Subject: Ackanomic Digest V1 #391
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Ackanomic Digest      Tuesday, December 10 1996      Volume 01 : Number 391

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:31:19 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka : Dueling with Ghost

I am anouncing a game of Ghost which to be refereed by Thinman.
 The players are Guy Fawkes and Mohammed who will be playing the game to
as part of their Duel

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:48:26 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Duel - or is it ?

I'm holding back on this anouncement just to clarify a small point. 
Is this or isn't this a Duel.  Malenkai is reffereing to this as a Duel,
but I did not see any part of the required procedure for a Duel take
place.
There was no public Challenge by snowgod's second, nor was there a public
reply. This kind of unregulated and unmediated is not only irresponsible,
it is illegal.
Currently, the only posibly illegal action I see in this message is
Malenkai's anouncement of the start of a Duel (unless it can demonstrated
that it is legal).
I will be perfectly content to anounce a _game_ of Ghost. But I really
think we need to know the context here.
Niccolo Flychuck
GamesMasters have feelings too

(Presidential candidate Niccolo Flychuck takes all eir Offices seriously)

 On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Malenkai wrote:

> Phil Ackley wrote:
> 
> > Would Malenkai care to referee the duel?
> 
> Sure.
> 
> Construe this as an official message to the GamesMaster indicating
> the start of a game of Ghost:
> 
> Players
> -------
> Robert Sevin
> snowgod
> 
> Referee
> -------
> Malenkai
> 
> Once the GamesMaster acks this message, I shall start the game.  (Perhaps
> this procedure can be streamlined a little better).
> 
> As a political officer, I announce the start of this Duel.  May the
> Harfiest player win!
> 
> Malenkai
> referee
> 

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:55:02 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Re: Acka: Duel - or is it ? 

>There was no public Challenge by snowgod's second, nor was there a public
>reply. This kind of unregulated and unmediated is not only irresponsible,
>it is illegal.

I disagree.  My second, Mr. Habeous Corpus, issued a challange to Robert
Sevin on Sun, December 8, 1996 at 6:18  PM EST.  It was publically replied
to be Robert Sevin's Second, Mr. Calvin N Hobbes onSun, December 8, 1996 at
6:44 CST.  Both messages are attached to this one.

>Sender: [email-masked]
>Precedence: bulk
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>From: [email-masked]
>To: [email-masked]
>Subject: Acka: Duel
>X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,9-10,14-18
>Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:18:42 EST
>
>Robert Sevin;  it is my duty to inform you that you are hereby formally
>challenged to a duel.  This duel is being initiated by snowgod,  with
>myself acting as second.
>
>The reason for this duel is self evident:  your careless disregard for
>game custom and the incessant reference to a Silly Vacation Hat you know
>quite well you cannot possibly be wearing.  It is also my duty to request
>that you choose a contest from the Duel Rule or G&C page that would be
>suitable for a duel.  Please have your second contact me so that we may
>set the conditions and stakes of the contest.
>
>snowgod would also offer assurances that if you accept this duel,
>regardless of its outcome,  no CFCJ shall be called by either em or
>myself concerning your flagrant behavior towards a piece of now
>non-existent headwear.
>
>We await your pleasure.
>
>Habeous Corpus

>Sender: [email-masked]
>Precedence: bulk
>Reply-To: [email-masked]
>Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:44:53 -0600 (CST)
>X-Sender: [email-masked]
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>To: [email-masked]
>From: T Joffrain <[email-masked]>
>Subject: Re: Acka: Duel
>
>>Robert Sevin;  it is my duty to inform you that you are hereby formally
>>challenged to a duel.  This duel is being initiated by snowgod,  with
>>myself acting as second.
>
>Snowgod, Habeous Corpus
>
>As second to Robert Sevin, our Prima Oldest Player, First President, Creator
>of Harf, decorated of the Blue Cross, et cetera, et cetera, I, Calvin N
>Hobbes, Second Oldest Player, First Financier, member of FUN, of the Church
>of the Markovian Dream,  Ackaphysicist, et cetera, et cetera, do give you
>note that your most disrespectful challenge is accepted.
>
>In this, our great duel yet, two sides will faces off and burn before us one
>long trail of fire that will transcend the Concepts behind them. For it will
>decide if these Dark Forces from a Darker Sky of conformism will prevail.
>This Duel is but a symptom of the rampant trend toward freezing free
>thought, of negating and denying the immeasurable possibilities of the
>word... "maybe".
>
>And so it is that to fight these Dark Forces, Robert Sevin of the Forces of
>Light, in his great wisdom has chosen the duel to be a game of Ghost. Be
>warned!
>
>May the Ghosts of Acka have Mercy on you!
>
>Calvin N Hobbes who may, or may not be bonkers (but having fun)
>Second to Robert Sevin who may, or may not be wearing a silly vacation hat.

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:02:40 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Duel - or is it ? - So it is!

