Subject: Ackanomic Digest V1 #511
From: [email-masked] (Ackanomic Digest)
To: ackanomic-digest

Ackanomic Digest      Saturday, February 8 1997      Volume 01 : Number 511

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 01:31:25 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: R 843

In accordance with R 843, I am providing the following
biography for Elder Wayne.  This is the poem I had commissioned
when Wayne left the game.  If I have the time and energy, I
will try to provide something for the other Elders as well.

Malenkai
Acting Historian
- --------------------------------------------------------------
Although his visage will be seen no longer,
We strive to always think of Elder Wayne.
His hard work helped to make our nomic stronger,
To multiply our fun, and not for his own gain.

As Tabulator and Promoter did he work,
To keep our Ackanomic flowing smooth.
His privileges and duties he would not shirk,
His desire was to see our nomic improve.

The Party of the Underworld he led,
To try to bring variety to our game.
Now he has gone, and left us his Undead,
And Ackanomic shall not ever be the same.

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 22:58:34 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Machine (Strider)

Malenkai wrote:
> 
> The Machine that goes *ping* has wound up in Strider's house.  I
> still have to report the boon ThinMan received at the time of the
> thread split.
> 
> Malenkai
What? Where? Who? How? 

Last I heard, Thinman and somebody else had Schroedinger's machine.
How the smeg did I get it?

- --Strider

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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 23:00:35 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Machine (Strider)

Malenkai wrote:
> 
> The Machine that goes *ping* has wound up in Strider's house.  I
> still have to report the boon ThinMan received at the time of the
> thread split.
> 
> Malenkai
Never mind.<g>  The former possessors of the Machine are now on
vacation, yes?

Strider

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:52:29 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: PHP

With everything that's going on now, I clean forgot about it too.

Oh, well.

Niccolo Flychuck

On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Malenkai wrote:

> I did not receive or send a party hall party message.
> It looks like we get snowgod's poetry when he comes back, unless I
> feel inspired, which is unlikely.
> 
> Malenkai
> acting harf swinger
> acting gaoler
> 

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:57:56 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Boon determination - Otzma

On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Malenkai wrote:

> Dice server wrote:
> 
> 54
> 
> > # 46-70: ancient scroll (random otzma card)
> 
> ThinMan received a Otzma Card of type TruthSeeker way back when.
> 
> Malenkai
>
The OCID for this Card is 114

Niccolo Flychuck
RuneMaker

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:59:32 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : Otzma

I am anouncing that in three days another Otzma Day will start.

I believe the LSAP is quite high and should allow me to enrich the Otzma
economy.

Niccolo Flychuck
RuneMaker

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:36:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Assorted Important Stuff

> Perhaps the real solution is to propose your non-voting status, and 
> automatically force players who do not vote on a quorum failure into
> that status for a week, or something.  This is preferrable, IMHO, to
> weakening the quorum protection.
	This would have the advantage of allowing us to eliminate stuff like
"voluntarily initiated vacation".  All vacations would be voluntarily 
initiated....

- --Mohammed
wstg bdwh

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:40:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Holiday? - no.

> anounced a two day moratorium, which should be more than enough time for
> Mohammed to get back into things
	I hereby return from vacation.
	This shows a flaw in the bot system; if I don't check my mail for 
a day there's a chance the President has called a Moratorium.  Since the 
bot runs as part of my login script, it would distribute proposals 
anyway... not valid ones, but I would be committing a crime.
	Thanks for not submitting proposals, everyone.  :o)  I'll 
disconnect the bot asap.

- --Mohammed

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:07:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  Sunday brunch

I am going to snowgod's house again.  I am stomping around on his floor.  
If no treasure turns up, I am pulling up his floorboards and digging a 
very deep hole.

After a few hours of that I fill up the hole and replace the floorboards 
exactly as before, hoping snowgod won't notice anything when he returns.  
And I return to my home.  Ah, yes.  I haven't had a chance to show off my 
home yet-- or my phenomenal cooking skills (Mohammed's, not Jason 
Orendorff's).

