Subject: Ackanomic Digest V1 #331
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Ackanomic Digest       Monday, November 4 1996       Volume 01 : Number 331

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:47:53 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph W. DeVincentis" <devjoe>
Subject: Re: acka: Inventorness

snowgod wrote:
> In the interests of fairness to all players I am stepping down from the
> office of Inventor. 

All lonely blueprints are destroyed.

By my records, these are the blueprints for the EP Vending Machine Add-on
and the Propeller Beanie.

/dev/joe
Not really in charge of this.

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:13:38 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Acting Tabulator)
Subject: Acka: P1378 Passes 

Quorum achieved on P1378: 16 Eligible voters - 12 Players cast votes
7 YES votes - 4 NO votes - 2 PRESENT votes - Proposal PASSES
P1378 was Modest.

Proposal 1378 - Sat 26 Oct 15:10 CDT 1996
Cat Fight
Niccolo Flychuck

Niccolo Flychuck gains 5 points:                55 -> 60

YES Votes:
- ---------
Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)          = 46
ThinMan                      Vulcan              = -3
/dev/joe                     Vulcan              = 3
Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan              = 60
snowgod                      (None Yet)          = 7
breadbox                                         = 12
fnord                                            = 15

NO Votes:
- --------
Mohammed                                         = 3
Malenkai                     FUN                 = 37
Habeous Corpus                                   = 14

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
IdiotBoy                                         = 0
mr cwm                       (None Yet)          = 6

Abstentions:
- -----------
Robert Sevin
Calvin N Hobbes
Brinjal

Players On Vacation Who Didn't Vote:
- -----------------------------------
Bascule

Text of Passes Proposal:
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     This is a Modest Proposal

     Append the following text after the first sentence of section 3 or
     R985.9:
     "
     A CopyCat can Capture another CopyCat only by using the move
     described in section 2 of this rule
     "

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:13:42 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Acting Tabulator)
Subject: Acka: P1379 Fails 

Quorum achieved on P1379: 16 Eligible voters - 12 Players cast votes
6 YES votes - 5 NO votes - 2 PRESENT votes - Proposal FAILS

Proposal 1379 - Sat 26 Oct 15:11 CDT 1996
Patron Saints
Guy Fawkes (Robert Shimmin)

Guy Fawkes losesc 10 points:                     46 -> 36

YES Votes:
- ---------
Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)          = 36
snowgod                      (None Yet)          = 7
breadbox                                         = 12
Malenkai                     FUN                 = 37
Habeous Corpus                                   = 14
Mohammed                                         = 3

NO Votes:
- --------
ThinMan                      Vulcan             -3 -> 0
/dev/joe                     Vulcan              3 -> 6
Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan             60 -> 63
fnord                                           15 -> 18
Vulcan Unity Vote

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
IdiotBoy                                         = 0
mr cwm                       (None Yet)          = 6

Abstentions:
- -----------
Robert Sevin
Calvin N Hobbes
Brinjal

Players On Vacation Who Didn't Vote:
- -----------------------------------
Bascule

Text of Passes Proposal:
- -----------------------
NONE

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:13:47 -0900
From: [email-masked] (Acting Tabulator)
Subject: Acka: P1380 Passes 

Quorum achieved on P1300: 16 Eligible voters - 12 Players cast votes
12 YES votes - 0 NO votes - 2 PRESENT votes - Proposal PASSES
P1380 was Modest.

Proposal 1380 - Sat 26 Oct 15:12 CDT 1996
Gee Wally, That's a Lot of Different Places to Check (aka LESS WORK FOR
FO'S)
Guy Fawkes (Robert Shimmin)

Guy Fawkes gains 5 points:                     36 -> 41

YES Votes:
- ---------
Guy Fawkes                   (None Yet)          = 41
snowgod                      (None Yet)          = 7
Malenkai                     FUN                 = 37
Habeous Corpus                                   = 14
Mohammed                                         = 3
mr cwm                       (None Yet)          = 6
ThinMan                      Vulcan              = 0
/dev/joe                     Vulcan              = 6
Niccolo Flychuck             Vulcan              = 63
fnord                                            = 18
Vulcan Unity Vote
(None Yet) Unity Vote

NO Votes:
- --------
NONE

PRESENT Votes:
- -------------
IdiotBoy                                         = 0
breadbox                                         = 12

Abstentions:
- -----------
Robert Sevin
Calvin N Hobbes
Brinjal

Players On Vacation Who Didn't Vote:
- -----------------------------------
Bascule

Text of Passes Proposal:
- -----------------------

     This is a Modest Proposal.