OK,
My apologies to all concerned for my suspicions. The Duel is indeed
Kosher.

I am anouncing the begining of a game of Ghost beween snowgod and Robert
Sevin, to be refereed by Malenkai.
the game is the chosen contest in a Duel between snowgod and Robert Sevin.

Niccolo Flychuck
GaemsMaster

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:00:06 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Duel - or is it ?

Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> I'm holding back on this anouncement just to clarify a small point.
> Is this or isn't this a Duel.  Malenkai is reffereing to this as a Duel,
> but I did not see any part of the required procedure for a Duel take
> place.
> There was no public Challenge by snowgod's second, nor was there a public
> reply. This kind of unregulated and unmediated is not only irresponsible,
> it is illegal.

Both of these statements are false.

> Currently, the only posibly illegal action I see in this message is
> Malenkai's anouncement of the start of a Duel (unless it can demonstrated
> that it is legal).

This statement is false, and I am slightly offended at the strength of
the language in light of its falseness.  Perhaps the language of HC or
CnH did not fit the Duel protocol.  I cannot adjudicate that, but I did
construe HCs message as a challenge, and CnH's message as an acceptance.

I should think an apology to HC, CnH, and myself would be appropriate,
unless you would like to participate in a duel as well :)

- ----------------------
Habeous Corpus wrote on Dec 8th:

Robert Sevin;  it is my duty to inform you that you are hereby formally
challenged to a duel.  This duel is being initiated by snowgod,  with
myself acting as second.

The reason for this duel is self evident:  your careless disregard for
game custom and the incessant reference to a Silly Vacation Hat you know
quite well you cannot possibly be wearing.  It is also my duty to request
that you choose a contest from the Duel Rule or G&C page that would be
suitable for a duel.  Please have your second contact me so that we may
set the conditions and stakes of the contest.

snowgod would also offer assurances that if you accept this duel,
regardless of its outcome,  no CFCJ shall be called by either em or
myself concerning your flagrant behavior towards a piece of now
non-existent headwear.

We await your pleasure.

Habeous Corpus
- ------------------------------------------------------------
Calvin N Hobbes wrote on Dec 8th:

>Robert Sevin;  it is my duty to inform you that you are hereby formally
>challenged to a duel.  This duel is being initiated by snowgod,  with
>myself acting as second.

Snowgod, Habeous Corpus

As second to Robert Sevin, our Prima Oldest Player, First President, Creator
of Harf, decorated of the Blue Cross, et cetera, et cetera, I, Calvin N
Hobbes, Second Oldest Player, First Financier, member of FUN, of the Church
of the Markovian Dream,  Ackaphysicist, et cetera, et cetera, do give you
note that your most disrespectful challenge is accepted.

In this, our great duel yet, two sides will faces off and burn before us one
long trail of fire that will transcend the Concepts behind them. For it will
decide if these Dark Forces from a Darker Sky of conformism will prevail.
This Duel is but a symptom of the rampant trend toward freezing free
thought, of negating and denying the immeasurable possibilities of the
word... "maybe".

And so it is that to fight these Dark Forces, Robert Sevin of the Forces of
Light, in his great wisdom has chosen the duel to be a game of Ghost. Be 
warned!

May the Ghosts of Acka have Mercy on you!

Calvin N Hobbes who may, or may not be bonkers (but having fun)
Second to Robert Sevin who may, or may not be wearing a silly vacation hat.

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 01:07:12 -0600 (CST)
From: T Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Duel - or is it ? 

>This statement is false, and I am slightly offended at the strength of
>the language in light of its falseness.  Perhaps the language of HC or
>CnH did not fit the Duel protocol.  I cannot adjudicate that, but I did
>construe HCs message as a challenge, and CnH's message as an acceptance.

I checked the rules before posting. It requires only that certain info be
given, nothing on format. Hence my approach.

This means PPV isn't publicized enough.
I need bolder than bold characters...   :)

CnH

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:04:09 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Duel/Ghost Start

Robert Sevin has been chosen to play first in the Ghost Duel
with snowgod.  There is currently no Ghost word.

Malenkai
referee, who sees an amendment to streamline this process

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:13:08 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 1539 

>snowgod, as acting CSR officer, could you throw the following amendment
>on the end of R 423?  You have privs of F.O.s on vacation:
>
>{{renumber this rule to 450.}}

I do not have a problem with doing this, but I feel uneasy about performing
the action before the results of P1539 are publically knowable.  It would
be bad to renumber the R423 and then have 1539 fail.  Instead, I will wait
until the results are publically knowable, and then issue a CSR changing
both of the rule numbers.  If I am no longer president when that happens, I
am sure the next one could do the same thing.

Is that an okay solution for you?

snowgod

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:19:16 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Duel - or is it ?

