Subject: Ackanomic Digest V1 #530
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Ackanomic Digest      Thursday, February 20 1997      Volume 01 : Number 530

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:28 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1720 accepted (*pinging* the Machine (resubmit))

Proposal 1720
*pinging* the Machine (resubmit)
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  11 / 16 = 68.750000%
Yes:  13    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal accepted.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1720

YES votes:
	mr cwm
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Narf
	Strider
	fnord
	breadbox
	ThinMan
	snowgod
	Lestrade
	Mohammed
	Malenkai
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Robert Sevin
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1720
*pinging* the Machine (resubmit)
Malenkai

This is a Modest proposal.

- ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Amend Rule 1209, "The Machine That Goes *ping*", to replace:

"
      VIII. If the Machine has gone *ping* thirty times during the
current Scholar's term, the Scholar must, within three days of the
30th *ping*, publically post the Machine's truth in its undisguised
form.

      When the Scholar posts the undisguised truth, any active player
may, within the next three days, submit a CFCJ that the Scholar violated
the rules of his duties during the current Scholar's term. If no player
does so in that time, or if the returned verdict is FALSE, the Scholar
receives 50 A$ for his services, and the Machine randomly teleports
itself to another active player's Home.
"

with:

"
      VIII. If the Machine has gone *ping* thirty times during the
current Scholar's term, the Scholar must, within three days of the
30th *ping*, publically post the Machine's truth in its undisguised
form.

      When the Scholar posts the undisguised truth as directed by this
section, the Machine randomly teleports itself to another active
player's Home.
"

{{[the CFCJ business is extraneous; the clause about the money appears
to scope beyond section VIII, which was not intended, I would guess.
Also, the scholar has most likely already received a boon, making this
subgame payoff structure well out of line with other subgames to
start with.  That's ok, but there is no reason to throw twice what
the web-harfer makes in a month on top of that :)]}}

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:23 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1718 accepted (Inflation)

Proposal 1718
Inflation
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  11 / 15 = 73.333333%
Yes:  8    No:  3     Present:  1   ...Proposal accepted.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1718

YES votes:
	mr cwm
	Strider
	fnord
	breadbox
	ThinMan
	snowgod
	Mohammed
	Malenkai

NO votes:
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Lestrade

PRESENT votes:
	Robert Sevin

Active players who did not vote:
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1718
Inflation
Malenkai

This is a Modest proposal.

Amend Rule 415, "Presidential Decisions", to replace

"A$500 in construction costs" with "A$850 in construction costs".

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:31 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1721 accepted (Proposal 1704 resubmit)

Proposal 1721
Proposal 1704 resubmit
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  11 / 16 = 68.750000%
Yes:  13    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal accepted.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1721

YES votes:
	mr cwm
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Narf
	Strider
	fnord
	breadbox
	ThinMan
	snowgod
	Lestrade
	Mohammed
	Malenkai
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Robert Sevin
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1721
Proposal 1704 resubmit
Malenkai

This is a Modest proposal.

- -------------------------------------------------------------------

Amend R 254, "Player States", to replace:

"
A Pending player becomes Active when it becomes publically knowable
that he has voted or made a proposal.
"

with:

"
A Pending player becomes Active when it becomes publically knowable
that he has voted on a proposal.
"

{{[first of all, this was snuck (?) into the player reorg despite acka's
opposition to the idea (qv P 1549), but the players reorg was worth it.
Remember, active player was defined the way it was because of the Quorum
Crisis, therefore voting is the appropriate criteria.  Also, voting
seems more of an indication that your feet are on the ground than
submitting a proposal.  This also fixes the case where votes on other
things such as elections and subgames do not count.]}}

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:21 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1717 accepted (Shubik Auctions)

Proposal 1717
Shubik Auctions
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  11 / 15 = 73.333333%
Yes:  10    No:  1     Present:  2   ...Proposal accepted.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1717

YES votes:
	mr cwm
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Narf
	Strider
	fnord
	ThinMan
	snowgod
	Lestrade
	Mohammed
	Malenkai

NO votes:
	/dev/joe

PRESENT votes:
	Robert Sevin
	breadbox

Active players who did not vote:
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1717
Shubik Auctions
Malenkai

This is a Modest proposal.

