.

I'm unofficially doing the financier work.

/dev/joe

Here's my log of all the activity since Malenkai quit as financier.
If anything is missing that happened before the Malenkai bonus vote trade
at the end, please let me know.

(the full log is available at
   http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~devjoe/acka/entitylog
the descriptions for the coded names (like theiwoagrm) are in
   http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~devjoe/acka/entitynames
the current entity holdings are at
   http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~devjoe/acka/pe.html
a full list of the little pictures on the page is at
   http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~devjoe/acka/ep.html
the format for the entitylog is
Dec 31 23:59 EST: +1 entityname Player Name: description
except for prosthetic foreheads it looks like
Dec 31 23:59 EST: +1 entityname Player Name:099: description
where 099 is the number of the forehead on my foreheads page.)

Mar 23 15:53 EST: -10 A$ Calvin N Hobbes: trinket
Mar 23 15:53 EST: -10 A$ Calvin N Hobbes: trinket
Mar 23 15:53 EST: +1 theiwoagrm Calvin N Hobbes: trinket
Mar 23 15:53 EST: +1 thewecomeinpeace Calvin N Hobbes: trinket
Mar 23 15:53 EST: -100 A$ Calvin N Hobbes: new house
Mar 23 18:56 EST: -1 theiwoagrm Calvin N Hobbes: 
Mar 23 18:56 EST: +1 theiwoagrm snowgod: 
Mar 24 07:42 EST: +1 thempotato Mohammed:
Mar 24 07:42 EST: -1 thempotato fnord:
Mar 24 07:42 EST: +1 thegtuba fnord:
Mar 24 07:42 EST: -1 thegtuba Malenkai:
Mar 24 07:42 EST: +1 thephoebe ThinMan:
Mar 24 07:42 EST: -1 thephoebe mr cwm:
Mar 24 10:02 EST: -15 A$ Vynd: magic letter
Mar 24 10:11 EST: -1 thephoebe ThinMan:
Mar 24 15:12 EST: -1 thelboc-g snowgod: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: -1 thethring snowgod: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: -1 thefibber snowgod: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: -1 theppatch snowgod: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: -1 thebouestiox snowgod: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: +1 thelboc-g /dev/joe: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: +1 thethring /dev/joe: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: +1 thefibber /dev/joe: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: +1 theppatch /dev/joe: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: +1 thebouestiox /dev/joe: treasure
Mar 24 15:12 EST: -50 A$ snowgod: trinket
Mar 24 15:12 EST: +1 theconsprize breadbox: trinket
Mar 24 15:49 EST: -31 A$ mr cwm: tammany P1800
Mar 24 15:49 EST: +31 A$ Narfalone Family: tammany P1800
Mar 24 15:49 EST: +2 A$ Niccolo Flychuck: epotato P1803
Mar 24 15:49 EST: +4 pc Niccolo Flychuck: P1803
Mar 24 16:46 EST: +1 silverstripe Mohammed:
Mar 24 19:56 EST: +1 thephoebe IdiotBoy:
Mar 24 21:12 EST: -1 thephoebe IdiotBoy:
Mar 24 22:01 EST: -7 A$ Robert Sevin: gold key
Mar 24 22:01 EST: -1 pc ThinMan: bronze key
Mar 24 22:29 EST: +2 A$ Malenkai: epotato P1841
Mar 24 23:11 EST: +1 pc Calvin N Hobbes: P1801
Mar 24 23:24 EST: -30 A$ Mohammed: fixing the OMCL with the PMW
Mar 25 17:03 EST: +3 pc Robert Sevin: P1843
Mar 25 20:32 EST: +1 napswinger Red Barn:
Mar 25 23:05 EST: +1 thephoebe Malenkai:
Mar 26 02:44 EST: -160 A$ Narf: auction
Mar 26 02:44 EST: +1 epotato Narf: auction
Mar 26 20:33 EST: -50 A$ /dev/joe: Gaoler bribe
Mar 26 20:33 EST: +50 A$ snowgod: Gaoler bribe
Mar 27 08:15 EST: -50 A$ ThinMan: Gaoler bribe
Mar 27 08:15 EST: +50 A$ snowgod: Gaoler bribe
Mar 27 13:31 EST: -20 A$ Mohammed: trinkets
Mar 27 13:31 EST: +1 thecrashhelmet Malenkai:
Mar 27 13:31 EST: +1 thecrashproofvest Red Barn:
Mar 27 17:41 EST: +1 bv Niccolo Flychuck:
Mar 27 18:39 EST: +15 A$ Niccolo Flychuck:
Mar 27 18:39 EST: -1 bv Niccolo Flychuck:
Mar 27 18:39 EST: -15 A$ Malenkai:
Mar 27 18:39 EST: +1 bv Malenkai:

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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 00:04:11 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Silver Moon

The Silver Moon voting is over.  breadox win proposal wins.  He must
make the speech not to exceed 10000 words.

Mar 28 00:04 EST: +75 A$ breadbox:
Mar 28 00:04 EST: +1 silvermoon breadbox:

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1. fnord's poem to honor Elder Wayne

2. Scholar /dev/joe's ridiculing of Red Barn's guess at the Truth of the
   Machine That Goes *ping* (at Fri, Jan 17 1997).

/dev/joe
Red Barn

3. breadbox's "Win" Proposal 1727.

IdiotBoy
Malenkai
Mohammed
Bascule

URL: <http://wilma.che.utexas.edu/~devjoe/acka/prop1750.html#P1727>

4. Vynd's achievement of the title of Crazy French-Scotsman.

Vynd
fnord

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 23:20:46 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Awards

Calvin N Hobbes and ThinMan both had their 30th accepted proposals recently
(though Calvin had a lot more rejected ones along the way).

I hereby award one silver stripe each to Calvin N Hobbes and ThinMan.

/dev/joe
Senator
No longer in Contempt

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