On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Malenkai wrote:

> 
> Both of these statements are false.
Snowgod sent me copies of the relevant message. I believe my later post
issues a correction.
> 
> > Currently, the only posibly illegal action Isee in this message is
> > Malenkai's anouncement of the start of a Duel (unless it can demonstrated
> > that it is legal).
> 
> This statement is false, and I am slightly offended at the strength of
> the language in light of its falseness.  Perhaps the language of HC or
> CnH did not fit the Duel protocol.  I cannot adjudicate that, but I did
> construe HCs message as a challenge, and CnH's message as an acceptance.

Please note the words '_possibly_' , '_unless_', that allow my assertion
to assert the possibility of its own inaccuracy. Were such words absent,
I'd be inclined to agree with you on your assesment of the language.

As for protocol. As you have observed, it is not strict, and the messages,
as posted are sufficiemt, as you observed.

Niccolo Flychuck

 > 
> I should think an apology to HC, CnH, and myself would be appropriate,
> unless you would like to participate in a duel as well :)
> 
> ----------------------
> Habeous Corpus wrote on Dec 8th:
> 
> Robert Sevin;  it is my duty to inform you that you are hereby formally
> challenged to a duel.  This duel is being initiated by snowgod,  with
> myself acting as second.
> 
> The reason for this duel is self evident:  your careless disregard for
> game custom and the incessant reference to a Silly Vacation Hat you know
> quite well you cannot possibly be wearing.  It is also my duty to request
> that you choosea contest from the Duel Rule or G&C page that would be
> suitable for a duel.  Please have your second contact me so that we may
> set the conditions and stakes of the contest.
> 
> snowgod would also offer assurances that if you accept this duel,
> regardless of its outcome,  no CFCJ shall be called by either em or
> myself concerning your flagrant behavior towards a piece of now
> non-existent headwear.
> 
> We await your pleasure.
> 
> Habeous Corpus
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Calvin N Hobbes wrote on Dec 8th:
> 
> >Robert Sevin;  it is my duty to inform you that you are hereby formally
> >challenged to a duel.  This duel is being initiated by snowgod,  with
> >myself acting as second.
> 
> Snowgod, Habeous Corpus
> 
> As second to Robert Sevin, our Prima Oldest Player, First President, Creator
> of Harf, decorated of the Blue Cross, et cetera, et cetera, I, Calvin N
> Hobbes, Second Oldest Player, First Financier, member of FUN, of the Church
> of the Markovian Dream,  Ackaphysicist, etcetera, et cetera, do give you
> note that your most disrespectful challenge is accepted.
> 
> In this, our great duel yet, two sides will faces off and burn before us one
> long trail of fire that will transcend the Concepts behind them. For it will
> decideif these Dark Forces from a Darker Sky of conformism will prevail.
> This Duel is but a symptom of the rampant trend toward freezing free
> thought, of negating and denying the immeasurable possibilities of the
> word... "maybe".
> 
> And so it is that to fight these Dark Forces, Robert Sevin of the Forces of
> Light, in his great wisdom has chosen the duel to be a game of Ghost. Be 
> warned!
> 
> May the Ghosts of Acka have Mercy on you!
> 
> Calvin N Hobbes who may, or may not be bonkers (but having fun)
> Secondto Robert Sevin who may, or may not be wearing a silly vacation hat.
> 

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:16:08 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 1539

Phil Ackley wrote:
> 
> >snowgod, as acting CSR officer, could you throw the following amendment
> >on the end of R 423?  You have privs of F.O.s on vacation:
> >
> >{{renumber this rule to 450.}}
> 
> I do not have a problem with doing this, but I feel uneasy about performing
> the action before the results of P1539 are publically knowable.  It would
> be bad to renumber the R423 and then have 1539 fail.  Instead, I will wait
> until the results are publically knowable, and then issue a CSR changing
> both of the rule numbers.  If I am no longer president when that happens, I
> am sure the next one could do the same thing.
> 
> Is that an okay solution for you?

So, we need that private/public e-mail proposal to pass, inasmuch as this
is a public response to a private message.  I really don't think it
matters that much, at least it doesn't to me.  Renumbering 423 to 450 is 
a good thing in its own right, even if P 1539 fails.

The idea with doing it before was to get it out of the way (since CSRs
take 3 days, and proposals take 7), before P 1539 would be applied.  Now
it looks like you will get 423.1, or a failed rule change, either of
which can be fixed by CSR.

Its just cleaner the way I thought to do it, but it is your call.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:04:06 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: New Treasure 

I am creating a treasure thaqt consists of the Secret Decoder Ring, and
burying it.

