Subject: Ackanomic Digest V1 #508
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Ackanomic Digest       Friday, February 7 1997       Volume 01 : Number 508

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:18 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1703 failed quorum (*pinging* the Machine)

Proposal 1703
*pinging* the Machine
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
Yes:  8    No:  0     Present:  1   ...Proposal failed quorum.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1703

YES votes:
	Malenkai
	Guy Fawkes
	/dev/joe
	ThinMan
	Lestrade
	breadbox
	Swann
	Strider

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:
	Niccolo Flychuck

Active players who did not vote:
	Mohammed
	fnord
	Robert Sevin
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Habeous Corpus

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:19 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1705 failed quorum (Keys and Mongeese)

Proposal 1705
Keys and Mongeese
/dev/joe

Votes cast by active players:  7 / 19 = 36.842105%
Yes:  2    No:  5     Present:  0   ...Proposal failed quorum.

/dev/joe +2 : EP P1705

YES votes:
	Guy Fawkes
	Strider

NO votes:
	ThinMan
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Malenkai
	Lestrade
	breadbox

PRESENT votes:

Active players who did not vote:
	Mohammed
	fnord
	Robert Sevin
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	/dev/joe
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Swann
	Habeous Corpus

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:15 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1693 accepted (Stuff)

Proposal 1693
Stuff
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  12 / 19 = 63.157895%
Yes:  12    No:  0     Present:  1   ...Proposal accepted.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1693

YES votes:
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Strider
	fnord
	Swann
	breadbox
	ThinMan
	Lestrade
	Guy Fawkes
	Mohammed
	Malenkai
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:
	Robert Sevin

Active players who did not vote:
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Habeous Corpus

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1693
Stuff
Malenkai

This is a Modest proposal.

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

I. [at least provide a sequence and reference to all end of cycle stuff
that is not part of R 666.  I almost forgot about the Archaeologist
last time.  Account for pass/fail of P 1690]

a) Amend Rule 666, "End of Cycle", to add the following section
directly before the section which contains "Ackanomic play resumes":

"
x) All events specified by other rules to occur at the end of the cycle
occur, in the numeric order of the rule that defines the event [see
rules 593 and 670]. 
"

then reletter each lettered section sequentially, starting with 'a'.

- --

b) Amend Rule 593, "Ackanomic Research Guild", to replace:

"
The Office of Archaeologist has one seat. This seat is filled or
transferred only as follows: At the end of a Cycle, before player 
scores are reset, this seat is transferred to the single player who
has the highest score which is both a prime number and not equivalent
to the Magic Number, and is not already a Scientist. If no such player
exists, this seat is not transferred (nor filled if vacant). 
"

with:

"
The Office of Archaeologist has one seat. This seat is filled or
transferred only as follows: At the end of a Cycle, this seat is
transferred to the single player who had the highest score when the
cycle ended, which was both a prime number and not equivalent
to the Magic Number at that time, and who is not already a Scientist.
If no such player exists, this seat is not transferred (nor filled if
vacant). 
"

- --

c) Amend Rule 670, "Commission d'Arts", to remove the following sentence:

"
This clause takes precedence over any other in any rule dealing with
the starting of a Commission d'Arts session. 
"
 
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------

II.  [de-goosing some precedence]

a) Amend R 1211, "Boons of the Ancients" to remove the following sentence:

"This takes precedence over the rule entitled "Chartreuse Goose""

b) Amend R 1240.11, "Otzma Card Type Foul Fowl" to remove the following
sentence:

"This rule takes precedence over rule 235."

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

III. [replacing machine truth revelation precedence with deferrence]
 
a) Amend Rule 1240.12, "Otzma Card of type TruthSeeker" to remove the
following sentence:

"This rule has precedence over Rule 1209 where there is a conflict."
 
b) Amend Rule 1209, "The Machine That Goes *ping*", to replace:

"
IV. It is strictly against this rule for the Scholar to use any means
whatsoever, other than those described in this rule, to communicate any
information regarding the Truth to any player, so long as the Truth
remains unknown to all players but him.
"

with:

"
IV. It is strictly against this rule for the Scholar to use any means
whatsoever, other than those described in the rules, to communicate any
information regarding the Truth to any player, so long as the undisguised
Truth is not publically knowable.
"

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------

IV. [Shortening On-Ice shelf life]

Amend Rule 255, "Vacationing", to replace

"on ice for 90 consecutive days" with "on ice for 60 consecutive days"

