Subject: Ackanomic Digest V1 #435
From: [email-masked] (Ackanomic Digest)
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Ackanomic Digest       Saturday, January 4 1997       Volume 01 : Number 435

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:17:44 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka:  names (fwd) - correction

Apparently I have completely ignored the signature at the bottom of that
letter. Strider's real name is actually Jason McCulley.

Niccolo Flychuck
acting Registrar

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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 15:47:54 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: names

Salutations!
		A small addendum to your announcement.  My name is Jason  McCulley. 
My father's is Stephen.  This is however, his account, so it is his name
which will accompany my mail.  Please excuse the inconvenience.

				Regards,
					Jason

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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:52:29 -0800 (PST)
From: fnord <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Ack!

snowgod spake thusly
> 
> Fnord,
> 
> Go to the Ackanomic digest FTP archives at:
> 
> ftp://wilma.che.utexas.edu/acka/ackanomic-digest/

Thank you kindly for the information.

> Also, request that anyone who has sent you private mail, or pepople that
> you have been corresponsing with resend anything that they have sent since
> christams eve.

I had no problems with my mail from anywhere else, just the mail that 
was being filtered into my Ackanomic mailbox.

> Finally, buy a Macintosh (preferably a clone by Power Computing) and you
> will never have silly little problems like this again :)

Actually, I *do* own a Macintosh, but I'd rather not use it for mail,
especially considering the number of times I've seen problems happening 
with Eudora on a Mac. *grin* 

fnord

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:59:26 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Trinket: Jammer's Butler

On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, John Martin Lotz wrote:

> Oh, such is life,  Can I withdraw the purchase?
> 

A trinket can always be converted back to its value in A$.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 01:59:13 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Trinket: Jammer's Butler

Uri Bruck wrote:

> A trinket can always be converted back to its value in A$.

Well, almost always.  This assumes there is $A in the treasury to
back such a conversion, as there are now.  I am thinking of attempting
to amend this so that trinkets + treasury always = 75000.  I'm not
sure which I like better.

Malenkai

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:33:20 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Trinket: Jammer's Butler

On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Malenkai wrote:

> Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> > A trinket can always be converted back to its value in A$.
> 
> Well, almost always.  This assumes there is $A in the treasury to
> back such a conversion, as there are now.  I am thinking of attempting
> to amend this so that trinkets +treasury always = 75000.  I'm not
> sure which I like better.
> 
> Malenkai

I like that. I would support such an ammenedment.

Niccolo Flychuck

> 

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:28:02 -0600
From: Mitchell Harding <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Ghost (snowgod) 

>> I play "nytim". It is now Lestrade's turn.
>> 
>> breadbox
>> 
>I resign. It is now Robert Sevin's turn.
>
>Lestrade

I play "anytim". It is now snowgod's turn.

Robert Sevin

>> Turn order
>> ----------
>> Robert Sevin
>> snowgod
>> breadbox

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:40:45 -0500 (EST)
From: mr cwm <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Return from Vacation

To:   Ackanomians
From: mr cwm

I hereby return from vacation.  I haven't dared to look at the rule set
yet ... is any better organized (or shorter)?

Is there anything I need to do right away?

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 11:56:12 -0800
From: Stephen McCulley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Trinket: Jammer's Butler

Malenkai wrote:
> 
> Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> > A trinket can always be converted back to its value in A$.
> 
> Well, almost always.  This assumes there is $A in the treasury to
> back such a conversion, as there are now.  I am thinking of attempting
> to amend this so that trinkets + treasury always = 75000.  I'm not
> sure which I like better.
> 
> Malenkai

	Wouldn't it be better to say that the value of the treasury (in A$)
must always be equal to or greater than the total value of all trinkets?

				Regards,
					Jason

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:15:58 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: RFC G&C Fascist

> You don't state who is the next Emeror,  I would say the winner should.
	There is no "next Emperor"; the game just ends.  I tried to write 
it in such a way that it would be suitable for duels; in that case 
a neverending game isn't what is wanted.