The map to the treasure reads in full:

496E206F72646572746F2066696E642074686520536563726574204465636F6465722052696E
672C796F75206D75737420706F73742061206D65737361676520636F6E7461696E696E672074
68652073696E676C6520776F72642022487562657274222077697468206E6F206578706C696E
6174696F6E20617320746F20796F757220616374696F6E73206F6E6365206576657279206461
7920666F7220746872656520636F6E736563757469766520646179732E202041667465722074
686520746869726420636F6E736563757469766520706F7374696E672C207468652053656372
6574204465636F6465722052696E672077696C6C20626520666F756E642E

snowgod

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:04:04 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: Secret Decoder Ring 

I am creating a Trinket known as the Secret Decoder Ring with a value of
A$20.  This nifty little device is sure to help it's owner decode any
message that he stumbles across.  And when it is not being used for
decoding, it makes it's own look very cosmopolitan indeed.

snowgod

snowgod -20, misc expense

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:41:17 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: Party Hall Party Poetry 

It is with my deepest regret to bring this depressing, and awfully written
8-line poem in accordance with R939.

I used to know, at least I thought, but now I don't, I fear.
A hat I am wearing? A lamb I am sharing?
The rules seem so unclear!

What I once knew, I know no more, the rules change so fast,
A Magic Potato or a Tuba I'm bearing?
I knew these things in the past!

But I don't care, no I rejoice, in these paradigm shifts,
Ackanomic is so much fun, even as the ruleset drifts.

snowgod
Dreadful enough?

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:44:15 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Ackanomic: CSR 111 

[I have reconsidered my opinion on the Matter of CSR 111.  Since I am
ambigous on the change if P1539 fails and a proponet if it passes, and a
player requested it, it causes me no harm to submit it.  As usual, the CSR
fails if two or more players onject to it within the three day period]

CSR 111

Amend R423 by adding the following text to the end of the Rule:
{{renumber this rule to 450.}}

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:11:02 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: P1492 Passes 

Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 13 Players cast votes
12 YES votes - 2 NO votes - 1 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1492 - Sun 1 Dec 20:28 CST 1996
I'd like to buy a vowel, please
Malenkai (Randy Hall)

Malenkai gains 5 points:

YES Votes:
- ---------

Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan

/dev/joe                     Vulcan
Habeous Corpus
Calvin N Hobbes              FUN
Malenkai                     FUN
Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
snowgod                      (None Yet)
ThinMan                      Vulcan

Vulcan Unity Vote
(None Yet) Unity Vote
Mohammed
mr cwm                       (None Yet)

NO Votes:
- --------

breadbox
Airhead

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
Robert Sevin

Abstentions:
- -----------

Bascule
fnord

New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
- ----------------------------------
Jammer
Clairence
Swann

Text of Passed Proposal:
- -----------------------

     This is a Modest proposal.

     Amend R 1240 to replace all occurrances of:

     "The player whose post was considered then forfeits 10 A$ to the
     Treasury."

     with:

     "
     The player whose post was considered then forfeits the Magic
     Letter Premium to the Treasury. The Magic Letter Premium is based
     on the type of letter chosen, from the following schedule: Common
     vowels ('a', 'e', 'i', 'o') cost A$25, Common consonants ('d',
     'l', 'n', 'r', 's', 't') cost A$15, all other letters cost A$5.
     "

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:11:09 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: P1494 Fails 

Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 13 Players cast votes
6 YES votes - 4 NO votes - 3 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1494 - Sun 1 Dec 20:28 CST 1996
Amending R1109
Calvin N Hobbes (Thierry Joffrain)

Calvin N Hobbesloses 7 points:

YES Votes:
- ---------

Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan

Calvin N Hobbes              FUN
ThinMan                      Vulcan

Vulcan Unity Vote
Mohammed
mr cwm                       (None Yet)
breadbox

NO Votes:
- --------

Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
snowgod                      (None Yet)
Habeous Corpus
Malenkai                     FUN

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
Robert Sevin
/dev/joe                     Vulcan
Airhead

Abstentions:
- -----------

Bascule
fnord

New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
- ----------------------------------
Jammer
Clairence
Swann

Text of Passed Proposal:
- -----------------------
 NONE

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:11:07 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: P1493 passes 

Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 12 Players cast votes
8 YES votes - 2 NO votes - 3 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1493 - Sun 1 Dec 20:28 CST 1996
Fixing one loophole introduced by the Entity rewrite
Malenkai (Randy Hall)

Malenkai gains 5 points:

YES Votes:
- ---------

Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan

/dev/joe                     Vulcan
Calvin N Hobbes              FUN
Malenkai                     FUN
ThinMan                      Vulcan

Vulcan Unity Vote
Mohammed
mr cwm                       (None Yet)

NO Votes:
- --------

Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
snowgod                      (None Yet)

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
Robert Sevin
breadbox
Habeous Corpus

Abstentions:
- -----------

Bascule
fnord
Airhead

New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
- ----------------------------------
Jammer
Clairence
Swann

Text of Passed Proposal:
- -----------------------

      This is a Modest Proposal.