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------

Amend R 516, "Auction", to append the following text at the end of the
rule:

"
7) When a player acting on their own calls a public auction in which
exactly one item is being auctioned, that player may declare that
auction to be a "Shubik Auction" when it is initiated.  An auction 
may not be so declared under any other circumstances.  At the
conclusion of a Shubik Auction, the player who made the second highest
bid, if such a player exists, forfeits his bid to the treasury as well,
and receives no compensation.

{{All Shubik Auctions hereby lose their Shubik status.

[Shubik auctions are sometimes called "Dollar Bill Auctions".  An
excellent writeup of these sorts of auctions can be found at

http://www.ios.com/~leonf/sd/bargame9.html

]}}
"

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:33 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1722 accepted (Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137)

Proposal 1722
Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  11 / 16 = 68.750000%
Yes:  12    No:  1     Present:  0   ...Proposal accepted.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1722

YES votes:
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Narf
	Strider
	fnord
	breadbox
	ThinMan
	snowgod
	Lestrade
	Mohammed
	Malenkai
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:
	mr cwm

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Robert Sevin
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1722
Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137
Malenkai

(resubmit)

This is a Modest proposal.

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Amend Rule 412, "Financier and Free Market", to replace the following text:

"
      The Privileges of the Financier are:

      a) To appoint up to 2 assistants, to help in gathering,
maintaining, and publishing information pertaining to the above. These
assistants may resign. These assistants are not Officers.

      b) To receive the usual salary for a Functional Officer.
"

with:

"
{{the title of assistant to the financier is removed from anyone who
has it.  [deleting the clauses above does not change the way the
game is played in any way.]}}
"

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:35 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1724 rejected (Table of Contents)

Proposal 1724
Table of Contents
Jammer

Votes cast by active players:  11 / 16 = 68.750000%
Yes:  3    No:  9     Present:  0   ...Proposal rejected.

YES votes:
	mr cwm
	Narf
	snowgod

NO votes:
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Strider
	fnord
	breadbox
	ThinMan
	Lestrade
	Mohammed
	Malenkai

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Robert Sevin
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:35 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1723 accepted (If We're Going to Do This to Ourselves, We Should Do It Right)

Proposal 1723
If We're Going to Do This to Ourselves, We Should Do It Right
breadbox

Votes cast by active players:  11 / 16 = 68.750000%
Yes:  9    No:  2     Present:  1   ...Proposal accepted.

YES votes:
	mr cwm
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Strider
	fnord
	breadbox
	Lestrade
	Mohammed
	Malenkai

NO votes:
	Narf
	ThinMan

PRESENT votes:
	snowgod

Active players who did not vote:
	Robert Sevin
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1723
If We're Going to Do This to Ourselves, We Should Do It Right
breadbox

This is a Modest Proposal.
________

I. Add the following paragraph to Rule 1309 "We don't need Gravity":

If a building is dangling by its emergency tether, players may still
enter and leave the building, by climbing up and down the tether. If a
building has its emergency tether break and floats free, no one may
enter or leave that building unless they have wings, or are given a
ride by a winged player. Objects that reside in a floating building
cannot be accessed or used by anyone who is not also inside that
building.
________

II. Replace the second to last paragraph ["Wings"] in Rule 854
"Ackanomic Institute of Genetic Replication" with the following:

Wings: Cost -- 100 A$. Winged players need not worry about dangling
from the earth, as they can reattach the suction cups for any player
that might lose them. Because of the size of buildings, it requires
three winged players to reattach a dangling building's suction cups,
and after doing so, they must rest for three days before reattaching
anything else. Buildings that have also lost their emergency tether
can still be reattached by three winged players, but the strenuous
effort will cause the players to lose their wings as well. Since extra
heads ruin a player's aerodynamics, a player may not have both wings
and an extra head.