> What happens if everyone is dismissed.  Can a new game be started?
	Sure.  ...Actually the way this is written, the game doesn't end 
at that point.  Hmm.

> If there is only one peasant, does e have a forced win?
	No.  

> Are there three options in the Emeror's responce  apply, 
> ignore and scowl or are there two?
	He must either answer the plea, ignore it, or scowl at it.

> What happens if the Emeror tries to froce a perpetual game?
	He is free to do so.  If this is a flaw, it is inherent in 
Fascist, not just in this implementation of it; and there's not really an 
easy fix.  I like for the Emperor to have an inordinate amount of power.

> IMNSHO, themes add interest to shorter nomics, could 
> they be added?
	Sure, any ideas? 

> Could Fascist affect the game state in Acka?
	Yes.  Check out R1206 ("Games & Contests") for the gory details. 

> Join Inter Nomic?
	Perhaps.

> Get a Trinket ? or import/export ruleset items :) ?
	I dunno.  Perhaps.

- --Mohammed

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:57:07 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: New Internomic Proposals 

There is one new internomic proposal, on which I am initiating a senate
vote.  Pending some unforseen bug, I strongly urge to senate to vote YES!

snowgod

Internomic P319:

Let rule 215 be amended to read:

The voting members of this Nomic are: AckaNomic, Agora, Thring and
Pumpkin Patch Nomic. The moderator maintains a list of non-voting members.

Let a rule be created with the text:
A nomic that is not a member may become a non-voting member. This is done
by its liaison sending a message to the moderator clearly indicating such.
The moderator must announce such a change of membership.
- -------------

>
>Commentary: This allows Nomics that want to be members to become
>nonvoting members (and then, if wanted, propose the rule change that
>will make them voting members)

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:58:43 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Return from Vacation 

>To:   Ackanomians
>From: mr cwm
>
>I hereby return from vacation.  I haven't dared to look at the rule set
>yet ... is any better organized (or shorter)?
>
>Is there anything I need to do right away?

You must thank me for and admire your Silly Vacation Hat :)

snowgod

>mr cwm's Silly Vacation Hat is a tall, pointy red stocking cap, trimmed
>with the finest white fur.  The tip of the hat, which is complete with fur
>dongly ball, bends down and hangs about even with his ear. Attached to the
>hat is a marvelous fake white beard the melds itself to its wthe face of
>it's wearer in a most convincing way.
>
>When worn, the wearer will appear to be dessed all in fur, from his head
>to his foot, his clothes looking all tarnished, with ashes, and soot, a
>bundle of toys, flung over his back, he'll look just like a pedler just
>opening his pack.  His eyes, how they'll twinkle, his dimples so merry.
>His cheeks 'll be like roses, his nose, like a cherry!  His droll little
>mouth will be drawn up like a bow, and his fake beard will be as white as
>the snow.  The stump of a pipe, you'll see tween his teeth, and the smoke
>will encircle his head like a wreath.  He'll have a broad face, and a
>little round belly, and it'll shake, when he laughs, like a bowl full of
>jelly.
>
>Indeed, the SVH, when worn will make mr cwm look a a right jolly old elf.
>You'll laugh when you see him, in spite of yourself.
>

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:16:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Fictionary

Round 5 of Fictionary continues.

All Bluffers have submitted definitions for the current ing word
"buddle". No Bluffer submitted a correct definition. The list of
definitions, ordered with the help of the Ackanomic Magic Dice, is as
follows:

1) To confuse a situation intentionally.

2) An apparatus on which crushed ore is washed.

3) The pool of blood that forms under the body of a stabbing or
   gunshot victim.

4) A bolt of cloth.

5) To sneak to one's lover's residence under the cover of darkness.

6) A congenital growth or mark on the skin, such as a mole or birthmark.

7) A small, rare bird native to northern Scotland.

Send your votes to the public forum within the next three days.

breadbox
Brainiac

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:28:41 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: I'm Back, and the Machine's truth

I am back in Austin, and I am working on updating all of the web pages.
All the proposals are up in a minimal form (so you can check on these
to vote on them), and I voted (Please vote!) and submitted a fictionary
definition, etc.