     Amend R 1243, "Chartreuse Goose", to insert ", non-mimsy" after
     the first occurrance of "nontradeable"

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:14:27 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: P1495 Fails 

Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 13 Players cast votes
5 YES votes - 6 NO votes - 2 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1495 - Sun Dec 1 CST 20:29 CST 1996
Heretics! Heretics Everywhere!
Calvin N Hobbes (Thierry Joffrain)

Calvin N Hobbesloses 7 points:

YES Votes:
- ---------

Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
snowgod                      (None Yet)
Habeous Corpus
Malenkai                     FUN
Calvin N Hobbes              FUN

NO Votes:
- --------

Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan

ThinMan                      Vulcan

Mohammed
mr cwm                       (None Yet)
breadbox
/dev/joe                     Vulcan

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
Robert Sevin
Airhead

Abstentions:
- -----------

Bascule
fnord

New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
- ----------------------------------
Jammer
Clairence
Swann

Text of Passed Proposal:
- -----------------------
 NONE

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:17:29 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: P1494 Revisited (Still Fails) 

Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 13 Players cast votes
6 YES votes - 4 NO votes - 3 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1494 - Sun 1 Dec 20:28 CST 1996
Amending R1109
Calvin N Hobbes (Thierry Joffrain)

Calvin N Hobbesloses 7 points:

YES Votes:
- ---------

Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan             +3

Calvin N Hobbes              FUN                +3
ThinMan                      Vulcan             +3

Mohammed                                        +3
mr cwm                       (None Yet)         +3
breadbox                                        +3

NO Votes:
- --------

Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
snowgod                      (None Yet)
Habeous Corpus
Malenkai                     FUN

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
Robert Sevin
/dev/joe                     Vulcan
Airhead

Abstentions:
- -----------

Bascule
fnord

New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
- ----------------------------------
Jammer
Clairence
Swann

Text of Passed Proposal:
- -----------------------
 NONE

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:20:56 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: P1496 Fails 

Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 12 Players cast votes
4 YES votes - 8 NO votes - 0 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1496 - Sun 1 Dec 20:28 CST 1996
Barracks As Temporary Lodgings
Calvin N Hobbes (Thierry Joffrain)

Calvin N Hobbes loses 7 points:

YES Votes:
- ---------

Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
snowgod                      (None Yet)
Malenkai                     FUN
Calvin N Hobbes              FUN

NO Votes:
- --------

Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan

Mohammed
mr cwm                       (None Yet)
breadbox
/dev/joe                     Vulcan
Habeous Corpus
Robert Sevin
ThinMan                      Vulcan

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
NONE

Abstentions:
- -----------

Bascule
fnord
Airhead

New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
- ----------------------------------
Jammer
Clairence
Swann

Text of Passed Proposal:
- -----------------------
 NONE

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:26:03 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: P1497 Fails 

Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 13 Players cast votes
6 YES votes - 6 NO votes - 1 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1497 - Sun 1 Dec 20:29 CST 1996
Undead Space Reclamation
Calvin N Hobbes (Thierry Joffrain)

Calvin N Hobbes loses 7 points:

YES Votes:
- ---------

Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
snowgod                      (None Yet)
Malenkai                     FUN
Calvin N Hobbes              FUN
Mohammed
ThinMan                      Vulcan

NO Votes:
- --------

Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan

mr cwm                       (None Yet)
breadbox
/dev/joe                     Vulcan
Habeous Corpus
Robert Sevin

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
Airhead

Abstentions:
- -----------

Bascule
fnord

New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
- ----------------------------------
Jammer
Clairence
Swann

Text of Passed Proposal:
- -----------------------
 NONE

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:26:06 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: P1498 Passes 

Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 13 Players cast votes
6 YES votes - 6 NO votes - 1 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1498 - Sun 1 Dec 20:30 CST 1996
Saving the President's Breath (aka Unanimity is Both Lovely and Special)
Guy Fawkes (Robert Shimmin)

Guy Fawkes gains 5 points:

YES Votes:
- ---------

Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
snowgod                      (None Yet)
Calvin N Hobbes              FUN
Mohammed
ThinMan                      Vulcan
Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan

mr cwm                       (None Yet)
breadbox
/dev/joe                     Vulcan
(None Yet) Unity Vote
Vulcan Unity Vote

NO Votes:
- --------

Malenkai                     FUN
Robert Sevin

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
Airhead
Habeous Corpus

Abstentions:
- -----------

Bascule
fnord

New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
- ----------------------------------
Jammer
Clairence
Swann

Text of Passed Proposal:
- -----------------------
     This is a Modest Proposal

     Replace the first instance of "When a proposal passes" in Rule
     1457 with "When a non-modest proposal passes".