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------

V. [I've been meaning to do this for awhile]

Amend Rule 374, "Self Deleting Text", to add the following paragraph
directly before the one which begins with "Any text":

"
If a rule contains more sets of left double curly braces than right
double curly braces, that rule is amended to append a set of right
double curly braces after all of its other text.
"

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------

VI. [Stuff requiring a rule]

Create a new rule with the following text:

{{
A. [executing the Eponimondas CFCJ, sort of]

If an Undead named Eponimondas exists [this will occur in the CFJ 340
FALSE thread], perform the following actions in the order listed:

a) A$20 is transferred from the treasury to /dev/joe.
b) The undead known as Eponimondas stops haunting all A$s it is
haunting
c) The undead known as Eponimondas starts haunting A$500.

- ----

B. [common sense for the automatic sculpture]

a) Amend the Blueprint for "Automatic Sculpture" to replace:

"
When an Automatic Sculpture is buried as a Treasure
"

with:

"
When an Automatic Sculpture is buried as, or as part of, a Treasure
"
}}

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:16 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1696 accepted (Prelude to Pretty Powerful Party Pieces)

Proposal 1696
Prelude to Pretty Powerful Party Pieces
Malenkai

Votes cast by active players:  12 / 19 = 63.157895%
Yes:  10    No:  0     Present:  3   ...Proposal accepted.

Malenkai +2 : EP P1696

YES votes:
	/dev/joe
	Niccolo Flychuck
	Strider
	fnord
	Swann
	ThinMan
	Guy Fawkes
	Mohammed
	Malenkai
	Vulcan Unity vote

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:
	Robert Sevin
	breadbox
	Lestrade

Active players who did not vote:
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	snowgod
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Habeous Corpus

Text of accepted proposal:

Proposal 1696
Prelude to Pretty Powerful Party Pieces
Malenkai

This is a Modest proposal.

Amend R 1230.1, "Swingers Play Around I - the board and the playing pieces"
to add the following sub-section directly after section 3, sub-section I:

      J.  A PartyChessPieceDef rule may define an instance limit for
that type of piece.  If it does not, there is no instance limit for
that piece.  Instance limits are always enforced on a per Swinger
basis.  If such a limit is defined, a Swinger may not control
more pieces than the limit; if it is ever found that e possesses pieces
in excess of the specified limit, all excess pieces are destroyed until
this situation is corrected, starting with off-board pieces.  If 
random determination is required to perform this destruction, the
Chess-Umpire shall handle it.

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:28:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1699 failed quorum (Chess Things)

On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Jason Orendorff wrote:
> Proposal 1699
> Chess Things
> Niccolo Flychuck
> 
> Votes cast by active players:  7 / 19 = 36.842105%
> Yes:  5    No:  0     Present:  2   ...Proposal failed quorum.
	Uh oh.

> Niccolo Flychuck +2 : EP P1699
	Needless to say, Niccolo Flychuck does not in fact get A$2 for this 
proposal.

	Okay, snowgod is on vacation... and I am not sure that Ludwig is
active yet.  Is e?  It doesn't look like that's going to be enough,
though.  If the registrar could please look through his list and tell me
whether any of the other players listed below are not-yet-active or
vacationing, it would be a big help-- thanks.
	Unless we can get rid of another 3 players, or there are other 
extenuating circumstances, all of you are on vacation as of that 
message:

> Active players who did not vote:
> 	fnord
> 	Robert Sevin
> 	Ludwig
> 	Calvin N Hobbes
> 	Niccolo Flychuck
> 	snowgod
> 	breadbox
> 	/dev/joe
> 	Narf
> 	Techno
> 	mr cwm
> 	Habeous Corpus

	In any case, all the *other* proposal results that read "failed 
quorum" are ***incorrect*** and can be ignored.  Corrected results will be 
out shortly.

- --Mohammed

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:14:17 -0600
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  P1697 failed quorum (Chess Things)

Proposal 1697
Chess Things
Niccolo Flychuck

Votes cast by active players:  9 / 19 = 47.368421%
Yes:  6    No:  0     Present:  3   ...Proposal failed quorum.