A lot of miscellaneous bits have been updated also (phoebe, CFJ's,
SVH's, the new player, the new church member, etc.) -- clearing out
my mailbox a lot.

The results of the proposals that passed or failed since I left have
not been updated yet, but I will try to get it done tonight.

I have one other piece of business to announce -- I figured out the
truth of the Machine that goes *ping*.  I believe it is:

      IF AND ONLY IF today directly precedes a date which is not cubic
nor prime nor square, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

/dev/joe

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:30:30 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary

I vote for definition number 2:

> 2) An apparatus on which crushed ore is washed.

/dev/joe

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:39:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping* Magic Letter Request

Malenkai, Scholar of *ping*, I would like to know if the following
might be considered to be the Truth of the Machine That Goes *ping*:

IF AND ONLY IF today directly precedes a date which is not cubic nor
prime nor square, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

breadbox
risking being the first student to be publicly ridiculed twice

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:52:19 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: P1654 Votes and other stuff 

/dev/joe has pointed out to me that the voting results for P1564 that I
released only contained the proposal and not the votes.  Here are the
correct votes:

YES:

Habeous Corpus
Lestrade
ThinMan
Guy Fawkes
Niccolo Flychuck
AirHead
snowgod

NO:

Mohammed
/dev/joe
breadbox

PRESENT:

Malenkai
Robert Sevin

Quorum was met and the proposal passed. Thanks to /dev/joe for pointing
this out to me.

By the way, I'll be releasing more voting results later tonight (I hope I
hope).  I am going to be using a new set of macros, so if the results look
discombobulated, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

snowgod
tabulator
thinking of proposing propresidential imperium so us dried up and washed
out ex leaders have control over something :)

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:26:10 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Awards

I am awarding one silver stripe each to Malenkai and snowgod.

/dev/joe
Senator

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 20:33:33 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: I'm Back, and the Machine's truth

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> I have one other piece of business to announce -- I figured out the
> truth of the Machine that goes *ping*.  I believe it is:
> 
>       IF AND ONLY IF today directly precedes a date which is not cubic
> nor prime nor square, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

To /dev/joe the wise:

I give you the Pedestal of *ping* to place you new Machine that
goes *ping* on (which would traditionally accompany the Machine on its
journeys through Acka).  We tried to throw a curve ball in there by
making it depend not on the date itself, but you were not fooled.

Your timing of the solution is interesting.  Did that 'm' in 'prime'
give it to you?  I didn't think that would really help.  I'm sure the
crowd would like to hear your discovery process.

Malenaki
ex-Scholar of *ping*

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:46:42 -6:00
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary

> 1) To confuse a situation intentionally.
> 

On Guy Fawkes behalf, I vote for number 1.

Techno

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 20:35:30 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping* Magic Letter Request

Brian Raiter wrote:
> 
> Malenkai, Scholar of *ping*, I would like to know if the following
> might be considered to be the Truth of the Machine That Goes *ping*:
> 
> IF AND ONLY IF today directly precedes a date which is not cubic nor
> prime nor square, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.

A correct solution 11 minutes after /dev/joe's, and 5 days after the 
most recent *ping*.  Interesting.  As much as I'd like to praise or
ridicule you, best of luck next time.  I'm sure the crowd would be
interested in how you found it as well.

Malenkai

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 20:44:39 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary

Brian Raiter wrote:
> 
> Round 5 of Fictionary continues.

I vote:

> 2) An apparatus on which crushed ore is washed.

I note that at least two definitions will be ridiculed this
round.

Malenkai

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:15:36 -0900
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Fictionary 

I vote for #2, may god have mercy on my soul...

>2) An apparatus on which crushed ore is washed.

snowgod
who doesn't have a clue

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:17:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: I'm Back, and the Machine's truth

Malenkai wrote:
> Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
> >       IF AND ONLY IF today directly precedes a date which is not cubic
> > nor prime nor square, THEN the Machine That Goes *ping* shall go *ping*.
> 
> Your timing of the solution is interesting.  Did that 'm' in 'prime'
> give it to you?  I didn't think that would really help.  I'm sure the
> crowd would like to hear your discovery process.