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:30:31 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Re: Acka: P1498 Passes 

>Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 13 Players cast votes
>6 YES votes - 6 NO votes - 1 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Oops, sory.  My mistake.  This should read:
11 YES votes - 2 NO votes - 2 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

>Proposal 1498 - Sun 1 Dec 20:30 CST 1996
>Saving the President's Breath (aka Unanimity is Both Lovely and Special)
>Guy Fawkes (Robert Shimmin)
>
>Guy Fawkes gains 5 points:
>
>YES Votes:
>---------
>
>Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)
>snowgod                      (None Yet)
>Calvin N Hobbes              FUN
>Mohammed
>ThinMan                      Vulcan
>Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan
>
>mr cwm                       (None Yet)
>breadbox
>/dev/joe                     Vulcan
>(None Yet) Unity Vote
>Vulcan Unity Vote
>
>NO Votes:
>--------
>
>Malenkai                     FUN
>Robert Sevin
>
>PRESENT Votes:
>-------------
>Airhead
>Habeous Corpus
>
>Abstentions:
>-----------
>
>Bascule
>fnord
>
>New Players Who Are Not Yet Active:
>----------------------------------
>Jammer
>Clairence
>Swann
>
>Text of Passed Proposal:
>-----------------------
>     This is a Modest Proposal
>
>     Replace the first instance of "When a proposal passes" in Rule
>     1457 with "When a non-modest proposal passes".

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:32:09 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: More Tabulating 

I'll finish up the tabulating tommorow.  I really gotta get to bed now...
Gotta be to work in 7 and a half hours. That miserable little poem took
longer to write than I thought it would :)

snowgod
I oughta be impeached as tabulator, sorry :)

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:41:59 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: acka: Duels, Clarifications and apologies

This constitutes a second public apology to anyone I had mistakenly named
as engaged in illegal action. 
I have made an error that had the potential to tarnish names with my
unfounded suppositions of misconduct.
I have recognized that error publically once, and taken appropriate
actions.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 03:10:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Raiter <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: New Treasure

> I am creating a treasure that consists of the Secret Decoder Ring, and
> burying it.

snowgod's treasure map contains a couple of typos, btw. Here is the
corrected version:

496E206F7264657220746F2066696E642074686520536563726574204465636F646572205269
6E672C20796F75206D75737420706F73742061206D65737361676520636F6E7461696E696E67
207468652073696E676C6520776F72642022487562657274222077697468206E6F206578706C
616E6174696F6E20617320746F20796F757220616374696F6E73206F6E636520657665727920
64617920666F7220746872656520636F6E736563757469766520646179732E20204166746572
2074686520746869726420636F6E736563757469766520706F7374696E672C20746865205365
63726574204465636F6465722052696E672077696C6C20626520666F756E642E

b

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:42:15 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: Otzma Day 

And the Otzma has indeed started on Dec. 9 10:34 GMT

Niccolo Flychuck
RuneMaker

On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Uri Bruck wrote:

> I am hereby anouncing that three days from now another Otzma Day will
> begin.
> 
> 
> Niccolo Flychuck
> RuneMaker
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:04:06 +0200 (EET)
From: Uri Bruck <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka : New player (mentor Thinman)

We have a new player in Ackanomic
Eir name is DAvid Thomas Fisher
e-mail [email-masked]
e has chosen the Ackanomic name 23 Skidoo

Eir reply to the poll question:
I heard of Ackanomic via the web, actually after I stumbled on the
Internomic webpage.

Since al volunteers mantors are currently assigned,  I have randomally
selected Thinman to be mentor, pending eir acknowledgment.

Niccolo Flychuck

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:27:25 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: A Duel!

Mohammed wrote:

>Guy Fawkes:
>> Also, I transfer 10 A$ to ThinMan for performing this service.
>> Guy Fawkes -10, misc
>> ThinMan +10, misc
>
>	Hah!  Shameless.  It's a good thing ThinMan is incorruptibly 
>above such nonsense, or I'd have to accuse you of bribery most vile.

Thank you for your vote of confidence.  I assure everyone that I will
referee this duel with the utmost neutrality and fairness.  That Guy
Fawkes gets the first turn was established randomly by use of a two-
sided die of the type worth slightly less than half a C*ke, and was
not in any way influenced by the above referenced transaction.  Not
that I think it gives him any advantage anyway.

I do, nevertheless, thank Guy for the kind donation.

ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:34:05 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: FW: Acka: (Gamemaster) Starting a game of Ghost

The Gamesmaster has acknowledged the game of ghost between Guy Fawkes
and Mohammed.  Guy Fawkes has three days to post his move.

ThinMan
Referee

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 07:32:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Guy Fawkes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Guy v. Mo duel

To begin our Duel, I name the letter 'y'.

The Ghost word is now: y

Guy Fawkes

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:21:46 -0600
From: "Eric L. Freeman" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: P1493 passes

Phil Ackley wrote:
> Subject: Acka: P1493 passes
>
> Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 12 Players cast votes
> 8 YES votes - 2 NO votes - 3 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS
> 
> Proposal 1493 - Sun 1 Dec 20:28 CST 1996
> Fixing one loophole introduced by the Entity rewrite
> Malenkai (Randy Hall)
> 
> etc., etc.

The subject line says "passes" but the message says "fails."
Hunh?