{{[This change simply adds information that is currently only
specified in the Blueprint for the Gravitation Monopole. That is,
it doesn't change anything; it simply puts the information in
with the rest of the rules.]}}
________

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:41 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1725 accepted (Potato Adjustment)

Proposal 1725
Potato Adjustment
mr cwm

Votes cast by active players:  10 / 16 = 62.500000%
Yes:  9    No:  2     Present:  0   ...Proposal accepted.

YES votes:
	mr cwm
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Narf
	Strider
	fnord
	breadbox
	ThinMan
	Lestrade
	Malenkai

NO votes:
	/dev/joe
	snowgod

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Mohammed
	Robert Sevin
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1725
Potato Adjustment
mr cwm

This is modest proposal.

In R901/9, "The Magic Potato" change the "two" to "three" in the last line
of the first paragraph, and change the "two" to "one" in the last line of
the last paragraph.

{{[The point equality of the Magic Potato and the Greater Tuba has always
bugged me.  It seemed to me that the goal of the Magic Potato was to
encourage players always to have some proposals in the queue.  The Greater
Tuba, on the other hand, is much easier to take advantage of, since
possesion of it is predictable.]}}

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:34:17 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1715 accepted (Prayer Fix)

Proposal 1715
Prayer Fix
Guy Fawkes

Votes cast by active players:  11 / 15 = 73.333333%
Yes:  10    No:  1     Present:  2   ...Proposal accepted.

YES votes:
	mr cwm
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Strider
	fnord
	ThinMan
	Lestrade
	Mohammed
	Malenkai
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:
	snowgod

PRESENT votes:
	Robert Sevin
	breadbox

Active players who did not vote:
	Jammer
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Ludwig
	Techno

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1715
Prayer Fix
Guy Fawkes

This is a Modest proposal.
Add the following sentence to the end of the first paragraph of R1321.

For the purposes of this rule, a non-vacationing priest is any priest who 
was not on Vacation at the end of the prayer period.

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:32:09 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1712 rejected (Creation of a PartyChessPiece Transmogrifier)

Proposal 1712

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:42:29 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1712 rejected (Creation of a PartyChessPiece Transmogrifier)

On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Jason Orendorff wrote:

> Proposal 1712
	Hmm.  Apparently the bot didn't like the fact that the recently 
deceased Guy Fawkes wrote this one.  I'll go re-harf it right now.  =)
	The bot gave yet another wrong answer on P1711, so that may need 
further review...  :oP

- --Mohammed
tired

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:49:05 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1712 rejected (Creation of a PartyChessPiece Transmogrifier)

Proposal 1712
Creation of a PartyChessPiece Transmogrifier
Guy Fawkes

Votes cast by active players:  10 / 16 = 62.500000%
Yes:  5    No:  3     Present:  3   ...Proposal rejected.

YES votes:
	/dev/joe
	Ludwig
	snowgod
	Guy Fawkes
	Malenkai

NO votes:
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Strider
	Mohammed

PRESENT votes:
	Robert Sevin
	breadbox
	Lestrade

Active players who did not vote:
	Jammer
	fnord
	Calvin N Hobbes
	ThinMan
	Techno
	mr cwm

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:53:08 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal Results

1) Both Narf and snowgod voted on at least one proposal, and indicated
they wanted a Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment.  I give
snowgod fragment 5 and Narf fragment 1.  Both Randomly chosen.

2) My records indicate that it would not have been legal for snowgod
to vote on p1712 thru 1719 due to his vacation.  It does not
apppear to affect the results, but may affect score.

[snowgod went on vacation 02/01, 06:04, and returned 02/13, 05:35]

3) Also, P 1714 was unanimous and non-modest.  Niccolo Flychuck is the
acting president.

4) P 1721 and 1723, both accepted, appear to be twin primes.

Malenkai

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:10:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  job

Now that it's up-to-date, I guess I can apologize for allowing the game 
state to go un-updated for so long.  Please accept my apologies yet 
again, and try to believe that in the future, proposal results will be 
released on time and will be at least roughly accurate.  :o)

- --Mohammed
late

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:08:43 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Processing Chips

Processing Chips:

p1714 +3 ThinMan
p1719 +3 Malenkai

I guess now that we have vault divination, we can actually use these
things.  They also may be useful in one of my other treasures ;)

Malenkai
Financier
one more thing to track

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:22:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: P1727 (*Read This Now!*)

If Proposal 1727 is accepted, breadbox will win the cycle!