The following players are cordially invited to a casual Sunday brunch at
my home tomorrow:  my esteemed fellow Scientist Malenkai, fnord, Guy
Fawkes, Jammer, Swann, and the player whose email address begins with
culley (sorry S., i've a bad memory and no time to check the web page.)

If you don't like omelettes, or are lactose intolerant, or are 
cholestrolophobic, or are a vegetarian, please let me know in advance and 
I'll be happy to prepare something special for you.

Everyone is welcome to my home any time I'm there.

- --Mohammed

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:24:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Trade Offer

On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Malenkai wrote:
> I offer the following trade to Mohammed:
> 
> the Little Bag O' Chips F in my possession,
> 
> for the following entities in Mohammed's possession:
	[clip]
	No thanks.  I'm trying to cut back on my sodium intake.

- --Mohammed

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 14:25:40 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka:  Sunday brunch

Jason Orendorff wrote:

> The following players are cordially invited to a casual Sunday brunch at
> my home tomorrow:  my esteemed fellow Scientist Malenkai, fnord, Guy
> Fawkes, Jammer, Swann, and the player whose email address begins with
> culley (sorry S., i've a bad memory and no time to check the web page.)

I am going to Mohammed's house.

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 14:32:20 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFCJ retraction

Feb 08 14:33 EST: -1 Malenkai: I retract CFCJ 129

Malenkai
looking for a peaceful settlement

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:17:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Guy Fawkes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: my regrets

I am sorry to report that I am leaving Ackanomic.  This is not the result 
of any present game situation, and I have no hard feelings, but quite 
frankly, I like this game too much for my own good.  At the present, I 
feel obliged to resign in order to focus on pressing real life concerns 
(religion, school, taxes, etc.)

I'm sorry to leave you guys; the months that I have played here have been 
great, and I really can call some of you friends.  (Heck, I'm crying as a 
type this.)  Still, it's best for me right now if I resign.  I hope you 
can appreciate that.  If I ever feel I have the ability to seriously 
devote myself to this game and still have the energy left to properly 
attend to my real life, I will.  But until then, I am resigned, 
effectively immediately after the trade offers made below are accepted or 
expire.  Until my resignation is finalized, I am going on Vacation.

Sorry for the suddenness of this, but real life changes even more quickly 
than our rules.  I hope the (None Yet)ters can find a third member before 
going defunct; I'd hate to be the downfall of that party.

The will of Guy (the non-Trinkets will need to be acked):

I am giving the Orbital Mind Control Laser to Mohammed.  Have fun!  
I am giving my formal Prosthetic Forehead and the Prosthetic Forehead 
  presented to me by snowgod during his second presidential campaign to 
  Narf and Lestrade, respectively, as tokens from their former mentor.
I am giving Runestone of Jukkasjarvi Fragment 8 to fnord.
I am giving /dev/joe an A for effort, for the best Web-harfer in any nomic.
I am giving Guy Fawkes' Soap Box to Malenkai, its most persistent user.
I am creating a trinket worth A$75, the PrtyChssPc Rk, which resembles a 
  PartyChessPiece Rook to whatever extent such resemblance is legal, and 
  I am giving it to Niccolo Flychuck in case he wants to pull a fast one on 
  the Party Board when no one is looking.  If you ever want my thoughts 
  on a PartyChess modification, you know my address.
I am giving the Chalice from the Palace to mr cwm.  Use it to bribe 
  someone to join (None Yet) in my stead, if you have to.
I am giving my entire collection of Processing Chips to snowgod, along 
  with the Little Bag O' Chips G to hold them in.  I guess that makes you 
  worth all that and a bag of chips.
I am creating a Trinket worth A$25, called Robert Sevin's Moderately 
  Amusing Vacation Hat.  It is really only half of a hat, and appears as 
  if someone had taken a very large neon green plastic fez, topped with a 
  zebraic tail and a model of the Chartreuese Goose, and chopped it 
  half.  Robert Sevin may or may not wear it.
I am giving my entire collection of PFBonds and Bond Promissories, except 
  for the PFGuy, to Techno.  He needs some.
And finally, I am giving my Rock to Wind a String Around to Calvin N Hobbes
  Everybody wants a rock to wind a piece of string around.