AirHead

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:36:07 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka:  Hubert

Hubert

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:53:16 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: FW: Acka : New player (mentor Thinman)

Niccolo Flychuck wrote:

>Since al volunteers mantors are currently assigned,  I have randomally
>selected Thinman to be mentor, pending eir acknowledgment.
>
>I acknowledge and accept.
>
>ThinMan

P.S. Sorry, Niccolo, for sending this twice to you, but I found out
only later that my acceptance of this appointment must be public.  TM
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:14:35 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: P1493 passes

AirHead wrote:

>Phil Ackley wrote:
>> Subject: Acka: P1493 passes
>>
>> Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 12 Players cast votes
>> 8 YES votes - 2 NO votes - 3 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS
>> 
>> Proposal 1493 - Sun 1 Dec 20:28 CST 1996
>> Fixing one loophole introduced by the Entity rewrite
>> Malenkai (Randy Hall)
>> 
>> etc., etc.
>
>The subject line says "passes" but the message says "fails."
>Hunh?

You must forgive snowgod.  He's overworked and underpaid, and he
has periodic episodes of dysfunctional email syndrome.  :-)

The subject line is correct: the proposal passed.

ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:18:35 -0500
From: "Bollinger, John C." <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Acka: Guy v. Mo duel

In the Guy Fawkes vs Mohammed duel,

the ghost word is: y

and it is Mohammed's turn.

ThinMan
>

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:22:46 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Re: Acka: P1493 passes 

>Phil Ackley wrote:
>> Subject: Acka: P1493 passes
>>
>> Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 12 Players cast votes
>> 8 YES votes - 2 NO votes - 3 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS
>>
>> Proposal 1493 - Sun 1 Dec 20:28 CST 1996
>> Fixing one loophole introduced by the Entity rewrite
>> Malenkai (Randy Hall)
>>
>> etc., etc.
>
>The subject line says "passes" but the message says "fails."
>Hunh?
>
>AirHead

Sloppy cut and paste job... Blame it on your overworked, overschooled,
underslept tabulator :)

snowgod

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:33:52 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Phil Ackley)
Subject: Acka: Evil Twin Syndrome 

>>The subject line says "passes" but the message says "fails."
>>Hunh?
>
>You must forgive snowgod.  He's overworked and underpaid, and he
>has periodic episodes of dysfunctional email syndrome.  :-)

This would seem to imply that My Evil Twin, ThinMan, is underworked,
overpaid, and more often than not has all his ducks in a line.  Oh, the
horror of it all :)

snowgod
evil twin to the Great ThinMan

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:36:06 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka : New player (mentor Thinman)

Uri Bruck wrote:
 
> We have a new player in Ackanomic
> Eir name is DAvid Thomas Fisher
> e-mail [email-masked]
> e has chosen the Ackanomic name 23 Skidoo

His starting cash is A$ 582.  If anyone is interested,
account balances currenly sum to a little over A$12,200.

Welcome to the game!  You may e-mail your mentor ThinMan
([email-masked]) if you have any questions.

Malenkai
Financier

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:42:41 -0500
From: [email-masked] (Steven A. Swiniarski)
Subject: Re: Acka: P1498 Passes

>
>>Quorum achieved: 15 Eligible voters - 13 Players cast votes
>>6 YES votes - 6 NO votes - 1 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS
>
>Oops, sory.  My mistake.  This should read:
>11 YES votes - 2 NO votes - 2 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

I'm a newbie, but why does this line allways say a proposal fails?
Wasnt eleven Votes enough?

Swann

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:05:50 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Praetor

I am resigning as Preator.  I feel I have accumulated many more
offices than necessary for one person.  I still feel it is cool
office and could be fun if CFJs pick up again.

I now announce the beginning of the nomination period for the office
of Praetor.  If you have met the qualification conditions and want
to run for this office, e-mail me.  The office is regulated by R 1274 
(I think).

Sorry for the inconvienence.

Malenkai

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:19:56 -0600
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: [none]

Hubert

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:20:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Guy Fawkes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: 

Hubert

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:38:11 -0600 (CST)
From: Guy Fawkes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Proposal 1540

Proposal 1540 -- Tue 10 Dec 12:34 CST 1996
Frankenstein
Swann (Steven Swiniarski)

This is a Proposal to create two Rules:

Text of a Rule entitled "The Mad Scientist" (text delimited by ~'s):

~
     There is an Office of Mad Scientist which has one seat.  The holder 
     of the Office has the title of Scientist, but e is not a member of 
     the Ackanomic Research Guild.  This Office cannot be filled by any 
     other Scientist, and when a Player takes the seat of this Office e 
     must say publicly; "They laughed at me back at the Academy, the 
     fools! Bwahahaha!"  Or words to that general effect.

     This Office can only be filled or transferred as follows:  If the 
     seat is vacant, it is filled by the last Player to take possession 
     of any Frankenstein Monster.  If no such player exists, the seat 
     shall be filled by Election for Office.