The m didn't help; I'd already guessed that that word might be "prime",
though I wasn't sure of the rest of it.  The sequence of mostly odd
dates, skipping around somewhat erratically, made me think that primeness
had something to do with it, but I hadn't figured out exactly what,
and the occasional even date (combined with the length of this truth)
made me believe that there was more to it.

I had tried to consider that it might be days that were a prime number
of days before or after some other event -- December 5, 9, 11, 13, and 14
are 11, 7, 5, 3, and 2 days before December 16, but that day has no
special significance I could see, nor did the date itself fit into the 
truth, and the pattern doesn't continue.

Finally, when I was updating the Machine's web page with the truth with
the m filled in, as I looked at the "**r***** *r****** * ****" at the
beginning of the truth for about the 10th time, I finally realized that
what might fit there is "directly precedes a date", followed by "which is".
I quickly tested my hypothesis, writing out the dates following each of
the *ping* dates.  30, 6, 10, 12, 14, 15, 18, 20, 21, 22, 24, 26, 28, and
30 again.

None of these were prime, so I guessed that the last part was "not *****
nor prime nor ****r*".  Now I wrote out all the numbers from 1 to 31, and
crossed out all the primes and the numbers for the dates after the *ping*
days.  The remaining numbers, 1, 4, 8, 16, 25, and 27, comprised all the
numbers in 2 simple categories, squares and cubes, completing the truth.

A new truth will be coming, but meanwhile, I set the machine on its
pedestal, and I go to work on the scores and rule set while I wait
for an ancient boon to pop out of the machine.

/dev/joe

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 21:29:58 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: New Player (mentor - Malenkai)

Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> We have a new player in the game
> Real name [Jason] McCulley
> Ackanomic name Strider
> email [email-masked]
> 
> Malenkai has been chosen as eir Mentor.

Welcome to the Game!  Your starting cash is A$900.  I am your mentor,
which means you can e-mail me at [email-masked] with questions.

BTW, are you from the eastern Pennsylvania area?  I recognize the ISP
as one from around here.

Malenkai

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 21:56:26 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Internomic: Results P317 and P318

Phil Ackley wrote:
> 
> Pumpkin Patch nomic is now a voting member of Internomic.

> Proposal 318 passed, Ackanomic voting FOR, Agora FOR.

Did snowgod propose this?  If so, he scores 7 points, I think.

Jan 02 14:45 EST: +7 snowgod: Internomic proposal 318.

- ---

Also, could the Ambassador get me the URL of Pumpkin Patch Nomic, and
their Liaison's name and e-mail address so I can properly update the
Internomic home page?

thx
Malenkai

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:33:01 -0800
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Boon determination

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# I am using the dice server to determine /dev/joe's boon from the machine
# based on the following (using a 100 sided die):
# 1 -45: ancient artifact (random gadget)
# 46-70: ancient scroll (random otzma card)
# 71-80: gods are smiling (bonus vote)
# 81-87: ancient relic (trinket worth A$75)
# 88-92: ancient knowledge (new blueprint)
# 93-97: ancient wisdom (new otzma card)
# 98-99: gods are bored (pointy ears)
#  100 : gods are grouchy (chartreuse goose)
# Malenkai

No. of sides on every die:    100
No. of dice for every roll:     1
No. of dice rolls requested:    1
No. of rolls per line:          1

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:44:10 -0800
From: [email-masked] (Dice server)
Subject: Acka: Machine Gadget determination

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# based on the following (using a 9 sided die):
# 1) Electronic Potato
# 2) Scroll of Crumble
# 3) Blue Thing
# 4) Whamiol
# 5) Loophole Machine (whoops, thats 'Vending' :)
# 6) Pyraic Frobnotzer
# 7) Automatic Scuplture
# 8) OMCL
# 9) Grav. Monopole
# Malenkai

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:48:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping* Magic Letter Request

> A correct solution 11 minutes after /dev/joe's, and 5 days after the 
> most recent *ping*.  Interesting.  As much as I'd like to praise or
> ridicule you, best of luck next time.  I'm sure the crowd would be
> interested in how you found it as well.