> Proposal 1727
> Newspapers Must be Public to be Newspapers
> breadbox
	[snip]
> {{[ With one exception, this doesn't really change the rule. For the
> most part it organizes the language, replaces a few occurences of
	[snip]
> the Scorekeeper that happend to contain the words "[admittedly this is
> a stupid example] set breadbox's score to the Magic Number. " ]}}
                  ^
	Notes do not nest.  This close bracket will end the note started at 
the {{[, and the remainder, "set breadbox's score to the Magic Number", 
will be applied once.
	Fiendishly clever.  As of right now there's less than 24 hours to 
change your vote on P1727 to NO (and I do intend to release it on time):  
if you want to foil breadbox's win attempt, vote *now*!

#vote p1727 NO

- --Mohammed

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:28:58 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1727 (*Read This Now!*)

Jason Orendorff wrote:

>         Notes do not nest.  This close bracket will end the note started at
> the {{[, and the remainder, "set breadbox's score to the Magic Number",
> will be applied once.
>         Fiendishly clever.  As of right now there's less than 24 hours to
> change your vote on P1727 to NO (and I do intend to release it on time):
> if you want to foil breadbox's win attempt, vote *now*!

ROTFL!  Who said points were no fun?

Malenkai

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:35:06 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Proposal 1739

> Proposal 1739
> Organized Crime

I am declaring this proposal Harfy.

Malenkai
Harfmeister

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:42:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Pre-RFC org reorg

On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Jason Orendorff wrote:
> > > [4.  Organization Similarity]
> > I don't think this section is an improvement on the existing language. I
> > had to read it twice just to figure it out. 
> 	Okay, I'll change it back.  Or at least change it.  I still think 
> the current mathematical language is a little esoteric.
	How's this:

=====
For any two Organizations X and Y, orgsim(X, Y) is defined as the
percentage of members of X who are also members of Y.

The H Similarity between two Organizations, A and B, is the greater of
orgsim(A, B) and orgsim(B, A).

The L Similarity between two Organizations, A and B, is the lesser of
orgsim(A, B) and orgsim(B, A).

The M Similarity between two Organizations, A and B, is the average of
orgsim(A, B) and orgsim(B, A).
=====

- --Mohammed
striving to please everyone :o)
having fun again  :o)

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:49:54 -0600
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Diplomacy and copyrights 

>>If some people are interested in learning the game, or just getting a
>>refresher course, I'm sure that could be arranged. The only restriction is
>>that the rules are copyrighted and cannot be put online. This is especially
>>important for putting them up as a game in Acka, since we could be liable.
>I have never played Diplomacy, but I am interested in learning.  If
>we get something going around here then count me in.
>
>ThinMan

I would certainly be interested... A former player (who went by the Acka
name of Perfect Tommy) would also like to play.

Robert Sevin

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Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 00:00:22 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal Results

Malenkai wrote:
> 
> 1) Both Narf and snowgod voted on at least one proposal, and indicated
> they wanted a Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment.  I give
> snowgod fragment 5 and Narf fragment 1.  Both Randomly chosen.

There are 6 fragments left to be distributed, as specified previously.

Malenkai

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 20:56:28 -0800
From: [email-masked] (John Martin Lotz)
Subject: Acka:  Address needed

I lost Acrobot's Email address, could someone 
send it to me.

Jammer
Acka
John-Martin Lotz
[email-masked]

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:08:00 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal Results

> 2) My records indicate that it would not have been legal for snowgod
> to vote on p1712 thru 1719 due to his vacation.  It does not
> apppear to affect the results, but may affect score.
> 
> [snowgod went on vacation 02/01, 06:04, and returned 02/13, 05:35]

Noted.

> 3) Also, P 1714 was unanimous and non-modest.  Niccolo Flychuck is the
> acting president.

No, there were present votes on 1714.  Unanimity is hard.

/dev/joe

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