     The Mad Scientist's duty is to create Blueprints for, and build,
     Frankenstein Monsters.  Being an outcast from the Scientific
     community, e has none of the other usual privileges associated with
     being a Scientist, this takes precedence over rules that would
     grant em duties and privileges beyond those assigned em in this
     Rule.

     The Mad Scientist shall receive A$15 for each Frankenstein Monster 
     e creates.

     Any official communication by the Mad Scientist, in eir capacity as 
     Mad Scientist, shall be made in a bad Transylvanian accent and 
     contain at least one exclamation point.

~

Text of a Rule entitled "The Frankenstein Monster(s)" (text delimited by ~'s):

~
     There is a class of entities known as Frankenstein Monsters.  Each 
     Frankenstein Monster is unique, and has its own name. Each
     Frankenstein Monster has its own unique Blueprint, which can only
     be crated as specified in this Rule.  Only the Mad Scientist can
     construct anything from a Blueprint created by this Rule, an 
     attempt by any(one)thing else to build something from a Blueprint
     for a Frankenstein Monster is doomed to dismal failure. This rule
     takes precedence over the Rules generally governing Blueprints.

     A Blueprint for a Frankenstein Monster is not a Blueprint until its
     construction is completed by the Mad Scientist.  Until then it is a
     Blueprint-under-construction.

     If no Blueprint for a Frankenstein Monster is currently under 
     construction, and no Frankenstein Monster is being built from a
     Blueprint, the Mad Scientist shall begin construction of a
     Blueprint for a Frankenstein Monster by making a public
     announcement, in the proper accent, as follows:

     "I am building a monster and its name is <name>!" (where <name> 
     throughout this Rule refers to a name picked for the Monster by the 
     Mad Scientist that is not the same as that of any other Entity, or 
     any prior Monster.)

     Thereafter, the construction of a Blueprint for a Frankenstein
     Monster named <name> is initiated.  The Blueprint is constructed by
     the Mad Scientist attaching valid Frankenstein Parts to it.
     However, e may only attach such Frankenstein Parts as are delivered
     to em.

     Any Player (including the Mad Scientist) has the option of digging 
     up and delivering a Frankenstein Part to the Mad Scientist, 
     provided that Player has not already done so since the prior 
     Thursday.

     A Frankenstein Part is dug up in the following manner:
       i) A complete sentence of no more than thirty words is copied
          from either some current Rule, some past version of a Rule, 
          or the text of a Blueprint for something other than a
          Frankenstein Monster. The sentence is only valid if it has
          never been used before to create a Frankenstein Part (even a
          rejected one); a body can only be dug up once.
      ii) A single noun is selected from this sentence.
     iii) All instances of the selected noun is replaced by <name> (in 
          whatever grammatical form is appropriate.)
      iv) The modified sentence, if it fulfills all the above 
          conditions, is a valid Frankenstein Part.

     The Mad Scientist must attach all parts to the
     Blueprint-under-construction, in the order delivered.  If any Part
     is in conflict with a prior attached Part, (i.e. the two Parts
     would give the Monster mutually-exclusive attributes, (one says
     "the monster is blue," the other "the monster cannot be blue.") or
     would lead to a paradoxical or self-contradictory Blueprint) the
     new Part is rejected, withers, and is discarded.

     The Mad Scientist shall keep secret the text of the
     Blueprint-under-construction (it is not yet a Blueprint), not
     revealing anything of its nature or contents, until one of the
     following conditions is true:

       v) Its construction is such that any new Parts would be rejected.
      vi) It is over 1000 words long.
     vii) It consists of more than 25 complete sentences.

     Once this happens the Mad Scientist shall publicly announce;

     "I have assembled the Blueprint for <name>!"

     E shall then post the text of the Blueprint-under-construction.  At
     this point the Blueprint is constructed, (and is a Blueprint) and
     no more Parts may ever be added to it. The Mad Scientist must
     immediately, after this announcement, begin building the
     Frankenstein Monster subject to the general limitations placed upon
     Scientists working from Blueprints.

     Once the Frankenstein Monster <name> is built, the following 
     happens, (these provisions take precidence over the rules governing 
     the fate of things built from Blueprints):

     viii) The Mad Scientist shall exclaim, "It's alive! <name> IS
           ALIVE!"
       ix) The <name> Monster is awarded to the last Player other than
           the Mad Scientist to have dug up and delivered a Part that
           was successfully attached (i.e. not rejected) to the Monster.
           This Player then owns the <name> Monster.
        x) If this Player also submitted the last Part in the case where
           any additional Parts would have been rejected, that Player 
           shall also win the current cycle, be awarded the honorary
           title of Angry Villager, and be awarded a Silver Pitchfork (a
           non-unique ownable entity).
       xi) The Blueprint is hidden away and may never, ever be used
           again to create another Monster.  If the <name> Monster ever
           ceases to exist, its Blueprint instantly crumbles into
           useless dust.

~

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