Fare thee well,
Robert Shimmin (aka Guy Fawkes)
Acka's only two-headed Undead

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:53:57 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: my regrets

We shall all regret it, and hope to see  you rejoin Ackanomic in some
future time, or perhaps pay us a visit, or drop us an e-line.

I thank you for the trinkets, and for all the Party Chess commentary.

I would also like to use this opportunity to nominate Guy Fawkes for the
Hall of Elders.

Niccolo Flychuck

(oh, yes, and once has finished figuring out what's left of Guy Fawes'
belongings, would you please forward me the list, so I can place it in the
new archives of the Undead)

On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Guy Fawkes wrote:

> 
> I am sorry to report that I am leaving Ackanomic.  This is not the result 
> of any present game situation, and I have no hard feelings, but quite 
> frankly, I like this game too much for my own good.  At the present, I 
> feel obliged to resign in order to focus on pressing real life concerns 
> (religion, school, taxes, etc.)

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:55:50 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: Undead-Harfer nomination

I hereby anounce the begining of the nomination period for the position
of Undead Harfer.

Volunteers, you may reply to this  message. Include the words Undead
Harfer in the subject line.

Niccolo Flychuck
President

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 17:53:53 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: my regrets

Uri Bruck wrote:

> I would also like to use this opportunity to nominate Guy Fawkes for the
> Hall of Elders.

As much as I'd like to support this, he is still in the game.  Of 
course, to the extent that we are going to ignore that detail, I
support it :)

> (oh, yes, and once has finished figuring out what's left of Guy Fawes'
> belongings, would you please forward me the list, so I can place it in the
> new archives of the Undead)

I will track that.  BTW, you should start a nomination for Undead-Harfer.

Malenkai

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:08:18 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: my regrets

On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Malenkai wrote:

> Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> > I would also like to use this opportunity to nominate Guy Fawkes for the
> > Hall of Elders.
> 
> As much as I'd like to support this, he is still in the game.  Of 
> course, to the extent that we are going to ignore that detail, I
> support it :)

Then we'll just have to nominate him again later.
> 
> > (oh, yes, and once has finished figuring out what's left of Guy Fawes'
> > belongings, would you please forward me the list, so I can place it in the
> > new archives of the Undead)
> 
> I will track that.  BTW, you should start a nomination for Undead-Harfer.
Done.
Niccolo Flychuck

> 
> Malenkai
> 

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:28:03 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : proposals 1701-1705

As far as I can determine Mohammed has not yet legally returned from
Vacation, which means I still have to distribute these results.

Well, below are the results for proposals 1701-1705
The fact that many players have gone on vacation following the failure of
P1700 has no effect on the results of the proposals. So I consider the
information posted by the Vacationing Tabulator  as correct information
conveyed to me in order that I should post it my capacity as acting
Tabulator.

Niccolo Flychuck
acting Tabulator and not happy about it

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka:  P1701 failed quorum (Creation of a PartyChessPiece Sniper)

Proposal 1701
Creation of a PartyChessPiece Sniper
Guy Fawkes

Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
Yes:  8    No:  0     Present:  2   ...Proposal failed quorum.

YES votes:
	Malenkai
	Guy Fawkes
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	ThinMan
	Swann
	Strider
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:
	Lestrade
	breadbox

Active players who did not vote:
	Mohammed
	fnord
	Robert Sevin
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Habeous Corpus

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka:  P1704 failed quorum (unSneeking the Active Player definition change)

Proposal 1704
unSneeking the Active Player definition change
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
Yes:  10    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1704

YES votes:
	Malenkai
	Guy Fawkes
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	ThinMan
	Lestrade
	breadbox
	Swann
	Strider
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Mohammed
	fnord
	Robert Sevin
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Habeous Corpus

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:19 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka:  P1706 failed quorum (Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137)