     Perform the following actions in the order in which they appear.

     Create a new rule entitled "Telepathy, Telekinesis, and Side
     Effecs" containing text identical to that portion of Rule 1329
     that begins with "When a player's score is a prime number..." and
     continues to the end of the rule.

     ----

     Append the following to the end of Rule 1380:

     {{Renumber Rule 1380 to 1330. Calvin N Hobbes shall be listed as
     the originator of this rule in the official copy of the official
     rules. This takes precedence over any other mutable rule's
     crediting convention.}}

     ----
     Amend the second paragraph of Rule 1330 to read:

     Any player that correctly publically reports that her stars are
     aligned when put in the Ackanomic Afterlife will gain the ability
     to use telepathy. If this is not the first occurrence of this, and
     the previous time was at least one month before, then the player
     also gains the use of Telekinesis.

     ----

     Delete the text "Title: Telepathy, Telekinesis, and Side Effects"
     and all text that follows from Rule 1329.

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:18:11 -0900 (AKST)
From: Phil Ackley <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: acka: Inventorness

On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Joseph W. DeVincentis wrote:

> snowgod wrote:
> > In the interests of fairness to all players I am stepping down from the
> > office of Inventor. 
> 
> All lonely blueprints are destroyed.
> 
> By my records, these are the blueprints for the EP Vending Machine Add-on
> and the Propeller Beanie.
> 
> /dev/joe
> Not really in charge of this.

My records indicate the same..

snowgod
in charge of this :)

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:55:12 -0600 (CST)
From: T Joffrain <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Codex Of Kra 

This is the first translation of many from the Codex.

Many terms had to be translated to something close to what we could
understand in our own language. It seems that there is much knowledge to be
found in the tome.

The following was an introduction to a lengthy chapter, which all seem to be
related to some "other dimension". It seemed to be the best place to start.

CnH

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"Time Dynamics"
By prof dreilich et al. of 1BI

"From experimentation, the nature of the effects observed by our colleague
steamiswatervapor is explained. Determination of its complex nature is shown
to require more experimentation and we will make recommendations for further
study and applications.

A brief introduction to the steamiswatervapor effect, also known as the
Condensation Problem, is first required. Our colleagues at the 3rd Sphere
Institute observed that there existed another universe existing in parallel
to our own. After more experiments, they were able to determine that this
new universe was in fact our spare one, much in the same way that vehicles
have a spare wheel.

This universe, named U2, had amazing properties. For example, it was
determined that in it, time was not malleable, as in ours (U1). The concept
that time may actually be a dimension that cannot be altered and has a
fixed, non reversible flow rate is indeed stunning. What would it feel like
not knowing what a report would turn out to be before you started it? While
such questions are interesting, they are best left to our philosophers.

U2 also has other striking properties, but the one of interest here is this
"moving time", or "time dynamics". The scientific community was even more
puzzled when 3SI found that time in U2 was not, in fact, smoothly
distributed but had pockets of higher density and lower density, much as if
time had been a gas (and was still mostly one) but had condensed in places.

It is from this point that the 1st Blue Institute took over. The reader who
wishes to learn more background information should read "Time U" and "U2 Can
Condense".

The 1BI team decided to begin taking measurements of U2. After sending a few
probes (basically just rocks and stones -- available at any vending machines
near you -- into U2 (*), we found out that it was both small and large. This
depended on the events and time flow in U1. However, it was clear U2, just
as U1, was finite.

After observing patches of smooth time, we found that these could
potentially be good places for colonization. There would be side effects,
but they should have a marginal impact on colonists. However, the condensed
time locations were more harsh and would certainly prove lethal to our kind.

For testing purposes, with the support of the Lawkeepers and the LiCnUoC, we
were allowed to send intelligent probes into U2 to gather information. After
contacting 1SI we were able to build robotic insects, on the same scale as
that of a flea, which allowed us to not pollute U2 significantly.