Niccolo Flychuck +2 : EP P1697

YES votes:
	Mohammed
	ThinMan
	Lestrade
	Guy Fawkes
	Swann
	Strider

NO votes:

PRESENT votes:
	Malenkai
	Robert Sevin
	fnord

Active players who did not vote:
	Ludwig
	Calvin N Hobbes
	Niccolo Flychuck
	snowgod
	breadbox
	/dev/joe
	Narf
	Techno
	mr cwm
	Habeous Corpus

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:52:09 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1699 failed quorum (Chess Things)

> On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Jason Orendorff wrote:
> > Proposal 1699
> > Votes cast by active players:  7 / 19 = 36.842105%
> > Yes:  5    No:  0     Present:  2   ...Proposal failed quorum.
> 	Uh oh.

> 	Okay, snowgod is on vacation... and I am not sure that Ludwig is
> active yet.  Is e?  It doesn't look like that's going to be enough,
> though.

I believe snowgod is still on vacation.  Ludwig and Narf are not
active yet.  However, this set of results should be ignored
entirely because the proposal was retracted.

I will try to figure out if P1700 made quorum.

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:57:11 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  destruction

I smile as my fellow Scientist, under the influences of my brainchild, 
the Orbital Mind Control Laser, hands over the 23 fragments of the 
Runestone.  I put them in the pocket of my Champion's Cloak; I will read 
them in a moment.  First, there is an item of business to attend to.

I slowly unroll the Scroll Malenkai has just given to me and read:

Fire and rain, sleet and hail,
Descend upon our desert plain
Strange winds roll and tethers wail
Whistling with a sad disdain.

From deceit and tricky schemes
Springs a bolt of magic flame.
Forth it leaps, and lo it gleams,
Blazing coldly in my name.

In the tumult words I spoke
Prayers to a chaotic One...
Zot!  And in a puff of smoke--
A Gadget is undone.

I name Red Barn's Scroll of Crumble.

It begins to rain.  Malenkai, next to me, does not seem to notice it as he
docilely crunches potato chips.  Drained and wet, I try to put on a cheery
facade and return the housewarming party at the Castle on a Cloud.  The
storm of magic has left me dazed-- and the Runestone fragments lie
forgotten at the bottom of my Cloak pocket. 

- --Mohammed

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:59:54 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka:  P1700 failed quorum (Prime Otzma)

> Proposal 1700
> Votes cast by active players:  8 / 19 = 42.105263%
> Yes:  7    No:  1     Present:  1   ...Proposal failed quorum.

> YES votes:
> 	Guy Fawkes
> 	/dev/joe
> 	Niccolo Flychuck
> 	ThinMan
> 	Swann
> 	Strider
> 	Vulcan Unity vote
> NO votes:
> 	Malenkai
> PRESENT votes:
> 	Lestrade

8 players voted.

> Active players who did not vote:
> 	Mohammed
> 	fnord
> 	Robert Sevin
> 	Ludwig [not active]
> 	Calvin N Hobbes
> 	snowgod [vacationing]
> 	breadbox
> 	Narf [not active]
> 	Techno
> 	mr cwm
> 	Habeous Corpus [quit the game]

This leaves 8 votes and 7 abstains.
However, you seem to be missing Red Barn and Jammer from your list.
(Bascule is also missing, but he's on vacation.)

This makes 8 votes and 9 abstains, and the proposal fails to meet quorum.
Mohammed, fnord, Robert Sevin, Calvin N Hobbes, breadbox, Techno, mr cwm,
Jammer, and Red Barn are put on vacation, and then none of the other
proposal results count because Mohammed can't release proposal results
while he's on vacation. :-)

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:09:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1700 failed quorum (Prime Otzma)

> This makes 8 votes and 9 abstains, and the proposal fails to meet quorum.
> Mohammed, fnord, Robert Sevin, Calvin N Hobbes, breadbox, Techno, mr cwm,
> Jammer, and Red Barn are put on vacation, and then none of the other
> proposal results count because Mohammed can't release proposal results
> while he's on vacation. :-)
	Okay.  But can other people vote while the proposal results are 
being held up?  I don't think the rules allow voting after the VP is up...
although my bot doesn't bother with it...

- --Mohammed

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:14:25 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: destruction (again)

I am hereby returning from vacation.

I smile as my fellow Scientist, under the influences of my brainchild, 
the Orbital Mind Control Laser, hands over the 23 fragments of the 
Runestone.  I put them in the pocket of my Champion's Cloak; I will read 
them in a moment.  First, there is an item of business to attend to.