Proposal 1706
Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  8 / 19 = 42.105263%
Yes:  9    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1706

YES votes:
	ThinMan
	Guy Fawkes
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Malenkai
	Lestrade
	breadbox
	Strider
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Mohammed
	fnord
	Robert Sevin
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Swann
	Habeous Corpus

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka:  P1703 failed quorum (*pinging* the Machine)

Proposal 1703
*pinging* the Machine
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
Yes:  8    No:  0     Present:  1   ...Proposal failed quorum.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1703

YES votes:
	Malenkai
	Guy Fawkes
	/dev/joe
	ThinMan
	Lestrade
	breadbox
	Swann
	Strider

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:
	Niccolo Flychuck

Active players who did not vote:
	Mohammed
	fnord
	Robert Sevin
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Habeous Corpus

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:19 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Subject: Acka:  P1705 failed quorum (Keys and Mongeese)

Proposal 1705
Keys and Mongeese
/dev/joe

Votes cast by active players:  7 / 19 = 36.842105%
Yes:  2    No:  5     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.

/dev/joe +2 : EP P1705

YES votes:
	Guy Fawkes
	Strider

NO votes:
	ThinMan
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Malenkai
	Lestrade
	breadbox

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Mohammed
	fnord
	Robert Sevin
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	/dev/joe
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Swann
	Habeous Corpus

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:41:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Guy Fawkes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : proposals 1701-1705

On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Uri Bruck wrote:

> Well, below are the results for proposals 1701-1705
> The fact that many players have gone on vacation following the failure of
> P1700 has no effect on the results of the proposals. So I consider the
> information posted by the Vacationing Tabulator  as correct information
> conveyed to me in order that I should post it my capacity as acting
> Tabulator.

You might save yourself the hassle of these failing quorum; at the time 
of their relese, the number of active players has been significantly 
reduced by the forced vacationing.