The 'm' did help me; once I saw that, and the two three-letter words
ending in 'r' around it, I quickly figured out that the truth ended in
"a date which is not ***** nor prime nor square". However, there were
a few primes and one square in the list of dates. I wrote a program to
examine offsets of the list, and quickly found that adding one
produced a set that was neither prime nor square. Even so, it was
quite some time later that the word "precedes" finally occured to
me. (I had also fallen asleep while writing the program, and had to
leave it for almost a day.) Once I figured out that, "directly" came
soon after. I checked every date and found that 7 and 26 should have
been in there and weren't, making it obvious that the remaining word
was "cubic". After I double-checked my work, I got on-line and posted
my guess. /dev/joe's guess arrived in my mailbox soon afterwards. (If
I hadn't stopped to double-check it, we might have had another Hubert
situation....)

b

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:51:52 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Score Report

Assistant Web-Harfers wanted!
Those who are already maintaining pages linked from the main page should
volunteer to maintain those pages to officially become Assistant Web-Harfers.

Scoring since the last score report:
- ------------------------------------
Mohammed -3 for failing to post what phoebe said
Robert Sevin +6 for posting what phoebe said (see also below)
P1540 accepted, newplayer author scoring
Habeous Corpus +30, snowgod +15: Whamiol points for Lestrade becoming active
P1541-1543 scoring: 1542 modest
  [All the above happened before the end of the last bond cycle.
   Malenkai, did you catch the Whamiol scoring, and that snowgod reported
   P1543 as modest scoring when it wasn't?  If not, you may need to
   redo the bond yields.]
Swingpoint conversion: If I understand things correctly, we were misfiguring
  the swingpoints before.  The past score changes from swingpoints happened
  more than 2 weeks ago, so there were just 2 and 1 swingpoint given to
  NF and snowgod last time, and NF gave snowgod his swingpoints, so I've
  recorded this as snowgod +3.
P1544-1575 scoring:
  1544 modest
  1547 modest,tuba
  after 1547: Whamiol scoring for 23 Skidoo becoming active
  1554 modest (snowgod reported this as newplayer scoring, but Jammer's
    three weeks were already up before this was posted)
  after 1555: Whamiol scoring for Jammer becoming active
  1560 modest
  1564 newplayer author score (votes posted later)
  1571 short
  1569 newplayer rejected scoring; author did not vote yes.
  1570 author did not vote yes.
  1572,1574,1573 modest
  1575 amended how R207 gives points, no R207 scoring by R208.
Robert Sevin -12: phoebe hearing
snowgod +7: internomic P318 accepted
P1564 scoring for NO votes.

This assumes no other scoring oddities like null proposals;
I have not yet updated the rule set.

Other issues:
- -------------
The tornado did not change any scores, as there was a bomb shelter, but
did it knock any buildings off the earth?  I don't know if all the dangling
buildings were blessed or reattached before the tornado.

By my count, only Guy Fawkes, BuzzBee, and 23 Skidoo are still on
vacation, and only Strider, G. Peefalt, and BuzzBee are not yet active.

All the Victory Eggplants except Bascule's were destroyed over the
past few weeks.