I slowly unroll the Scroll Malenkai has just given to me and read:

 Fire and rain, sleet and hail,
 Descend upon our desert plain
 Strange winds roll and tethers wail
 Whistling with a sad disdain.

 From deceit and tricky schemes
 Springs a bolt of magic flame.
 Forth it leaps, and lo it gleams,
 Blazing coldly in my name.

 In the tumult words I spoke
 Prayers to a chaotic One...
 Zot!  And in a puff of smoke--
 A Gadget is undone.

I name Red Barn's Scroll of Crumble.

It begins to rain.  Malenkai, next to me, does not seem to notice it as he
docilely crunches potato chips.  Drained and wet, I try to put on a cheery
facade and return the housewarming party at the Castle on a Cloud.  The
storm of magic has left me dazed-- and the Runestone fragments lie
forgotten at the bottom of my Cloak pocket. 

- --Mohammed
(wasting bandwidth)

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:22:32 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFJ 346 (Strider)

Strider has been chosen.

Clerk of the Courts
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Call For Judgement 346
  Subject: Inconsistent
Initiator: Malenkai
    Judge: Strider (selected Feb 06, 1997, 23:23h EST)
Judgement:

Statement:

Malenkai did not accept the trade quoted below, and was the victim of
an Orbital Mind Control Laser.

Malenkai's Reasoning:

The following offer was offer to Malenkai, who never accepted
it.  However, the OMCL transferred the entities anyway.  The ftp
archives will verify that Malenkai never accepted this offer.

A verdict of FALSE should quote Malenkai's acceptance, as a matter of
record, if such a verdict is rendered.

> I hereby offer Malenkai the Trinket I received in the Castle on a Cloud
> (one of the Little Bags O' Chips), in exchange for all the Trinkets e owns
> whose names contain two consecutive 'k's *and* Malenkai's Scroll of
> Crumble.

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:25:46 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1700 failed quorum (Prime Otzma)

Mohammed wrote:
> > This makes 8 votes and 9 abstains, and the proposal fails to meet quorum.
> > Mohammed, fnord, Robert Sevin, Calvin N Hobbes, breadbox, Techno, mr cwm,
> > Jammer, and Red Barn are put on vacation, and then none of the other
> > proposal results count because Mohammed can't release proposal results
> > while he's on vacation. :-)
> 	Okay.  But can other people vote while the proposal results are 
> being held up? 

I don't think they can.  But re-release the results now while the
abstaining players are mostly on vacation.

Also note that proposals 1697 and 1705 were also retracted, and
when proposal 1700 failed due to quorum it broke an 11-proposal
chrome streak.   BIG :-(

/dev/joe

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:30:29 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1700 failed quorum (Prime Otzma)

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> I don't think they can.  But re-release the results now while the
> abstaining players are mostly on vacation.

Niccolo Flychuck is the acting promoter.  Mohammed cannot do that.

Malenkai

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:36:36 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: CFCJ 129 (Strider)

Strider has been chosen (again)

Malenkai -20 court fee

Clerk of the Courts
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Call for Criminal Judgement 129
  Subject:  Illegal return from vacation
Initiator:  Malenkai
    Judge:  Strider (selected Feb 06, 1997, 23:36 EST)
Judgement:  

Statement:

Mohammed committed a crime.

Malenkai's Reasoning:

Mohammed attempted to preform the following game action exactly 1 hour
after he was placed on vacation as a result of proposal 1700 failing
quorum:

> I am hereby returning from vacation.

R 255 is explicit, however:

> The one exception is that a player who has been on vacation less
> than 2 days may not take themselves off vacation.

Mohammed was on vacation less than 2 days, thus attempted to break
the rules.

Suggested Penalty:

TRANSFERRENCE of all Scrolls of Crumble, and all Runestone of Jukkasjarvi
Fragments possessed by Mohammed to the initiator of the CFCJ.  
Unfortunately, in their hasty departure, I could not transcribe the
runes for further release, and need to see them again.

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:40:18 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Supreme Court

ThinMan and Malenkai are acting Supreme Court justices, by rule.
We will attempt to deliver verdicts on the following CFJs with
all due haste:

CFJ 330 (6.5 days overdue)
CFJ 341 (due monday)

Malenkai
Speaker

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:42:38 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Inventor

By rule, I may not be acting inventor.

I am appointing /dev/joe acting Inventor, as he has been doing the
Inventor's duties for all this time anyway :)

Malenkai
Speaker

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