Guy Fawkes
voice from beyond the grave

> 
> Niccolo Flychuck
> acting Tabulator and not happy about it
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
> From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Acka:  P1701 failed quorum (Creation of a PartyChessPiece Sniper)
> 
> Proposal 1701
> Creation of a PartyChessPiece Sniper
> Guy Fawkes
> 
> Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
> Yes:  8    No:  0     Present:  2   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> 
> 
> YES votes:
> 	Malenkai
> 	Guy Fawkes
> 	/dev/joe
> 	Niccolo Flychuck
> 	ThinMan
> 	Swann
> 	Strider
> 	Vulcan Unity vote
> 
> NO votes:
> 
> PRESENT votes:
> 	Lestrade
> 	breadbox
> 
> Active players who did not vote:
> 	Mohammed
> 	fnord
> 	Robert Sevin
> 	Ludwig
> 	Calvin N Hobbes
> 	snowgod
> 	Narf
> 	Techno
> 	mr cwm
> 	Habeous Corpus
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
> From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Acka:  P1704 failed quorum (unSneeking the Active Player definition change)
> 
> Proposal 1704
> unSneeking the Active Player definition change
> Malenkai
> 
> Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
> Yes:  10    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> 
> Malenkai +2 : EP P1704
> 
> YES votes:
> 	Malenkai
> 	Guy Fawkes
> 	/dev/joe
> 	Niccolo Flychuck
> 	ThinMan
> 	Lestrade
> 	breadbox
> 	Swann
> 	Strider
> 	Vulcan Unity vote
> 
> NO votes:
> 
> PRESENT votes:
> 
> Active players who did not vote:
> 	Mohammed
> 	fnord
> 	Robert Sevin
> 	Ludwig
> 	Calvin N Hobbes
> 	snowgod
> 	Narf
> 	Techno
> 	mr cwm
> 	Habeous Corpus
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:19 -0600
> From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Acka:  P1706 failed quorum (Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137)
> 
> Proposal 1706
> Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137
> Malenkai
> 
> Votes cast by active players:  8 / 19 = 42.105263%
> Yes:  9    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> 
> Malenkai +2 : EP P1706
> 
> YES votes:
> 	ThinMan
> 	Guy Fawkes
> 	/dev/joe
> 	Niccolo Flychuck
> 	Malenkai
> 	Lestrade
> 	breadbox
> 	Strider
> 	Vulcan Unity vote
> 
> NO votes:
> 
> PRESENT votes:
> 
> Active players who did not vote:
> 	Mohammed
> 	fnord
> 	Robert Sevin
> 	Ludwig
> 	Calvin N Hobbes
> 	snowgod
> 	Narf
> 	Techno
> 	mr cwm
> 	Swann
> 	Habeous Corpus
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
> From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Acka:  P1703 failed quorum (*pinging* the Machine)
> 
> Proposal 1703
> *pinging* the Machine
> Malenkai
> 
> Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
> Yes:  8    No:  0     Present:  1   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> 
> Malenkai +2 : EP P1703
> 
> YES votes:
> 	Malenkai
> 	Guy Fawkes
> 	/dev/joe
> 	ThinMan
> 	Lestrade
> 	breadbox
> 	Swann
> 	Strider
> 
> NO votes:
> 
> PRESENT votes:
> 	Niccolo Flychuck
> 
> Active players who did not vote:
> 	Mohammed
> 	fnord
> 	Robert Sevin
> 	Ludwig
> 	Calvin N Hobbes
> 	snowgod
> 	Narf
> 	Techno
> 	mr cwm
> 	Habeous Corpus
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:19 -0600
> From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> Reply-To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Acka:  P1705 failed quorum (Keys and Mongeese)
> 
> Proposal 1705
> Keys and Mongeese
> /dev/joe
> 
> Votes cast by active players:  7 / 19 = 36.842105%
> Yes:  2    No:  5     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> 
> /dev/joe +2 : EP P1705
> 
> YES votes:
> 	Guy Fawkes
> 	Strider
> 
> NO votes:
> 	ThinMan
> 	Niccolo Flychuck
> 	Malenkai
> 	Lestrade
> 	breadbox
> 
> PRESENT votes:
> 
> Active players who did not vote:
> 	Mohammed
> 	fnord
> 	Robert Sevin
> 	Ludwig
> 	Calvin N Hobbes
> 	snowgod
> 	/dev/joe
> 	Narf
> 	Techno
> 	mr cwm
> 	Swann
> 	Habeous Corpus
> 

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:53:59 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : proposals 1701-1705

On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Guy Fawkes wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> > Well, below are the results for proposals 1701-1705
> > The fact that many players have gone on vacation following the failure of
> > P1700 has no effect on the results of the proposals. So I consider the
> > information posted by the Vacationing Tabulator  as correct information
> > conveyed to me in order that I should post it my capacity as acting
> > Tabulator.
> 
> You might save yourself the hassle of these failing quorum; at the time 
> of their relese, the number of active players has been significantly 
> reduced by the forced vacationing.

As much as I would have liked to see some of those proposals pass, Quorum
is determined at the end of the Voting Period, and not when proposals are
distributed (R104)
The forced Vacation however, describe in R207, begins when the results are
distributed. Since the results for P1700 were distributed after the Voting
Period for 1701-1705 were over, the forced Vacation has no effect on the
results.