Current Scores:
- ---------------
Score   Ackanomic Name   Status  Real Name
- -----   --------------      ---  -------------
194     Habeous Corpus       A   (Ed Graham)
151     Guy Fawkes           V   (Robert Shimmin)
137     snowgod              A   (Phil Ackley)
66      Niccolo Flychuck     A   (Uri Bruck)
57      Malenkai             A   (Randy Hall)
41      Swann                A   (Steven Swiniarski)
36      mr cwm               A   (Eric Murray)
36      /dev/joe             A   (Joseph DeVincentis)
30      ThinMan              A   (John Bollinger)
30      Lestrade             A   (John Duncan)
27      Jammer               A   (John Lotz)
27      AirHead              A   (Eric Freeman)
21      Techno               A   (Jerome Herrman)
19      Mohammed             A   (Jason Orendorff)
18      Calvin N Hobbes      Ag  (Thierry Joffrain)
14      fnord                A   (Michael Thomas)
12      Robert Sevin         A   (Mitchell Harding)
10      breadbox             A   (Brian Raiter)
0       Strider              N   (Jason McCulley)
0       G. Peefalt           N   (Aaron Morris)
0       BuzzBee             NV   (John Coifman)
0       23 Skidoo            V   (David Thomas Fisher)
- -2      Clairence            A   (Clair Anthony Viglione)
- -15     Bascule              Av  (Matt Black)

Status:
A=Active, N=New, V=Vacationing, IV=Involuntary Vacation, I=On Ice,
D=Dead, R=Returning (non-active), v=Victory Eggplant, g=Chartreuse Goose

/dev/joe
Scorekeeper
Web-Harfer

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:00:54 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: Acka: *ping* Magic Letter Request

breadbox wrote:
> After I double-checked my work, I got on-line and posted
> my guess. /dev/joe's guess arrived in my mailbox soon afterwards. (If
> I hadn't stopped to double-check it, we might have had another Hubert
> situation...)

I double-checked mine too, so we're even on that one (and I wrote
all that other stuff).

Lately it seems I've become breadbox's evil twin, who solves every
puzzle only a few minutes before he does. :-)

/dev/joe

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 22:57:35 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Score Report

Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:
> 
> Assistant Web-Harfers wanted!
> Those who are already maintaining pages linked from the main page
> should volunteer to maintain those pages to officially become
> Assistant Web-Harfers.

I volunteer for the pages I currently maintain.  Do I have to submit
a list?  BTW, itw is totally hosed tonite, so you will get a

The requested URL /~malenkai was not found on this server

if you try to access my pages.  As glaciers move faster than their
technical support on weekends, it will probably be a while before they are
available.
  
>    Malenkai, did you catch the Whamiol scoring, and that snowgod reported
>    P1543 as modest scoring when it wasn't?  If not, you may need to
>    redo the bond yields

Could you just rerun scores as of the last bond date, and I will compare
them and delta them against the copy I did for myself and used?  That
seems like the safest way.

> The tornado did not change any scores, as there was a bomb shelter, but
> did it knock any buildings off the earth?  I don't know if all the dangling
> buildings were blessed or reattached before the tornado.

I believe only houses are affected, and all houses were blessed.
Furthermore, due to the way I render the Tornado rule, it has no
effect whatsoever if there is a Bomb Shelter, qv P 1587.
 
> By my count, only Guy Fawkes, BuzzBee, and 23 Skidoo are still on
> vacation, and only Strider, G. Peefalt, and BuzzBee are not yet active.

BuzzBee is On Ice, unless the holiday does not count towards vacation
duration.

Malenkai

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:07:27 -0800
From: [email-masked] (John Martin Lotz)
Subject: Random Event:  What is the current Price of Land in Acka?

Between holidays, vacations, the soltice, and everything
else, its hard to calculate; but I figure that at least a week
has passed since 12 December, 1996 and I haven't seen 
the current price of land posted.

Jammer

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Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 23:08:58 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Prayer

[due to the fact that it looks like itw is about to go down for good,
I have no choce but to hurry and post the last prayer I posted to appease
the gods of weather.  Oh well, thats the breaks.  It still leads to a 
treasure ;)]

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------

"spoken in tongues"
is this prayer of deliverance I have unintentionally, unconditionally,
and unharmoniously transcribed from the text of the ancients.

The ancients, in calculating the circumference of the earth, have
calculated pi for us to a whole lot of places, and generally thought
pi was the key to deliverence, among other things.  My own calculations
of pi have produced a slightly different value, but the ancients
were probably right.  Their litanies, in addition to pi, often mentioned
walruses and large marine life as well, but I did not see the need to
transcribe those prayers at this time.  Perhaps next month.