The data is in the appendix. No life was found and the resources of that
universe seem to be enough to support the idea of an expedition. The data
also supported the gas morphology theory about time in U2. It may be that U2
is actually a universe in formation, being created as a child to U1.

At this point we are of the opinion that more research is required. We
recommend building more probes and a cosversalgate to U2. This gate would
allow us to extract a sample of this universe and bring it in ours for
further, more detailed study. A prototype gate is being constructed at 2SI
and it is promising, but has ran into a problem: the cosversalgate, a very
beautiful blue sphere, automatically expands to take the shape of it
container. They are working on giving it a gel core that would allow for
some control.

Some members of our team are of the opinion a transfer between universes
could have catastrophic consequences, but the majority is not, provided
enough precautions are taken. Certainly, we should keep that sample in a
double chamber, magnetically sealed and levitated vacuum chamber.

(*) See "Alternate Universe Pollution", based on the court case 'players vs
whoisarebel' (C4536). The defendant was convicted of throwing away a used
gumball into U2. He did so that as an example of ways to dispose of our own
garbage and wanted to set up a corporation with sole rights. The court ruled
this was immoral and illegal by L167321(a).

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Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 21:01:37 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Inventor

Nomination for the office of Inventor begins now and lasts for
3 days.  E-mail me if you want to run for this office.

Malenkai
speaker

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:54:56 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 1413

> specification that things are only entities if the rules say they are, 
> 	and then applying Protection only to entities -- there's got to 
> 	be a good scam in there somewhere

	Oh, my ear.  I severely wish you'd brought this up 3 days ago.  
I'm going to have to retract my Proposal (not yet; it looks like I'll 
have to cut back on its ambition at least some though.)
	Thanks for pointing it out instead of waiting for the paradoxen 
to cut loose.

> failure to specify the status of the non-entities that will result from 
> 	this proposal

	I'm going to have to change the requirement that entities must be 
explicitly qualified as such.

- --Mohammed

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:11:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Guy Fawkes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 1413

Sorry, I didn't see it 3 days ago.

Guy Fawkes

On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Jason Orendorff wrote:

> > specification that things are only entities if the rules say they are, 
> > 	and then applying Protection only to entities -- there's got to 
> > 	be a good scam in there somewhere
> 
> 	Oh, my ear.  I severely wish you'd brought this up 3 days ago.  
> I'm going to have to retract my Proposal (not yet; it looks like I'll 
> have to cut back on its ambition at least some though.)
> 	Thanks for pointing it out instead of waiting for the paradoxen 
> to cut loose.
> 
> > failure to specify the status of the non-entities that will result from 
> > 	this proposal
> 
> 	I'm going to have to change the requirement that entities must be 
> explicitly qualified as such.
> 
> --Mohammed
> 

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Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:40:56 -0600 (CST)
From: Jason Orendorff <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Proposal 1413

> Sorry, I didn't see it 3 days ago.
	Thanks for pointing it out before it was too late, anyway.  :o)

	Something I'd like to point out about the abolition of R115 
entities is the prop as written does not forbid stuff like...

"I create a book labelled "Relativity", an openable window, toss the 
book carelessly out the window, and then destroy them both."

	...it just means that the book and the window aren't entities. 
They're "stuff".  The reason I think it is desirable to do this (soon!) is
that I want a single officer to be responsible for tracking the ownership
of all entities...  and for that Officer's sake, e should not have to
follow around every little silly unprotected frob people make up. 
	This is a pain, but after it's done, entities should (hopefully) 
be a good bit easier for rule-writers (and judges) to use (and sort out.)

	I'll be submitting a toned-down version of the proposal soon.  
*abashed look*

- --Mohammed

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 00:25:56 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: frinking

I am ordering a beer.

Malenkai

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 00:33:26 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Acka: Magic Potato

mr cwm receives the magic potato this week.  Its goes well with
that prosthetic forehead collection.

Malenkai
speaker

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 00:40:08 -0500
From: Malenkai <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Acka: Codex Of Kra

T Joffrain wrote:
> 
> This is the first translation of many from the Codex.

And a fine translation it is.  In case anyone is interested, I'll
be archiving these on a web page somewhere.

Malenkai

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