Niccolo Flychuck

 > 
> Guy Fawkes
> voice from beyond the grave
> 
> 
> > 
> > Niccolo Flychuck
> > acting Tabulator and not happy about it
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
> > From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> > Reply-To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: Acka:  P1701 failed quorum (Creation of a PartyChessPiece Sniper)
> > 
> > Proposal 1701
> > Creation of a PartyChessPieceSniper
> > Guy Fawkes
> > 
> > Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
> > Yes:  8    No:  0     Present:  2   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> > 
> > 
> > YES votes:
> > 	Malenkai
> > 	Guy Fawkes
> > 	/dev/joe
> > 	Niccolo Flychuck
> > 	ThinMan
> > 	Swann
> > 	Strider
> > 	Vulcan Unity vote
> > 
> > NO votes:
> > 
> > PRESENT votes:
> > 	Lestrade
> > 	breadbox
> > 
> > Active players who did not vote:
> > 	Mohammed
> > 	fnord
> > 	Robert Sevin
> > 	Ludwig
> > 	Calvin N Hobbes
> > 	snowgod
> > 	Narf
> > 	Techno
> > 	mr cwm
> > 	Habeous Corpus
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
> > From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> > Reply-To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: Acka:  P1704 failed quorum (unSneeking the Active Player definition change)
> > 
> > Proposal 1704
> > unSneeking the Active Player definition change
> > Malenkai
> > 
> > Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
> > Yes:  10    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> > 
> > Malenkai +2 : EP P1704
> > 
> > YES votes:
> > 	Malenkai
> > 	Guy Fawkes
> > 	/dev/joe
> > 	Niccolo Flychuck
> > 	ThinMan
> > 	Lestrade
> > 	breadbox
> > 	Swann
> > 	Strider
> > 	Vulcan Unity vote
> > 
> > NO votes:
> > 
> > PRESENT votes:
> > 
> > Active players who did not vote:
> > 	Mohammed
> > 	fnord
> > 	Robert Sevin
> > 	Ludwig
> > 	Calvin N Hobbes
> > 	snowgod
> > 	Narf
> > 	Techno
> > 	mr cwm
> > 	Habeous Corpus
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:19 -0600
> > From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> > Reply-To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: Acka:  P1706 failed quorum (Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137)
> > 
> > Proposal 1706
> > Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137
> > Malenkai
> > 
> > Votes cast by active players:  8 / 19 = 42.105263%
> > Yes:  9    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> > 
> > Malenkai +2 : EP P1706
> > 
> > YES votes:
> > 	ThinMan
> > 	Guy Fawkes
> > 	/dev/joe
> > 	Niccolo Flychuck
> > 	Malenkai
> > 	Lestrade
> > 	breadbox
> > 	Strider
> > 	Vulcan Unity vote
> > 
> > NO votes:
> > 
> > PRESENT votes:
> > 
> > Active players who did not vote:
> > 	Mohammed
> > 	fnord
> > 	Robert Sevin
> > 	Ludwig
> > 	Calvin N Hobbes
> > 	snowgod
> > 	Narf
> > 	Techno
> > 	mr cwm
> > 	Swann
> > 	Habeous Corpus
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
> > From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> > Reply-To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: Acka:  P1703 failed quorum (*pinging* the Machine)
> > 
> > Proposal 1703
> > *pinging* the Machine
> > Malenkai
> > 
> > Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
> > Yes:  8    No:  0     Present:  1   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> > 
> > Malenkai +2 : EP P1703
> > 
> > YES votes:
> > 	Malenkai
> > 	Guy Fawkes
> > 	/dev/joe
> > 	ThinMan
> > 	Lestrade
> > 	breadbox
> > 	Swann
> > 	Strider
> > 
> > NO votes:
> > 
> > PRESENT votes:
> > 	Niccolo Flychuck
> > 
> > Active players who did not vote:
> > 	Mohammed
> > 	fnord
> > 	Robert Sevin
> > 	Ludwig
> > 	Calvin N Hobbes
> > 	snowgod
> > 	Narf
> > 	Techno
> > 	mr cwm
> > 	Habeous Corpus
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:19 -0600
> > From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
> > Reply-To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: Acka:  P1705 failed quorum (Keys and Mongeese)
> > 
> > Proposal 1705
> > Keys and Mongeese
> > /dev/joe
> > 
> > Votes cast by active players:  7 / 19 = 36.842105%
> > Yes:  2    No:  5     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> > 
> > /dev/joe +2 : EP P1705
> > 
> > YES votes:
> > 	Guy Fawkes
> > 	Strider
> > 
> > NO votes:
> > 	ThinMan
> > 	Niccolo Flychuck
> > 	Malenkai
> > 	Lestrade
> > 	breadbox
> > 
> > PRESENT votes:
> > 
> > Active players who did not vote:
> > 	Mohammed
> > 	fnord
> > 	Robert Sevin
> > 	Ludwig
> > 	Calvin N Hobbes
> > 	snowgod
> > 	/dev/joe
> > 	Narf
> > 	Techno
> > 	mr cwm
> > 	Swann
> > 	Habeous Corpus
> > 
> 