3.13 749 106 594 5 1 93 6 11 322 51 322 3 13 8 590 39 372 -20 647 -92
93 35 50 18 960 -15 554 34 964 3 4 4 524 12 1038 23 651 17 818 52 896 -3
5 15 5 21 5 18 57 -1 1 -21 16 26 14 -2 14 -1 651 17 770 28 208 3 458 83
340 146 254 42 254 61 254 0 254 66 254 26 254 -27 254 27 254 -25 254 29
254 11 428 5 102 24 1063 29 57 -1 109 34 30 -9 ...

I should conclude my prayer that it is possible that a trancription
error has been made, and, if you point such to my attention, I shall
gladly research my texts for you.

Despite my irascible nature lately, which I assure you is only temporary,
I love acka as a game and the people are great.

Malenkai
Priest of the Church of the Markovian Dream
Praying the prayers of the ancients

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:15:22 -0800
From: [email-masked] (John Martin Lotz)
Subject: Re:Bomb shelter Question was Acka: Score Report

> 
> > The tornado did not change any scores, as there was a bomb shelter, but
> > did it knock any buildings off the earth?  I don't know if all the
dangling
> > buildings were blessed or reattached before the tornado.
> 
> I believe only houses are affected, and all houses were blessed.
> Furthermore, due to the way I render the Tornado rule, it has no
> effect whatsoever if there is a Bomb Shelter, qv P 1587.
>  
Is a Bomb Shelter permanant.  If so, Tornados no longer have effect

Hmmmmmm.

Jammer
thinking furiously

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:22:38 -0800
From: [email-masked] (John Martin Lotz)
Subject: Re: Acka: Prayer

Malenkai wrote
> 
> [due to the fact that it looks like itw is about to go down for good,
> I have no choce but to hurry and post the last prayer I posted to appease
> the gods of weather.  Oh well, thats the breaks.  It still leads to a 
> treasure ;)]
> 
HMMMMM
Jammer
who is proably sounding like a herd
of contimplantive bees

(See "Inside Outsidedness) - 1/2/97 7:47

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:43:57 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: Spelling, and New Rules Up

I have just two Spelling Bee changes for the changes that
happened since P1540.

1. In rule 1241 (just created by proposal 1541), change "deterinmistic"
to "deterministic" in section 3.

2. In rule 901 change "relavent" to "relevant" (at the end, in the part added
by proposal 1572).

 - - - - - - - - 

In other business:

The second rule change in P1543 is invalid because R406 section b
does not contain the text shown.  (If it does change the rule, it
doesn't do the right thing, anyway, but isn't too destructive.)

I believe the spelling rule causes P1547 to amend the right rule, since
it is clearly referring to the rule defining the web-harfer's office.

The current rule set, through proposal 1575 and csr 114, including the
changes/notes above, is on the web page now.

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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:51:38 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Acka: RFC on fixing up some recent stuff

RFC: Christmas Rush Fixup

Rule 1554 has some problems; notably, it gives extra land to incoming
players in addition to the land their house is on, which is given by R839.
Due to this, I believe Strider owns 2 kaa of land, one of them with his
house on it.  It also seems to imply that the change in the land price
should be made randomly, but doesn't state this explicitly.  It also
doesn't take precedence over R839 on the issue of buying common land;
that rule says the Senate must still approve all deals to buy common land.

Rule 1564 is the wrong idea, IMHO.  Lestrade recognized that a Festival
was a poor name for something that happens when a bunch of proposals
fail due to quorum, but he failed to realize that the rules we have now
make it unlikely that consecutive proposals will fail due to Quorum.
(See the 5th paragraph of rule 207 and rule 201.)  A better proposal
(vs. P1564) would have been to just delete the section about proposals
failing by Quorum from the Festival rule.  Stray rules like 1564 are
a lot of what is confusing about our rule set and what makes it so big;
we are better off without it.

Rule 207 is so long now that I think it would look better with some
numbers and names for the various sections.  If nobody objects, I'll
make a clean-up proposal which does this, fixes up 1554 as above, and
repeals 1564.

/dev/joe

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