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:34:33 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: acka : proposals 1701-170*6*

Niccolo Flychuck wrote:
> As much as I would have liked to see some of those proposals pass, Quorum
> is determined at the end of the Voting Period, and not when proposals are
> distributed (R104)
> The forced Vacation however, describe in R207, begins when the results are
> distributed. Since the results for P1700 were distributed after the Voting
> Period for 1701-1705 were over, the forced Vacation has no effect on the
> results.

Hmm.  If true, this is unfortunate.

P1701,1702,1703,1704 fail by quorum, with no scoring effect since by
the time the results were published, all active players who abstained
had already been put on vacation.

P1705 was retracted.

On P1706, Swann loses 5 points and is put on vacation, leaving us with
just 6 active players, one of whom has already announced that he is
leaving the game soon.  Not good.

> > > Proposal 1706
> > > Reducing the ruleset size by a factor of 0.0006137
> > > Malenkai
> > > 
> > > Votes cast by active players:  8 / 19 = 42.105263%
> > > Yes:  9    No:  0     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> > > 
> > > Active players who did not vote:
      [...]
> > > 	Swann

/dev/joe
Scorekeeper, and acting lots of stuff for a while.

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 20:44:38 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : proposals 1701-170*6*

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> On P1706, Swann loses 5 points and is put on vacation, leaving us with
> just 6 active players, one of whom has already announced that he is
> leaving the game soon.  Not good.

It is possible the game has crashed.  Appointing /dev/joe Preator may
have been illegal, as this would make him a justice as well,
which is prohibited as a senator.  We need 4 senators and 2 justices,
all of which must be different players.  Moreover, the speaker
may not be a senator.  Its possible the "acting" bit may save the day,
otherwise I will be forced to declare a crisis.

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 20:53:49 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka : proposals 1701-170*6*

Malenkai wrote:

> It is possible the game has crashed.  Appointing /dev/joe Preator may
> have been illegal, as this would make him a justice as well,
> which is prohibited as a senator.  We need 4 senators and 2 justices,
> all of which must be different players.  Moreover, the speaker
> may not be a senator.  Its possible the "acting" bit may save the day,
> otherwise I will be forced to declare a crisis.

Speaker cannot be a justice either.  Were down if we only have 6 
active players. :(

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:18:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: End of Vacation

According to my calculations, it has now been 48 hours since my
vacation started, so I am hereby taking myself off of vacation.

Well, it looks like we have a bit of a mess, but I don't think we're
actually crashed. If nothing else, the Speed rule should give the
Speaker three days of leeway in regards to appointing Officers and
Acting Officers. So as long as we have more than six active players by
tomorrow, it seems to me that we should be okay. Right? Or am I
missing something else?

In the meantime - I would like to suggest to Niccolo Flychuck and
fnord that we go after the Courthouse at the earliest opportunity.

breadbox
glad to be back

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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 22:28:02 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: End of Vacation

Brian Raiter wrote:

> Well, it looks like we have a bit of a mess, but I don't think we're
> actually crashed. If nothing else, the Speed rule should give the
> Speaker three days of leeway in regards to appointing Officers and
> Acting Officers. 

That is the way we've been doing it.  I think we are ok, mabye :)

Malenkai

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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:31:21 -0500 (EST)
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Vacationing Still

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The following words were reputed to have come from Snowgod

>I've only read bits and piueces of my mail (those with interesting titles)
>for the last five (?) days so I am not too sure what is going on.  Glad to
>have Narf in the game (is that a play on harf?).

Glad to be in the game... Now if I could just figure it all out.  Narf is not
a play on Harf, though I see where that could be misconstrued.  Rather, it is
a cheap Animaniacs reference (along with my house's new name)

Narf

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